Protesters gather outside ICE in Aurora after immigration activist Jeanette Vizguerra reportedly taken into custody 🌮

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Bye Bye!!! 

An ICE spokesman has said Vizguerra has two misdemeanor convictions. In a 2009 traffic stop, she was found to be driving without a license. It was then discovered that she used a fake Social Security number to get documents for work.

https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/protesters-gather-outside-ice-aurora-immigration-activist-jeanette-vizguerra-custody/

 

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Gather up the protesters.  Let our hombres in El Salvador sort them out.  

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54 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Bye Bye!!! 

An ICE spokesman has said Vizguerra has two misdemeanor convictions. In a 2009 traffic stop, she was found to be driving without a license. It was then discovered that she used a fake Social Security number to get documents for work.

https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/protesters-gather-outside-ice-aurora-immigration-activist-jeanette-vizguerra-custody/

Exactly what we need and what we voted for.  I don't give two sh#ts who you are. If you violated the law as an immigrant then out you go. 

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https://x.com/denversmayor/status/1902042530490773525 (video clip at link)

Mayor Mike Johnston @denversmayor

 

Jeanette Vizguerra is a mom of American citizens, a Target employee, a nonprofit leader and an immigration reform advocate with no violent criminal history. Her detainment is not about safety.

 

This is Putin-style persecution of political dissidents.

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2 minutes ago, squistion said:

https://x.com/denversmayor/status/1902042530490773525 (video clip at link)

Mayor Mike Johnston @denversmayor

 

Jeanette Vizguerra is a mom of American citizens, a Target employee, a nonprofit leader and an immigration reform advocate with no violent criminal history. Her detainment is not about safety.

 

This is Putin-style persecution of political dissidents.

No, it's enforcement of immigration law.  How did she even get a job at Target?  We should raid them for hiring illegals.

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This is wrong. It’s exactly why I DIDN’T vote for Trump. It’s immoral and un-American to deport this woman IMO. 

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2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

This is wrong. It’s exactly why I DIDN’T vote for Trump. It’s immoral and un-American to deport this woman IMO. 

wait, you think SS fraud is just a-OK

no wonder you don't want Trump to clean up things

DEPORT HER

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Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

wait, you think SS fraud is just a-OK

no wonder you don't want Trump to clean up things

DEPORT HER

SS fraud of this kind doesn’t bother me at all because the result of it will be that she pays into the system, but won’t collect anything from it. You get that right? 

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3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

This is wrong. It’s exactly why I DIDN’T vote for Trump. It’s immoral and un-American to deport this woman IMO. 

Why is it wrong? She used a fake SS Card, she's not a citizen..

What's the problem? 

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

SS fraud of this kind doesn’t bother me at all because the result of it will be that she pays into the system, but won’t collect anything from it. You get that right? 

so to be clear as long as I commit fraud its ok with you as long as I dont collect from it in the future

yet people like you want these people to get amnesty which means it would

so lets reward fraud cause thats a good thing

 

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Those of you cheering this on: recognize that this story, no matter how you feel about it, is national news. Then ask yourselves if it’s truly possible that we’re going to deport 10-15 million people. It’s never ever going to happen. 
 

I will repeat what I have written several times now: at the end of Trump’s term there will be more undocumented immigrants in this country than there are now. 

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1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

so to be clear as long as I commit fraud its ok with you as long as I dont collect from it in the future

yet people like you want these people to get amnesty which means it would

so lets reward fraud cause thats a good thing

 

We’re not rewarding fraud. We’re being rewarded by the fraud. 

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Just now, The Real timschochet said:

We’re not rewarding fraud. We’re being rewarded by the fraud. 

no we aren't her paying her 200$ a pay period into social security while getting free schooling and benefits for her kids is not rewarding us

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4 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Why is it wrong? She used a fake SS Card, she's not a citizen..

What's the problem? 

Non violent undocumented people should be allowed to stay in this country. Particularly parents of citizens. 

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Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

no we aren't her paying her 200$ a pay period into social security while getting free schooling and benefits for her kids is not rewarding us

Her kids are citizens. And yes we benefit from their education. And yes her presence here benefits us. 

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5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

SS fraud of this kind doesn’t bother me at all because the result of it will be that she pays into the system, but won’t collect anything from it. You get that right? 

She didn't make up a SS number.  Do you have any idea the problems it causes for the REAL owner of that SS number when an illegal steals it and uses it? 

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I'd deport her just because she's stupid.  She came here illegally.  Then, falsified legal documents (stole a SS card/number), to lie on other legal documents (tax forms for employer), THEN hears that the Presidential nominee wants to deport anyone with a record and KNOWINGLY having a record, continues to be an outspoken activist after said nominee gets elected.  I mean, how stupid can you be?  She should've just shut up and walked away and said to her group, "look, I've committed crimes, I could be deported if I'm noticed.  I have to stay out of things for a few years and hopefully a communist gets in office in 2028 and I can stay".

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Non violent undocumented people should be allowed to stay in this country.

Why? When there are people who did It the right way, followed protocol and are awaiting Citizenship? Is it fair to them? 

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Identity theft is a major problem in this country and much of it comes from illegals just like this.

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2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Her kids are citizens. And yes we benefit from their education. And yes her presence here benefits us. 

They can send all The UNDOCUMENTED Taco Makers back for all I care. 

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Just now, Strike said:

She didn't make up a SS number.  Do you have any idea the problems it causes for the REAL owner of that SS number when an illegal steals it and uses it? 

First off you don’t know that it was stolen. More likely she made it up. Though I don’t know either. Second, the answer is no I don’t. I’m skeptical that in this instance there would be any problems. 
But if there are, fine her. Give her some huge penalty. Do not deport her, ever. It’s wrong. 

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

First off you don’t know that it was stolen. More likely she made it up. Though I don’t know either. Second, the answer is no I don’t. I’m skeptical that in this instance there would be any problems. 
But if there are, fine her. Give her some huge penalty. Do not deport her, ever. It’s wrong. 

No, deport her.  Identity theft is a felony. 

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2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Why? When there are people who did It the right way, followed protocol and are awaiting Citizenship? Is it fair to them? 

It’s neither fair nor unfair to them. What’s unfair to them is when Trump cancels their visas (see the Afghan refugees, and refugees around the world.) They don’t care about this woman, they care about Trump shutting down legal entry. 

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Just now, Strike said:

No, deport her.  Identity theft is a felony. 

Then take her to court and prove identity theft. Due process. If she committed a felony she can be deported. But you need to prove it. 

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6 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I'd deport her just because she's stupid.  She came here illegally.  Then, falsified legal documents (stole a SS card/number), to lie on other legal documents (tax forms for employer), THEN hears that the Presidential nominee wants to deport anyone with a record and KNOWINGLY having a record, continues to be an outspoken activist after said nominee gets elected.  I mean, how stupid can you be?  She should've just shut up and walked away and said to her group, "look, I've committed crimes, I could be deported if I'm noticed.  I have to stay out of things for a few years and hopefully a communist gets in office in 2028 and I can stay".

Not stupid. Incredibly courageous. She fought for the rights of others at tremendous risk to herself. Exactly the sort of person I want here. 

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We sure have come a long way from last summer when no one was above the law. 

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6 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

They can send all The UNDOCUMENTED Taco Makers back for all I care. 

So racism is at the heart of your opinion on this issue. Thanks for making that clear. 

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3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Then take her to court and prove identity theft. Due process. If she committed a felony she can be deported. But you need to prove it. 

She's already been charged 

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17 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

SS fraud of this kind doesn’t bother me at all because the result of it will be that she pays into the system, but won’t collect anything from it. You get that right? 

Because you HIRE these people too. That's the ONLY reason you're not into this. You hire illegals. Probably with fake SSNs/EINs. 

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Then take her to court and prove identity theft. Due process. If she committed a felony she can be deported. But you need to prove it. 

You keep saying due process.  She's HAD due process:

https://www.denver7.com/news/politics/former-denver-ice-director-on-agencys-history-with-jeanette-vizguerra-shes-had-more-than-due-process

So either you believe in due process and she's had hers or you've been blowing smoke and just using due process as an excuse.  If you believe in due process you should support her deportation.  Time to put up or shut up Tim.

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Just now, Maximum Overkill said:

She's already been charged 

With a felony? Fine. Let’s have a court trial. If she’s found guilty she can be deported. 

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3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Not stupid. Incredibly courageous. She fought for the rights of others at tremendous risk to herself. Exactly the sort of person I want here. 

Because she'd make a great housekeeper for your hotel or whatever it is. 

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

So racism is at the heart of your opinion on this issue. Thanks for making that clear. 

Wait, it was Nancy Pelosi who said "who's going to pick the vegetables and fruits". That's about the most racist thing I've ever heard. Is that all they're good for in your mind, picking berries? 

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12 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Her kids are citizens. And yes we benefit from their education. And yes her presence here benefits us. 

they can go with her

I will never agree her presence benefits us, nor does much come from our indoctrination schooling

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Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Then take her to court and prove identity theft. Due process. If she committed a felony she can be deported. But you need to prove it. 

That pesky Constitutional "due process" raises its ugly head again.

Trump and MAGA don't want to be bothered with the formality of actually proving their allegations. 

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Just now, TheNewGirl said:

Because you HIRE these people too. That's the ONLY reason you're not into this. You hire illegals. Probably with fake SSNs/EINs. 

No. I’ve described what I do and that’s not it. I feel the way I do on this issue not for selfish reasons but because it’s part of my political philosophy, and one of my core beliefs. 

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Just now, The Real timschochet said:

With a felony? Fine. Let’s have a court trial. If she’s found guilty she can be deported. 

 Not necessary for deportation. Dems tha rules. 

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2 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Because she'd make a great housekeeper for your hotel or whatever it is. 

I don’t know why you’re trying to personalize this but no. 

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Where’s the father (s)? 

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2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

they can go with her

I will never agree her presence benefits us, nor does much come from our indoctrination schooling

Then you’ll always be wrong.