2025 NFL Offensive Lines

[cmh6476 1,043]

I'm going to start working on projections, and I base a lot of my projected QB and RB success on the status of O-Lines.  Which takes a bunch of time to google for various teams, see what changes have taken place in the offseason, and evaluate where strengths and weaknesses lie.

With that said, I've always thought this place was most valuable for the insight you got from locals who knew the most about their team, so I'm asking what you know relative to where your local team's O-Line stands.

For KC:

Key departures:

• G Joe Thuney traded to the Bears for a 4th round pick
• OT DJ Humphries signed with LA Rams in the offseason

New arrivals:

• OT Josh Simmons drafted with the 32nd overall pick in the 2025 NFL draft
• OT Jaylon Moore signed in March of 2025

Other Notes:

• G Trey Smith signed to a 4-year extension in July
• C Creed Humphrey signed 4-year extension last year

Analysis:

If you recall in the playoffs, injuries forced the Chiefs to move Thuney a Guard out to play LT as he was their best option.  He fared well, although not a prototypical LT, but then that impacted the play of the interior 0-line.  The Chiefs wanted to address the Tackle position in the offseason, and I'm a homer but I think they did about as well as they could.

Humphrey and Smith I believe are the highest paid players at their respective positions, so the interior of the Chiefs line will remain beefy.  Josh Simmons has exceeded expectations, and I've heard the Chiefs expected him to go way earlier than he did and they feel like they found their LT of the future.  Something you'd never expect when you're drafting near the 30's in the first round year after year.  He's manned the position from the onset in training camp and preseason and really appears to be holding his own.  You'd expect to have a learning curb with a rookie playing LT, but we're excited that it won't be Jawaan Taylor lining up offside and jumping early, even if the refs aren't calling it every play 

This has created sort of a competition at RT with offseason acquisition Jaylon Moore and Jawaan Taylor who is still with the team, which is good for depth and gives the Chiefs some options.  Second year guy Kingsley Suamataia is getting the opportunity to be the starting LG, and that's the position with the biggest question mark heading into the season.  There's some additional depth and competition specifically at LG, but overall I feel really good about the prospects for the OL going into the year.

 

Not that I expect that much insight, but at least sentiments of whether your team's O-Line will be pretty good or suck in the coming year would be helpful

[cmh6476 1,043]

As I'm googling where to get decent info, the first place I go is the analysis of the Chiefs, which presents a very different picture than I've outlined here.  Which again, is why I prefer to hear from locals:

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2025-nfl-offensive-line-rankings

20. Kansas City Chiefs

While the Chiefs will hope they solved their issues at left tackle via offseason moves, they may regret trading guard Joe Thuney. Free-agent acquisition Jaylon Moore and rookie first-round pick Josh Simmons are the candidates to protect Patrick Mahomes’ left side after Kansas City's disastrous left tackle situation last season.

The interior duo of center Creed Humphrey and right guard Trey Smith prevents this unit from ranking lower, but unless Moore or Simmons can step up immediately, we might see the worst Chiefs offensive line of recent years in 2025.

 

https://www.fantasypros.com/2025/07/nfl-offensive-line-rankings-fantasy-football/

19	Pittsburgh Steelers
20	Kansas City Chiefs
21	Dallas Cowboys

 

https://www.thehuddle.com/story/sports/fantasy/football/2025/08/13/nfl-offensive-line-rankings-2025-fantasy-football/85636853007/

21. Kansas City Chiefs

C Creed Humphrey is arguably the best center in the league, while the team essentially prioritized 26-year-old RG Trey Smith over 32-year-old RG Joe Thuney in free agency. First-round draft choice LT Josh Simmons has a chance to emerge as the most dominant offensive lineman from this draft class, although the injury he is trying to return from (a torn patellar tendon in his left knee) is one of the most difficult recoveries for any athlete. After that, Kansas City has a ton of question marks. Kingsley Suamataia is expected to win the left guard job after taking only 31 snaps there as a rookie following his short-lived time as the starting left tackle. RT Jawaan Taylor has also been among the most penalized linemen in the league since joining the Chiefs two seasons ago. Kansas City added nice depth at tackle with Jaylon Moore (assuming he does not steal Taylor's job), but the depth after that is not great.

 

 

[cmh6476 1,043]

Also just found this posted by someone on reddit, which is what I was kind of planning to do on my own and will save me a bunch of time

[LaChup 233]

I've always found the Bears line to be offensive.

[cmh6476 1,043]

1 hour ago, LaChup said:

I've always found the Bears line to be offensive.

They seem greatly improved from a year ago

[Maximum Overkill 2,147]

7 hours ago, cmh6476 said:

I'm going to start working on projections, and I base a lot of my projected QB and RB success on the status of O-Lines.  Which takes a bunch of time to google for various teams, see what changes have taken place in the offseason, and evaluate where strengths and weaknesses lie.

