HateAid CEO says free speech is dangerous

[TrailGuy 554]

6 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Ah, here we go with the lefty talking points…misinformation.  You care to share with us the working definition of misinformation that the fight was against?  

lies

[Fireballer 2,642]

5 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

lies

Ok, so you’re saying the only thing Twitter and Facebook censored were lies?

[jonmx 2,429]

1 hour ago, TrailGuy said:

You idiot.  Let me explain to you.  She's talking about undiagnosed chronic disease that went untreated, not covid.  She's talking about obesity, HIV, high blood pressure, emphysema, etc.  All comorbidities' that contributed to covid deaths that went untreated for years among the poorest and unhealthiest communities.

So yes healthcare is important and cutting healthcare and research into healthcare and disease that this administration is doing will be so detrimental to Americans.

What you dumfuks wanted to do is force insurance companies to pay for and hospitals to turn little girls into boys and little boys into girls which would have burden the health care system of millions of dollars for lifetime care for each and every one they mutilated.  The only healthcare you leftist authoritarian bastards care about is putting money in the pockets of big pharma, instituting authoritarian lockdowns, aborting children, and sterilizing children.  So go fuk yourself with your phoney BS as if you care about true Healthcare. 

[TrailGuy 554]

6 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Ok, so you’re saying the only thing Twitter and Facebook censored were lies?

They probably also censored posts that they thought were lies that might have turned out to be true, I don't know.

But again it wasn't censoring a political belief, it was an attempt to stop false information spreading wild.  We should all support that.

Instead what you have now is X and Facebook where there are no fact checkers and you can't believe anything you read there.

[jonmx 2,429]

2 hours ago, TrailGuy said:

And it was about misinformation.  It wasn't about silencing conservatives.  And now the right owns the platform and engages in the same behavior that they falsely accused the left of.  So stop with the fake outrage, moron.

Read 1984.   Misinformation is a guise for government controlling all the messaging.    It is such a retarded excuse for censorship, as if there government has all the answers and is a fair arbitrator of truth.   I swear you get fuking dumber every day and that should not be possible. 

[The Real timschochet 6,763]

20 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

Great post.  Very well said.

And I agree with everything @Strike wrote. His first sentence, “schools do not have all the constitutional protections”, goes right to my point. There ARE exceptions to free speech, schools being one of them. Germany has decided that, given their history, the swastika is an exception to free speech. I think that’s reasonable. It would not, IMO be reasonable here. But it is there. And I don’t think it’s proper for our Vice President to scold the Germans about free speech. Nor do I think it’s a good thing for our Vice President to meet with a political group in Germany that celebrates the swastika and the ideas behind the swastika. 

[The Real timschochet 6,763]

2 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Read 1984.   Misinformation is a guise for government controlling all the messaging.    It is such a retarded excuse for censorship, as if there government has all the answers and is a fair arbitrator of truth.   I swear you get fuking dumber every day and that should not be possible. 

Obviously you’ve read 1984 a lot because virtually every one of your posts sounds like Orwell could have written it. (Actually you sound most like Comrade Squealer from Animal Farm.) 

[TrailGuy 554]

6 minutes ago, jonmx said:

What you dumfuks wanted to do is force insurance companies to pay for and hospitals to turn little girls into boys and little boys into girls which would have burden the health care system of millions of dollars for lifetime care for each and every one they mutilated.  The only healthcare you leftist authoritarian bastards care about is putting money in the pockets of big pharma, instituting authoritarian lockdowns, aborting children, and sterilizing children.  So go fuk yourself with your phoney BS as if you care about true Healthcare. 

Fuk you with the transgender stuff.  Enough with that.  I honestly wish that we could just make all of it illegal to shut you dum fuks up.  There is much more important stuff at stake.

There are CDC pages related to disease disappearing.  Research for cancer and infectious diseases gone.  Medicare about to be cut.  Litigation against Big Pharma.  Vaccines of the chopping block.

But dumb fuks like you are crying about transgender surgery. go fuk yourself with your phoney BS.

[jonmx 2,429]

1 minute ago, TrailGuy said:

They probably also censored posts that they thought were lies that might have turned out to be true, I don't know.

But again it wasn't censoring a political belief, it was an attempt to stop false information spreading wild.  We should all support that.

Instead what you have now is X and Facebook where there are no fact checkers and you can't believe anything you read there.

 

The government had Hunter's laptop and had already verified it's contents.   The government knew but yet demanded the media to kill the story.  51 former and current federal agents even concocted the fake narrative it was Russian disinformation.  You king Papa Biden even got on national TV and said it was misinformation despite knowing for a fact it was all true.   You can not be this fuking stupid.   It should not be possible. 

[TrailGuy 554]

5 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Read 1984.   Misinformation is a guise for government controlling all the messaging.    It is such a retarded excuse for censorship, as if there government has all the answers and is a fair arbitrator of truth.   I swear you get fuking dumber every day and that should not be possible. 

Do you not see that this is exactly what Trump is doing now?  Make everyone question the truth so he becomes the sole arbitrator of the truth.  Gulf of America!

I swear you get fuking dumber every day and that should not be possible. 

[TrailGuy 554]

1 minute ago, jonmx said:

 

The government had Hunter's laptop and had already verified it's contents.   The government knew but yet demanded the media to kill the story.  51 former and current federal agents even concocted the fake narrative it was Russian disinformation.  You king Papa Biden even got on national TV and said it was misinformation despite knowing for a fact it was all true.   You can not be this fuking stupid.   It should not be possible. 

At least one of the emails reported by the NY Post was false.  There was never any connection made between Burisma, Biden and Ukraine.  There were never any charges filed.  The whole thing turned out to be nothing anyway.

You can not be this fuking stupid.   It should not be possible. 

[jonmx 2,429]

7 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

Fuk you with the transgender stuff.  Enough with that.  I honestly wish that we could just make all of it illegal to shut you dum fuks up.  There is much more important stuff at stake.

There are CDC pages related to disease disappearing.  Research for cancer and infectious diseases gone.  Medicare about to be cut.  Litigation against Big Pharma.  Vaccines of the chopping block.

But dumb fuks like you are crying about transgender surgery. go fuk yourself with your phoney BS.

Thank God.  CDC was lying to children about puberty blockers being 100 percent reversible when they know it stunts the development of genitalia irreversibly.  You are damn well right you don't want to discuss trangender treatment because it is truly an embarrassment to you bastards.  

[jonmx 2,429]

2 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

At least one of the emails reported by the NY Post was false.  There was never any connection made between Burisma, Biden and Ukraine.  There were never any charges filed.  The whole thing turned out to be nothing anyway.

You can not be this fuking stupid.   It should not be possible. 

Everytime leftist retards say there is no evidence of something, they lie.   STFU with your blatant BS.  

[RLLD 4,230]

DOGE needs to go a much better job of showing the American people what they are finding, and also how money is being recovered.

This is the best way to offset the Democrats efforts to avoid culpability by attacking Muck; it also defangs their media propogandists.

[TrailGuy 554]

4 minutes ago, RLLD said:

DOGE needs to go a much better job of showing the American people what they are finding, and also how money is being recovered.

This is the best way to offset the Democrats efforts to avoid culpability by attacking Muck; it also defangs their media propogandists.

That's what we've been saying since this all started.  Have some transparency, oversight, and produce some facts.

[The Real timschochet 6,763]

3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

DOGE needs to go a much better job of showing the American people what they are finding, and also how money is being recovered.

This is the best way to offset the Democrats efforts to avoid culpability by attacking Muck; it also defangs their media propogandists.

They cant do a “better job” because they’re flat out lying about most of the stuff they’re finding. Like the condoms to Gaza, the money to Chelsea Clinton, or money to Bill Kristol (the latest lie.) Musk is simply making stuff up knowing that people like you will believe every word he says. 

[RLLD 4,230]

2 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

That's what we've been saying since this all started.  Have some transparency, oversight, and produce some facts.

Agree.  What they have produced so far is stuff you can more or less google to see.  I want to see more.

[RLLD 4,230]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

They cant do a “better job” because they’re flat out lying about most of the stuff they’re finding. Like the condoms to Gaza, the money to Chelsea Clinton, or money to Bill Kristol (the latest lie.) Musk is simply making stuff up knowing that people like you will believe every word he says. 

This is not the narrative, media and Democrats are decrying their access, not that they are lying.  If you want to introduce the notion of lying, I think you are jumping the gun.  Dave that pretend position for later, when they produce something that can be disproved.

[Strike 5,539]

9 minutes ago, RLLD said:

DOGE needs to go a much better job of showing the American people what they are finding, and also how money is being recovered.

This is the best way to offset the Democrats efforts to avoid culpability by attacking Muck; it also defangs their media propogandists.

Just go to their website:

https://doge.gov/

Click on the link that says savings.

There's not much DOGE can do about the MSM passing "misinformation" regarding their work.  At some point it's up to the populace to try not to be as ignorant as @The Real timschochet but as the old saying goes, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

[Horseman 2,458]

41 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

Fuk you with the transgender stuff.  Enough with that. 

TRIGGERED 

Hits a little too close to home.  

[The Real timschochet 6,763]

6 minutes ago, Strike said:

Just go to their website:

https://doge.gov/

Click on the link that says savings.

There's not much DOGE can do about the MSM passing "misinformation" regarding their work.  At some point it's up to the populace to try not to be as ignorant as @The Real timschochet but as the old saying goes, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

You begin with the assumption that the MSM is lying and that Doge is telling the truth. Yet whenever Musk is challenged, like on the condoms to Gaza story, he admits he made an error: 

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/musk-walks-back-claim-us-intended-to-send-50m-worth-of-condoms-to-gaza/3479148

“Some of the things I say will be incorrect” lololol

But hey I’m the gullible one around here, right? What a putz you are. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,425]

Fascist! 

[TrailGuy 554]

10 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Agree.  What they have produced so far is stuff you can more or less google to see.  I want to see more.

Most of it has either been lies or previously known.

It's probably too late anyway.  If he had any nefarious intent it's already done.

[The Real timschochet 6,763]

9 minutes ago, RLLD said:

This is not the narrative, media and Democrats are decrying their access, not that they are lying.  If you want to introduce the notion of lying, I think you are jumping the gun.  Dave that pretend position for later, when they produce something that can be disproved.

It’s not a narrative. Musk has absolutely lied now several times:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2025/02/10/elon-musk-pushes-false-claim-ex-usaid-chief-earned-23-million-the-biggest-doge-hoaxes-spread-on-x/
 

He’s simply not credible. 

[Horseman 2,458]

40 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

At least one of the emails reported by the NY Post was false.  There was never any connection made between Burisma, Biden and Ukraine.  There were never any charges filed.  The whole thing turned out to be nothing anyway.

You can not be this fuking stupid.   It should not be possible. 

Doesnt matter. It should have been the court of public opinion. The laptop was real. The emails were real. The crack photos were real. Exit polling proves those lies stole the election. 

You don't care, you're blue pillled along with your physical and mental handicaps.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,425]

There were never any charges filed because the guy investigating got canned for a billlion dollars in aid. Trail Guy truly is the useful idiot. That guy had to leave the country. 

[Horseman 2,458]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

You begin with the assumption that the MSM is lying and that Doge is telling the truth. Yet whenever Musk is challenged, like on the condoms to Gaza story, he admits he made an error: 

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/musk-walks-back-claim-us-intended-to-send-50m-worth-of-condoms-to-gaza/3479148

“Some of the things I say will be incorrect” lololol

But hey I’m the gullible one around here, right? What a putz you are. 

Youre more stupid than normal. 

I'm going to go ahead and side with the guy that admits when he makes a mistake.  Not use it as any sort of proof for what you want to be true.  

 

[TrailGuy 554]

11 minutes ago, Strike said:

Just go to their website:

https://doge.gov/

Click on the link that says savings.

There's not much DOGE can do about the MSM passing "misinformation" regarding their work.  At some point it's up to the populace to try not to be as ignorant as @The Real timschochet but as the old saying goes, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

The website is just the x feed.  A couple other fluff tabs but nothing of significance.  It's a terrible website but at least they got rid of the crypto scam ads that were there at launch.

The x feed contains false information too.

[RLLD 4,230]

4 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

Most of it has either been lies or previously known.

It's probably too late anyway.  If he had any nefarious intent it's already done.

So then we CAN read intent to information that is later proven to be untrue, right?

[The Real timschochet 6,763]

Just now, Horseman said:

Youre more stupid than normal. 

I'm going to go ahead and side with the guy that admits when he makes a mistake.  Not use it as any sort of proof for what you want to be true.  

 

Yeah he’s making a lot of mistakes these days. You’re an even bigger putz than @Strike. And that’s hard. 

[jonmx 2,429]

53 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Obviously you’ve read 1984 a lot because virtually every one of your posts sounds like Orwell could have written it. (Actually you sound most like Comrade Squealer from Animal Farm.) 

Oh the irony.  You are the epitome of "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".  You endlessly bootlick for authoritarianism under the guise of being against some fascist fairytale that only exists in the small minds of the leftist cult.  You don't believe in real free speech.  You don't believe in limiting government power.  The idea that people who want to reign in the power of the federal government and protect the Consitutional rights of the people is somehow fascist/authoritarian is as Orwellian as it gets.  

[RLLD 4,230]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

It’s not a narrative. Musk has absolutely lied now several times:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2025/02/10/elon-musk-pushes-false-claim-ex-usaid-chief-earned-23-million-the-biggest-doge-hoaxes-spread-on-x/
 

He’s simply not credible. 

Yeah, but you see, I can do this with pretty much anyone then, starting with Biden.....and working all the way through legacy media....so, are you sure this is where you want to go?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,425]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Yeah he’s making a lot of mistakes these days. You’re an even bigger putz than @Strike. And that’s hard. 

You don’t think they are finding a good amount of waste fraud and abuse? And please, just answer that and spare us the rest. Thanks. 

[Horseman 2,458]

2 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

The website is just the x feed.  A couple other fluff tabs but nothing of significance.  It's a terrible website but at least they got rid of the crypto scam ads that were there at launch.

The x feed contains false information too.

A couple fluff tabs? 

There are links to every single dollar making up the 55 billion total to date.  Holy fok you're retarded.  

But yeah, like @The Real timschochet I'm sure you could find an error or typo so you can sky scream that it's not working if you want to keep your head up your asss. Or in your case, what's left of it.  

[Horseman 2,458]

9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Yeah he’s making a lot of mistakes these days. You’re an even bigger putz than @Strike. And that’s hard. 

You could list them out against each and every dollar posted on the website instead of running around saying "putz" like a downs syndrome patient.  

But you won't. You can't deal in facts.  You're a pathetical liar.  

[The Real timschochet 6,763]

7 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Yeah, but you see, I can do this with pretty much anyone then, starting with Biden.....and working all the way through legacy media....so, are you sure this is where you want to go?

Yes because I challenge your assertions. Yes let’s go there, absolutely. 

[TrailGuy 554]

8 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Yeah, but you see, I can do this with pretty much anyone then, starting with Biden.....and working all the way through legacy media....so, are you sure this is where you want to go?

Biden is not in office anymore.  At some point you have to let it go and deal with the mess that we have.

[Horseman 2,458]

16 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Yes because I challenge your assertions. Yes let’s go there, absolutely. 

Ashley's diary. Hunter's laptop. Not real. Biden and the legacy media has lied several times now.  They're simply not credible.  

[RLLD 4,230]

5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Yes because I challenge your assertions. Yes let’s go there, absolutely. 

I am challenged to accept your recent awareness of misinformation, given your rather stout support for Biden, a degenerate liar....lets start there. 

[RLLD 4,230]

4 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

Biden is not in office anymore.  At some point you have to let it go and deal with the mess that we have.

Maybe.  I am not convinced of that. I think there is merit to the liberal tactic of noting the issues of others....first....