Voltaire 5,449 Posted Tuesday at 10:06 AM 1) Green Bay Packers 3-1-1 4 2) Detroit Lions 4-2 1 3) Buffalo Bills 4-2 3 4) Los Angeles Rams 4-2 7 5) Tampa Bay Buccaneers 5-1 11 6) Philadelphia Eagles 4-2 2 7) Seattle Seahawks 4-2 12 8 ) Kansas City Chiefs 3-3 14 9) Indianapolis Colts 5-1 9 10) Washington 3-3 6 11) Pittsburgh Steelers 4-1 15 12) San Francisco 49ers 4-2 5 13) Atlanta Falcons 3-2 21 14) Jacksonville Jaguars 4-2 8 15) New England Patriots 4-2 16 16) Chicago Bears 3-2 18 17) Minnesota Vikings 3-2 17 18) Denver Broncos 4-2 10 19) Los Angeles Chargers 4-2 13 20) Houston Texans 2-3 19 21) New York Giants 2-4 26 22) Carolina Panthers 3-3 24 23) Dallas Cowboys 2-3-1 20 24) Arizona Cardinals 2-4 25 25) Baltimore Ravens 1-5 22 26) Cleveland Browns 1-5 23 27) Las Vegas Raiders 2-4 27 28) Miami Dolphins 1-5 29 29) New Orleans Saints 1-5 30 30) Cincinnati Bengals 2-3 28 31) Tennessee Titans 1-5 32 32) New York Jets 0-6 31 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,941 Posted Tuesday at 10:53 AM KC would beat any of these teams on a neutral field. I see my Packers are #1. But I never understood the idea of power rankings. Like is KC 8th because they are 3-3? Then if record matters why are 5-1 Colts behind them? Tampa 5-1 is 5th? Id maybe put them 1st. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,508 Posted Tuesday at 01:47 PM 1st place chargers are 19?? and the packers are no 1??? Wtf buccs should be 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,097 Posted Tuesday at 01:48 PM 2 hours ago, listen2me 23 said: KC would beat any of these teams on a neutral field. I see my Packers are #1. But I never understood the idea of power rankings. Like is KC 8th because they are 3-3? Then if record matters why are 5-1 Colts behind them? Tampa 5-1 is 5th? Id maybe put them 1st. *could beat any of those teams on a neutral field I think a lot of people are really just ready for someone else to be the team to beat in the league. But KC is starting to show, at least to me, it's still them. It's way too early to really give much cred to an exercise like this, but Detroit by no means looked like the No. 2 team in the league on Sunday. I could see merit to giving TB the #1 ranking for now. But you definitely have some teams trending up (KC being one of those) and some teams trending down, like Detroit and Buffalo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeMatt 301 Posted Tuesday at 02:55 PM Weird to not see Giants at bottom of list. At least theres that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 675 Posted Tuesday at 03:14 PM The Bucs have done amazingly well considering all the injuries we have. #1 RB out. #1,2,3 and 4 WR out. Starting guard and tackle out. Defense is going through the same thing. Hopefully we get healthy for the end of the season push and playoffs. I expect us to lose some games in the upcoming stretch. @Detroit. @ New Orleans. New England. @Buffalo. @Rams. But after that we could sweep the rest. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,097 Posted Tuesday at 03:15 PM there's more riding on this list than Volty's: https://www.espn.com/espn/betting/story/_/id/43748901/super-bowl-2026-odds-win-nfl-betting ESPN Oct 13, 2025, 04:25 PM ET NFL 2025 championship odds Team Super Bowl Conference Division Wins (O/U) Playoffs (Y/N) Buffalo Bills +600 +300 -225 11.5 (-155 O, +135 U) (-1800 | +900) Kansas City Chiefs +600 +300 +130 -- (-360 | +280) Green Bay Packers +700 +350 -120 11.5 (+110 O, -130 U) (-650 | +425) Detroit Lions +750 +425 +175 11.5 (+120 O, -140 U) (-340 | +270) Philadelphia Eagles 10-1 +550 -175 10.5 (-110 O, -110 U) (-300 | +250) Los Angeles Rams 15-1 +750 +150 