TimHauck 2,989 Posted August 6 5 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said: OK big guy If Biden's COS said it then it must be true Carry on So kinda like what Strike said earlier about RFK… It’s semantics IMO though to argue whether or not Trump had a “plan” for it . The “plan” was to leave it up to the states. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy Loam 207 Posted August 6 11 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said: OK big guy If Biden's COS said it then it must be true Carry on Research it for yourself. There are a bazillion links out there regarding Trump's failed COVID vaccine rollout. His plan pretty much stopped at hospitals and nursing homes. Trump's "Operaion Warp Speed" did accelerate vaccine development, and then MAGAs got all fussy about it being "rushed," even though it was their boyo who sped up development and urged people to get the vaccine. MAGAs always find something to complain about and blame Biden, liberals, trannies, BLM and Antifa about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meglamaniac 560 Posted August 6 Just now, Sandy Loam said: e. MAGAs always find something to complain about and blame Biden, liberals, trannies, BLM and Antifa about it. LOL This is hauntingly familiar, just need to substitute Liberals for MAGA and Biden with Trump, MAGAS, white males and Proud Boys Congrats Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,658 Posted August 6 53 minutes ago, Strike said: Gutterboy, with no medical experience, is whining about the guy who has access to the best doctors and scientists in the world, because that guy doesn't have medical experience. You think RFK is listening to the best doctors and scientists in the world? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,932 Posted August 6 Just now, Ron_Artest said: You think RFK is listening to the best doctors and scientists in the world? I used to think Strike was one of the smart ones around here. Or at least had integrity. I was so wrong. He has proven to be a moron and a troll. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,679 Posted August 6 6 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: You think RFK is listening to the best doctors and scientists in the world? Well I know that you're not so it's more likely that he is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,658 Posted August 6 7 minutes ago, Strike said: Well I know that you're not so it's more likely that he is That's not even a logical statement But let's break it down, I'm not listening to the experts? What opinion of mine is not supported by experts? The need for more vaccine research? The potential of mRNA vaccines? I'm literally repeating what experts are saying. I don't work in this field, but I have listened to experts, so yes I quite literally am listening to experts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy Loam 207 Posted August 6 27 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said: LOL This is hauntingly familiar, just need to substitute Liberals for MAGA and Biden with Trump, MAGAS, white males and Proud Boys Congrats Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy Loam 207 Posted August 6 6 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: That's not even a logical statement But let's break it down, I'm not listening to the experts? What opinion of mine is not supported by experts? The need for more vaccine research? The potential of mRNA vaccines? I'm literally repeating what experts are saying. I don't work in this field, but I have listened to experts, so yes I quite literally am listening to experts. MAGAs prefer denying facts and embracing the outrageously illogical. Their thinking is eerily similar to that of Flat Earthers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,182 Posted August 6 24 minutes ago, Sandy Loam said: MAGAs prefer denying facts and embracing the outrageously illogical. Their thinking is eerily similar to that of Flat Earthers. Liberals think men can get pregnant. No, that's not being a flat earther, princess Sandy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,519 Posted August 6 13 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: You weren’t ever lied to. The covid vaccine prevented you from getting the worst strains of the virus. And yes it minimized the infection. It has saved millions of lives. This is false. We were told the vaccine would prevent illness "Stop the spread." https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-health-government-and-politics-coronavirus-pandemic-46a270ce0f681caa7e4143e2ae9a0211 Quote WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden offered an absolute guarantee Wednesday that people who get their COVID-19 vaccines are completely protected from infection, sickness and death from the coronavirus. I was vaccinated, 3 shots total. I've also had Covid 3 or 4 times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,890 Posted August 6 1 hour ago, Sandy Loam said: It's well-documented, big guy. https://www.reuters.com/article/world/trump-administration-had-no-coronavirus-vaccine-distribution-plan-white-house-idUSKBN29T0FB/ According to this chart, about 23M vaccine doses were administered by 1/20/2021. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-covid-vaccinations?time=earliest..2021-01-20 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,679 Posted August 6 11 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Your posts are so asinine. This is a fine example. Yes that’s what Biden said, he thought it was true at the time. He wasn’t lying to you. And in fact the vaccine saved millions of lives. No BS. Man are you such a whiny little b!tch. You’re so lucky Biden was President; he probably saved your life and those around you. Seriously you should thank him and Fauci every single day. Instead you spout this stupid hateful nonsense. You’re so ignorant. Dude, the list of lies is endless. Fauci said his 6 foot rule was based on science but acknowledged after COVID was over that he made it up. He also lied under oath to Congress that he didn't fund research at Wuhan. They also told us COVID came from an outdoor market when we all know it came from the lab. On and on. Lie after lie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,658 Posted August 6 9 minutes ago, Strike said: Fauci said his 6 foot rule was based on science but acknowledged after COVID was over that he made it up. He also lied under oath to Congress that he didn't fund research at Wuhan. They also told us COVID came from an outdoor market when we all know it came from the lab. On and on. Lie after lie. Fauci did not say that. You're lying. The 6 foot rule was the CDC rule based on aerosal dispersion, Fauci never said he made it up He also said he didn't fund Gain of research, which he didn't as that was not the intent. The initial source theory was outdoor market but that has evolved over time. There is still no definitive source that has been agreed upon. The one doing the lying is you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,182 Posted August 6 11 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Fauci did not say that. You're lying. The 6 foot rule was the CDC rule based on aerosal dispersion, Fauci never said he made it up He also said he didn't fund Gain of research, which he didn't as that was not the intent. The initial source theory was outdoor market but that has evolved over time. There is still no definitive source that has been agreed upon. The one doing the lying is you. A supposed medical scientist completely in charge of things: "I don't recall." SOCIAL DISTANCING: The “6 feet apart” social distancing recommendation forced on Americans by federal health officials was arbitrary and not based on science. Dr. Fauci testified that this guidance — which shut down schools and small businesses nationwide — “sort of just appeared” and was not based on any scientific studies. Majority Counsel: “Do you recall when discussions regarding, kind of, the at least a 6 foot threshold began?” Dr. Fauci: “The 6 foot in the school?” Majority Counsel: “Six foot overall. I mean, 6-foot was applied at businesses—” Dr. Fauci: “Yeah.” Majority Counsel: “—it was applied in schools, it was applied here. At least how the messaging was applied was that 6-foot distancing was the distance that needed to be—“ Dr. Fauci: “You know, I don’t recall. It sort of just appeared. I don’t recall, like, a discussion of whether it should be 5 or 6 or whatever. It was just that 6 foot is—” Majority Counsel: “Did you see any studies that supported 6 feet?” Dr. Fauci: “I was not aware of studies that in fact, that would be a very difficult study to do.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,932 Posted August 6 1 hour ago, TheNewGirl said: This is false. We were told the vaccine would prevent illness "Stop the spread." https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-health-government-and-politics-coronavirus-pandemic-46a270ce0f681caa7e4143e2ae9a0211 I was vaccinated, 3 shots total. I've also had Covid 3 or 4 times. I already addressed this. That’s what Biden believed; he wasn’t lying. Anyhow why does it matter? Your life was likely saved because you took the vaccine. Millions were. if you hadn’t taken the shots, your covid might have been fatal. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,932 Posted August 6 54 minutes ago, Strike said: Dude, the list of lies is endless. Fauci said his 6 foot rule was based on science but acknowledged after COVID was over that he made it up. He also lied under oath to Congress that he didn't fund research at Wuhan. They also told us COVID came from an outdoor market when we all know it came from the lab. On and on. Lie after lie. Yeah I’ve heard all this crap before. Nine of it is true. I have no idea why you and others believe it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,182 Posted August 6 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: I already addressed this. That’s what Biden believed; he wasn’t lying. Anyhow why does it matter? Your life was likely saved because you took the vaccine. Millions were. So when liberals lie, it's not a lie because they believe it But when conservatives lie, it's because they know the truth but prefer to lie. I'm happy to see you admit conservatives know the truth and liberals are simply dense. Not getting the vaccine saved my life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,182 Posted August 6 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Yeah I’ve heard all this crap before. Nine of it is true. I have no idea why you and others believe it. Because fauci said it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,679 Posted August 6 8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Yeah I’ve heard all this crap before. Nine of it is true. I have no idea why you and others believe it. Ignorant as usual. This is all easily verifiable. Not surprised by you being willfully ignorant again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,658 Posted August 6 47 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Fauci did not say that. You're lying. The 6 foot rule was the CDC rule based on aerosal dispersion, Fauci never said he made it up He also said he didn't fund Gain of research, which he didn't as that was not the intent. The initial source theory was outdoor market but that has evolved over time. There is still no definitive source that has been agreed upon. The one doing the lying is you. Bump for the willfully ignorant Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,658 Posted August 6 11 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Yeah I’ve heard all this crap before. Nine of it is true. I have no idea why you and others believe it. I already disputed it. Strike is not a serious poster, just a lying troll. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,182 Posted August 6 Just now, Ron_Artest said: I already disputed it. Strike is not a serious poster, just a lying troll. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,679 Posted August 6 6 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: I already disputed it. Strike is not a serious poster, just a lying troll. Everything I posted is easily verifiable. You'll excuse me if I don't want to get in to an endless argument with you. That's all you, Rusty, and the Tim's do anymore. It's Tiring and boring. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,932 Posted August 6 8 minutes ago, Strike said: Everything I posted is easily verifiable. You'll excuse me if I don't want to get in to an endless argument with you. That's all you, Rusty, and the Tim's do anymore. It's Tiring and boring. Because you and others believe nonsense that was fed to you by paranoid conspiracy driven conservative media who have made a lot of money over the years by spreading this crap to you, @TheNewGirl and other dupes like you. And at the same time you choose to reject the mainstream media. I wouldn’t care but your idiocy has led directly to Trump’s re-election and helped to tear this country apart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,679 Posted August 6 Just now, The Real timschochet said: Because you and others believe nonsense that was fed to you by paranoid conspiracy driven conservative media who have made a lot of money over the years by spreading this crap to you, @TheNewGirl and other dupes like you. And at the same time you choose to reject the mainstream media. I wouldn’t care but your idiocy has led directly to Trump’s re-election and helped to tear this country apart. Everything I posted is easily verifiable. As I've said before I'll debate opinions but not facts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,182 Posted August 6 Just now, The Real timschochet said: Because you and others believe nonsense that was fed to you by paranoid conspiracy driven conservative media who have made a lot of money over the years by spreading this crap to you, @TheNewGirl and other dupes like you. And at the same time you choose to reject the mainstream media. I wouldn’t care but your idiocy has led directly to Trump’s re-election and helped to tear this country apart. Sucks to be you. Trump 2024!! I win, you lose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meglamaniac 560 Posted August 6 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: Because you and others believe nonsense that was fed to you by paranoid conspiracy driven conservative media who have made a lot of money over the years by spreading this crap to you, @TheNewGirl and other dupes like you. And at the same time you choose to reject the mainstream media. I wouldn’t care but your idiocy has led directly to Trump’s re-election and helped to tear this country apart. LOL You're hypocrisy knows no bounds, truley dumbfounding Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,932 Posted August 6 9 minutes ago, Strike said: Everything I posted is easily verifiable. As I've said before I'll debate opinions but not facts Verifiable by who? For example show us where Fauci said he made up the 6 foot rule. Here’s what he said, exactly: “It sort of just appeared. I don’t recall, like, a discussion of whether it should be 5 (feet) or 6 (feet) or whatever.” He later said the decision was empiric, based on experience and observation rather than data. He NEVER said he made it up. You’re lying. Why not just admit it? Your “facts” are actually your opinions (and false ones). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,658 Posted August 6 11 minutes ago, Strike said: Everything I posted is easily verifiable. You'll excuse me if I don't want to get in to an endless argument with you. That's all you, Rusty, and the Tim's do anymore. It's Tiring and boring. No, it's all refutable. Let's put an end to this right now. 1 hour ago, Strike said: Fauci said his 6 foot rule was based on science but acknowledged after COVID was over that he made it up. He never said and you cannot show any quote that he did. Further it wasn't his rule, it was the CDC rule, and they didn't just make it up. There is a history behind it, you can read this story about it if you like: https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2024/06/21/g-s1-5705/coronavirus-faw-if-youre-still-trying-to-stay-covid-safe-does-the-6-food-rule-matter 1 hour ago, Strike said: He also lied under oath to Congress that he didn't fund research at Wuhan. No he never did and you can't prove this. What you might be referring to is gain of function, which he said the funding was not for gain of function research, but it was one of the results. Story going into more detail if you like: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/10/29/repeated-claim-that-fauci-lied-congress-about-gain-of-function-research/ 1 hour ago, Strike said: They also told us COVID came from an outdoor market when we all know it came from the lab. Yes they did say that, but we all don't know it came from a lab. The origin is not definitive and likely will never be. Here is an article from last Sept with the latest now saying from the market: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03026-9 I'm not saying either theory is correct, just that there is no "correct" theory that can be proven. If you want to refute anything I posted, go for it. I assume you'll scurry away like you usually do. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,989 Posted August 6 3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: No, it's all refutable. Let's put an end to this right now. He never said and you cannot show any quote that he did. Hilarious that Strike is the same guy that whined about me misquoting him because I added the word “on,” and here he is just flat out lying about what people said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,932 Posted August 6 3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: No, it's all refutable. Let's put an end to this right now. He never said and you cannot show any quote that he did. Further it wasn't his rule, it was the CDC rule, and they didn't just make it up. There is a history behind it, you can read this story about it if you like: https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2024/06/21/g-s1-5705/coronavirus-faw-if-youre-still-trying-to-stay-covid-safe-does-the-6-food-rule-matter No he never did and you can't prove this. What you might be referring to is gain of function, which he said the funding was not for gain of function research, but it was one of the results. Story going into more detail if you like: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/10/29/repeated-claim-that-fauci-lied-congress-about-gain-of-function-research/ Yes they did say that, but we all don't know it came from a lab. The origin is not definitive and likely will never be. Here is an article from last Sept with the latest now saying from the market: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03026-9 I'm not saying either theory is correct, just that there is no "correct" theory that can be proven. If you want to refute anything I posted, go for it. I assume you'll scurry away like you usually do. Pwned Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,932 Posted August 6 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: Hilarious that Strike is the same guy that whined about me misquoting him because I added the word “on,” and here he is just flat out lying about what people said. He’s done that several times to me too. If I get a word wrong (usually meaningless) he calls me a liar. How many times has he boasted “I deal in facts, not opinions”. There are worse posters here but none is as full of crap as he is. (Actually I probably shouldn’t say that- he certainly has some rivals in that department.) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,658 Posted August 6 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: He’s done that several times to me too. If I get a word wrong (usually meaningless) he calls me a liar. How many times has he boasted “I deal in facts, not opinions”. There are worse posters here but none is as full of crap as he is. (Actually I probably shouldn’t say that- he certainly has some rivals in that department.) Watch his reply to me... "20 times banned alias says what? Who is this? Why would I believe you? Why are you still here?" Or he'll start with the personal attacks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,932 Posted August 6 Just now, Ron_Artest said: Watch his reply to me... "20 times banned alias says what? Who is this? Why would I believe you? Why are you still here?" Or he’s furiously searching through his right wing conspiracy sources for proof that you’re wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,989 Posted August 6 1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said: Watch his reply to me... "20 times banned alias says what? Who is this? Why would I believe you? Why are you still here?" Or he'll start with the personal attacks. Yup, they’re all so predictable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meglamaniac 560 Posted August 6 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: He’s done that several times to me too. If I get a word wrong (usually meaningless) he calls me a liar. How many times has he boasted “I deal in facts, not opinions”. There are worse posters here but none is as full of crap as he is. (Actually I probably shouldn’t say that- he certainly has some rivals in that department.) Liar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,658 Posted August 6 Just now, TimHauck said: Yup, they’re all so predictable @Meglamaniac pulled out a 20 year old cat riding meme on me after I proved to him that it was the republicans that stopped passage of the anti-gerrymandering law Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,989 Posted August 6 Just now, Meglamaniac said: Liar True, @Horseman might be more full of crap than he is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meglamaniac 560 Posted August 6 1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said: @Meglamaniac pulled out a 20 year old cat riding meme on me after I proved to him that it was the republicans that stopped passage of the anti-gerrymandering law Wrong, I didn't ask who stopped it, I asked who was in power when it was introduced. I'll ask again, wha was in power? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
