Fnord 2,051 Posted January 29 11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: When does he start being a Tyrant? Well, we’re waiting …. He's already attempted to do at least 4 things that are flat-out illegal. He's been in office less than 2 weeks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,123 Posted January 29 7 minutes ago, Fnord said: He's already attempted to do at least 4 things that are flat-out illegal. He's been in office less than 2 weeks. Can he keep that pace up. maybe its like the player who has an outstanding opening day in baseball and folks extrqapolate that he will be a .1000 hitter with 162 H.r.'s adn 486 R.b.i.'s. At any rate Trump is currently on pace for 416 flat-out illegal acts if your estimation is correct. An impressive total if he can keep it up. I would take the under if that were a betting line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,915 Posted January 29 31 minutes ago, Fnord said: He's already attempted to do at least 4 things that are flat-out illegal. He's been in office less than 2 weeks. Sure. I remember all those tyrants in the history books adhering to a court ruling. Nazi! Fascist! Damn your sides histrionics are so pathetic. And feminine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,120 Posted January 29 MAGAs have a problem with feminine histrionics now? That’s practically Donald’s brand! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death 300 Posted January 29 1 minute ago, MDC said: MAGAs have a problem with feminine histrionics now? That’s practically Donald’s brand! Rachel Maddow will have a field day with this tonight! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Girlfriend 208 Posted January 29 Just now, MDC said: MAGAs have a problem with feminine histrionics now? That’s practically Donald’s brand! They’re gone from everything is the president’s fault to nothing is the president’s fault in one week. Well, technically it happened the moment he was elected, but I’m feeling generous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death 300 Posted January 29 1 minute ago, The Girlfriend said: They’re gone from everything is the president’s fault to nothing is the president’s fault in one week. Well, technically it happened the moment he was elected, but I’m feeling generous. MAGAturds will just keep blaming Biden. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,799 Posted January 29 Honestly. I'm not 100% fine with him just stopping it so quickly and without debate. I would have preferred him announcing this all was being looked at and then coming out, say 30 days later with a more targeted move. But hey, I'm not the Prez. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,402 Posted January 29 3 minutes ago, supermike80 said: Honestly. I'm not 100% fine with him just stopping it so quickly and without debate. I would have preferred him announcing this all was being looked at and then coming out, say 30 days later with a more targeted move. But hey, I'm not the Prez. No you’re being a reasonable person who isn’t behaving impulsively (in this instance.) You are definitely NOT the Prez. One of the non-ideological, non political reasons I didn’t vote for Trump is because he’s so chaotic. He constantly pulls this crap because he loves to be in the spotlight; I swear that is his #1 motivation always. He’s the most ubiquitous politician we’ve ever had; it’s exhausting. It’s going to be like this for 4 years. We’re only a week in. Most liberals and conservatives I know, despite our differences, have one thing in common: we want our politicians to do their jobs and leave us the fock alone most of the time. We want to live our lives, enjoy our lives, without the constant headlines and chaos. This is even true of political junkies like me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,799 Posted January 29 6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: No you’re being a reasonable person who isn’t behaving impulsively (in this instance.) You are definitely NOT the Prez. One of the non-ideological, non political reasons I didn’t vote for Trump is because he’s so chaotic. He constantly pulls this crap because he loves to be in the spotlight; I swear that is his #1 motivation always. He’s the most ubiquitous politician we’ve ever had; it’s exhausting. It’s going to be like this for 4 years. We’re only a week in. Most liberals and conservatives I know, despite our differences, have one thing in common: we want our politicians to do their jobs and leave us the fock alone most of the time. We want to live our lives, enjoy our lives, without the constant headlines and chaos. This is even true of political junkies like me. Well sir, keep in mind it is the media that you love so much that is creating and fueling the chaos. They feed off your, and others emotions to gather eyeballs and clicks. So you should point an equal number of arrows at them. Trump is impulsive. I can't argue with that. And he is very very decisive. He knew this might get challenged in court. But he was willing to take the shot. And I am OK with that. He is trying to bring attention to the wasteful spending in government. I don't think many disagree there are improvements that can be made there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,915 Posted January 29 9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: No you’re being a reasonable person who isn’t behaving impulsively (in this instance.) You are definitely NOT the Prez. One of the non-ideological, non political reasons I didn’t vote for Trump is because he’s so chaotic. He constantly pulls this crap because he loves to be in the spotlight; I swear that is his #1 motivation always. He’s the most ubiquitous politician we’ve ever had; it’s exhausting. It’s going to be like this for 4 years. We’re only a week in. Most liberals and conservatives I know, despite our differences, have one thing in common: we want our politicians to do their jobs and leave us the fock alone most of the time. We want to live our lives, enjoy our lives, without the constant headlines and chaos. This is even true of political junkies like me. Political junkies like you keep being wrong. HTH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 552 Posted January 29 1 minute ago, supermike80 said: He is trying to bring attention to the wasteful spending in government. Only the woke, transgender and DEI wasteful spending though right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,799 Posted January 29 Just now, TrailGuy said: Only the woke, transgender and DEI wasteful spending though right? I wouldn't say only....However yeah those are big items. Ones he campaigned on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,915 Posted January 29 3 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: Only the woke, transgender and DEI wasteful spending though right? Well, all of that is wasteful. Every dime. What’s the problem? Oh wait, you think men can get pregnant. Never mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 552 Posted January 29 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: Well, all of that is wasteful. Every dime. What’s the problem? Oh wait, you think men can get pregnant. Never mind. The point is that he's not going after wasteful spending, he's going after spending he doesn't like. If he was at all concerned about wasteful spending he wouldn't be flying migrants around in military cargo planes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Girlfriend 208 Posted January 29 5 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: The point is that he's not going after wasteful spending, he's going after spending he doesn't like. If he was at all concerned about wasteful spending he wouldn't be flying migrants around in military cargo planes Truth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,799 Posted January 29 11 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: The point is that he's not going after wasteful spending, he's going after spending he doesn't like. If he was at all concerned about wasteful spending he wouldn't be flying migrants around in military cargo planes Wellll...not totally true. Based on the fact that he GOT ELECTED, I believe he is getting rid of spending many many many Americans don't like as well. And as far as the migrant flights, again, this was supported by the fact that he is now the elected President. Popular vote and electoral vote. Trump is delivering on the campaign promises he made, and that the American people voted for. You disagree with his actions on this, I get it. But sorry to tell you there are millions and millions who agree. Next time, try to do better in the election then you can get what you want. Until then, try to not lose your mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 552 Posted January 29 1 minute ago, supermike80 said: Wellll...not totally true. Based on the fact that he GOT ELECTED, I believe he is getting rid of spending many many many Americans don't like as well. And as far as the migrant flights, again, this was supported by the fact that he is now the elected President. Popular vote and electoral vote. Trump is delivering on the campaign promises he made, and that the American people voted for. You disagree with his actions on this, I get it. But sorry to tell you there are millions and millions who agree. Next time, try to do better in the election then you can get what you want. Until then, try to not lose your mind. Half the country disagrees but you're proving my point. He didn't get elected to cut wasteful spending, only to cut DEI and Woke spending, which is exactly what he's trying to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,799 Posted January 29 Just now, TrailGuy said: Half the country disagrees but you're proving my point. He didn't get elected to cut wasteful spending, only to cut DEI and Woke spending, which is exactly what he's trying to do. Yeah, half the country disagrees. I agree. Yet. He is still the President. So there's that. Not everyone is gonna agree. The winners get to set policy. That's just how it is. I believe you understand this. He got elected for a lot of reasons, some of those are directly because of DEI and tranny stuff. You know this. He won. Your side lost. You WILL have to come to terms with this. Got 12 more years of republicans in the executive chair. That's way too long for you to go this crazy. You'll burn out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 552 Posted January 29 6 minutes ago, supermike80 said: Yeah, half the country disagrees. I agree. Yet. He is still the President. So there's that. Not everyone is gonna agree. The winners get to set policy. That's just how it is. I believe you understand this. He got elected for a lot of reasons, some of those are directly because of DEI and tranny stuff. You know this. He won. Your side lost. You WILL have to come to terms with this. Got 12 more years of republicans in the executive chair. That's way too long for you to go this crazy. You'll burn out. Agree with all this. I just disagree with the statement that he cares about cutting spending. He don't give a f how much the govt spends. He wants to build an iron dome over our country which will cost trillions. So don't tell me he cares about govt spending. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,799 Posted January 29 17 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: Agree with all this. I just disagree with the statement that he cares about cutting spending. He don't give a f how much the govt spends. He wants to build an iron dome over our country which will cost trillions. So don't tell me he cares about govt spending. Well i can tell you this because i believe it. Im not sure what your point is. Are you saying because hes cutting these programs he shouldn't spend anything on anything? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 552 Posted January 29 2 minutes ago, supermike80 said: Well i can tell you this because i believe it. Im not sure what your point is. Are you saying because hes cutting these programs he shouldn't spend anything on anything? No I'm saying if he wanted to cut spending he would look at all spending to cut. He wouldn't just cut woke and the propose trillions in more spending. He's going to increase spending and the debt over the next 4 years. This I can guarantee you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,915 Posted January 29 Every poll I’ve seen says more than half of the population are in favor of border security and deportations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,353 Posted January 29 56 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: The point is that he's not going after wasteful spending, he's going after spending he doesn't like. If he was at all concerned about wasteful spending he wouldn't be flying migrants around in military cargo planes He should just welch on all his promises. That's what you would do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,799 Posted January 29 13 minutes ago, supermike80 said: Well i can tell you this because i believe it. Im not sure what your point is. Are you saying because hes cutting these programs he shouldn't spend anything on anything? Hes looking to cut thousands of federal jobs...across every department. Does that count? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,051 Posted January 29 1 hour ago, supermike80 said: Honestly. I'm not 100% fine with him just stopping it so quickly and without debate. I would have preferred him announcing this all was being looked at and then coming out, say 30 days later with a more targeted move. But hey, I'm not the Prez. 48 minutes ago, supermike80 said: Wellll...not totally true. Based on the fact that he GOT ELECTED, I believe he is getting rid of spending many many many Americans don't like as well. And as far as the migrant flights, again, this was supported by the fact that he is now the elected President. Popular vote and electoral vote. Trump is delivering on the campaign promises he made, and that the American people voted for. You disagree with his actions on this, I get it. But sorry to tell you there are millions and millions who agree. Next time, try to do better in the election then you can get what you want. Until then, try to not lose your mind. 17 minutes ago, supermike80 said: Well i can tell you this because i believe it. Note: the following statement is not being made due to the wager we had. You are knocking it out of the park here. It really is as simple as stating your own beliefs and acknowledging when the people you support do things you don't like. And also respectful acknowledgment when there are differences of opinion. You're good people Mike. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,739 Posted January 29 1 hour ago, Death said: Rachel Maddow will have a field day with this tonight! He looks like Frankenstein F'd Rosie O'Donnell and they had a baby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236 Posted January 30 3 hours ago, TrailGuy said: The point is that he's not going after wasteful spending, he's going after spending he doesn't like. If he was at all concerned about wasteful spending he wouldn't be flying migrants around in military cargo planes thats saving money and lives Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 552 Posted January 30 1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: thats saving money and lives Spending $800k for a cargo plane over $8k for a charter jet is saving money? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236 Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: Spending $800k for a cargo plane over $8k for a charter jet is saving money? you think a charter jet is properly equipped to carry criminals? go sit down and watch ConAir armchair idiot spending whatever it takes to deport all these scumbags is good for the country if you losers on the left would have just been rationale in that idea we wouldn't even have to be doing this 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 552 Posted January 30 4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: you think a charter jet is properly equipped to carry criminals? go sit down and watch ConAir armchair idiot spending whatever it takes to deport all these scumbags is good for the country if you losers on the left would have just been rationale in that idea we wouldn't even have to be doing this We've been deporting criminals for years without using military cargo planes. Are you dense? Con air? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236 Posted January 30 22 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: We've been deporting criminals for years without using military cargo planes. Are you dense? Con air? weve never had 1 million sitting waiting weve also never let the criminals run free on the streets Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 552 Posted January 30 4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: weve never had 1 million sitting waiting weve also never let the criminals run free on the streets These cargo planes have had less than 100 migrants per flight Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236 Posted January 30 1 minute ago, TrailGuy said: These cargo planes have had less than 100 migrants per flight cool, keep them going better than spending 150bill on keeping them here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,915 Posted January 30 32 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: We've been deporting criminals for years without using military cargo planes. Are you dense? Con air? How many at a time? Let me save you the trouble and just tell you to STFU. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 552 Posted January 30 32 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: cool, keep them going better than spending 150bill on keeping them here The two options are $8k charter vs $800k c17. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 552 Posted January 30 33 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: How many at a time? Let me save you the trouble and just tell you to STFU. Thanks. U.S. military aircraft carried out two similar flights, each with about 80 migrants, to Guatemala on Friday. 🪴 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236 Posted January 30 21 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: U.S. military aircraft carried out two similar flights, each with about 80 migrants, to Guatemala on Friday. 🪴 cool, better than spending 150 bil to keep them here, also we have about 500 bill we aren't spending on Ukraine I am good with it I would rather our military be working at home defending THIS COUNTRY at all costs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 552 Posted January 30 1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: cool, better than spending 150 bil to keep them here, also we have about 500 bill we aren't spending on Ukraine I am good with it I would rather our military be working at home defending THIS COUNTRY at all costs Last time I try this. Migrants are leaving. Do you pay $8k for them to walk on a charter jet or $800k to walk into a c17? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Girlfriend 208 Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: Last time I try this. Migrants are leaving. Do you pay $8k for them to walk on a charter jet or $800k to walk into a c17? He already said he doesn’t care. Hate is the determining factor here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
