Kilmar Abrego Garcia & Trump El Salvador deportations thread.

[Strike 5,591]

3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I suggest the governments decisions on how they are handling this is dragging it out.  I think the DOJ is using this guy to ensure voters remember how corrupt Democrats are.

Maybe, as long as they ultimately have the evidence on him.  If it turns out that this trial was just for show as Hack asserts, it helps the Dems and open borders people.  But if they have proof of MS-13 activity and human trafficking it hurts those groups immensely.

[squistion 2,227]

1 hour ago, RLLD said:

I suggest the governments decisions on how they are handling this is dragging it out.  I think the DOJ is using this guy to ensure voters remember how corrupt Democrats are.

How does this show corruption by Democrats? Their issue was about the denial of due process and it has been pointed out a half dozen times in this thread, this is not about Abrego Garcia the person.

[RLLD 4,254]

1 hour ago, squistion said:

How does this show corruption by Democrats? Their issue was about the denial of due process and it has been pointed out a half dozen times in this thread, this is not about Abrego Garcia the person.

Every day, for the last 10 years, media has diligently painted Republicans as the problem as being corrupt....I think we have coverage of at least the Republicans well in hand.....so if I dare to point out the problems on the left, you think its so unfair?  I dont think so....  while our legacy media is deferential to liberals, I wont be, and i will have a voice to call out what they refuse.  If media were as critical of democrats as they are toward republicans, there would be no issue....but that deference to excuse the improper behaviors of democrats just wont fly

[squistion 2,227]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

Every day, for the last 10 years, media has diligently painted Republicans as the problem as being corrupt....I think we have coverage of at least the Republicans well in hand.....so if I dare to point out the problems on the left, you think its so unfair?  I dont think so....  while our legacy media is deferential to liberals, I wont be, and i will have a voice to call out what they refuse.  If media were as critical of democrats as they are toward republicans, there would be no issue....but that deference to excuse the improper behaviors of democrats just wont fly

OK...but you avoided answering my question:

How does the Abrego Garcia case/situation show corruption by Democrats? 

 

[RLLD 4,254]

18 minutes ago, squistion said:

OK...but you avoided answering my question:

How does the Abrego Garcia case/situation show corruption by Democrats? 

 

Oh, by supporting a criminal......

[squistion 2,227]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

Oh, by supporting a criminal......

Which isn't true (except for his being here undocumented none of the other allegations against him have been proven) and we keep saying what type of person he is, is completely irrelevant to the issue of whether he was denied due process in his deportation proceeding. 

[RLLD 4,254]

Just now, squistion said:

Which isn't true (except for his being here undocumented none of the other allegations against him have been proven) and we keep saying what type of person he is, is completely irrelevant to the issue of whether he was denied due process in his deportation proceeding. 

You are free to buy into that nonsense if you so choose.  In fact, buy into it.  I suggest you buy a billboard and put that on it....just make sure its clear that Democrats are saying that......

All I ask is that you espouse that nonsense as often and as loudly as you can, but also make it clear you are a liberal.  If you can do that for me, we are all good brother....

[squistion 2,227]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

You are free to buy into that nonsense if you so choose.  In fact, buy into it.  I suggest you buy a billboard and put that on it....just make sure its clear that Democrats are saying that......

All I ask is that you espouse that nonsense as often and as loudly as you can, but also make it clear you are a liberal.  If you can do that for me, we are all good brother....

Fun Fact: Everybody here knows that I am a liberal, or at least they should. 

[RLLD 4,254]

7 minutes ago, squistion said:

Fun Fact: Everybody here knows that I am a liberal, or at least they should. 

Yeah, but if you are on a street corner, yelling this to sell it to people, please make sure they know you are a liberal.  I need voters to see liberals supporting and defending this criminal, where ever possible.

[squistion 2,227]

Just now, RLLD said:

Yeah, but if you are on a street corner, yelling this to sell it to people, please make sure they know you are a liberal.  I need voters to see liberals supporting and defending this criminal, where ever possible.

 Hardly my style. And if anyone is on a street corner yelling about Trump/ICE denying due process to Garcia, I doubt anyone would expect them to be wearing a MAGA hat and would probably assume they are on the left. 

[RLLD 4,254]

7 minutes ago, squistion said:

 Hardly my style. And if anyone is on a street corner yelling about Trump/ICE denying due process to Garcia, I doubt anyone would expect them to be wearing a MAGA hat and would probably assume they are on the left. 

YES! Frame it JUST like that too.  "denying due process"  that absolutely must be part of any diatribe you use.  I say you put it on a billboard.  

[TimHauck 2,919]

4 hours ago, Strike said:

There is a court order preventing them from just deporting him to another country.  HTH.

That just happened 2 days ago, which came about during the trial after the government threatened to deport him if he was released on bail during the trial.

And it doesn’t say they can’t deport him, it says they need to give him 72 hours notice of what country they plan to deport him to, give him an opportunity to say if he has a credible fear of persecution in that country, and that the government needs to ensure that the third country won’t send him to El Salvador. 

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815.238.0_1.pdf

 

[squistion 2,227]

6 minutes ago, RLLD said:

YES! Frame it JUST like that too.  "denying due process"  that absolutely must be part of any diatribe you use.  I say you put it on a billboard.  

Believe it or don't, most Americans really do care about due process for the undocumented being accorded in judicial proceedings according to polls I've seen.

From Google AI overview:

Yes, a significant majority of Americans support due process for undocumented immigrants. A recent poll found that 63% of adults support requiring due process before deporting individuals, with even higher support among Democrats and Independents. This aligns with the constitutional guarantee that all persons within the U.S. borders, including those who are undocumented, are entitled to due process protections.

[TimHauck 2,919]

On 7/19/2025 at 5:25 PM, Strike said:

This particular mother has been in a bunch of stories since her kid got taken by ICE.  And I get it.  But she's putting herself out there to be in these stories.  I have no faith that she's telling the truth and not trying to make her kid look sympathetic.

 

On 7/19/2025 at 5:31 PM, TimHauck said:

Or maybe, just maybe, she knew her son got sent to a terrorist prison and could have been in danger or may have never been released?   Are you now of the opinion that entering the US illegally should be punishable by being jailed in a terrorist prison?

I’m going to take @Strike’s non-response here as a yes to my last question.

[Meglamaniac 535]

16 minutes ago, squistion said:

Believe it or don't, most Americans really do care about due process for the undocumented being accorded in judicial proceedings according to polls I've seen.

From Google AI overview:

Yes, a significant majority of Americans support due process for undocumented immigrants. A recent poll found that 63% of adults support requiring due process before deporting individuals, with even higher support among Democrats and Independents. This aligns with the constitutional guarantee that all persons within the U.S. borders, including those who are undocumented, are entitled to due process protections.

A poll told him so, so naninaninani

[squistion 2,227]

6 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

A poll told him so so naninaninani

RLLD thinks denying due process to the documented is a winning issue for Republicans, but I just don't see it.

If you have links to other polls that show different results, then please post them. 

[Meglamaniac 535]

1 minute ago, squistion said:

RLLD thinks denying due process to the documented is a winning issue for Republicans, but I just don't see it.

If you have links to other polls that show otherwise, then please post them. 

I laugh at polls, they are useless, HTH

[RLLD 4,254]

7 minutes ago, squistion said:

RLLD thinks denying due process to the documented is a winning issue for Republicans, but I just don't see it.

If you have links to other polls that show different results, then please post them. 

I absolutely think you should shout about due process for illegals at every possible turn, every day......let everyone hear you.  

[Strike 5,591]

Just now, RLLD said:

I absolutely think you should shout about due process for illegals at every possible turn, every day......let everyone hear you.  

Especially due process for illegals with final deportation orders!!!

[RLLD 4,254]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

Especially due process for illegals with final deportation orders!!!

YES! YES!   Those too.  And anyone who has raped, you and your boys should form a safety circle around them....maybe sing a song ...." Weeeeee arrrreee liberals and weeeee arrreee  proooouuddd"

[TimHauck 2,919]

In this court document, the judge reiterates that the government has made “poor attempts to tie Abrego Garcia to MS-13.”

Also agrees with me that Abrego Garcia is a “low risk of non-appearance.”

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.tnmd.104622/gov.uscourts.tnmd.104622.95.0_1.pdf
 

[squistion 2,227]

2 hours ago, RLLD said:

I absolutely think you should shout about due process for illegals at every possible turn, every day......let everyone hear you.  

You seem to think this is a winning issue, yet you can't point to anything that supports your position (like maybe one poll showing a majority of Amercians want due process denied in deportation proceedings). The Founding Fathers understood that if you can deny due process to anyone, then you can deny it to everyone and I think most Amercians can grasp that concept too. 

[Meglamaniac 535]

6 minutes ago, squistion said:

 The Founding Fathers understood that if you can deny due process to anyone, then you can deny it to everyone and I think most Amercians can grasp that concept too. 

What?

Put the crack pipe down, illegals are not afforded due process cause they are here Illegally, its simple And denying them such has no bearing on citizens of the US getting due process

[RLLD 4,254]

9 minutes ago, squistion said:

You seem to think this is a winning issue, yet you can't point to anything that supports your position (like maybe one poll showing a majority of Amercians want due process denied in deportation proceedings). The Founding Fathers understood that if you can deny due process to anyone, then you can deny it to everyone and I think most Amercians can grasp that concept too. 

Well, I have enjoyed being correct when it comes to this, so I am going to run with it.  I think the average person can see past all the nonsense you and yours tout and understand this is all very simple.  And I think the more you try to defend these people, the better the outcome for all those people who embrace simple common sense.....so do it...make it clear you want to protect these people....I welcome it

[squistion 2,227]

3 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

What?

Put the crack pipe down, illegals are not afforded due process cause they are here Illegally, its simple And denying them such has no bearing on citizens of the US getting due process

Fun Fact: Everyone under the jurisdiction of the United States is accorded due process under the Constitution, whether they are a citizen or a non-citized and here legally or illegally,

[TimHauck 2,919]

3 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

What?

Put the crack pipe down, illegals are not afforded due process cause they are here Illegally, its simple And denying them such has no bearing on citizens of the US getting due process

The constitution disagrees with you.   Unless the person admits it, you need some form of due process to accurately determine that they’re actually illegal, otherwise the government could just declare whoever they want is illegal then say they don’t get due process.

(Abrego Garcia had previously had due process.  But entering the country illegally does not mean you should be put in a terrorist prison).

[Meglamaniac 535]

1 minute ago, squistion said:

Fun Fact: Everyone under the jurisdiction of the United States is accorded due process under the Constitution, whether they are a citizen or a non-citized and here legally or illegally,

nope, not illegals

[Strike 5,591]

7 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

What?

Put the crack pipe down, illegals are not afforded due process cause they are here Illegally, its simple And denying them such has no bearing on citizens of the US getting due process

Can you guys just ignore them when they scream due process please.  This idiot had due process.  He had a valid order of deportation when he was deported.  No one violated his due process.  We've been over this 10 times.  It's just a stupid hackboy talking point 

[Meglamaniac 535]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

The constitution disagrees with you.   Unless the person admits it, you need some form of due process to accurately determine that they’re actually illegal, otherwise the government could just declare whoever they want is illegal then say they don’t get due process.

(Abrego Garcia had previously had due process.  But entering the country illegally does not mean you should be put in a terrorist prison).

Nope, not for illegals, they have no right to due process

[Horseman 2,483]

Come here illegally- get sent to a terrorist prison. No due process.  

Sends a strong message.  

I like it.  

[squistion 2,227]

5 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Well, I have enjoyed being correct when it comes to this, so I am going to run with it.  I think the average person can see past all the nonsense you and yours tout and understand this is all very simple.  And I think the more you try to defend these people, the better the outcome for all those people who embrace simple common sense.....so do it...make it clear you want to protect these people....I welcome it

Who embrace simple common sense, like the notion that everyone is entitled to due process under the Constitution? 

 

[TimHauck 2,919]

Just now, Meglamaniac said:

Nope, not for illegals, they have no right to due process

Wrong.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,140]

3 hours ago, squistion said:

Fun Fact: Everybody here knows that I am a liberal, or at least they should. 

Fun REAL Fact:  Everybody here knows you're not a liberal. You're more illiberal than liberal by a longshot.  Further, you're much more closer to Communism than Liberalism.

[TimHauck 2,919]

2 minutes ago, Strike said:

Can you guys just ignore them when they scream due process please.  This idiot had due process.  He had a valid order of deportation when he was deported.  No one violated his due process.  We've been over this 10 times.  It's just a stupid hackboy talking point 

I literally just said Abrego Garcia had due process.   

Do you agree with these idiots saying illegals  don’t have a right to due process?

[Meglamaniac 535]

1 minute ago, squistion said:

entitled to due process under the Constitution? 

 

nope, not there in the constitution, you're making sh!t up

[Horseman 2,483]

4 minutes ago, Strike said:

Can you guys just ignore them when they scream due process please.  This idiot had due process.  He had a valid order of deportation when he was deported.  No one violated his due process.  We've been over this 10 times.  It's just a stupid hackboy talking point 

Agree. People should stop responding to Squid just like we did to metal helmet.  They're both low IQ posters that just say the same false crap over and over ad nauseam. 

[Meglamaniac 535]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Wrong.

nope.

[TimHauck 2,919]

Just now, Horseman said:

Agree. People should stop responding to Squid just like we did to metal helmet.  They're both low IQ posters that just say the same false crap over and over. 

@Horseman still mad I bumped a few of the numerous times he fell for fake news, lol 

[Strike 5,591]

Just now, TimHauck said:

I literally just said Abrego Garcia had due process.   

Do you agree with these idiots saying illegals  don’t have a right to due process?

Don't care.  Let's stop with the due process crap.  Why don't you call out the pigeon focker for continuing to bring it up when even you acknowledge he got it?

[squistion 2,227]

6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

The constitution disagrees with you.   Unless the person admits it, you need some form of due process to accurately determine that they’re actually illegal, otherwise the government could just declare whoever they want is illegal then say they don’t get due process.

(Abrego Garcia had previously had due process.  But entering the country illegally does not mean you should be put in a terrorist prison).

Of course it does. No point in arguing with him because he just keeps repeating like a parrot: "Nope, not for illegals, they have no right to due process"