Kilmar Abrego Garcia & Trump El Salvador deportations thread.

[Meglamaniac 529]

2 hours ago, squistion said:

Fun Fact: Everyone under the jurisdiction of the United States is accorded due process under the Constitution, whether they are a citizen or a non-citized and here legally or illegally,

hmmmm

not supreme court

[TimHauck 2,906]

4 minutes ago, Strike said:

THIS is why I tried to give Hackboy a chance.  But, when challenged on this, he waffles and now it MIGHT be a due process issue or it MIGHT be cruel and unusual punishment.  I'm sure it also MIGHT be TREASON by TRUMP, or INSURRECTION!!!!!  Whatever liberals WANT it to be, and NEVER what it actually is.  Ugh.  

No, I don’t think it is.  I just said I could understand the argument and I think arguing about it is semantics.

[Meglamaniac 529]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Yes you did.

 

 

I stand corrected

[TimHauck 2,906]

2 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

I stand corrected

Well at least you’re better than people like @Horseman, @EternalShinyAndChrome, and@TBayXXXVII that can’t admit they’re wrong.  

[squistion 2,219]

35 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

You said the Supreme Court didn’t disagree with you.  Survey says, they do.

He is being pedantic, he is saying that unless the Constitution specifcally spells out it in black and white, then it is not in the Constitution.

Fun Fact: SCOTUS has found a right to privacy under the Constitution, although it is not mentioned in the main document or any amendment. 

By the same token if SCOTUS has ruled that aliens who have entered the country come under the protective scope of the Due Process Clause, then they are saying that they are accorded protection under the Constitution (albeit indirectly).  

[TimHauck 2,906]

4 minutes ago, squistion said:

He is being pedantic, he is saying that unless the Constitution specifcally spells out it in black and white, then it is not in the Constitution.

Fun Fact: SCOTUS has found a right to privacy under the Constitution, although it is not mentioned in the main document or any amendment. 

By the same token if SCOTUS has ruled that aliens who have entered the country come under the protective scope of the Due Process Clause, then they are saying that they are accoreded protection in the Constitution (albeit indirectly).  

Not sure if @Meglamaniac is one, but I think a major reason people are arguing that illegals “aren’t under the jurisdiction” is because of the birthright citizenship discussion…

[seafoam1 3,072]

10 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Not sure if @Meglamaniac is one, but I think a major reason people are arguing that illegals “aren’t under the jurisdiction” is because of the birthright citizenship discussion…

Trump Wins 6-3 Supreme Court Ruling

The U.S. Supreme Court issued a significant ruling permitting the Trump administration to deport immigrants to third countries without adhering to a previously mandated 15-day notice period, effectively bypassing a due process requirement established by a Massachusetts federal judge. This decision overturned an injunction by U.S. District Judge Brian Murphy. The ruling enables the administration to swiftly deport migrants, including those from countries such as Myanmar, Laos, Vietnam, Cuba, and Mexico, to nations like South Sudan.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,498]

Winning

[Hardcore troubadour 15,498]

Obstructing ICE isn’t working out so well for the libtards. Charges and arrests are happening.  

[TBayXXXVII 2,552]

You gotta love it when someone calls you out for not admitting you're wrong, when umthe last 2 times you were in a discussion with that person, he was wrong and didn't admit it. 

[TimHauck 2,906]

4 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

You gotta love it when someone calls you out for not admitting you're wrong, when umthe last 2 times you were in a discussion with that person, he was wrong and didn't admit it. 

What was I wrong about?

[Strike 5,570]

13 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

What was I wrong about?

The better question is what were you right about?

[TimHauck 2,906]

24 minutes ago, Strike said:

The better question is what were you right about?

Here’s a recent example where I was right, and you were wrong.  

22 hours ago, TimHauck said:

That just happened 2 days ago, which came about during the trial after the government threatened to deport him if he was released on bail during the trial.

And it doesn’t say they can’t deport him, it says they need to give him 72 hours notice of what country they plan to deport him to, give him an opportunity to say if he has a credible fear of persecution in that country, and that the government needs to ensure that the third country won’t send him to El Salvador. 

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815.238.0_1.pdf

 

 

[TimHauck 2,906]

I suppose @Strike may try to claim my use of the word “just” deport him implied I was saying they could deport him with no further hearings, but I never said that.

Of course the additional option that the government has to try to deport him is to get the withholding of removal, removed, so that he can actually be deported to El Salvador

[seafoam1 3,072]

3 hours ago, TimHauck said:

I suppose @Strike may try to claim my use of the word “just” deport him implied I was saying they could deport him with no further hearings, but I never said that.

Of course the additional option that the government has to try to deport him is to get the withholding of removal, removed, so that he can actually be deported to El Salvador

Ole timmy really took a beating in this s thread..

[TimHauck 2,906]

Gay makeup artist with no criminal record that entered the country legally says he was sexually abused in CECOT.  @Strike is OK with this.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/gay-makeup-artist-andry-hern-161135374.html

[seafoam1 3,072]

23 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Gay makeup artist with no criminal record that entered the country legally says he was sexually abused in CECOT.  @Strike is OK with this.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/gay-makeup-artist-andry-hern-161135374.html

He was here illegally. Even your liberal written TDS infected article says that. He was given a chance to self deport. He didn't take the deal. He has gang tattoos and just because he was never caught for a crime, it doesn't mean he has never committed any. 

"Andry Hernández Romero is finally home in Venezuela"

 

This is 100% an opinion yahoo article. Sheer stupidity. This is what you get for having voted for creepy joe biden letting all these bloodsuckers in. 

"more than 250 Venezuelan men expelled from the United States and sent to confinement at CECOT, a dystopian prison described as a modern-day gulag"

Glad he's gone. This is called winning. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,360]

24 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Gay makeup artist with no criminal record that entered the country legally says he was sexually abused in CECOT.  @Strike is OK with this.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/gay-makeup-artist-andry-hern-161135374.html

He should be happy. All the c0ck he could ever want 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,128]

34 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Gay makeup artist with no criminal record that entered the country legally says he was sexually abused in CECOT.  @Strike is OK with this.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/gay-makeup-artist-andry-hern-161135374.html

Wait...you believe this? 

You don't think this guy has any vested interest in making this story up? GTFO.

And you should be happy. He's back home in Venezuela. You and your side f****** hate America and you think it's the worst country in the world. Why would you want him to remain here?

Venezuela is one of your glorious socialist Utopias.

[TimHauck 2,906]

4 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Wait...you believe this? 

You don't think this guy has any vested interest in making this story up? GTFO.

And you should be happy. He's back home in Venezuela. You and your side f****** hate America and you think it's the worst country in the world. Why would you want him to remain here?

Venezuela is one of your glorious socialist Utopias.

You should probably sit this one out since you immediately believed the Michigan stabber was a Muslim with no evidence.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,128]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

You should probably sit this one out since you believed the Michigan stabber was a Muslim with no evidence.

 You've been trying so hard the last several weeks and you've been getting curb stomped at every point. Throwing your hypocrisy back in your face is almost too easy now. 

You ain't never going to get your gotcha here.  You believed a made-up story about a gay guy who is being deported.

 

[TimHauck 2,906]

3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

 You've been trying so hard the last several weeks and you've been getting curb stomped at every. Throwing your hypocrisy back in your face is almost too easy now. 

You ain't never going to get your gotcha here.  You believed a made-up story about a gay guy who is being deported.

 

So you’re not going to admit you fell for fake news.  As I expected.

[Ron_Artest 1,570]

6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

You should probably sit this one out since you immediately believed the Michigan stabber was not a Christian with no evidence.

He also believed the MN maga assassin was a Democrat.  He's very stupid.

[TimHauck 2,906]

5 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

 You've been trying so hard the last several weeks and you've been getting curb stomped at every point. Throwing your hypocrisy back in your face is almost too easy now. 

You ain't never going to get your gotcha here.  You believed a made-up story about a gay guy who is being deported.

 

To clarify, what exactly don’t you believe about this story?

-that he’s gay?

-that he has no criminal record?

-that he’s not in Tren De Aragua?

-that he entered the US at a legal port of entry?

-that he was sexually abused in CECOT?

 

These aren’t exactly wild claims.

[TimHauck 2,906]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

He also believed the MN maga assassin was a Democrat.  He's very stupid.

After waiting a whole 10 minutes to “let it play out,” lol

[TimHauck 2,906]

This gay dude probably would have been a better example for Dems to use than Abrego Garcia (I know there were some stories about him when the folks were first sent to CECOT but then they kinda died off).  

-Being gay gives him a legitimate argument for his asylum claim.

-I’d be surprised if Tren de Aragua accepts gays as members, so his claim of not being in a gang is easy to believe.

-Entered the US at a legal port of entry and has no criminal record 

[seafoam1 3,072]

6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

This gay dude probably would have been a better example for Dems to use than Abrego Garcia (I know there were some stories about him when the folks were first sent to CECOT but then they kinda died off).  

-Being gay gives him a legitimate argument for his asylum claim.

-I’d be surprised if Tren de Aragua accepts gays as members, so his claim of not being in a gang is easy to believe.

-Entered the US at a legal port of entry and has no criminal record 

You are like a runny nosed little bratty kid that when told to scram won't go away and then gets clocked and goes to cry to mom. Why do you keep asking for it? Everyone is simply laughing at you all the time now. 

All of you liberals on this site are completely out of touch with reality.  

[squistion 2,219]

2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

This gay dude probably would have been a better example for Dems to use than Abrego Garcia (I know there were some stories about him when the folks were first sent to CECOT but then they kinda died off).  

-Being gay gives him a legitimate argument for his asylum claim.

-I’d be surprised if Tren de Aragua accepts gays as members, so his claim of not being in a gang is easy to believe.

-Entered the US at a legal port of entry and has no criminal record 

I don't think a gay makeup artist would have made a better poster child (so to speak) than a married man whose wife is pregnant (and there would be people here calling for him to be deported just because he is gay). But Abrego Garcia caught the attention of the public first, so the media had to keep the focus on him rather than adding another story line to the mix. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,498]

I’d rather makeup artist jobs go to gay American citizens. 

[seafoam1 3,072]

2 hours ago, squistion said:

I don't think a gay makeup artist would have made a better poster child (so to speak) than a married man whose wife is pregnant (and there would be people here calling for him to be deported just because he is gay). But Abrego Garcia caught the attention of the public first, so the media had to keep the focus on him rather than adding another story line to the mix. 

All booted. Bye bye illegal bltches. 

[Voltaire 5,317]

I see that Maryland Dad doesn't want to leave the country since he is really enjoying his time in US prison.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,128]

5 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’d rather makeup artist jobs go to gay American citizens. 

Wait...what about Gaza?  Gays are fully accepted and embraced in Gaza so why can't we send them all there since it's not as oppressive as the United States?  Wouldn't we be doing EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT?

#daGheysFurGaza

[TimHauck 2,906]

22 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

I see that Maryland Dad doesn't want to leave the country since he is really enjoying his time in US prison.

His wife will probably get a few million of our taxpayer dollars and then they can go live on a tropical island somewhere 

[TimHauck 2,906]

Hey @RLLD, do you still think Abrego Garcia’s lawyers admitted that he was afraid of a “rival” gang?  For someone preaching about “intellectual curiosity,” you sure have none.

[RLLD 4,252]

7 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Hey @RLLD, do you still think Abrego Garcia’s lawyers admitted that he was afraid of a “rival” gang?  For someone preaching about “intellectual curiosity,” you sure have none.

Here we are again, projecting your way of thinking and behaving on me.   Please dont pretend I am a coward like you.

I stand corrected on this point, I have investigated this topic more thoroughly, and unlike a focking pathetic liberal piece of sh!t like you I can admit when I am wrong.

[TimHauck 2,906]

47 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Here we are again, projecting your way of thinking and behaving on me.   Please dont pretend I am a coward like you.

I stand corrected on this point, I have investigated this topic more thoroughly, and unlike a focking pathetic liberal piece of sh!t like you I can admit when I am wrong.

I do admit when I’m wrong.   Thank you for finally admitting you were wrong here.

[seafoam1 3,072]

4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I do admit when I’m wrong.   Thank you for finally admitting you were wrong here.

You literally have never gotten anything right. 

[RLLD 4,252]

13 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I do admit when I’m wrong.   Thank you for finally admitting you were wrong here.

I always admit when I am wrong its people like you who do not

[squistion 2,219]

22 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I do admit when I’m wrong.   Thank you for finally admitting you were wrong here.

So do I, but they never seem to remember that. 

[BrahmaBulls 775]

2 minutes ago, squistion said:

So do I, but they never seem to remember that. 

Where is your admission you were wrong on kaepernick and smollett?