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[RLLD 4,230]

I wish people cared as much about the Jewish people as they did about the Ukrainian people

[listen2me 23 1,873]

Just now, thegeneral said:

As long as Ukraine wants to keep fighting I would support them. They were invaded. It is in our best interests to support Western Europe and expand NATO. 

Which countries aren’t you ok with Russia taking?

Can you read?  I said its time well past time to sit at the table and make a deal. 

Theyve taken land.  Just like Obama let them take land.

Yea all those Ukrainian and Russian troops that are sent to front lines to just get massacred....want to be there.  Lol.  Yep.  Do you know how stupid you sound?  

Enough is enough.  But you champion death without any progress.  Good for you azzhole.  

 

The number of deaths in the Russia-Ukraine war is high, with estimates ranging from one million to 600 thousand.  

 

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8 minutes ago, League Champion said:

General, all the money in the World isn't going to help Ukraine beat Russia. You need bodies to fight a War, especially against Russia. Ukraine is running out of soldiers, they need bodies not money. 

You can't keep throwing money at the situation. The only way this ends is by Trump negotiating a deal or sending troops, and that isn't happening. 

I’d leave that choice up to them.

[listen2me 23 1,873]

6 minutes ago, League Champion said:

General, all the money in the World isn't going to help Ukraine beat Russia. You need bodies to fight a War, especially against Russia. Ukraine is running out of soldiers, they need bodies not money. 

You can't keep throwing money at the situation. The only way this ends is by Trump negotiating a deal or sending troops, and that isn't happening. 

Weve thrown how much money at Ukraine?  And theyve went backwards.  While killing hundreds of thousands of men.  How much more money and deaths do we need in order to see a win?  Theyve went backwards.  

But this is a good fight to the general. 

[listen2me 23 1,873]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

I’d leave that choice up to them.

The solders dying and their families or Zeleskey?   Who do you want to ask?  

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4 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Can you read?  I said its time well past time to sit at the table and make a deal. 

Theyve taken land.  Just like Obama let them take land.

Yea all those Ukrainian and Russian troops that are sent to front lines to just get massacred....want to be there.  Lol.  Yep.  Do you know how stupid you sound?  

Enough is enough.  But you champion death without any progress.  Good for you azzhole.  

 

The number of deaths in the Russia-Ukraine war is high, with estimates ranging from one million to 600 thousand.  

 

It seems countries that are invaded want to fight for their country. I’m not cheering death, Putin’s maybe, but if they want to continue so be it.

Do you think we should help support Israel blowing up their enemies?

 

[listen2me 23 1,873]

Just now, thegeneral said:

It seems countries that are invaded want to fight for their country. I’m not cheering death, Putin’s maybe, but if they want to continue so be it.

Do you think we should help support Israel blowing up their enemies?

 

So you must be cool with Israel going as far as they want also and we can keep giving them weapons.   Just absolutely wipe Lebanon off the map.  With our weapons.   If Israel wants to totally destroy all of Lebanon then that should br totally fine with you and you want to back that all the way for years?  Correct?

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10 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

So you must be cool with Israel going as far as they want also and we can keep giving them weapons.   Just absolutely wipe Lebanon off the map.  With our weapons.   If Israel wants to totally destroy all of Lebanon then that should br totally fine with you and you want to back that all the way for years?  Correct?

I am good with them killing every enemy they can. The only issue I have is that how can you do that effectively when they are dispersed into civilians, by design by the scumbag terrorists. The explosive pagers was a stroke of genius for instance. 

The same thinking is why we have been very restrictive of what Ukraine can do inside Russia, it’s for these same reasons IMO, even though it could be a realistic way for them to win back lands through negotiation. 

 

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9 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I’d leave that choice up to them.

You know nothing about war.  Like I said about rusty.  Its all a game to you.  Yea lets ask them if they want to go die in an unwinnable war thats went on so long.  Lets

KYIV, Ukraine — Ukraine urgently needs new soldiers, but some — left uneasy by brutal fighting and intensifying conscription efforts — are desperately trying to avoid being called up.

“When you see people in uniform, you panic. You start thinking someone will mobilize you now against your will,” a lawyer based in Kyiv told NBC News. He did not want his identity known, fearful, like a growing number of men across the country, of being drafted into the army if his name is made public just as Russia launches a wave of attacks to try to decisively seize the battlefield initiative.

[RLLD 4,230]

It sure is easy to support conflict and people dying....when you dont have to be part of it......so courageous.....

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,107]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

It sure is easy to support conflict and people dying....when you dont have to be part of it......so courageous.....

Yep.  You can tell who hasn't served unless by "served" they mean served another helping of mashed potatoes from the comfort of their couch.

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3 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

You know nothing about war.  Like I said about rusty.  Its all a game to you.  Yea lets ask them if they want to go die in an unwinnable war thats went on so long.  Lets

KYIV, Ukraine — Ukraine urgently needs new soldiers, but some — left uneasy by brutal fighting and intensifying conscription efforts — are desperately trying to avoid being called up.

“When you see people in uniform, you panic. You start thinking someone will mobilize you now against your will,” a lawyer based in Kyiv told NBC News. He did not want his identity known, fearful, like a growing number of men across the country, of being drafted into the army if his name is made public just as Russia launches a wave of attacks to try to decisively seize the battlefield initiative.

If they want to stop fighting and go to the negation table then I would be all for that. 

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3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

It sure is easy to support conflict and people dying....when you dont have to be part of it......so courageous.....

If a foreign country came into the US and murdered thousands of my relatives and countrymen I’d be ready to have at it. If that country was much more powerful I would very much appreciate a hand. 

[RLLD 4,230]

Just now, thegeneral said:

If a foreign country came into the US and murdered thousands of my relatives and countrymen I’d be ready to have at it. If that country was much more powerful I would very much appreciate a hand. 

Sure.  I will take you at your word.  Of course, when you start taking rounds, your perspective quickly changes....when you have witnessed people mangled by shrapnel, it might instill in you a tilt toward talking more.

I would be more accepting of those who, as I did, served and have those combat decorations one is bestowed for being in those situations.....

[thegeneral 3,214]

Just now, RLLD said:

Sure.  I will take you at your word.  Of course, when you start taking rounds, your perspective quickly changes....when you have witnessed people mangled by shrapnel, it might instill in you a tilt toward talking more.

I would be more accepting of those who, as I did, served and have those combat decorations one is bestowed for being in those situations.....

What would you do if a portion of the US were bombed and then invaded?

[RLLD 4,230]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

What would you do if a portion of the US were bombed and then invaded?

The same thing I did when they sent me to the middle east to fight.  Stand by my fellow Marines, protect them and let them protect me....survive for the next ten minutes...and then the next hour.....just make it to the next day, do that well enough for long enough and you get to live longer, maybe come home. Meanwhile, people back home can insist that we simply have to be there, and "I" simply have to sacrifice......

So easy to hold those positions, when the rounds are not coming at you......really inspiring, courageous.... 

[thegeneral 3,214]

Just now, RLLD said:

The same thing I did when they sent me to the middle east to fight.  Stand by my fellow Marines, protect them and let them protect me....survive for the next ten minutes...and then the next hour.....just make it to the next day, do that well enough for long enough and you get to live longer, maybe come home. Meanwhile, people back home can insist that we simply have to be there, and "I" simply have to sacrifice......

So easy to hold those positions, when the rounds are not coming at you......really inspiring, courageous.... 

If this were in the US and you were fighting people who invaded us killed Americans in our country would that make a difference? 

[RLLD 4,230]

Just now, thegeneral said:

If this were in the US and you were fighting people who invaded us killed Americans in our country would that make a difference? 

Probably.  Not that such a factor matters of course.   Though....hmmmm....how might we also feel if say......uhmmmm......Syria.....were feeding our attackers so that they could kill us more..... instead of finding a way to end the killing.....

You see, later.....maybe 30, or 50 or hell....75 years from now.....there will still be people who insist we simply have to kill each other.....and likely over the same patches of ground....and it is likely that those who insist sons, daughters, husbands....fathers....all must die......    having ever put themselves in harms way.....yeah, those are truly great people who insist others must die.....

[thegeneral 3,214]

Just now, RLLD said:

Probably.  Not that such a factor matters of course.   Though....hmmmm....how might we also feel if say......uhmmmm......Syria.....were feeding our attackers so that they could kill us more..... instead of finding a way to end the killing.....

You see, later.....maybe 30, or 50 or hell....75 years from now.....there will still be people who insist we simply have to kill each other.....and likely over the same patches of ground....and it is likely that those who insist sons, daughters, husbands....fathers....all must die......    having ever put themselves in harms way.....yeah, those are truly great people who insist others must die.....

So what I am saying is that Ukraine would be New Russia if not for our aide. I understand, but don’t agree, with people who would have said ”not our problem”.

[RLLD 4,230]

Just now, thegeneral said:

So what I am saying is that Ukraine would be New Russia if not for our aide. I understand, but don’t agree, with people who would have said ”not our problem”.

Maybe.....and?  

[thegeneral 3,214]

Just now, RLLD said:

Maybe.....and?  

I believe it is in our best interests to not allow Russia to go unchecked. 

[RLLD 4,230]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I believe it is in our best interests to not allow Russia to go unchecked. 

Of course you do, you dont have to die in service of that position.  So that is a rather easy position to hold.  Tell you what, since you are so founded in this decision, pack your sh!t, and get over there and handle business, and then when you return we can swap stories about how many had to die in our proximity so that people and their righteous indignation were suitably served....

best of luck, oh and remember this, I am up....they see me.... I am down.....   might keep you alive an extra day....

[thegeneral 3,214]

Just now, RLLD said:

Of course you do, you dont have to die in service of that position.  So that is a rather easy position to hold.  Tell you what, since you are so founded in this decision, pack your sh!t, and get over there and handle business, and then when you return we can swap stories about how many had to die in our proximity so that people and their righteous indignation were suitably served....

best of luck, oh and remember this, I am up....they see me.... I am down.....   might keep you alive an extra day....

This is Ukraine’s fight. They were the ones invaded, they were the ones whose relatives were killed and cities blown up. They were going to have their country taken. I’m for giving them support that they want to fight back.

On a larger scale yeah Russia is our enemy, Western Europe are our allies. This was started by Vlad and in my view he won’t be able to slice off any more pieces of land now that this stand was made. 

If Ukraine wants to negotiate a deal then I’m for that as well. 

 

[RLLD 4,230]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

This is Ukraine’s fight. They were the ones invaded, they were the ones whose relatives were killed and cities blown up. They were going to have their country taken. I’m for giving them support that they want to fight back.

On a larger scale yeah Russia is our enemy, Western Europe are our allies. This was started by Vlad and in my view he won’t be able to slice off any more pieces of land now that this stand was made. 

If Ukraine wants to negotiate a deal then I’m for that as well. 

 

Yep, and since you insist that Ukrainians and Russians simply must die in service of your position, you can honor them best by putting yourself in harms way too.

[Strike 5,553]

23 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

So what I am saying is that Ukraine would be New Russia if not for our aide. I understand, but don’t agree, with people who would have said ”not our problem”.

Wasn't Ukraine part of Russia at one time?

[nobody 2,673]

1 hour ago, thegeneral said:

Biden never said he would be one and done. That was my assumption.

Yes he did, dummy

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1 minute ago, RLLD said:

Yep, and since you insist that Ukrainians and Russians simply must die in service of your position, you can honor them best by putting yourself in harms way too.

This is an absurd take. If you don’t believe we should support any other country then that’s fine.

[thegeneral 3,214]

1 minute ago, nobody said:

Yes he did, dummy

I missed this. When did that happen.

[thegeneral 3,214]

3 minutes ago, Strike said:

Wasn't Ukraine part of Russia at one time?

They aren’t now at least for the time being.

[Strike 5,553]

Just now, thegeneral said:

They aren’t now at least for the time being.

So it wouldn't be "new Russia", it would be "reconstituted Russia."

[thegeneral 3,214]

2 minutes ago, Strike said:

So it wouldn't be "new Russia", it would be "reconstituted Russia."

Well ok. I guess that also goes for many other countries in Europe.

[nobody 2,673]

6 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I missed this. When did that happen.

During his 2020 campaign.

[thegeneral 3,214]

2 minutes ago, nobody said:

During his 2020 campaign.

As I said I don’t recall this. Do you have a link to this?

[nobody 2,673]

Just now, thegeneral said:

As I said I don’t recall this. Do you have a link to this?

Jesus Christ, dude.  You can't even Google search?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.huffpost.com/entry/biden-reluctant-to-exit-presidential-race_n_66979fb7e4b053ef7d6bfce7/amp

 

“When I originally ran, you may remember, Ed, I said I was gonna be a transitional candidate, and I thought that I’d be able to move from this, just pass it on to someone else,” Biden said. 

[RLLD 4,230]

16 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

This is an absurd take. If you don’t believe we should support any other country then that’s fine.

Hmmmm, should we....support Israel?

[thegeneral 3,214]

Just now, nobody said:

Jesus Christ, dude.  You can't even Google search?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.huffpost.com/entry/biden-reluctant-to-exit-presidential-race_n_66979fb7e4b053ef7d6bfce7/amp

 

“When I originally ran, you may remember, Ed, I said I was gonna be a transitional candidate, and I thought that I’d be able to move from this, just pass it on to someone else,” Biden said. 

Saying you are a bridge or a transitional candidate isn’t saying you wouldn’t run again.

It makes sense that he wouldn’t because he is so old. The original point I was making was that I was surprised he did.

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2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Hmmmm, should we....support Israel?

I covered my view of this above in replying to Listentome. Short answer from me is absolutely but what is the most effective way to go about it.

[nobody 2,673]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Saying you are a bridge or a transitional candidate isn’t saying you wouldn’t run again.

It makes sense that he wouldn’t because he is so old. The original point I was making was that I was surprised he did.

Look at this buffoon.  Biden himself said what he meant by it, and this clown chooses to believe something different. 

People like him are all over the internet spreading their stupidity.  Why do these people get votes?

[RLLD 4,230]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I covered my view of this above in replying to Listentome. Short answer from me is absolutely but what is the most effective way to go about it.

I have an idea.....stop the fighting......stop people from killing each other......I think we start there.

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7 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I have an idea.....stop the fighting......stop people from killing each other......I think we start there.

There’s the rub!