Texas flooding terrible, tragic

[Ron_Artest 1,487]

Imagine trying to excuse dead kids to protect trump.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,393]

1 hour ago, BrahmaBulls said:

So according to a meteorologist, there were 5 staff members working instead of 2.  You guys think she knows what she's talking about?

https://x.com/Ginger_Zee/status/1942319687154426261

Or an atmospheric science dude showing that Wednesday morning an Austin TV weather guy broke down the potential for an historic flood event.

https://x.com/MatthewCappucci/status/1941887516530852258

 

I guess Gutter and Tim are still waiting for these guys to go knock on everyone's door individually.

They don’t care. They just wanted to get their dig in. Too bad about the kids. 

[BrahmaBulls 757]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

They don’t care. They just wanted to get their dig in. Too bad about the kids. 

Yeah the human garbage latest post is as bad as Squis.  Can't just say my bad or shut the F up and leave the thread now he has to try to twist things back to the kids because he got proven wrong again.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,393]

Just now, BrahmaBulls said:

Yeah the human garbage latest post is as bad as Squis.  Can't just say my bad or shut the F up and leave the thread now he has to try to twist things back to the kids because he got proven wrong again.

They are so desperate they can’t wait a few hours before jumping up and down hysterically yelling Trump! And pointing their finger. It’s sad and pathetic.  

[jonnyutah 287]

"govern me harder"

[thegeneral 3,201]

Watching more interviews from various people impacted. I’m not a religious person, I typically don’t pay any attention this, and wouldn’t say I roll my eyes at the thoughts and prayers shtick I hear, but often feel It comes across as insincere or disingenuous. 

Not the case with this. Many of people they have been taking to are deeply religious as that main camp that was flooded was a religious camp. I have been taken aback by their candor and thoughtfulness while describing what they endured. Been impressed by many of them and their ability to process what has occurred and talk to some TV guy over an ear piece while discussing such a horrible incident. Many young people who I am used to sounding, well like a young person. Many impressive people down there who have now dealt with this utter devastation.

Good luck to all those impacted. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,393]

On 7/7/2025 at 3:22 PM, Fnord said:

Five what? What were these five individuals' titles and responsibilities? What did they actually do?

 My god man, if you could just post a link that verifies the claims you're making, you could make big, bad old Fnord STFU. Wouldn't that be satisfying?

Sad.  Completely unhinged. Right again.  

[Ron_Artest 1,487]

120 dead, 160 still missing.

Terrible.

[TimHauck 2,847]

On 7/7/2025 at 3:22 PM, Fnord said:

Five what? What were these five individuals' titles and responsibilities? What did they actually do?

 My god man, if you could just post a link that verifies the claims you're making, you could make big, bad old Fnord STFU. Wouldn't that be satisfying?

Check the NY Post, Fox News, or Tucker Carlson and you will find 99% of what he posts.  Except for the claim about Wess Roley being too short to be a fireman, think he pulled a @JuneJuly and got that from 4chan or something 

[Ron_Artest 1,487]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Check the NY Post, Fox News, or Tucker Carlson and you will find 99% of what he posts.  Except for the claim about Wess Roley being too short to be a fireman, think he pulled a @JuneJuly and got that from 4chan or something 

99% of what he posts he reads in the ny post.  He still gets the paper delivered daily to his house.

The firefighter short thing was just a dig at me.  Not real.  He's obsessed with me.

[Ron_Artest 1,487]

Charlie Kirk blaming the deaths on the Austin fire chief who is black calling him a dei hire.

Maga are pieces of sh1t

[TimHauck 2,847]

7 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Charlie Kirk blaming the deaths on the Austin fire chief who is black calling him a dei hire.

Maga are pieces of sh1t

GC will defend him and call you the racist 

[TimHauck 2,847]

12 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Charlie Kirk blaming the deaths on the Austin fire chief who is black calling him a dei hire.

Maga are pieces of sh1t

lol literally in consecutive tweets Kirk goes from sharing this post about “Democrats using the flood to score cheap political points,” to blaming deaths on a “DEI hire” that lived 100 miles away

https://x.com/RNCResearch/status/1942975803559440549

[seafoam1 3,011]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

lol literally in consecutive tweets Kirk goes from sharing this post about “Democrats using the flood to score cheap political points,” to blaming deaths on a “DEI hire” that lived 100 miles away

https://x.com/RNCResearch/status/1942975803559440549

It's tragic that the liberals need those DEI hires that cost lives. Agreed. 

[squistion 2,191]

 

[seafoam1 3,011]

1 minute ago, squistion said:

 

Holy crap!! Not Jim Sciutto!! 

[Ron_Artest 1,487]

Kristi Noem waited 72 hours before fema started search and rescue operations.

Kids clinging to trees and the trump regime sat around watching.

[Fnord 2,257]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

Kristi Noem waited 72 hours before fema started search and rescue operations.

Kids clinging to trees and the trump regime sat around watching.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/08/climate/texas-flood-fema-trump.html

Quote

Two former FEMA officials expressed surprise that the agency had not dispatched a larger team to Texas to coordinate efforts with state and local emergency management agencies. Mr. Kidd said it would be Wednesday, five days after the flood, when FEMA would announce the locations of disaster recovery centers where flood survivors could apply for federal financial assistance.

In comparison, on the fifth day after Hurricane Helene battered several Southeastern states last fall, FEMA deployed about 160 personnel to help manage the response, with half the workers in the hardest-hit parts of North Carolina, according to the agency’s internal update that day. Mr. Trump repeatedly criticized FEMA’s handling of Helene under the Biden administration.

One factor contributing to delays is bureaucratic red tape at the Homeland Security Department, according to a government employee familiar with the matter. Secretary Noem is requiring that she review and approve all new expenses over $100,000, including the deployment of search-and-rescue teams, according to the employee and an internal memo reviewed by The New York Times.

“Requests for approval of obligations above the $100,000 threshold must be submitted via memo through the Executive Secretary process,” Ms. Noem wrote in the memo. “As with any request for secretarial approval, please allow a minimum of five days for front office review.”

FEMA is now handcuffed in disaster response until the illustrious Ms. Noem is given up to 5 days to consider emergency action. 

[Ron_Artest 1,487]

Trump's Katrina

[RLLD 4,228]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

Kristi Noem waited 72 hours before fema started search and rescue operations.

Kids clinging to trees and the trump regime sat around watching.

And just like that....liberals find an issue with fema.....

[Ron_Artest 1,487]

21 minutes ago, RLLD said:

And just like that....liberals find an issue with fema.....

You don't have an issue with FEMA delaying search and rescue operations while kids drown due to new policy?  Very telling....

[Fnord 2,257]

24 minutes ago, RLLD said:

And just like that....liberals find an issue with fema.....

LOL. It's right there in the name dude... FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY.

If they can't manage emergencies, which--- NEWS FLASH--- regularly happen quickly, and with little/no warning, requiring immediate response--- within 5 focking days, then, yes, it's pretty easy to find issues with that. Sorry you're so partisan at this point that you take issue with such a fundamentally simple concept.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,393]

Didn’t a coast guard guy save 165 people? 

[squistion 2,191]

 

[Ron_Artest 1,487]

The Real Boss.

[RLLD 4,228]

21 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

You don't have an issue with FEMA delaying search and rescue operations while kids drown due to new policy?  Very telling....

Not exactly. I have always....had an issue with FEMA.   You and I find common ground on this topic....ONLY....because it serves your political positions...

Later, when FEMA fails under a Democrat, you will  change your position.

[RLLD 4,228]

17 minutes ago, Fnord said:

LOL. It's right there in the name dude... FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY.

If they can't manage emergencies, which--- NEWS FLASH--- regularly happen quickly, and with little/no warning, requiring immediate response--- within 5 focking days, then, yes, it's pretty easy to find issues with that. Sorry you're so partisan at this point that you take issue with such a fundamentally simple concept.