10.5 (-150 O, +130 U) (-260 | +215) Los Angeles Chargers 16-1 +750 +185 10.5 (+110 O, -130 U) (-400 | +300) Tampa Bay Buccaneers 18-1 +750 -425 11.5 (-120 O, +100 U) (-1000 | +600) Indianapolis Colts 18-1 +800 -145 10.5 (-150 O, +130 U) (-650 | +425) Denver Broncos 18-1 +800 +260 10.5 (+110 O, -130 U) (-250 | +210) Washington Commanders 18-1 10-1 +250 8.5 (-125 O, +105 U) (+155 | -185) Baltimore Ravens 20-1 11-1 +160 8.5 (-135 O, +115 U) (+100 | -120) San Francisco 49ers 22-1 12-1 +150 10.5 (-150 O, +130 U) (-290 | +240) Pittsburgh Steelers 25-1 15-1 -160 9.5 (-130 O, +110 U) (-275 | +225) Seattle Seahawks 30-1 12-1 +275 10.5 (+140 O, -165 U) (-150 | +130) Jacksonville Jaguars 30-1 16-1 +200 10.5 (+120 O, -140 U) (-240 | +200) New England Patriots 35-1 20-1 +185 10.5 (+105 O, -125 U) (-260 | +215) Houston Texans 35-1 20-1 +600 7.5 (-150 O, +130 U) (+170 | -200) Minnesota Vikings 50-1 30-1 11-1 8.5 (+130 O, -150 U) (+240 | -290) Atlanta Falcons 60-1 25-1 +400 9.5 (+105 O, -125 U) (-120 | +100) Chicago Bears 60-1 25-1 10-1 8.5 (+105 O, -125 U) (+250 | -300) Dallas Cowboys 100-1 50-1 +650 6.5 (-145 O, +125 U) (+400 | -600) Arizona Cardinals 150-1 100-1 60-1 6.5 (+105 O, -125 U) (10-1 | -2000) Cincinnati Bengals 250-1 150-1 16-1 5.5 (-165 O, +140 U) (11-1 | -2500) Cleveland Browns 300-1 150-1 50-1 5.5 (-105 O, -115 U) (20-1 | -7500) New York Giants 300-1 200-1 40-1 5.5 (+100 O, -120 U) (15-1 | -5000) New York Jets 300-1 250-1 200-1 4.5 (+135 O, -155 U) (35-1 | -50000) Carolina Panthers 400-1 100-1 18-1 6.5 (+105 O, -125 U) (+900 | -1800) New Orleans Saints 400-1 100-1 60-1 4.5 (-110 O, -110 U) (35-1 | -50000) Miami Dolphins 400-1 150-1 200-1 4.5 (-165 O, +140 U) (35-1 | -50000) Las Vegas Raiders 500-1 150-1 100-1 5.5 (-110 O, -110 U) (15-1 | -5000) Tennessee Titans 500-1 250-1 250-1 3.5 (-110 O, -110 U) (35-1 | -50000) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,649 Posted Tuesday at 03:27 PM 11 minutes ago, cmh6476 said: there's more riding on this list than Volty's: https://www.espn.com/espn/betting/story/_/id/43748901/super-bowl-2026-odds-win-nfl-betting ESPN Oct 13, 2025, 04:25 PM ET NFL 2025 championship odds Team Super Bowl Conference Division Wins (O/U) Playoffs (Y/N) Buffalo Bills +600 +300 -225 11.5 (-155 O, +135 U) (-1800 | +900) Kansas City Chiefs +600 +300 +130 -- (-360 | +280) Green Bay Packers +700 +350 -120 11.5 (+110 O, -130 U) (-650 | +425) Detroit Lions +750 +425 +175 11.5 (+120 O, -140 U) (-340 | +270) Philadelphia Eagles 10-1 +550 -175 10.5 (-110 O, -110 U) (-300 | +250) Los Angeles Rams 15-1 +750 +150 10.5 (-150 O, +130 U) (-260 | +215) Los Angeles Chargers 16-1 +750 +185 10.5 (+110 O, -130 U) (-400 | +300) Tampa Bay Buccaneers 18-1 +750 -425 11.5 (-120 O, +100 U) (-1000 | +600) Indianapolis Colts 18-1 +800 -145 10.5 (-150 O, +130 U) (-650 | +425) Denver Broncos 18-1 +800 +260 10.5 (+110 O, -130 U) (-250 | +210) Washington Commanders 18-1 10-1 +250 8.5 (-125 O, +105 U) (+155 | -185) Baltimore Ravens 20-1 11-1 +160 8.5 (-135 O, +115 U) (+100 | -120) San Francisco 49ers 22-1 12-1 +150 10.5 (-150 O, +130 U) (-290 | +240) Pittsburgh Steelers 25-1 15-1 -160 9.5 (-130 O, +110 U) (-275 | +225) Seattle Seahawks 30-1 12-1 +275 10.5 (+140 O, -165 U) (-150 | +130) Jacksonville Jaguars 30-1 16-1 +200 10.5 (+120 O, -140 U) (-240 | +200) New England Patriots 35-1 20-1 +185 10.5 (+105 O, -125 U) (-260 | +215) Houston Texans 35-1 20-1 +600 7.5 (-150 O, +130 U) (+170 | -200) Minnesota Vikings 50-1 30-1 11-1 8.5 (+130 O, -150 U) (+240 | -290) Atlanta Falcons 60-1 25-1 +400 9.5 (+105 O, -125 U) (-120 | +100) Chicago Bears 60-1 25-1 10-1 8.5 (+105 O, -125 U) (+250 | -300) Dallas Cowboys 100-1 50-1 +650 6.5 (-145 O, +125 U) (+400 | -600) Arizona Cardinals 150-1 100-1 60-1 6.5 (+105 O, -125 U) (10-1 | -2000) Cincinnati Bengals 250-1 150-1 16-1 5.5 (-165 O, +140 U) (11-1 | -2500) Cleveland Browns 300-1 150-1 50-1 5.5 (-105 O, -115 U) (20-1 | -7500) New York Giants 300-1 200-1 40-1 5.5 (+100 O, -120 U) (15-1 | -5000) New York Jets 300-1 250-1 200-1 4.5 (+135 O, -155 U) (35-1 | -50000) Carolina Panthers 400-1 100-1 18-1 6.5 (+105 O, -125 U) (+900 | -1800) New Orleans Saints 400-1 100-1 60-1 4.5 (-110 O, -110 U) (35-1 | -50000) Miami Dolphins 400-1 150-1 200-1 4.5 (-165 O, +140 U) (35-1 | -50000) Las Vegas Raiders 500-1 150-1 100-1 5.5 (-110 O, -110 U) (15-1 | -5000) Tennessee Titans 500-1 250-1 250-1 3.5 (-110 O, -110 U) (35-1 | -50000) If I were a gambling man, I'd drop a Ulysses S. Grant on the Bucs to win the chip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,284 Posted Tuesday at 04:35 PM Steelers 25-1 , looks good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeMatt 301 Posted Tuesday at 05:32 PM 2 hours ago, cmh6476 said: there's more riding on this list than Volty's: https://www.espn.com/espn/betting/story/_/id/43748901/super-bowl-2026-odds-win-nfl-betting ESPN Oct 13, 2025, 04:25 PM ET NFL 2025 championship odds Team Super Bowl Conference Division Wins (O/U) Playoffs (Y/N) Buffalo Bills +600 +300 -225 11.5 (-155 O, +135 U) (-1800 | +900) Kansas City Chiefs +600 +300 +130 -- (-360 | +280) Green Bay Packers +700 +350 -120 11.5 (+110 O, -130 U) (-650 | +425) Detroit Lions +750 +425 +175 11.5 (+120 O, -140 U) (-340 | +270) Philadelphia Eagles 10-1 +550 -175 10.5 (-110 O, -110 U) (-300 | +250) Los Angeles Rams 15-1 +750 +150 10.5 (-150 O, +130 U) (-260 | +215) Los Angeles Chargers 16-1 +750 +185 10.5 (+110 O, -130 U) (-400 | +300) Tampa Bay Buccaneers 18-1 +750 -425 11.5 (-120 O, +100 U) (-1000 | +600) Indianapolis Colts 18-1 +800 -145 10.5 (-150 O, +130 U) (-650 | +425) Denver Broncos 18-1 +800 +260 10.5 (+110 O, -130 U) (-250 | +210) Washington Commanders 18-1 10-1 +250 8.5 (-125 O, +105 U) (+155 | -185) Baltimore Ravens 20-1 11-1 +160 8.5 (-135 O, +115 U) (+100 | -120) San Francisco 49ers 22-1 12-1 +150 10.5 (-150 O, +130 U) (-290 | +240) Pittsburgh Steelers 25-1 15-1 -160 9.5 (-130 O, +110 U) (-275 | +225) Seattle Seahawks 30-1 12-1 +275 10.5 (+140 O, -165 U) (-150 | +130) Jacksonville Jaguars 30-1 16-1 +200 10.5 (+120 O, -140 U) (-240 | +200) New England Patriots 35-1 20-1 +185 10.5 (+105 O, -125 U) (-260 | +215) Houston Texans 35-1 20-1 +600 7.5 (-150 O, +130 U) (+170 | -200) Minnesota Vikings 50-1 30-1 11-1 8.5 (+130 O, -150 U) (+240 | -290) Atlanta Falcons 60-1 25-1 +400 9.5 (+105 O, -125 U) (-120 | +100) Chicago Bears 60-1 25-1 10-1 8.5 (+105 O, -125 U) (+250 | -300) Dallas Cowboys 100-1 50-1 +650 6.5 (-145 O, +125 U) (+400 | -600) Arizona Cardinals 150-1 100-1 60-1 6.5 (+105 O, -125 U) (10-1 | -2000) Cincinnati Bengals 250-1 150-1 16-1 5.5 (-165 O, +140 U) (11-1 | -2500) Cleveland Browns 300-1 150-1 50-1 5.5 (-105 O, -115 U) (20-1 | -7500) New York Giants 300-1 200-1 40-1 5.5 (+100 O, -120 U) (15-1 | -5000) New York Jets 300-1 250-1 200-1 4.5 (+135 O, -155 U) (35-1 | -50000) Carolina Panthers 400-1 100-1 18-1 6.5 (+105 O, -125 U) (+900 | -1800) New Orleans Saints 400-1 100-1 60-1 4.5 (-110 O, -110 U) (35-1 | -50000) Miami Dolphins 400-1 150-1 200-1 4.5 (-165 O, +140 U) (35-1 | -50000) Las Vegas Raiders 500-1 150-1 100-1 5.5 (-110 O, -110 U) (15-1 | -5000) Tennessee Titans 500-1 250-1 250-1 3.5 (-110 O, -110 U) (35-1 | -50000) Start your own gambling thread. Leave Voltys power rankings thread the way he meant it to be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,097 Posted Tuesday at 06:08 PM 35 minutes ago, MikeMatt said: Start your own gambling thread. Leave Voltys power rankings thread the way he meant it to be. With lion bias Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeMatt 301 Posted Tuesday at 06:18 PM 10 minutes ago, cmh6476 said: With lion bias Ha. I didn’t read it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,449 Posted yesterday at 03:31 AM 16 hours ago, listen2me 23 said: KC would beat any of these teams on a neutral field. I see my Packers are #1. But I never understood the idea of power rankings. Like is KC 8th because they are 3-3? Then if record matters why are 5-1 Colts behind them? Tampa 5-1 is 5th? Id maybe put them 1st. Any team in the top 15 would be 5-1 with the Colts cupcake schedule. Its like being impressed by Andy Kaufmann's W/L record in pro wrestling. Give the Colts the KC Chiefs schedule and see what happens. The Colts won a coin flip with Denver and -give them the seven points they should have gotten vs the Rams but didn't due to the dumbest fumble in NFL history - and that game would have been a coin flip too. The rest of the teams they beat don't move the dial upwards. For the Colts to feel like they've arrived, they need a signature win. Tampa's a good team coming off a couple of impressive wins and doing it with many injuries. There's also no shame in losing to Philly. Maybe I was unfair to them. I'd not been terribly impressed coming into the season and some of that bias may still be there. On the other end of that, there are also probably more cracks in Philly and Buffalo than I care to notice because until this week they'd been able to buff them out decently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,097 Posted yesterday at 03:44 AM Lions/Bucs on MNF will be a good test for both those teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,941 Posted 20 hours ago 6 hours ago, Voltaire said: Any team in the top 15 would be 5-1 with the Colts cupcake schedule. Its like being impressed by Andy Kaufmann's W/L record in pro wrestling. Give the Colts the KC Chiefs schedule and see what happens. The Colts won a coin flip with Denver and -give them the seven points they should have gotten vs the Rams but didn't due to the dumbest fumble in NFL history - and that game would have been a coin flip too. The rest of the teams they beat don't move the dial upwards. For the Colts to feel like they've arrived, they need a signature win. Tampa's a good team coming off a couple of impressive wins and doing it with many injuries. There's also no shame in losing to Philly. Maybe I was unfair to them. I'd not been terribly impressed coming into the season and some of that bias may still be there. On the other end of that, there are also probably more cracks in Philly and Buffalo than I care to notice because until this week they'd been able to buff them out decently. Colts also have highest point differential, so taking care of those teams. Lions have 1 good win, maybe, the Ravens who have 1 win themselves, whose defense looked terrible until last week. Lions lost to the 2 good teams they have played. Sorta handled in both actually. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,941 Posted 20 hours ago Using current records Lions 4 wins. The average record of teams they have beat sits at 1.75 wins per team. Colts 5 wins. The average record of teams they have beat sits at 2 wins per team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dain11279 980 Posted 13 hours ago I'm not in the "sky is falling" group like a lot of people are around here but I can assure you that Buffalo is not the 3rd best team in the league currently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites