shadrap 261 Posted November 2 12 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Shad it’s the end of the 4th paragraph. I copied right out of it. Sorry, you asked, just trying to answer your question. Cool. So the “three people familiar with the situation “ , is the basis for your 3 page story? actually the basis of your story is your TDS driven life. Good luck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,335 Posted November 2 2 hours ago, shadrap said: So who is the source of this story? Well here’s some corroboration: And what a coincidence! I was going to say it’s cool he was going to a wrestling event…but looks like he didn’t stay to watch any actual wrestling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 693 Posted November 14 FBI Director Kash Patel Waived Polygraph Security Screening for Dan Bongino, Two Other Senior Staff >>FBI Director Kash Patel granted waivers to Deputy Director Dan Bongino and two other newly hired senior FBI staff members, exempting them from passing polygraph exams normally required to gain access to America’s most sensitive classified information, according to a former senior FBI official and several other government officials. Bongino’s role as the FBI’s second-highest-ranking official means he is responsible for day-to-day operations of the agency, including green-lighting surveillance missions, coordinating with intelligence agency partners and managing the bureau’s 56 field offices across the country. The deputy director receives some of the country’s most closely held secrets, including the President’s Daily Brief, which also contains intelligence from the CIA and the National Security Agency. People familiar with the matter say his ascent to that position without passing a standard FBI background check was unprecedented. ProPublica spoke with four people familiar with the polygraph issues, who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of retaliation and because they were not authorized to publicly discuss the details of FBI background checks. Bongino was selected for the role at the FBI although he, like Patel, had no prior experience at the bureau. Bongino had previously served in the Secret Service and worked as a New York City police officer. But he later gained millions of fans and followers in conservative circles for television and podcast appearances, having taken over Rush Limbaugh’s spot on numerous radio stations. Over the years, Bongino used those platforms to push conspiracy theoriesabout the 2020 election and professed his allegiance to President Donald Trump while railing against the agency he now helps lead. He’s had a rocky tenure so far, marked by public fights with senior Cabinet officials and accusations that he leaked information to the press, which Bongino denied. In August, Trump appointed Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey as co-deputy director at the FBI, setting off speculation that the White House had lost faith in Bongino. But he remains in the job. ProPublica could not determine whether Bongino sat for a polygraph exam or what its results were. Though the existence of a polygraph waiver is an indication he may not have passed the test, it is possible Bongino received a preemptive exemption, a former senior FBI official with of the vetting program told ProPublica.<< Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,559 Posted November 14 On 11/1/2025 at 9:57 PM, shadrap said: Cool. So the “three people familiar with the situation “ , is the basis for your 3 page story? actually the basis of your story is your TDS driven life. Good luck Would you prefer that media just parrot what the administration is willing to talk about? Was Nixon being caught for Watergate a bad outcome? The release of the Pentagon papers? This, along with many other examples, is a fairly new line of attack against journalism and other outcomes one may not appreciate. "Activist judges" and "lower courts can't tell POTUS what to do" are a couple more. These are foundational parts of the American experiment, discarded in the rush to absolve Trump of all potential abuses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 2,292 Posted November 14 44 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: FBI Director Kash Patel granted waivers to Deputy Director Dan Bongino and two other newly hired senior FBI staff members It’s looking more likely everyday that Kash is deep state and on your side 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadrap 261 Posted November 14 1 hour ago, Fnord said: Would you prefer that media just parrot what the administration is willing to talk about? Was Nixon being caught for Watergate a bad outcome? The release of the Pentagon papers? This, along with many other examples, is a fairly new line of attack against journalism and other outcomes one may not appreciate. "Activist judges" and "lower courts can't tell POTUS what to do" are a couple more. These are foundational parts of the American experiment, discarded in the rush to absolve Trump of all potential abuses. "three people familiar with the matter" ? You find that credible? So you can just make up what you want to injure a party based on that. Anonymous sources? same thing. Not credible. I