With that said, I've always thought this place was most valuable for the insight you got from locals who knew the most about their team, so I'm asking what you know relative to where your local team's O-Line stands.

For KC:

Key departures:

• G Joe Thuney traded to the Bears for a 4th round pick
• OT DJ Humphries signed with LA Rams in the offseason

New arrivals:

• OT Josh Simmons drafted with the 32nd overall pick in the 2025 NFL draft
• OT Jaylon Moore signed in March of 2025

Other Notes:

• G Trey Smith signed to a 4-year extension in July
• C Creed Humphrey signed 4-year extension last year

Analysis:

If you recall in the playoffs, injuries forced the Chiefs to move Thuney a Guard out to play LT as he was their best option.  He fared well, although not a prototypical LT, but then that impacted the play of the interior 0-line.  The Chiefs wanted to address the Tackle position in the offseason, and I'm a homer but I think they did about as well as they could.

Humphrey and Smith I believe are the highest paid players at their respective positions, so the interior of the Chiefs line will remain beefy.  Josh Simmons has exceeded expectations, and I've heard the Chiefs expected him to go way earlier than he did and they feel like they found their LT of the future.  Something you'd never expect when you're drafting near the 30's in the first round year after year.  He's manned the position from the onset in training camp and preseason and really appears to be holding his own.  You'd expect to have a learning curb with a rookie playing LT, but we're excited that it won't be Jawaan Taylor lining up offside and jumping early, even if the refs aren't calling it every play 

This has created sort of a competition at RT with offseason acquisition Jaylon Moore and Jawaan Taylor who is still with the team, which is good for depth and gives the Chiefs some options.  Second year guy Kingsley Suamataia is getting the opportunity to be the starting LG, and that's the position with the biggest question mark heading into the season.  There's some additional depth and competition specifically at LG, but overall I feel really good about the prospects for the OL going into the year.

 

Not that I expect that much insight, but at least sentiments of whether your team's O-Line will be pretty good or suck in the coming year would be helpful

I wouldn't be too confident after that epic curbstomping vs Philly in the Superbowl. Jesus himself couldn't of stopped that onslaught. 

[cmh6476 1,043]

30 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

I wouldn't be too confident after that epic curbstomping vs Philly in the Superbowl. Jesus himself couldn't of stopped that onslaught. 

My experience (see the Chiefs after the tb loss) is that the front office addresses issues after they are exposed.   This team is now built to perform well against a stacked defensive front like the eagles.   I hope.

[Maximum Overkill 2,147]

11 hours ago, cmh6476 said:

My experience (see the Chiefs after the tb loss) is that the front office addresses issues after they are exposed.   This team is now built to perform well against a stacked defensive front like the eagles.   I hope.

They brought in mediocre to average replacements. They've actually gotten worse on the on-line. And #20 is extremely generous. 

KC will be lucky to make the playoffs this year. I could see them finishing 3rd in the West. 

[cmh6476 1,043]

Looks like everybody else done focked up

[JagFan 174]

3 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

They brought in mediocre to average replacements. They've actually gotten worse on the on-line. And #20 is extremely generous. 

KC will be lucky to make the playoffs this year. I could see them finishing 3rd in the West. 

Well the phantom fouls being called against the other teams defenses is worth at least 8-10 spots.  

[Maximum Overkill 2,147]

31 minutes ago, JagFan said:

Well the phantom fouls being called against the other teams defenses is worth at least 8-10 spots.  

Truth 

[cmh6476 1,043]

cry some more

 

I didn't start this thread to debate the Chiefs, I started this thread so you all would have more in-depth analysis from someone who watches that team more closely than other NFL teams, asking for the same from other fans.  But yet, here we are.

 

[Maximum Overkill 2,147]

22 minutes ago, cmh6476 said:

didn't start this thread to debate the Chiefs

What are you talking about? Every single one of your posts are Chiefs news. How about posting something else. Nobody cares about the Chiefs but you. 

[JagFan 174]

1 hour ago, Maximum Overkill said:

What are you talking about? Every single one of your posts are Chiefs news. How about posting something else. Nobody cares about the Chiefs but you. 

Him and the cheese vendors that were brought in for Kelce’s new bride.

[cmh6476 1,043]

I'm starting threads about draft strategy and oline contributions and you two knuckleheads just follow me around and post "blah blah blah Eagles won" and "blah blah blah refs and cheat" cause you ain't got nothing else

[jrokh 610]

Cool thread bruh....

[cmh6476 1,043]

19 minutes ago, jrokh said:

Cool thread bruh....

it could be.  Threads like these were great 20 years ago

[listen2me 23 1,900]

Packers

LT:  Walker/Morgan

Walker has been very good especially for a 7th rounder.  But he is coming up on a deal and would like Morgan (last years 1st) to find his starting spot.   Well Morgan has an up and down camp but just logged the best pass block grade of any OL to log a snap this preseason.  He may have stole the job over thr last few weeks.  

LG: Aaron Banks (FA paid good money)

Packers quite obviously want to get bigger and more physical up front.  They have been more of a pass blocking group over the years.  He has been injured and not exactly impressive.  I did not understand this pick up.  TBD for me here.  

Center:  Elgton Jenkins

Pro Bowl left guard that had played some center in college.  They let Josh Myers walk.   They believe he can be an even better center.   Should be fine but still it is again TBD on how it works out.  

RG: Sean Rhyan

Started here all year orher than the team using a semi committee here with Morgan getting a random 15 snaps until Morgan got hurt.  He has steadily improved over the years.  He has won me over to the point of not feeling that spot is a weakness any longer. 

RT:   Zach Tom

Pro Bowl caliber RT.  Maybe top 6 RT in the league.  He is good but id like to see him get even more consistent.   

Reserve: Anthony Belton T/G.  2nd round rookie.  Imposing lineman.  He has been hit or miss this offseason.  If he cleans up the flags he could be a valuable backup.  

I expect they will find their way to another good year.  But there are a lot of moving parts for a group that has so many of the same guys as last year.  Still a pretty youthful but experienced OL.  Even if good, I am still afraid that when they meet elite fronts they may get handled again.  

Jacobs was 2nd in yards after contact per attempt.  And 2nd in broken tackles.  I trust them to scheme run it well.  But at times he really does have to work for most all of it.  

 

 

[Ray_T 761]

honestly I would like to see more offensive line analysis.   not a lot of websites do it.

we do have an article (I think its called the big fugly's or something)  that comes out once a year, but lots can change between then and the season opening date.

for me when trying to decide between two or three players at RB I use the quality of the O line as the tiebreaker in my rankings.   in the end the player running behind the better line usually gets the better numbers (assuming good health)

 

[cmh6476 1,043]

1 hour ago, Ray_T said:

honestly I would like to see more offensive line analysis.   not a lot of websites do it.

we do have an article (I think its called the big fugly's or something)  that comes out once a year, but lots can change between then and the season opening date.

for me when trying to decide between two or three players at RB I use the quality of the O line as the tiebreaker in my rankings.   in the end the player running behind the better line usually gets the better numbers (assuming good health)

 

I completely agree.  And here I feel pretty good about the GB feedback and I'm assuming by this point most would trust my judgment about the Chiefs more than others.  But you still aren't getting others to chime in, and maybe it's because they just don't follow a certain team enough to care

Depth is also important, as is who is lining up at TE when it comes to run game efficiency.  And you don't get that insight per se you bought a $7.99 magazine at Walmart.

But in knowing whether the Chiefs line is good or not, it doesn't change much where people will value their offensive skill players.  It might have you bump Mahomes up above another guy or two you see him on the same page as, but that's about it.  You sort of can expect what you'll get out of Pacheco and Brashard Smith, Kelce is going to get you what he's been averaging until he hits the cliff, and Rice, Worthy, Brown, JuJu and another guy are pretty easy to project because they spread the ball around so much and have clearer ceilings.

But for teams you try to evaluate like the Panthers, or Browns, or Titans where you are looking for a single receiver to elevate above similar players he is being drafted against, a more solid line giving that QB a little more time to make a read and throw would give me reason to bump a guy up a bit.

[Ray_T 761]

56 minutes ago, cmh6476 said:

I completely agree.  And here I feel pretty good about the GB feedback and I'm assuming by this point most would trust my judgment about the Chiefs more than others.  But you still aren't getting others to chime in, and maybe it's because they just don't follow a certain team enough to care

Depth is also important, as is who is lining up at TE when it comes to run game efficiency.  And you don't get that insight per se you bought a $7.99 magazine at Walmart.

But in knowing whether the Chiefs line is good or not, it doesn't change much where people will value their offensive skill players.  It might have you bump Mahomes up above another guy or two you see him on the same page as, but that's about it.  You sort of can expect what you'll get out of Pacheco and Brashard Smith, Kelce is going to get you what he's been averaging until he hits the cliff, and Rice, Worthy, Brown, JuJu and another guy are pretty easy to project because they spread the ball around so much and have clearer ceilings.

But for teams you try to evaluate like the Panthers, or Browns, or Titans where you are looking for a single receiver to elevate above similar players he is being drafted against, a more solid line giving that QB a little more time to make a read and throw would give me reason to bump a guy up a bit.

it is hard getting people to talk about this.  very few websites have good info and a lot of people just dont know.   as such, they wont comment much on material they admittedly know less about.

but a case where knowledge on the line  helped me was the Philly situation.   they had a 1200 yard rusher who was a JAG(miles sanders) 2 years prior to Sequons arrival.  and then they had a 1000 yard rusher in swift with limited carries.

sequon coming from one of the worst lines in football was in that ballpark in new york.  it seemed like a no brainer that he would explode in philly.   but thats due to O line analysis.    That gave me the knowledge that .... hey this move is gonna be good for Sequon.     and I picked him in all the drafts where I was able.