jbycho 579 Posted March 6 1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: IMO denigrating the Russian military & Putin’s power is well worth it. Halting Russian expansionism is even more worthwhile. I hate them both. Think of knowing a complete ahole and also knowing another ahole and they get in a fight. And you don't mind if they both lose. That's me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 374 Posted March 6 1 minute ago, jbycho said: I hate them both. Think of knowing a complete ahole and also knowing another ahole and they get in a fight. And you don't mind if they both lose. That's me. Thanks, I’m not criticizing you. But to me American power, security & freedom are increased by defending democracy & capitalism abroad as well as defending borders. We have generations of Americans & our allies who have sacrificed blood & treasure for this & I don’t think we should just surrender it, & especially for nothing in return from Russia. & btw Russia could just end this by retreating to its borders, well except for Kursk of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 579 Posted March 6 4 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Thanks, I’m not criticizing you. But to me American power, security & freedom are increased by defending democracy & capitalism abroad as well as defending borders. We have generations of Americans & our allies who have sacrificed blood & treasure for this & I don’t think we should just surrender it, & especially for nothing in return from Russia. & btw Russia could just end this by retreating to its borders, well except for Kursk of course. Trump didn't "surrender"anything. He gave Zelensky an out of the war. Zelensky refused How much do you think the US should butt in and try to rule the world? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 374 Posted March 6 24 minutes ago, jbycho said: Trump didn't "surrender"anything. He gave Zelensky an out of the war. Zelensky refused How much do you think the US should butt in and try to rule the world? I don't think we've seen the deal yet though. The deal you're talking about is a rare earth (or as Trump calls it 'raw earth') investment agreement. But IMO what Putin wants is a lot more than just a cease fire. He wants US withdrawal from bases, territory, and all sorts of global influence and rights. We have butt in, we've been butting in since 1941 and maybe 1917 and it has been to our great profit, power and freedom. I think we should maintain that because we've earned it. That includes our defeat of the Soviet Union which took decades and really, actual, "focused" investment and effort. And I wonder about the whole conservative-liberal thing. We're talking about a country with an economy the size of Spain or Mexico, led by an ex-KGB thug who goes around smashing things to intimidate other countries. But we now have a president who loves him, praises him, even gets angry when he's criticized, and frankly has aligned the USA with him. I do think maga people are by and large good, hard working, patriotic people, so it's odd to me. This sort of thing was once desired by 1. far left socialist-pacifists and 2. the very far right of a very poor sort to put it politely (I know, I'm from Louisiana). Anyway I need to move on, I appreciate the conversations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 579 Posted March 6 1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: I don't think we've seen the deal yet though. The deal you're talking about is a rare earth (or as Trump calls it 'raw earth') investment agreement. But IMO what Putin wants is a lot more than just a cease fire. He wants US withdrawal from bases, territory, and all sorts of global influence and rights. We have butt in, we've been butting in since 1941 and maybe 1917 and it has been to our great profit, power and freedom. I think we should maintain that because we've earned it. That includes our defeat of the Soviet Union which took decades and really, actual, "focused" investment and effort. And I wonder about the whole conservative-liberal thing. We're talking about a country with an economy the size of Spain or Mexico, led by an ex-KGB thug who goes around smashing things to intimidate other countries. But we now have a president who loves him, praises him, even gets angry when he's criticized, and frankly has aligned the USA with him. I do think maga people are by and large good, hard working, patriotic people, so it's odd to me. This sort of thing was once desired by 1. far left socialist-pacifists and 2. the very far right of a very poor sort to put it politely (I know, I'm from Louisiana). Anyway I need to move on, I appreciate the conversations. Well, that's it. Trump offered to stand in for Zelensky. Be a powerful ally and deal with Putin. What else do you do you want? Zelensky doesn't want it. Cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,353 Posted March 7 23 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Anyway I need to move on, You really do. You've suffered from TDS for almost a decade now. That's no way to live life. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,797 Posted March 7 1 minute ago, Horseman said: You really do. You've suffered from TDS for almost a decade now. That's no way to live life. I honestly can't understand how liberals live with themselves. It must be torturous. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,738 Posted March 7 3 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: I honestly can't understand how liberals live with themselves. It must be torturous. It has to be exhausting. My Aunt in Texas is a total Waste of human Liberal garbage. She sits and watches MSNBC ALL DAY. She's cut off the entire Republican side of the family because we're racist, evil Nazis. She has a butch lesbian daughter and a flaming gay Son. I send her a Trump Christmas card every year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,797 Posted March 7 4 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: It has to be exhausting. My Aunt in Texas is a total Waste of human Liberal garbage. She sits and watches MSNBC ALL DAY. She's cut off the entire Republican side of the family because we're racist, evil Nazis. She has a butch lesbian daughter and a flaming gay Son. I send her a Trump Christmas card every year What a great idea. I have a couple flaming liberal nephews I think I'll add to my Christmas card list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,738 Posted March 7 7 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: What a great idea. I have a couple flaming liberal nephews I think I'll add to my Christmas card list. It's awesome, they absolutely despise me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,797 Posted March 7 1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said: It's awesome, they absolutely despise me Liberals think that if we are despised by them that we are despicable people. My take is, if we aren't despised by them we are definitely doing something wrong in life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 374 Posted March 7 2 hours ago, Horseman said: You really do. You've suffered from TDS for almost a decade now. That's no way to live life. Pfft, poor form. I will say that Trump Derangement Syndrome always did make a lot of sense as a term, just not in the exact way that maga folks like. Sort of like OMB (we all agree he's orange, that he's fairly mannish despite the wig & makeup, so 2 out of 3 ain't bad). Anyway, have a great weekend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 579 Posted March 7 1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Pfft, poor form. I will say that Trump Derangement Syndrome always did make a lot of sense as a term, just not in the exact way that maga folks like. Sort of like OMB (we all agree he's orange, that he's fairly mannish despite the wig & makeup, so 2 out of 3 ain't bad). Anyway, have a great weekend. Definitely this Rusty alias has TDS. They all do. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,353 Posted March 8 2 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Pfft, poor form. I will say that Trump Derangement Syndrome always did make a lot of sense as a term, just not in the exact way that maga folks like. Sort of like OMB (we all agree he's orange, that he's fairly mannish despite the wig & makeup, so 2 out of 3 ain't bad). Anyway, have a great weekend. And if Trump wasn't enough, Covid made you insane. Testing your whole family every 5 minutes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,880 Posted March 8 Germany talking about getting nukes since we turn our back on allies now. Wonderful! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,906 Posted March 8 28 minutes ago, Horseman said: And if Trump wasn't enough, Covid made you insane. Testing your whole family every 5 minutes. No way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,738 Posted March 8 12 minutes ago, thegeneral said: talking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,353 Posted March 8 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: No way. I exaggerated. Daily. Unbelievable. Probably still wearing a mask. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828 Posted March 8 1 hour ago, thegeneral said: Germany talking about getting nukes since we turn our back on allies now. Wonderful! Serious question: are you retarded in any way shape or form? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,353 Posted March 8 18 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Serious question: are you retarded in any way shape or form? Magic 8 ball says - ABSOLUTELY 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,906 Posted March 8 25 minutes ago, Horseman said: I exaggerated. Daily. Unbelievable. Probably still wearing a mask. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,880 Posted March 8 1 hour ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Serious question: are you retarded in any way shape or form? You are Peefoam levels of moronic. That’s like sub Forrest Gump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,880 Posted March 8 1 hour ago, Horseman said: Magic 8 ball says - ABSOLUTELY Dickless wonder chimes in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,797 Posted March 8 6 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Serious question: are you retarded in any way shape or form? 6 hours ago, Horseman said: Magic 8 ball says - ABSOLUTELY Careful, else he will start telling you guys all about his pee fetish and lashing out constantly at you. It's out of his control. The guy has both Tourette's and an IQ of 60. So yes. He is mentally retarded by definition. To be diagnosed as having mental retardation, a person must have an I.Q. below 70-75, i.e. significantly below average. Individuals with intellectual disabilities (formerly known as mental retardation) can have Tourette Syndrome (TS), and it is important to diagnose and treat TS appropriately in these individuals. Examples: There are thousands more. 5 hours ago, thegeneral said: You are Peefoam levels of moronic. That’s like sub Forrest Gump. 5 hours ago, thegeneral said: Dickless wonder chimes in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 374 Posted March 8 20 hours ago, Horseman said: Testing your whole family every 5 minutes. Confusing reference, but good luck to you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