suppose you find them credible so long as it conforms with what you want it to say? Have at it. I don't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 693 Posted November 14 Kash Patel’s ‘Effin Wild’ Ride as FBI Director Long article by WSJ, snips below. What a mess. On Halloween morning, FBI Director Kash Patel had a big announcement to make: “The FBI thwarted a potential terrorist attack,” he said in a 7:32 a.m. social-media post that referenced arrests in Michigan. There was one problem: No criminal charges had yet been filed and local police weren’t aware of the details. Two friends of the alleged terrorists in New Jersey and Washington state caught wind of the arrests and moved up plans to leave the country, according to court documents and law-enforcement officials familiar with the investigation. Justice Department leaders complained to the White House about Patel’s premature post, saying it had disrupted the investigation, administration officials said. In his nine months on the job, Patel has drawn flak from his bosses in the Justice Department and from his underlings at the Federal Bureau of Investigation, where he has fired dozens of agents deemed hostile to Donald Trump or to conservative ideals. But the Halloween announcement wasn’t the biggest controversy to envelop the director that week. Patel hit the news for taking an FBI plane to attend a wrestling event where his girlfriend, a country western singer, performed, and then to her home in Nashville. A former FBI agent, Kyle Seraphin, publicized the trip and called the taxpayer funded travel in the middle of a shutdown “pathetic.” After that, Patel visited a Texas hunting resort called the Boondoggle Ranch, according to flight records and people familiar with the trip, which hasn’t been previously reported. Patel’s travel has frustrated both Justice Department officials, who complained to the White House about it, and the White House itself, which had told cabinet officials months ago in writing to limit their travel, particularly if it was overseas or unrelated to Trump’s agenda, according to an administration official. Details about Patel’s trips to visit his girlfriend and an August trip to Scotland have been passed around the White House in recent days, officials said. The FBI director is required by law to take the bureau’s private plane instead of commercial flights in order to have access to secure communications. If the travel is personal, the director is required to reimburse the government for the cost of a commercial flight—typically far less than the actual costs of private-jet use. Patel has defended his travel, dismissing his critics as “clickbait haters.” A spokesman for the bureau said the director has taken only about a dozen personal trips since assuming the role in February, and had taken steps to cut down on travel costs. …Patel’s presence at the bureau has been something of a culture shock for a buttoned-up workforce, used to wearing suits and ties. Instead, Patel has appeared at events in hooded sweatshirts, jeans or hunting vests, and often speaks colloquially, calling agents “cops,” and telling podcaster Joe Rogan that the job of FBI director was “effin wild.” He has also handed out an oversize commemorative coin to colleagues resembling the logo of the Marvel “Punisher” character, who came to embody a general distrust of the U.S. justice system. The coin also has a large number nine on it, in a reference to himself as the FBI’s ninth director. …After Patel left government, he pounced on the man he would later succeed, Chris Wray, for using a government jet for an Adirondacks holiday. “Chris Wray, hey, you don’t need a government-funded G5 jet so you can fly off to the Adirondacks for vacation,” Patel said during a September 2023 appearance on the X22 Report podcast. That has fueled critics of Patel’s recent travel itinerary. The Justice Department’s Gulfstream G550 took nine trips to Las Vegas—where Patel lived before running the FBI—and seven others to Nashville, according to a Wall Street Journal review of flight records. On a late October Friday, he took the FBI private jet to State College, Pa., for a Real American Freestyle Wrestling event where his girlfriend, country music singer Alexis Wilkins, was performing the national anthem. The next day, the same FBI plane traveled to Nashville. That Sunday, the FBI jet landed in San Angelo, Texas, where Patel visited the Boondoggle Ranch, owned by the family of a Republican donor and friend of Patel’s, C.R. “Bubba” Saulsbury Jr. The plane stayed in San Angelo until Wednesday. The government was shut down, and much of the FBI workforce was working but not getting paid. The ranch’s website, which was taken down after the Journal reached out for comment on the trip, describes itself as a “scenic hunting resort nestled in the heart of Texas.” It had said that the ranch, which isn’t open to the public, offers luxury accommodations and the opportunity to see more than a dozen different species of animals including kudu, addax, blue wildebeest, and Nile and red lechwe. Saulsbury has posted photos of himself with Patel, including at Patel’s swearing-in ceremony at the White House in February and visiting FBI headquarters in June. While Patel’s travel has become a source of gossip within the bureau, his firings in particular have riled the broader workforce. << Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,559 Posted November 15 16 hours ago, shadrap said: "three people familiar with the matter" ? You find that credible? So you can just make up what you want to injure a party based on that. Anonymous sources? same thing. Not credible. I suppose you find them credible so long as it conforms with what you want it to say? Have at it. I don't. Well journalistic standards dictate multiple sources corroborating a story, and that those sources be vetted. I suspect you're of the opinion that these outlets just make stuff up, but they do not. Mistakes are made, of course. That's what retractions are for, as well as libel and slander laws. Anonymity of the sources protects them from retaliation. Seems to me that you are more likely to dismiss what you don't want to hear than I am. If you're never going to trust anonymous sources you might as well just believe everything politicians tell you. Maybe you're okay doing that, I'm not. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadrap 261 Posted Saturday at 11:16 PM 7 hours ago, Fnord said: Well journalistic standards dictate multiple sources corroborating a story, and that those sources be vetted. I suspect you're of the opinion that these outlets just make stuff up, but they do not. Mistakes are made, of course. That's what retractions are for, as well as libel and slander laws. Anonymity of the sources protects them from retaliation. Seems to me that you are more likely to dismiss what you don't want to hear than I am. If you're never going to trust anonymous sources you might as well just believe everything politicians tell you. Maybe you're okay doing that, I'm not. not even close. I'm not posting or believing any reported story based on people familiar with the matter or anonymous. Headlines are on the 1st page, retractions come on the 4th page. Cripes, after all the mis-information and outright lies based on these fine sources the last 10 years I won't give any credibility to them. 3 years of MSNBC about having credible unnamed sources that Trump 100 % colluded with Russia is enough for me. Every fricking night for 3 plus years, including CNN. Garbage in, garbage out. Of course they were fine with the sources so long as they claimed what they wanted to be true. You want to put credibility with those type of sources, fine by me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,464 Posted Saturday at 11:34 PM 17 minutes ago, shadrap said: not even close. I'm not posting or believing any reported story based on people familiar with the matter or anonymous. Headlines are on the 1st page, retractions come on the 4th page. Cripes, after all the mis-information and outright lies based on these fine sources the last 10 years I won't give any credibility to them. 3 years of MSNBC about having credible unnamed sources that Trump 100 % colluded with Russia is enough for me. Every fricking night for 3 plus years, including CNN. Garbage in, garbage out. Of course they were fine with the sources so long as they claimed what they wanted to be true. You want to put credibility with those type of sources, fine by me. Amen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,559 Posted Monday at 01:54 PM On 11/15/2025 at 5:16 PM, shadrap said: not even close. I'm not posting or believing any reported story based on people familiar with the matter or anonymous. Headlines are on the 1st page, retractions come on the 4th page. Cripes, after all the mis-information and outright lies based on these fine sources the last 10 years I won't give any credibility to them. 3 years of MSNBC about having credible unnamed sources that Trump 100 % colluded with Russia is enough for me. Every fricking night for 3 plus years, including CNN. Garbage in, garbage out. Of course they were fine with the sources so long as they claimed what they wanted to be true. You want to put credibility with those type of sources, fine by me. The New York Times published a story after speaking with over 60 different DOJ attorneys that went on record describing how the Trump admin has completely flipped the DOJ into a tool of retribution and fear and completely demolished its ability to do much else. Many of these attorneys used their names. Let me know if you wanna read it. I suspect a lack of names is not what your real aversion is to these stories, but that's just my opinion. ETA: Here it is if you want to see a well sourced and vetted story, replete with names, describing the rampant corruption at DOJ from the inside. Thanks to @SaintsInDome2006 for the spoiler tip Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 693 Posted Monday at 03:18 PM Kash Patel’s girlfriend being protected by FBI SWAT agents as security perk ~~~ Agents on a detail with the country singer would presumably be unable to respond or delayed in responding to other incidents, according to sources. >> FBI Director Kash Patel’s country music performer girlfriend currently enjoys the protection of an FBI security detail to shield her from potential threats, prompting concerns that the arrangement may delay law enforcement from responding to other incidents, two people with direct knowledge tell MS NOW. Alexis Wilkins, Patel’s girlfriend, has a security detail made up of elite FBI agents usually assigned to a SWAT team in the FBI field office in Nashville, where Wilkins spends time for her work. She and Patel first met in Nashville and while they travel together at times, they do not share a residence. Patel often travels to Washington for work but keeps a legal residence in Las Vegas. People familiar with FBI security protocols said they were unaware of any instance in which the girlfriends of top FBI officials received government-staffed security details. Former FBI Director Christopher Wray’s wife Helen received a security detail; she lived with Wray in their home in Atlanta. SWAT team agents on a detail with Wilkins would presumably be unable to respond or delayed in responding to crises that might develop in their territory, such as mass shootings or terror attacks, according to the sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive security matters. … Wilkins, 27, has been dating Patel since 2023 and was by his side when he was sworn in as FBI director in February. … “There is no legitimate justification for this. This is a clear abuse of position and misuse of government resources,” said Christopher O’Leary, a former senior FBI agent and MS NOW law enforcement contributor. “She is not his spouse, does not live in the same house or even the same city.” “I would also add that this comes at a time when security details were stripped from people who are under threat from IRGC QF,” Leary continued, referring to Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.<< Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 693 Posted Monday at 03:19 PM On 11/15/2025 at 5:16 PM, shadrap said: not even close. I'm not posting or believing any reported story based on people familiar with the matter or anonymous. Headlines are on the 1st page, retractions come on the 4th page. Cripes, after all the mis-information and outright lies based on these fine sources the last 10 years I won't give any credibility to them. 3 years of MSNBC about having credible unnamed sources that Trump 100 % colluded with Russia is enough for me. Every fricking night for 3 plus years, including CNN. Garbage in, garbage out. Of course they were fine with the sources so long as they claimed what they wanted to be true. You want to put credibility with those type of sources, fine by me. >>Patel issued a lengthy response to the reports of his use of FBI jet to visit Wilkins, but did not deny flying to his girlfriend’s concert, where he was pictured in social media posts. A self-styled whistleblower, Kyle Seraphin, called attention to the FBI jet flights in his Oct. 28 podcast. Flight tracking sites had recorded the government jet used by the director flying to State College on the date of the event. In a 2023 podcast, Patel had previously slammedthen-FBI Director Wray for his use of the FBI jet for personal travel. “I want to ground Chris Wray’s private jet travel that he pays for with taxpayer dollars to hop around the country,” Patel said, referring to him as a “government gangster”. Though Patel criticized Wray for his use of a G5 jet, FBI directors are legally required to use government aircraft for all travel to maintain secure communications and to respond quickly to emergencies. Earlier this month, Patel responded in a social media post to reports detailing his personal use of the FBI jet. “I’ve always said — criticize me all you want. But going after the people doing great work, my personal life, or those around me is a total disgrace. The disgustingly baseless attacks against Alexis — a true patriot and the woman I’m proud to call my partner in life — are beyond pathetic. She is a rock-solid conservative and a country music sensation who has done more for this nation than most will in ten lifetimes. I’m so blessed she’s in my life. Attacking her isn’t just wrong — it’s cowardly and jeopardizes our safety. My love of family will always be my cornerstone, and you will never tear that down or keep me from them.”<< - Fwiw the anonymous WH sources were about the President getting angry at Patel about the news emerging about the flights. The flights themselves are undisputedly happening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadrap 261 Posted Wednesday at 10:14 PM On 11/17/2025 at 6:54 AM, Fnord said: The New York Times published a story after speaking with over 60 different DOJ attorneys that went on record describing how the Trump admin has completely flipped the DOJ into a tool of retribution and fear and completely demolished its ability to do much else. Many of these attorneys used their names. Let me know if you wanna read it. I suspect a lack of names is not what your real aversion is to these stories, but that's just my opinion. ETA: Here it is if you want to see a well sourced and vetted story, replete with names, describing the rampant corruption at DOJ from the inside. Thanks to @SaintsInDome2006 for the spoiler tip Well, I read it. Some put their names out. Sounds to me like a bunch of fired employees lashing out. Quite the scoop you got there. Here's a another good one. For added credibility 51 of these intelligence folks signed it. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/19/hunter-biden-story-russian-disinfo-430276 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 693 Posted Wednesday at 11:16 PM 1 hour ago, shadrap said: Well, I read it. Some put their names out. Sounds to me like a bunch of fired employees lashing out. Quite the scoop you got there. Here's a another good one. For added credibility 51 of these intelligence folks signed it. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/19/hunter-biden-story-russian-disinfo-430276 The core claim of the Hunter Biden story is that his laptop reveals a treasonous plot between the VP, his son, Zlochevsky (a Ukrainian energy magnate), and shadowy Ukrainian politicos including their former President, who together conspired against Congressional law & American security interests to fire a Ukrainian prosecutor, equivalent to their AG, for personal profit. Right now, Trump, Bondi & Patel could indict all of these people, including Burisma itself & sanction Burisma. Yes even Hunter Biden, because, you see, his pardon was faked. (And the people who forged his pardon could be indicted too). Any moment now I’m sure. Put it next to the Seth Rich story, another tale of a lost laptop with secret incriminating data. 5 years, no investigation, no indictments. Or next to the Huma Abedeen story, a tale of a forgotten laptop containing super secret data with incriminating highly classified data. 5 years, no investigation, no indictment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadrap 261 Posted yesterday at 12:12 AM 51 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: The core claim of the Hunter Biden story is that his laptop reveals a treasonous plot between the VP, his son, Zlochevsky (a Ukrainian energy magnate), and shadowy Ukrainian politicos including their former President, who together conspired against Congressional law & American security interests to fire a Ukrainian prosecutor, equivalent to their AG, for personal profit. Right now, Trump, Bondi & Patel could indict all of these people, including Burisma itself & sanction Burisma. Yes even Hunter Biden, because, you see, his pardon was faked. (And the people who forged his pardon could be indicted too). Any moment now I’m sure. Put it next to the Seth Rich story, another tale of a lost laptop with secret incriminating data. 5 years, no investigation, no indictments. Or next to the Huma Abedeen story, a tale of a forgotten laptop containing super secret data with incriminating highly classified data. 5 years, no investigation, no indictment. the core claim is that what is on it is Russian disinformation. Signed by 51 intelligence guys. What is on it is what is on it! Regardless of whether charges are brought or not is not the point. these guys tried to discredit this to a point where it was not even Hunter's laptop. Way to move the goalposts though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 693 Posted yesterday at 12:14 AM 26 minutes ago, shadrap said: the core claim is that what is on it is Russian disinformation. Signed by 51 intelligence guys. What is on it is what is on it! Regardless of whether charges are brought or not is not the point. these guys tried to discredit this to a point where it was not even Hunter's laptop. Way to move the goalposts though. They were talking about the claim that the Bidens & Co. conspired to fire Shokin. So yeah third in a series of 3 lost laptop stories. Absolutely none of it turned out to be true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,559 Posted yesterday at 01:47 PM 15 hours ago, shadrap said: Well, I read it. Some put their names out. Sounds to me like a bunch of fired employees lashing out. Quite the scoop you got there. Here's a another good one. For added credibility 51 of these intelligence folks signed it. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/19/hunter-biden-story-russian-disinfo-430276 What does one have to do with the other? Nothing. What's curious to me, though, is that we have spent the last 5 years hearing about how the Don was railroaded and witch-hunted by the Biden DOJ. A relevant link you might provide would be one in which some of the attorneys and prosecutors that worked those cases came out to talk about how unjustified they were, and how they resigned in protest. Regrettably for MAGA, none of that ever happened. So, what's more likely then.... A) the Biden DOJ was SOOOOO corrupt that every single person in it was deviously plotting against Trump and absolutely nobody had any qualms with doing illegal damage to a sitting POTUS, decisions which could ruin careers and possibly end with jail time. Or b) The Trump DOJ leadership is every bit as corrupt as claimed, and the professional, non-partisan lawyers at the DOJ that pride themselves on doing their jobs properly are telling him to pound sand and resigning in protest, only to be replaced with inept, corrupt lawyers beholden not to the law, but to the Don. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadrap 261 Posted 18 hours ago 10 hours ago, Fnord said: What does one have to do with the other? Nothing. What's curious to me, though, is that we have spent the last 5 years hearing about how the Don was railroaded and witch-hunted by the Biden DOJ. A relevant link you might provide would be one in which some of the attorneys and prosecutors that worked those cases came out to talk about how unjustified they were, and how they resigned in protest. Regrettably for MAGA, none of that ever happened. So, what's more likely then.... A) the Biden DOJ was SOOOOO corrupt that every single person in it was deviously plotting against Trump and absolutely nobody had any qualms with doing illegal damage to a sitting POTUS, decisions which could ruin careers and possibly end with jail time. Or b) The Trump DOJ leadership is every bit as corrupt as claimed, and the professional, non-partisan lawyers at the DOJ that pride themselves on doing their jobs properly are telling him to pound sand and resigning in protest, only to be replaced with inept, corrupt lawyers beholden not to the law, but to the Don. No point is discussing any of this. Whatever bad happens to Trump he deserves it. Whatever Trump does is bad. Trump=Devil. I got it. Good luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,559 Posted 3 hours ago 14 hours ago, shadrap said: No point is discussing any of this. Whatever bad happens to Trump he deserves it. Whatever Trump does is bad. Trump=Devil. I got it. Good luck. I'm not trying to go after you here, as you are not one of the righty nutjobs willing to defend the Don for every stupid thing he does/says. But I do feel like your response above is representative of a lot of folks that believe strongly that the Dems are off their rockers and Trump was going to solve many, or at least some, of the issues that they created during the Biden term. There seems to be an entrenchment among conservatives wherein they simply refuse to acknowledge negative information about Trump, especially if that information makes the Don look corrupt as opposed to just an unfiltered loudmouth. Maybe it was the 24/7 bombardment of negative stories about Biden in right wing media about how corrupt he and his son were. Maybe it because Dems have been screaming the same crap for a decade and they're immune to it, I dunno. But I do know that this refusal to even consider evidence contrary to their opinions is going to cause big problems down the road, especially if we're fortunate enough to hold him to account for any of his crimes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadrap 261 Posted 3 hours ago 42 minutes ago, Fnord said: I'm not trying to go after you here, as you are not one of the righty nutjobs willing to defend the Don for every stupid thing he does/says. But I do feel like your response above is representative of a lot of folks that believe strongly that the Dems are off their rockers and Trump was going to solve many, or at least some, of the issues that they created during the Biden term. There seems to be an entrenchment among conservatives wherein they simply refuse to acknowledge negative information about Trump, especially if that information makes the Don look corrupt as opposed to just an unfiltered loudmouth. Maybe it was the 24/7 bombardment of negative stories about Biden in right wing media about how corrupt he and his son were. Maybe it because Dems have been screaming the same crap for a decade and they're immune to it, I dunno. But I do know that this refusal to even consider evidence contrary to their opinions is going to cause big problems down the road, especially if we're fortunate enough to hold him to account for any of his crimes. Trump is indeed a narcissist & full of himself but he gets stuff done. Illegal immigration down to lowest in like forever. Remember when the Dems said it couldn't be done unless they passed a bill they proposed? Big lie is what it was. Deporting thousands of bad guys let in by Biden along with some good guys I assume. collateral damage which is to be expected. Stopped a few wars and saved some lives in doing so. Drastically reducing illegal drugs coming to the U.S. reduced income taxes for everyone. Trying to get rid of useless government agencies including Dept. of Education. There is a lot lot more that I'm happy with. Trump is a blowhard but he does his job. Good enough for me now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,559 Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, shadrap said: Trump is indeed a narcissist & full of himself but he gets stuff done. Illegal immigration down to lowest in like forever. Remember when the Dems said it couldn't be done unless they passed a bill they proposed? Big lie is what it was. Deporting thousands of bad guys let in by Biden along with some good guys I assume. collateral damage which is to be expected. Stopped a few wars and saved some lives in doing so. Drastically reducing illegal drugs coming to the U.S. reduced income taxes for everyone. Trying to get rid of useless government agencies including Dept. of Education. There is a lot lot more that I'm happy with. Trump is a blowhard but he does his job. Good enough for me now. All those things are fair and though I disagree with a couple of your points I won't quibble. But what about the claims of self-dealing and corruption, which are rampant? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites