Herbivore 1,143 Posted yesterday at 12:07 AM 9 hours ago, Ron_Artest said: What a cuck. He was caught on a hot mic saying that he thinks Putin will agree to a deal for him. it's disappointing that got leaked or put out, whatever. it hurts us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,680 Posted yesterday at 12:12 AM 5 minutes ago, Herbivore said: it's disappointing that got leaked or put out, whatever. it hurts us. How so? The entire world is laughing at him and us anyway, right? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,190 Posted yesterday at 12:17 AM 4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: How so? The entire world is laughing at him and us anyway, right? TDS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,190 Posted yesterday at 12:21 AM 7 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Did he? I had forgotten that bit of Glen Beck fabricated garbage, it’s been a long time since I’ve heard it. Did this collaboration take place before or after his entire family was murdered? (Much like mine.) TDS whining on and on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,143 Posted yesterday at 01:13 AM 59 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: How so? The entire world is laughing at him and us anyway, right? it hurts his leverage, on some level could make Putin step back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy Loam 219 Posted yesterday at 01:37 AM 24 minutes ago, Herbivore said: it hurts his leverage, on some level could make Putin step back Putin does not step back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,542 Posted yesterday at 01:55 AM 9 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Did he? I had forgotten that bit of Glen Beck fabricated garbage, it’s been a long time since I’ve heard it. Did this collaboration take place before or after his entire family was murdered? (Much like mine.) How old are you ? The Nazis were done by 1944. So how did your entire family get wiped out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,143 Posted yesterday at 02:44 AM 1 hour ago, Sandy Loam said: Putin does not step back. step back from negotiating Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy Loam 219 Posted yesterday at 03:24 AM 37 minutes ago, Herbivore said: step back from negotiating When he gets proposed concessions - such as Ukraine giving up occupied and some unoccupied territory and Ukraine not joining NATO - that's Putin's hold position as he gives up nothing, at least nothing we can see so far. This is how Russians negotiate. Give them an inch, and they'll push for a mile. We shall see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,190 Posted yesterday at 03:47 AM 22 minutes ago, Sandy Loam said: When he gets proposed concessions - such as Ukraine giving up occupied and some unoccupied territory and Ukraine not joining NATO - that's Putin's hold position as he gives up nothing, at least nothing we can see so far. This is how Russians negotiate. Give them an inch, and they'll push for a mile. We shall see. If only princess sandy was so dumb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,545 Posted yesterday at 04:12 AM 24 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: If only princess sandy was so dumb. Go away 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,545 Posted yesterday at 04:12 AM 1 hour ago, Herbivore said: step back from negotiating This Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,190 Posted yesterday at 04:15 AM 2 minutes ago, SUXBNME said: Go away Go away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,966 Posted yesterday at 05:28 AM 3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: How old are you ? The Nazis were done by 1944. So how did your entire family get wiped out? My grandparents and my dad survived. They escaped from Germany to Romania and lived there as refugees until 1944. Then they escaped into the forest outside Bucharest, They lived hiding in the forest for over a year. When they came out my grandfather weighed 72 pounds. But my both my grandparents lost their entire families, over 20 relatives I think. My dad was 6 years old when he came out of the forest. My grandparents wandered to Vienna but like Berlin it was occupied by the four powers and my grandparents were in the Communist zone. My grandparents snuck across to the American zone- they would have been shot by the Russians had they been caught- they were, quite literally, undocumented immigrants. They came to this country with no papers. This fact probably plays a role in my deep feelings about this subject. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,104 Posted 22 hours ago 2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: My dad was 6 years old when he came out of the forest Was he raised by Wolves? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,680 Posted 19 hours ago Russia tells Trump they're not ready to meet now. WHOOPS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,542 Posted 15 hours ago 9 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: My grandparents and my dad survived. They escaped from Germany to Romania and lived there as refugees until 1944. Then they escaped into the forest outside Bucharest, They lived hiding in the forest for over a year. When they came out my grandfather weighed 72 pounds. But my both my grandparents lost their entire families, over 20 relatives I think. My dad was 6 years old when he came out of the forest. My grandparents wandered to Vienna but like Berlin it was occupied by the four powers and my grandparents were in the Communist zone. My grandparents snuck across to the American zone- they would have been shot by the Russians had they been caught- they were, quite literally, undocumented immigrants. They came to this country with no papers. This fact probably plays a role in my deep feelings about this subject. Someone coming here from Honduras illegally to clean your house and send money back home isn’t the same. Or even close. But I guess you can tell yourself it is. Conflating the holocaust with that is really, really weak. Some might say it’s disgusting. You sure can find empathy when it suits you though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,966 Posted 14 hours ago 32 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Someone coming here from Honduras illegally to clean your house and send money back home isn’t the same. Or even close. But I guess you can tell yourself it is. Conflating the holocaust with that is really, really weak. Some might say it’s disgusting. You sure can find empathy when it suits you though. I have no idea why anyone would find it disgusting. When my grandparents came here the Holocaust was over. They were escaping Communism and they came here for a better life. That is why most people come here. I’m sympathetic to such people and I’ve never quite understood why others wouldn’t be. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,104 Posted 14 hours ago 5 hours ago, Ron_Artest said: Russia tells Trump they're not ready to meet now. WHOOPS! Whoops what? Putin ultimately decides when it ends. Zelensky better start offering up some land before there's nothing left. Zelensky has to make the deal, not Trump Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,966 Posted 13 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Whoops what? Putin ultimately decides when it ends. Zelensky better start offering up some land before there's nothing left. Zelensky has to make the deal, not Trump Seriously do you work for the Russian media? Because all you do is spew their bullsh!t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 442 Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: 2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Someone coming here from Honduras illegally to clean your house and send money back home isn’t the same. Or even close. But I guess you can tell yourself it is. Conflating the holocaust with that is really, really weak. Some might say it’s disgusting. You sure can find empathy when it suits you though. I have no idea why anyone would find it disgusting. When my grandparents came here the Holocaust was over. They were escaping Communism and they came here for a better life. That is why most people come here. I’m sympathetic to such people and I’ve never quite understood why others wouldn’t be. I have a theory on this. I think the reason why is that everyone in this country (except NA's) has someone who came from some other country. Of course. Almost no one came here because things were great in the Old Country. It's always a variety of reasons but usually it's war, poverty (or as Trump would say a real sh!+hole country), disease, hunger. One of those things. I mean, why would HT2 or anyone like him drop everything they have in the world, all their family, all their possessions, their property, anything they have and everything they're ever gonna have in that place, to travel thousands of miles away? Obviously because they were desperate. That was certainly the case for Trump himself. His grandfather fled war (he evaded the draft making himself a wanted criminal in Germany). His mother fled poverty (Isle of Lewis was a fishing community that had overfished its stock, it was the sort of sh!+hole place Trump talks about). His grandfather fled the US to Canada to run prostitutes out of a "hotel", returned to the US, left the US, was evicted from Germany despite begging to stay, had to come back to the US. Trump's mother, Mary McLeod, worked as a maid, a domestic servant (she followed her sister & lived with her), but she also left the US & returned to Scotland and planned to stay there if she hadn't hooked up with a wealthy Manhattanite. Apparently McLeod (his mother) finally became a US citizen, but only after popping out two kids. Of course this is exactly the sort of person being targeted & deported today. Trump's grandfather changed his name, like so many other people with "weird" sounding names. "Drumpf" sounds awfully, oh I dunno, foreign. I think what's going on is that people lose touch with their roots. Who knows maybe HT2 has had 40 forbears who came to America? Maybe just 4? Who knows, but if we had a "live look in" for why they left it was probably awful desperation - war, famine, disease, etc. - same as everyone. Probably not all or even many or most didn't have their paperwork. Many people got passed along the way, by the Italians, Irish, Hispanics, blacks, who knows, which probably fueled resentment. But I think at the core of it it's often a sense of shame. That's what I think motivates Trump. Can't prove it but shame is a powerful motivating factor, for much bad behavior in the world or at least just negativity for lack of a better polite term. Now what this has to do with Russia-Ukraine, I don't know, except we seem to have to constantly learn the lesson in this country that abundance and democracy abroad means abundance and peace at home. And again after maybe 3 generations people just forget. (Folks, I'm not replying. I just thought Tim's heartfelt reply deserved a decent response. God Bless America. Have a good one.) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,569 Posted 12 hours ago 14 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: I have a theory on this. I think the reason why is that everyone in this country (except NA's) has someone who came from some other country. Of course. Almost no one came here because things were great in the Old Country. It's always a variety of reasons but usually it's war, poverty (or as Trump would say a real sh!+hole country), disease, hunger. One of those things. I mean, why would HT2 or anyone like him drop everything they have in the world, all their family, all their possessions, their property, anything they have and everything they're ever gonna have in that place, to travel thousands of miles away? Obviously because they were desperate. That was certainly the case for Trump himself. His grandfather fled war (he evaded the draft making himself a wanted criminal in Germany). His mother fled poverty (Isle of Lewis was a fishing community that had overfished its stock, it was the sort of sh!+hole place Trump talks about). His grandfather fled the US to Canada to run prostitutes out of a "hotel", returned to the US, left the US, was evicted from Germany despite begging to stay, had to come back to the US. Trump's mother, Mary McLeod, worked as a maid, a domestic servant (she followed her sister & lived with her), but she also left the US & returned to Scotland and planned to stay there if she hadn't hooked up with a wealthy Manhattanite. Apparently McLeod (his mother) finally became a US citizen, but only after popping out two kids. Of course this is exactly the sort of person being targeted & deported today. Trump's grandfather changed his name, like so many other people with "weird" sounding names. "Drumpf" sounds awfully, oh I dunno, foreign. I think what's going on is that people lose touch with their roots. Who knows maybe HT2 has had 40 forbears who came to America? Maybe just 4? Who knows, but if we had a "live look in" for why they left it was probably awful desperation - war, famine, disease, etc. - same as everyone. Probably not all or even many or most didn't have their paperwork. Many people got passed along the way, by the Italians, Irish, Hispanics, blacks, who knows, which probably fueled resentment. But I think at the core of it it's often a sense of shame. That's what I think motivates Trump. Can't prove it but shame is a powerful motivating factor, for much bad behavior in the world or at least just negativity for lack of a better polite term. Now what this has to do with Russia-Ukraine, I don't know, except we seem to have to constantly learn the lesson in this country that abundance and democracy abroad means abundance and peace at home. And again after maybe 3 generations people just forget. (Folks, I'm not replying. I just thought Tim's heartfelt reply deserved a decent response. God Bless America. Have a good one.) WTF is this vomit post? Seek professional help. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,680 Posted 10 hours ago On 8/17/2025 at 4:46 PM, Horseman said: Looks like the BOSS is threading a needle here. Not looking good for the Putin is playing Trump Skyscreamers. Update? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,680 Posted 10 hours ago On 8/17/2025 at 5:55 PM, Horseman said: You're the one that didn't read Rusty's article chump. It was Trump's idea and they are saying Putin agreed to it. Take a few minutes and educate yourself with the latest news. So much for nothing happened in Alaska. Doh! So much for Putin agreeing to it. Doh! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,680 Posted 9 hours ago On 8/18/2025 at 3:25 PM, Horseman said: Are you weaklings listening to this? Tiny Z and the rest of Europe are in lock step with Trump. Every single one thanking the BOSS for getting them this far. The most progress they've had gotten in 3.5 years by far. Everything they talked about, the top being a security agreement, they all came to agreement on. Next step is to set up a meeting between Tiny Z and Tiny P. The BOSS said he'd set it up and would attend if Tiny Z wanted, doesn't think he needs to. Tiny Z wants the BOSS to attend. Tiny Z even wants a copy of the map Trump had made. (Presumablly new borders?) "Thank you Trump" Also on top of the agenda getting all the prisoners released. It's AMAZING the BOSS has gotten Tiny Z and Tiny P even to agree to meet. AMAZING Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,680 Posted 9 hours ago On 8/18/2025 at 6:40 PM, Horseman said: Phone call made. There is supposed to be a meeting first between Tiny Z and Tiny P. Then a second where the BOSS joins them. Seems like both want the BOSS involved although he offered to step aside early today. BOSS When's that meeting happening? What a sucker you are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,569 Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said: BOSS When's that meeting happening? What a sucker you are. Tiny Brian quadfecta! Are you OK? Like I said earlier, you must have missed it in your hyperventilating, Trump did his part. If no deal comes from this Tiny P and Tiny Z are to blame. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. Glad you're so giddy that the bodies are still piling up. I don't mind it either as long as we don't waist any more tax dollars on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,680 Posted 8 hours ago 22 minutes ago, Horseman said: Tiny Brian quadfecta! Are you OK? Like I said earlier, you must have missed it in your hyperventilating, Trump did his part. If no deal comes from this Tiny P and Tiny Z are to blame. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. Glad you're so giddy that the bodies are still piling up. I don't mind it either as long as we don't waist any more tax dollars on it. GAMECHANGER Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,966 Posted 8 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: GAMECHANGER I agree with you that @Horseman and others were absurdly wrong in their estimation of Trump. But I don’t think there’s anything to be too gleeful about. People are still dying in real time in Ukraine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,966 Posted 8 hours ago 27 minutes ago, Horseman said: Tiny Brian quadfecta! Are you OK? Like I said earlier, you must have missed it in your hyperventilating, Trump did his part. If no deal comes from this Tiny P and Tiny Z are to blame. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. Glad you're so giddy that the bodies are still piling up. I don't mind it either as long as we don't waist any more tax dollars on it. I don’t think Zelenskyy is to blame at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,569 Posted 8 hours ago Just now, The Real timschochet said: I don’t think Zelenskyy is to blame at all. Not up on the news, but whichever is refusing to meet. And we also agree GutterBoy is a garbage human. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,569 Posted 8 hours ago 20 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: GAMECHANGER European leaders: "Trump has gotten us further than anyone in the past 3.5 year." Is there even record of Biden talking to Putin since the war started? Didn't think so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,542 Posted 7 hours ago You can only make peace with your enemies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,680 Posted 7 hours ago 6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I agree with you that @Horseman and others were absurdly wrong in their estimation of Trump. But I don’t think there’s anything to be too gleeful about. People are still dying in real time in Ukraine. I'm not gleeful about people dying, don't be stupid. I'm simply mocking horseman for believing that Trump actually got Putin to agree to security guarantees and a meeting with zelensky. I told him it was probably a lie and I was right. You and I agree on how to end this war, and trump is doing the opposite. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,190 Posted 7 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: I'm not gleeful about people dying, don't be stupid. I'm simply mocking horseman for believing that Trump actually got Putin to agree to security guarantees and a meeting with zelensky. I told him it was probably a lie and I was right. You and I agree on how to end this war, and trump is doing the opposite. Still whining about Trump. It literally never stops from these libtards. What a bunch of sad people they are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,569 Posted 7 hours ago Tiny P doesn't want to acknowledge Tiny Z as a legitimate leader in front of his people. Moscow wanting talks between higher delegates instead and sees Trump as the man to deal with. Late in the 4th quarter and they're calling on the BOSS to keep carrying the football despite 200 yards and 3 touchdowns already. Three guys with tiny man syndrome. Amazing the BOSS made it this far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,966 Posted 6 hours ago 24 minutes ago, Horseman said: Tiny P doesn't want to acknowledge Tiny Z as a legitimate leader in front of his people. Moscow wanting talks between higher delegates instead and sees Trump as the man to deal with. Late in the 4th quarter and they're calling on the BOSS to keep carrying the football despite 200 yards and 3 touchdowns already. Three guys with tiny man syndrome. Amazing the BOSS made it this far. The only good thing about Putin’s unwillingness to compromise is that it may very well force Trump, and maybe even you too, to fully support Ukraine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,569 Posted 6 hours ago 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: The only good thing about Putin’s unwillingness to compromise is that it may very well force Trump, and maybe even you too, to fully support Ukraine. And in the real world - not a chance in hell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,190 Posted 6 hours ago 9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: The only good thing about Putin’s unwillingness to compromise is that it may very well force Trump, and maybe even you too, to fully support Ukraine. Only you liberals want to support the heaviest human trafficking country in business prior to the war. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,680 Posted 6 hours ago 49 minutes ago, Horseman said: Tiny P doesn't want to acknowledge Tiny Z as a legitimate leader in front of his people. Moscow wanting talks between higher delegates instead and sees Trump as the man to deal with. Late in the 4th quarter and they're calling on the BOSS to keep carrying the football despite 200 yards and 3 touchdowns already. Three guys with tiny man syndrome. Amazing the BOSS made it this far. Everyone with a brain can see this is Putin playing games with Trump so he can keep fighting. You of course can't understand this because you're an idiot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites