SaintsInDome2006 441 Posted October 28, 2024 10 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Can’t be a racist, xenophobic and close that border I’m pretty sure the plan to shut off travel was presented to Trump at least a couple weeks before he finally did it. It got confused with his Arab travel ban, which was totally separate & not at all a priority. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,469 Posted October 28, 2024 1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Actually I wonder. I also wonder about Trump supporters. I'm in Louisiana. Absolutely nothing I could do would affect this race, my state's electoral votes are locked. But under Trump my stock portfolio crashed, like many people's, including Trump's most slavish supporters. At what point does some executive action make a single American make a personal, life altering choice. I don't know. Well, you must be real shittty at picking stocks, because when Trump took office in Jan '17 the Dow was at 19,864. In Dec '20 - the last full month before he left office - it was at 30,606. That's a +54% increase during his Presidency - and with a pandemic mixed in. By contrast, when Biden took over in Jan '21 the Dow was at 29,982. Today it is at 42,387. That's +41% - very good in its own right - but negated by the ridiculous inflation his policies led to (just as Larry Summers warned about). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,024 Posted October 28, 2024 1 minute ago, Patented Phil said: Well, you must be real shittty at picking stocks, because when Trump took office in Jan '17 the Dow was at 19,864. In Dec '20 - the last full month before he left office - it was at 30,606. That's a +54% increase during his Presidency - and with a pandemic mixed in. By contrast, when Biden took over in Jan '21 the Dow was at 29,982. Today it is at 42,387. That's +41% - very good in its own right - but negated by the ridiculous inflation his policies led to (just as Larry Summers warned about). The majority of liberals are poor. The few that are not are in politics stealing money from the poor liberals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 441 Posted October 28, 2024 28 minutes ago, Patented Phil said: Well, you must be real shittty at picking stocks, because when Trump took office in Jan '17 the Dow was at 19,864. In Dec '20 - the last full month before he left office - it was at 30,606. That's a +54% increase during his Presidency - and with a pandemic mixed in. The stock market was crashing in March 2020. The reason it recovered was Deep Staters forced Trump to throw $7 trillion into it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted October 28, 2024 16 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: The stock market was crashing in March 2020. The reason it recovered was Deep Staters forced Trump to throw $7 trillion into it. Do you know that KAMALA is middle class? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,432 Posted October 28, 2024 30 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: The stock market was crashing in March 2020. The reason it recovered was Deep Staters forced Trump to throw $7 trillion into it. Trillion? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted October 28, 2024 Stock market has been crushing it for decades now. Dumbass GWB the only real lame spot. Hopefully this continues no matter who wins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,469 Posted October 28, 2024 52 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: The stock market was crashing in March 2020. The reason it recovered was Deep Staters forced Trump to throw $7 trillion into it. Ya think a once in hundred year pandemic might have had something to do with that? So let me get this straight… You give Trump responsibility for the stock market tumbling when a pandemic caused the entire country to shut down. But you don’t give him credit when the policies he enacted help lead to its robust recovery? You know what that’s called? TDS. Once again - from the time Trump took office to the time he left - the Dow went up 54%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GunZ 8 Posted October 28, 2024 On 10/26/2024 at 5:10 AM, jbycho said: For me? I'll stay put and live my life normally and enjoy the up and coming prosperity. But what about all of you that live in fear? What will you do? Where will you go? Let me guess: white male who washes your balls with Trump soap? If Trump wins, you'll be negatively impacted economically, but you're so drunk off the Trump malt liquor that you don't understand how bad his economic policies are. Or perhaps you do, and the cost is worth it to you for the racism and misogyny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 441 Posted October 28, 2024 23 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Trillion? Yup, trillion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 754 Posted October 28, 2024 3 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Actually I wonder. I also wonder about Trump supporters. I'm in Louisiana. Absolutely nothing I could do would affect this race, my state's electoral votes are locked. But under Trump my stock portfolio crashed, like many people's, including Trump's most slavish supporters. At what point does some executive action make a single American make a personal, life altering choice. I don't know. I prospered under Trump's time in office. My 401k was through the roof. Over 10% every year return. More than the median salary in the US. I actually have help with my investments so I can't claim the credit for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 754 Posted October 28, 2024 16 minutes ago, GunZ said: Let me guess: white male who washes your balls with Trump soap? If Trump wins, you'll be negatively impacted economically, but you're so drunk off the Trump malt liquor that you don't understand how bad his economic policies are. Or perhaps you do, and the cost is worth it to you for the racism and misogyny. Sure. The TDS is strong in you. Trump already has my vote and I look forward to making as much financial gain this time around as I did last time he was president. Trump 2024!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted October 28, 2024 7 minutes ago, jbycho said: I prospered under Trump's time in office. My 401k was through the roof. Over 10% every year return. More than the median salary in the US. I actually have help with my investments so I can't claim the credit for it. If those numbers haven’t continued in past 4 years you should shop around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 754 Posted October 28, 2024 Just now, thegeneral said: If those numbers haven’t continued in past 4 years you should shop around. I don't need any financial advice other than what I already have. But maybe there's someone out there looking for your input. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadrap 228 Posted October 28, 2024 3 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Actually I wonder. I also wonder about Trump supporters. I'm in Louisiana. Absolutely nothing I could do would affect this race, my state's electoral votes are locked. But under Trump my stock portfolio crashed, like many people's, including Trump's most slavish supporters. At what point does some executive action make a single American make a personal, life altering choice. I don't know. WTF. your stocks crashed & you blame Trump? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted October 28, 2024 Just now, jbycho said: I don't need any financial advice other than what I already have. But maybe there's someone out there looking for your input. Maybe take a peak at the last four years or under Obama. Trump was just more of the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,469 Posted October 28, 2024 33 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Sure ok, when does he talk about the crash & the Fed intervention. Trump says he wants to *fire* Yellen, the person who oversaw it. Because she’s a partisan hack. Always has been, always will be. This is the woman who as Treasury Secretary saw fit to testify to Congress that repealing Roe v. Wade would do economic harm to the country. You should be more concerned about “transitory inflation” (a term she coined by the way) that has set people back at least a decade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,458 Posted October 28, 2024 4 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Actually I wonder. I also wonder about Trump supporters. I'm in Louisiana. Absolutely nothing I could do would affect this race, my state's electoral votes are locked. But under Trump my stock portfolio crashed, like many people's, including Trump's most slavish supporters. At what point does some executive action make a single American make a personal, life altering choice. I don't know. You lost money January 2017 to January 2021? LOL That's a YOU problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,469 Posted October 28, 2024 3 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Maybe take a peak at the last four years or under Obama. Trump was just more of the same. This is true. The biggest stock market gains occurred during the Obama and Clinton presidencies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,491 Posted October 28, 2024 On 10/26/2024 at 11:43 AM, Engorgeous George said: They may find that Mexico and Canada both have fairly strict immigration laws. They may find they cannot work or own their own homes. It is wierd how other countries enforce imigration. Those of a mind to leave, and I presume it is very few who would have the gumption to back up their words with deeds, would be those most unlikely to understand the concept of lawful immigration to another country. Some would be surpirsed at the difficulty or time necessary to move their money off shore. Many would be surprised at the difficulty of bringing their pets with them to a new country which would at least quarantined them if not deny them entry. THIS. I know SO many people who claim they will move to Canada, or Europe. Look up immigration laws for other countries; they are incredibly strict. Many REQUIRE you to have a job for a specific amount of time (most are over a year) before you can technically "live" there and get benefits or healthcare, etc. You just can't "go live there." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted October 28, 2024 Just now, Patented Phil said: This is true. The biggest stock market gains occurred during the Obama and Clinton presidencies. Yep. Biden has been great as well. What a time to be alive! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 441 Posted October 28, 2024 6 minutes ago, Horseman said: You lost money January 2017 to January 2021? LOL That's a YOU problem. I gained. I’ve gained under Biden as I’m sure you have. March 2020 the market crashed but I’m sure you recall that day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 441 Posted October 28, 2024 9 minutes ago, Patented Phil said: Because she’s a partisan hack. Always has been, always will be. This is the woman who as Treasury Secretary saw fit to testify to Congress that repealing Roe v. Wade would do economic harm to the country. You should be more concerned about “transitory inflation” (a term she coined by the way) that has set people back at least a decade. I should have said Powell. Yellen, the person who oversaw the intervention, he already refused to renominate. But let me guess - Powell is also a partisan hack, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,458 Posted October 28, 2024 Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said: I gained. I’ve gained under Biden as I’m sure you have. March 2020 the market crashed but I’m sure you recall that day. Can you do math? Biden has a couple months left to try and catch Trump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted October 28, 2024 2 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: THIS. I know SO many people who claim they will move to Canada, or Europe. Look up immigration laws for other countries; they are incredibly strict. Many REQUIRE you to have a job for a specific amount of time (most are over a year) before you can technically "live" there and get benefits or healthcare, etc. You just can't "go live there." Half a mil or so and you are probably still good to go in a few EU countries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 441 Posted October 28, 2024 13 minutes ago, shadrap said: WTF. your stocks crashed & you blame Trump? I like how Maga folks have washed out a whole cratering of the market. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,458 Posted October 28, 2024 1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: I like how Maga folks have washed out a whole cratering of the market. That recovered in record time. That's what it does it goes up and down. It's what happens long term that matters. I like how poor libs have no idea how the market works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted October 28, 2024 3 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: I like how Maga folks have washed out a whole cratering of the market. Simple math boyo. As long as you didn't sell at the bottom you're fine. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 754 Posted October 28, 2024 Just now, Horseman said: That recovered in record time. That's what it does it goes up and down. It's what happens long term that matters. I like how poor libs have no idea how the market works. It's humorous they make bad decisions with their money and blame someone else for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted October 28, 2024 Markets had a nice run right after Donald lost in Nov 2020. The Biden Boost Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,469 Posted October 28, 2024 5 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: I should have said Powell. Yellen, the person who oversaw the intervention, he already refused to renominate. But let me guess - Powell is also a partisan hack, right? Honestly, I don’t know where you are going with this. Is your point that Trump is temperamental and impetuous? Or is it that Trump screwed up your stock portfolio? I agree with the first point, but the second is flat out wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 754 Posted October 28, 2024 2 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Markets had a nice run right after Donald lost in Nov 2020. The Biden Boost You aren't convincing anyone of anything who knows how to deal with money. So what's your point? Is this your way of crying Trump? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,458 Posted October 28, 2024 SID sold all the way down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted October 28, 2024 Just now, jbycho said: You aren't convincing anyone who knows how to deal with money. So what's your point? Is this your way of crying Trump? I was offering that you check your accounts during Obama and Biden’s runs. Trump was just sandwiched in the middle there of these very nice years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 441 Posted October 28, 2024 3 minutes ago, Patented Phil said: Honestly, I don’t know where you are going with this. Is your point that Trump is temperamental and impetuous? Or is it that Trump screwed up your stock portfolio? I agree with the first point, but the second is flat out wrong. It’s the 1st point, but also he wants to fire Powell & have direct control over Fed policy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,458 Posted October 28, 2024 7 minutes ago, thegeneral said: I was offering that you check your accounts during Obama and Biden’s runs. Trump was just sandwiched in the middle there of these very nice years. You have to go back to the housing crisis to get recovery numbers better than Trump. Nice work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 754 Posted October 29, 2024 1 minute ago, Horseman said: You have to go back to the housing crisis to get recovery numbers better than Trump. Nice work. It's crazy how hard they fight against truth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted October 29, 2024 5 minutes ago, Horseman said: You have to go back to the housing crisis to get recovery numbers better than Trump. Nice work. I went back that last couple decades. Left unmitigated disaster W out because I was being nice. Donald is just a tick ahead of horrible disaster Joe Biden. Well behind socialist Obama who ruined our country. All of them behind the man, Bill Clinton. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted October 29, 2024 1 minute ago, jbycho said: It's crazy how hard they fight against truth. Hey dummy…did you look at your numbers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 754 Posted October 29, 2024 Just now, thegeneral said: Hey dummy…did you look at your numbers This is what they respond with. "Hey dummy." Sad.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites