Another Import Success Story *Minnesota*

[jonnyutah 253]

18 hours ago, thegeneral said:

This isn’t hard.

The people who did this fraud are scumbags.

Somalis (or whoever) who are working, going to school, paying taxes, raising kids, etc are normal people.

They are not normal. Perhaps they arent breaking the laws, but they are definitely all left half of the bell curve with you. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,010]

43 minutes ago, Fnord said:

 

 

 

 

 

@Hardcore troubadour stop with the gaslighting. I am obviously not defending anyone of any political, religious, or ethnic affiliation that is engaging in fraud. I'm pointing out that you can find ass holes and criminals everywhere and that using examples of the worst kind of people is no way to judge everyone in the same "group." But you know that and just felt like being compulsively dooshtastic, like the living embodiments of your favorite emojis 

See above and thanks for not being a fuckstick like Twatadour.

I know where you're coming from and I'm pissed off about it, too. It's bullshit that Americans would accept people from other countries that are looking for a better life and then watch them steal from us. But I work closely with a lot of immigrants and children of immigrants and it does no good to lump in those good, hard working people with the criminal scumbags just because they have some shared heritage. My heritage is Germanic and Irish; am I responsible for Nazis, red hair and public drunkenness??

By all means, direct your anger at the perpetrators, they have earned it. But leave it at that.

I specifically said THOSE not THE. Nice reading.  College. 

[thegeneral 3,000]

29 minutes ago, jonnyutah said:

They are not normal. Perhaps they arent breaking the laws, but they are definitely all left half of the bell curve with you. 

No clue what this means.

[Fnord 2,065]

11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I specifically said THOSE not THE. Nice reading.  College. 

Distinction without a difference and revisionist. If you expect me to believe this, you've got years of your own posting history working against you.

[Fnord 2,065]

10 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

No clue what this means.

He's saying that Somalians aren't normal and they are also on the left side of the bell curve along with you, presumably meaning that both you and they are stupid. I haven't engaged enough with that poster to know whether he is @Cdub100 or @iam90sbaby level racist, or if he's just wants to be a dink today.

[Cdub100 3,851]

39 minutes ago, Fnord said:

He's saying that Somalians aren't normal and they are also on the left side of the bell curve along with you, presumably meaning that both you and they are stupid. I haven't engaged enough with that poster to know whether he is @Cdub100 or @iam90sbaby level racist, or if he's just wants to be a dink today.

Just to be clear. Are you saying Somalians (in general) aren't on the left side of the bell curve?

[Engorgeous George 2,171]

18 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Tampon Tim takes ghey Boys to Indigo Girls concerts. 

 

 

I seem to remember them as skinnier.  I guess it has been years and quite a few DQ Blizzards since I have seen pictures of them.

[jonnyutah 253]

1 hour ago, Fnord said:

He's saying that Somalians aren't normal and they are also on the left side of the bell curve along with you, presumably meaning that both you and they are stupid. I haven't engaged enough with that poster to know whether he is @Cdub100 or @iam90sbaby level racist, or if he's just wants to be a dink today.

Congrats on being a right sider at least. 

[Fnord 2,065]

2 hours ago, Cdub100 said:

Just to be clear. Are you saying Somalians (in general) aren't on the left side of the bell curve?

I am interpreting someone else's post. I personally have said nothing about it whatsoever. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,764]

I prefer those clean cut, well spoken nice South Africans. Those people have been through hell and deserve a new beginning.  

There's enough Somalians. How many berries are there to pick? 

[easilyscan 878]

11 hours ago, Fnord said:

 

 

 

 

 

@Hardcore troubadour stop with the gaslighting. I am obviously not defending anyone of any political, religious, or ethnic affiliation that is engaging in fraud. I'm pointing out that you can find ass holes and criminals everywhere and that using examples of the worst kind of people is no way to judge everyone in the same "group." But you know that and just felt like being compulsively dooshtastic, like the living embodiments of your favorite emojis 

See above and thanks for not being a fuckstick like Twatadour.

I know where you're coming from and I'm pissed off about it, too. It's bullshit that Americans would accept people from other countries that are looking for a better life and then watch them steal from us. But I work closely with a lot of immigrants and children of immigrants and it does no good to lump in those good, hard working people with the criminal scumbags just because they have some shared heritage. My heritage is Germanic and Irish; am I responsible for Nazis, red hair and public drunkenness??

By all means, direct your anger at the perpetrators, they have earned it. But leave it at that.

A lot of unexpected shite came up this week, so I have to make it brief. What I resent most, is the fact that there's no transparency regarding the fiscal impact for one state (in this case Minnesota) absorbing a ridiculously disproportionate number of Somali. I think I did an adequate job of pointing this out in comment # 13. The fact that the vast majority of those who partook in the daycare fraud of 2017-2023, & the feeding our future debacle in 2020, were almost all Somali refugees that we welcomed into the state with open arms and checkbooks, fuels the flames of my distain for those people. 

Even worse, is the fact that they tell naïve Minnesotans, that while the initial costs are high, these people turn out to be a huge positive for the State in the long term.

This is BS to the nth degree.

If that was truly the case, wouldn't other states who receive a disproportionately low number, complain that they aren't getting a fair shake ?

I've never heard of that, have you ?

 

 

 

[Cdub100 3,851]

18 hours ago, Fnord said:

I am interpreting someone else's post. I personally have said nothing about it whatsoever. 

Fair enough.  I would like to know what your thoughts are regarding the general IQ of the somlian people.

[avoiding injuries 1,523]

13 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

I prefer those clean cut, well spoken nice South Africans. Those people have been through hell and deserve a new beginning.  

There's enough Somalians. How many berries are there to pick? 

Yeah, let’s not make the same mistake we made with cotton. 

[jonnyutah 253]

Government and non profit spending meeds to be removed from all economic metric calculations. That would pretty much end all this crap.

Would kill every single "look how good they are for the economy" argument. 

These people are absolute drains on our country. Just worthless leeches.

[Fnord 2,065]

17 hours ago, easilyscan said:

A lot of unexpected shite came up this week, so I have to make it brief. What I resent most, is the fact that there's no transparency regarding the fiscal impact for one state (in this case Minnesota) absorbing a ridiculously disproportionate number of Somali. I think I did an adequate job of pointing this out in comment # 13. The fact that the vast majority of those who partook in the daycare fraud of 2017-2023, & the feeding our future debacle in 2020, were almost all Somali refugees that we welcomed into the state with open arms and checkbooks, fuels the flames of my distain for those people. 

Even worse, is the fact that they tell naïve Minnesotans, that while the initial costs are high, these people turn out to be a huge positive for the State in the long term.

This is BS to the nth degree.

If that was truly the case, wouldn't other states who receive a disproportionately low number, complain that they aren't getting a fair shake ?

I've never heard of that, have you ?

I have never heard reasonable rationale for why so many of them ended up in MN. I would be curious to learn that myself. I do remember growing up here and in those days we directed the same ire at the SE Asian refugee population, most of which was completely unwarranted and poorly disguised racism, IMO ("did you hear the g00ks are eating our dogs?"). 40 years later, nobody says a word about them unless discussing driving habits. I suspect 20 years from now there will be a new group to piss on (Palestinians?) and we won't be talking about Somalians/east Africans anymore.

I will disagree with you on the bolded. Like I said, I work with a lot of folks from east Africa and mostly they're excellent people. Some of their stories are insane, like the Lost Boys of Sudan. I've had employees tell me about how at 10 years old, they didn't know how to ride a bicycle, but they were well versed in how to use a rifle to commit murder. You and I will never understand what it was like to grow up under those circumstances. Like every ethnicity, some are dumb and lazy, and some are smart and hard working. They want to live their lives in peace, work, raise kids, practice their religion, enjoy their weekends.

Anecdotally, I've noticed a propensity for selfishness and less regard for rules and norms, which can be maddening. But when you had to commit crimes to survive from an early age, it's understandably damaging. I just try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt until shown it's not deserved.

I'd guess that they do not commit crimes at a higher rate than any other population, but haven't looked into the numbers.

Appreciate the good convo, have an excellent weekend!

[Hardcore troubadour 15,010]

Awesome. Import people taught to murder at 10. GFY

[Fnord 2,065]

5 hours ago, jonnyutah said:

These people are absolute drains on our country. Just worthless leeches.

Generalize much? I know far more worthless native born whites than I do foreign born blacks.

[Fnord 2,065]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Awesome. Import people taught to murder at 10. GFY

Aww, look who missed the points again! Twatadour gonna twat...

[Hardcore troubadour 15,010]

1 minute ago, Fnord said:

Aww, look who missed the points again! Twatadour gonna twat...

No, thats the only point. You don’t invite that mentality here just so virtue seekers like you can find a reason to like yourself. 

[Fnord 2,065]

29 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

No, thats the only point. You don’t invite that mentality here just so virtue seekers like you can find a reason to like yourself. 

Agreed. We do it because it's the right thing to do. Which is the same reason you don't understand it; everything you disagree with you villainize without consideration. That's a sure sign of weak character and questionable intelligence.

You should start seeking some virtue yourself, ya battered old asshat.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,010]

7 hours ago, Fnord said:

Agreed. We do it because it's the right thing to do. Which is the same reason you don't understand it; everything you disagree with you villainize without consideration. That's a sure sign of weak character and questionable intelligence.

You should start seeking some virtue yourself, ya battered old asshat.

I’ve accomplished difficult tasks on behalf of others. You post here. 

[jonnyutah 253]

7 hours ago, Fnord said:

Generalize much? I know far more worthless native born whites than I do foreign born blacks.

So what you are saying is thag you as a white guy would rather associate with lazy no good whites than foreign born blacks. And yet nobody is actually shocked by your decision. Because one of these groups wont try and scam you at every turn or physically assault you or rape your kids. 

They just like to talk about lifting their trucks or maybe they just smoke meth. 

 

[Fnord 2,065]

3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’ve accomplished difficult tasks on behalf of others. You post here. 

3 hours ago, jonnyutah said:

So what you are saying is thag you as a white guy would rather associate with lazy no good whites than foreign born blacks. And yet nobody is actually shocked by your decision. Because one of these groups wont try and scam you at every turn or physically assault you or rape your kids. 

They just like to talk about lifting their trucks or maybe they just smoke meth. 

I hope you're both wasted cuz otherwise the above posts are focking unhinged.

[jonnyutah 253]

7 hours ago, Fnord said:

I hope you're both wasted cuz otherwise the above posts are focking unhinged.

I am always wasted. The knee pain and my FBI career falling apart ruined me. 

[Engorgeous George 2,171]

20 hours ago, Fnord said:

Generalize much? I know far more worthless native born whites than I do foreign born blacks.

Don't hang out with those folks from Hibbing.

[Fnord 2,065]

1 hour ago, Engorgeous George said:

Don't hang out with those folks from Hibbing.

It's da guys frum Bermidchi ya really gotta keep yur eyes on don'tchaknow.

[easilyscan 878]

On 5/16/2025 at 1:55 PM, Fnord said:

I have never heard reasonable rationale for why so many of them ended up in MN. I would be curious to learn that myself.

It certainly wasn't for the mild winters. Has 2b be something else ?