WhiteWonder 2,790 Posted Friday at 08:02 PM On 7/17/2025 at 10:42 AM, TimHauck said: Stephen Miller thinks Alligator Alcatraz has better conditions than folks living in Section 8 housing lol. And like @jonnyutah, he apparently thinks mass deportations will solve all of our problems, from the housing market, to ER wait times & health insurance costs, classroom sizes, even no more traffic in LA. These people are in la la land. I do think the $1000 for self-deporting is smart if it still gives them an opportunity to come back legally. https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1945651217566503022 I think if you already broke the law to come here once, you shouldn't be allowed to attempt to come back through proper legal channels. If someone shoplifts from and gets banned from entering a store, should they be able to come back as long as they promise to pay for their items? Maybe after a certain time period has elapsed, I could see allowing them to begin the legal process but certainly not right away after deportation. obviously deportation is not going to solve all of our countries problems, , but I do find it comical when liberals act like the economy is going to crumble without the slave labor of illegal immigrants. I had this discussion with my very liberal aunt last weekend. I already knew everything she was going to say because i've had the same conversation with other liberal friends and family. "lower class citizens won't want to do those jobs for such little pay"... completely ignoring that the "little pay" will have to go up due to minimum wage laws. Also ignoring that not every illegal is picking vegetables in a field or washing dishes and scrubbing toilets. I figured her next retort would be rising prices to consumers, which surprisingly she didn't go after. That's a common retort because liberals know conservatives, trump voters, or even just non liberals like myself often vote for what we think will be best for the economy and markets. I was set to ask her if she preferred slave labor over slightly higher dinner prices, because as far as i'm concerned there are certain times when some temporary inflation is justified for the greater good. I also find it comical that no one ever remembers Obamas stance on illegal immigration.... or Bernie Sanders talking about it and the harm it causes the country and the middle class. I know some of that was not anything you were touching on in your post. and no, i'm not reading a post on X. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,980 Posted Saturday at 12:56 AM 4 hours ago, WhiteWonder said: obviously deportation is not going to solve all of our countries problems, , but I do find it comical when liberals act like the economy is going to crumble without the slave labor of illegal immigrants. I had this discussion with my very liberal aunt last weekend. I already knew everything she was going to say because i've had the same conversation with other liberal friends and family. "lower class citizens won't want to do those jobs for such little pay"... completely ignoring that the "little pay" will have to go up due to minimum wage laws. Also ignoring that not every illegal is picking vegetables in a field or washing dishes and scrubbing toilets. I figured her next retort would be rising prices to consumers, which surprisingly she didn't go after. That's a common retort because liberals know conservatives, trump voters, or even just non liberals like myself often vote for what we think will be best for the economy and markets. I was set to ask her if she preferred slave labor over slightly higher dinner prices, because as far as i'm concerned there are certain times when some temporary inflation is justified for the greater good. I don’t think mass deportation will make the economy crumble. But I do think it will be inflationary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,251 Posted Saturday at 01:00 AM 4 hours ago, WhiteWonder said: I know some of that was not anything you were touching on in your post. and no, i'm not reading a post on X. Even if it just the repeating/reposting of a news story from a respected and legitimate news outlet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,178 Posted Saturday at 01:00 AM 4 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I don’t think mass deportation will make the economy crumble. But I do think it will be inflationary. Yeah, well, you don't know what you are talking about. Your IQ is in the toilet at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,790 Posted Saturday at 01:29 AM 27 minutes ago, squistion said: Even if it just the repeating/reposting of a news story from a respected and legitimate news outlet? People who get their information from Twitter/x posts are almost as bad as those getting it from tiktok (what happened to that dingleby dude) just put the pertinent info in a quote in your post with the source rather than link X Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,251 Posted Saturday at 01:32 AM 1 minute ago, WhiteWonder said: People who get their information from Twitter/x posts are almost as bad as those getting it from tiktok (what happened to that dingleby dude) just put the pertinent info in a quote in your post with the source rather than link X A lot of what I quote from Twitter is from NBC, ABC or CBS news and the pertinent info is there with what I post and also a link for those who want the details. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,980 Posted Saturday at 01:55 AM 26 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: (what happened to that dingleby dude) He dropped in to accuse Gavin Newsom of stealing money from fire victims based on a tiktok from a reality TV has-been, then ran away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,066 Posted Saturday at 04:44 AM 2 hours ago, TimHauck said: Gavin Newsom of stealing money from fire victims True Story Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,790 Posted Sunday at 07:42 PM On 8/8/2025 at 4:02 PM, WhiteWonder said: I think if you already broke the law to come here once, you shouldn't be allowed to attempt to come back through proper legal channels. If someone shoplifts from and gets banned from entering a store, should they be able to come back as long as they promise to pay for their items? Maybe after a certain time period has elapsed, I could see allowing them to begin the legal process but certainly not right away after deportation. On 8/8/2025 at 8:56 PM, TimHauck said: I don’t think mass deportation will make the economy crumble. But I do think it will be inflationary. I see you omitted this part of my post when you quoted me. Surprised an intelligent scholar like yourself doesn’t have a solid response 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,178 Posted Sunday at 08:45 PM On 8/8/2025 at 9:55 PM, TimHauck said: Gavin Newsom is stealing money from fire victims. Your are coming around. Good for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,980 Posted Sunday at 10:37 PM 2 hours ago, WhiteWonder said: I see you omitted this part of my post when you quoted me. Surprised an intelligent scholar like yourself doesn’t have a solid response I don’t feel that strongly about it, I mostly just thought it showed some good faith on the part of the admin (if they really mean it of course). And since you said you might be okay with it after a certain period of time, didn’t seem like you were that staunchly against it anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,790 Posted Sunday at 11:10 PM 30 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I don’t feel that strongly about it, I mostly just thought it showed some good faith on the part of the admin (if they really mean it of course). And since you said you might be okay with it after a certain period of time, didn’t seem like you were that staunchly against it anyway. “as long as they can come back legally” made it sound as if you were okay with illegals leaving (and taking money to do so) as long as they could turn around and try to come back through proper legal channels. i would be staunchly against that and also feel it’s unfair to those going about it the right way. would only be okay with it on condition of a certain amount of time passing (5 maybe 10 years) before they could attempt to do it the right way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites