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RFK Jr cancels $500 million for vaccine development

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17 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Saving money?  Sure.  I'll take that over open borders any day of the week.  I mean, why can't the pharmaceutical companies foot the bill?  Y'know, the pharmaceutical companies you and your side constantly rail on about?  Now you're defending them?  GTFO.

You drama queens get all butt hurt whenever ANYTHING gets cancelled.  You should run your own household with the same method and see how long you can last.

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19 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

No. This concerns me.  My (admittedly uninformed) scientific opinion is that mRNA vaccines, while arguably rushed for the Covid vaccines, have significant promise and should not be defunded.  Instead they should be better vetted.

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11 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Saving money?  Sure.  I'll take that over open borders any day of the week.  I mean, why can't the pharmaceutical companies foot the bill?  Y'know, the pharmaceutical companies you and your side constantly rail on about?  Now you're defending them?  GTFO.

You drama queens get all butt hurt whenever ANYTHING gets cancelled.  You should run your own household with the same method and see how long you can last.

Open borders?  Wtf does that have to do with vaccine development, Mr Strawman?

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2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

No. This concerns me.  My (admittedly uninformed) scientific opinion is that mRNA vaccines, while arguably rushed for the Covid vaccines, have significant promise and should not be defunded.  Instead they should be better vetted.

They weren't as "rushed" as MAGAs have catastrophized them to be. Development kicked into high gear with SARS, which didn't go pandemic, and then again with MERS. There was a huge body of research in place when COVID hit and research and development went into high gear. Trump focked up the rollout because it didn't get much farther than vaccinating medical professionals. 

And you of all people should be livid about cuts to cancer research. 

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4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Open borders?  Wtf does that have to do with vaccine development, Mr Strawman?

Yeah, illegal immigration has come to a halt, but MAGAs still need to have something to whine about and blame Biden, so they trot out that whole tired "open borders" phrase, never mind that our borders have never been "wide open." 

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3 minutes ago, Sandy Loam said:

They weren't as "rushed" as MAGAs have catastrophized them to be. Development kicked into high gear with SARS, which didn't go pandemic, and then again with MERS. There was a huge body of research in place when COVID hit and research and development went into high gear. Trump focked up the rollout because it didn't get much farther than vaccinating medical professionals. 

And you of all people should be livid about cuts to cancer research. 

Hey now, a righty saying “this concerns me” is about the best you’re going to get in terms of criticizing something from this admin

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4 minutes ago, Sandy Loam said:

Yeah, illegal immigration has come to a halt, but MAGAs still need to have something to whine about and blame Biden, so they trot out that whole tired "open borders" phrase, never mind that our borders have never been "wide open." 

Rusty whining again. 😆

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1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Hey now, a righty saying “this concerns me” is about the best you’re going to get in terms of criticizing something from this admin

True dat. 

Maybe the MAGA goal is to Make Almost Eradicated Diseases Great Again.

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8 minutes ago, Sandy Loam said:

They weren't as "rushed" as MAGAs have catastrophized them to be. Development kicked into high gear with SARS, which didn't go pandemic, and then again with MERS. There was a huge body of research in place when COVID hit and research and development went into high gear. Trump focked up the rollout because it didn't get much farther than vaccinating medical professionals. 

And you of all people should be livid about cuts to cancer research. 

Well, I said "arguably," and I stand by that.  While research on them had started long before, a lot of things were accelerated in 2020.  And yes, I'm interested in cancer research, but as I said I haven't looked into this enough to state specific concerns.

6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Hey now, a righty saying “this concerns me” is about the best you’re going to get in terms of criticizing something from this admin

Please just stop engaging with me, moderate guy.  You are just a troll at this point, not interested in or worthy of serious discussion.  TIA.  

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2 minutes ago, Sandy Loam said:

 

Maybe the MAGA goal is to Make Almost Eradicated Diseases Great Again.

Nope. Your days are over soon lib boy. 

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14 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Well, I said "arguably," and I stand by that.  While research on them had started long before, a lot of things were accelerated in 2020.  And yes, I'm interested in cancer research, but as I said I haven't looked into this enough to state specific concerns.

Please just stop engaging with me, moderate guy.  You are just a troll at this point, not interested in or worthy of serious discussion.  TIA.  

I wasn’t engaging with you, I was engaging with @Sandy Loam.  Didn’t even tag you.

HTH

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16 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Well, I said "arguably," and I stand by that.  While research on them had started long before, a lot of things were accelerated in 2020. 

Gee, I wonder why "a lot of things were accelerated in 2020?"

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2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I wasn’t engaging with you, I was engaging with @Sandy Loam.  Didn’t even tag you.

HTH

"Sandy." 😆

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I'm willing to bet that peanut here said something along the lines of "liberals are so stupid."

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Just now, Sandy Loam said:

You want companies whose work has saved millions of lives to be weakened financially.

Got it!

😆 Liberals are dumb.

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3 minutes ago, Sandy Loam said:

I'm willing to bet that peanut here said something along the lines of "liberals are so stupid."

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His description includes you. You know you're dumb. :lol:

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1 minute ago, Gepetto said:

His description includes you. You know you're dumb. :lol:

You don't care if millions of people die due to an idiot head of our nation's health and weakening the companies that prevent and cure people of diseases.

 

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Just now, Sandy Loam said:

You don't care if millions of people die due to an idiot head of our nation's health and weakening the companies that prevent and cure people of diseases.

 

That's not the cause and effect of this.

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1 minute ago, Sandy Loam said:

You don't care if millions of people die due to an idiot head of our nation's health and weakening the companies that prevent and cure people of diseases.

 

Sandy is Rusty's transition name. 😆

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Just now, Gepetto said:

That's not the cause and effect of this.

Disease don't cause death?

Link?

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Just now, Sandy Loam said:

Disease don't cause death?

Link?

Pfizer has enough money to do all of the research they have planned already.

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1 minute ago, Sandy Loam said:

🤣

Ok Sandy. Did you dye your hair green when you became a 'female'? 😆

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2 minutes ago, Sandy Loam said:

Disease don't cause death?

Link?

Stop asking stupid questions. Your questions include falsehood statements within them.

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Kennedy says they don't work.  This would be consistent with what we saw with the Covid vaccines - We were told get the vaccine and you're done.  It will PREVENT you from getting Covid.  The POTUS told us that, and he has access to the best scientific minds in the world.  When we STILL got Covid, the story changed to it will MINIMIZE your infection.  What a load of crap.  Then people like Hackboy got 10 boosters and STILL got Covid.  

Not to mention, if we're funding it how come the pharmaceutical companies get all the profits and are allowed to price gouge the fock out of us?  

So yeah, I'm ok with this.  I don't see that we were getting any benefit and I KNOW for a FACT I was lied to.  

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18 minutes ago, Sandy Loam said:

Gee, I wonder why "a lot of things were accelerated in 2020?"

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I told you I'm concerned.  What do you think is your big win with me here, Scoop? :dunno: 

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5 minutes ago, Sandy Loam said:

You don't care if millions of people die due to an idiot head of our nation's health and weakening the companies that prevent and cure people of diseases.

 

Didn't see you complaining when Cuomo put Covid positive patients in nursing homes to infect all the uninfected vulnerable old people.

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Just now, Strike said:

Didn't see you complaining when Cuomo put Covid positive patients in nursing homes to infect all the uninfected vulnerable old people.

I did.

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Just now, TimHauck said:

I did.

You saw Rusty complain about Cuomo?  Link?

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16 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

How much focking money do you want to go to the Pharmaceutical Companies? 

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/05/pfizer-pfe-q2-2025-earnings-report.html

Outside of a once in a century pandemic, pharma companies make far less money on vaccines than they do on treatments that people need to take continuously (like the drug for muscular dystrophy that Vinay Prasad halted which cost patients millions of dollars each, so they paid people to smear him and get him to resign from the FDA.). That’s why they need incentive to develop vaccines.

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5 minutes ago, Strike said:

You saw Rusty complain about Cuomo?  Link?

CUOMO!

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