You misunderstand me.  FEMA is an issue, overall, it always has been.  It's only now being assailed, by liberals, because it is politically useful to do so.  Later.....when FEMA fails again....under Democrat leadership....maybe again in North Carolina.....you can be silent once more.

[seafoam1 3,011]

13 minutes ago, squistion said:

 

Oh boy. He's really putting himself out there ain't he? 

[squistion 2,191]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

You misunderstand me.  FEMA is an issue, overall, it always has been.  It's only now being assailed, by liberals, because it is politically useful to do so.  Later.....when FEMA fails again....under Democrat leadership....maybe again in North Carolina.....you can be silent once more.

No, FEMA is being assailed by liberals because of the Trump's adminstration's mishandling of the situation, which comes on the heels of proposed budget cuts and staff reductions of employees. 

[Fnord 2,257]

11 minutes ago, RLLD said:

You misunderstand me.  FEMA is an issue, overall, it always has been.  It's only now being assailed, by liberals, because it is politically useful to do so.  Later.....when FEMA fails again....under Democrat leadership....maybe again in North Carolina.....you can be silent once more.

Agreed, it has never been an agency that seems like it's particularly well run, regardless of the administration. But it's better than nothing, and the biggest issues seem to typically arise from poor leadership and lack of funding. What this admin is intentionally doing is gutting it, purposefully making it even less effective. I wouldn't be silent about that regardless of the letter behind the president's name. 

I also say this as an American that is among the very least likely to ever need their services, so the personal effect on me is basically non-existent. I just have this unfortunate condition in which I actually GAF about people, even those that vote differently than me.

[BrahmaBulls 757]

13 minutes ago, squistion said:

No, FEMA is being assailed by liberals because of the Trump's adminstration's mishandling of the situation, which comes on the heels of proposed budget cuts and staff reductions of employees. 

Do you ever get tired of being wrong because you're a partisan hack?

[seafoam1 3,011]

10 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said:

Do you ever get tired of being wrong because you're a partisan hack?

 

24 minutes ago, squistion said:

No.

 

[RLLD 4,228]

28 minutes ago, squistion said:

No, FEMA is being assailed by liberals because of the Trump's adminstration's mishandling of the situation, which comes on the heels of proposed budget cuts and staff reductions of employees. 

No, only because it might be useful to attack Trump.  You can nothing for these people, it is a common theme with liberals to lie about "caring" while implementing policy that harms. There have been opportunities in the past to join with those who understand that government IS THE PROBLEM.....and assail FEMA then, but oh no....you see, that might tend to hurt your political power....so fock those people....

THAT is liberalism

[RLLD 4,228]

17 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Agreed, it has never been an agency that seems like it's particularly well run, regardless of the administration. But it's better than nothing, and the biggest issues seem to typically arise from poor leadership and lack of funding. What this admin is intentionally doing is gutting it, purposefully making it even less effective. I wouldn't be silent about that regardless of the letter behind the president's name. 

I also say this as an American that is among the very least likely to ever need their services, so the personal effect on me is basically non-existent. I just have this unfortunate condition in which I actually GAF about people, even those that vote differently than me.

Government provides three main influences to any situation.  1) Make it take longer to secure a service   2) Make that service more expensive and  3) Make that service cost more.

That is the essence of government.

So when it comes to FEMA. I think it could be an organization that provides rather useful and important support.  In order for that to be true.....every.....single....assh0le.... in leadership at FEMA has to go......

They need to wipe away everything they are today.  That is the only way to fix that org ( I have worked directly with them on programs in the past)

[Fnord 2,257]

15 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Government provides three main influences to any situation.  1) Make it take longer to secure a service   2) Make that service more expensive and  3) Make that service cost more.

That is the essence of government.

So when it comes to FEMA. I think it could be an organization that provides rather useful and important support.  In order for that to be true.....every.....single....assh0le.... in leadership at FEMA has to go......

They need to wipe away everything they are today.  That is the only way to fix that org ( I have worked directly with them on programs in the past)

Well thanks for your opinion. What you're suggesting 

a) won't happen, since the leadership was put in place by your boy DJT, who only hires the best people to disassemble the organizations they're in charge of

b) will do absolutely nothing to help those that need it in the next few years

c) will cause untold damage in the immediate and foreseeable future

Seems like you're letting your stark partisanship and personal feelings about FEMA (which I am not arguing with) get in the way of the need to actually help American citizens when they need it most.

[supermike80 1,900]

43 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Agreed, it has never been an agency that seems like it's particularly well run, regardless of the administration. But it's better than nothing, and the biggest issues seem to typically arise from poor leadership and lack of funding. What this admin is intentionally doing is gutting it, purposefully making it even less effective. I wouldn't be silent about that regardless of the letter behind the president's name. 

I also say this as an American that is among the very least likely to ever need their services, so the personal effect on me is basically non-existent. I just have this unfortunate condition in which I actually GAF about people, even those that vote differently than me.

Ok saying it is terribly run and an ineffective organization then following it up with it's better than nothing, doesn't work for me

[Hardcore troubadour 15,393]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Didn’t a coast guard guy save 165 people? 

[RLLD 4,228]

17 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Well thanks for your opinion. What you're suggesting 

a) won't happen, since the leadership was put in place by your boy DJT, who only hires the best people to disassemble the organizations they're in charge of

b) will do absolutely nothing to help those that need it in the next few years

c) will cause untold damage in the immediate and foreseeable future

Seems like you're letting your stark partisanship and personal feelings about FEMA (which I am not arguing with) get in the way of the need to actually help American citizens when they need it most.

I would like to propose something.  For a few moments/posts.....place your Trump Derangement on hold, and consider the wider perspective.   FEMA will be a problem, regardless of who the President might be.

Eliminating the bureaucracy IS the solution.  Its not a perfect solution, its the best of all possible approaches....even if it not perfect, or doesnt deliver some uptopian outcome, it would improve it.

Also, I say lower the cost twice, I meant to say it also makes it take longer to get that lower quality and more expensive outcome.

[Fnord 2,257]

7 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Ok saying it is terribly run and an ineffective organization then following it up with it's better than nothing, doesn't work for me

I don't disagree.

I love the show MASH. I also work in healthcare and understand aseptic cleaning techniques and sterile fields. Let's do an exercise:

Supermike catches some shrapnel in combat. He is going to die without near-immediate medical intervention, but that intervention comes in the form of a field medic, who is bloodied and muddied from head to toe and using supplies and instruments that fall well below medical cleanliness standards. Are you going to accept the immediate help, knowing that the chances of future complications are very high, but that you have a much better chance to live? Or are you going to say no and probably die because the circumstances suck?

[Fnord 2,257]

5 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I would like to propose something.  For a few moments/posts.....place your Trump Derangement on hold, and consider the wider perspective.   FEMA will be a problem, regardless of who the President might be.

Eliminating the bureaucracy IS the solution.  Its not a perfect solution, its the best of all possible approaches....even if it not perfect, or doesnt deliver some uptopian outcome, it would improve it.

Also, I say lower the cost twice, I meant to say it also makes it take longer to get that lower quality and more expensive outcome.

Sure, tamp down the bureaucracy. Make it more efficient. That is a perfectly reasonable goal.

To do that, one would need to install seasoned professionals in leadership. Ones with extensive experience in emergency response and management, large scale logisitical coordination, and intimate knowledge of related policies/procedures. One would propose and enact new, streamlined policies in a measured, planned manner that does not sacrifice the immediate ability of the agency to properly do its job, which is to help Americans in their most vulnerable times.

One would not hire a hairdo with altered lips whose biggest qualification is subservience and whose mandate is to demolish a vital, if imperfect, organization, with no thought whatsoever as to what the fallout will be. 

You're proposing a cure that's worse than the disease.