MLB offseason thread

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For those of you that know MLB and players, question. Is Willy Adames good enough to play at a high level for most of the rest of his career to make the HOF? Is he on a path to the HOF?

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11 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

For those of you that know MLB and players, question. Is Willy Adames good enough to play at a high level for most of the rest of his career to make the HOF? Is he on a path to the HOF?

Holy hell…

ROFL

He will get to the Hall if he uses Waze…

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22 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

For those of you that know MLB and players, question. Is Willy Adames good enough to play at a high level for most of the rest of his career to make the HOF? Is he on a path to the HOF?

He’s 30 years old with 180 HR’s and 1 100 rbi season and mostly average stats for the rest. I don’t think so. 

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OK, haha, thanks.

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14 hours ago, cmh6476 said:

Manfred done at the end of this contract. Can the damage be undone

Too bad he has until 2029...  He can f*ck up the entity that is MLB even more than he already has...

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On 1/8/2026 at 10:30 AM, edjr said:

Bregman and Bo Biscuit looking for too much? Why have they not been signed

If they have Boras for an agent, they'll sign in February before Spring Training.  Boras wants as many of his guys, as he can, on the market when almost no one is left so that the supply would be low and demand be high.

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On 12/5/2025 at 8:24 PM, Mr Fantasy said:

I don’t see how he doesn’t get 400 ABs at minimum next season unless he’s a total bust. Although knowing this organization they will sign an Alex Verdugo type 

Based on what's happened with the Pirates this offseason, I'm thinking Garcia starts the year in AAA and is there until at least June or July, unless one of two things happen...

1) A couple guys are hurt at the same time
2) He's killing it in Indianapolis.

If I were a gambling man, I'd bet on under 150 PA's this season.

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15 hours ago, cmh6476 said:

@posty is gonna love some of this...

Manfred vision for realignment would not pit teams in same market in same grouping (Mets/ Yankees, Cubs/ White Sox, Dodgers/ Angels)

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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48 minutes ago, posty said:

Too bad he has until 2029...  He can f*ck up the entity that is MLB even more than he already has...

I'll be curious to see how he and the players, handle the CBA.  I think the players are stupid and are going to force a lockout.  Manfred is right about very few things... a cap system he's right about.  I'll be interested to see if and how he pushes it and how the players respond.

Salary cap systems are better for the players than no system, but I don't think the MLBPA are smart enough to know that.

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Just now, TBayXXXVII said:

I'll be curious to see how he and the players, handle the CBA.  I think the players are stupid and are going to force a lockout.  Manfred is right about very few things... a cap system he's right about.  I'll be interested to see if and how he pushes it and how the players respond.

Actually I am hoping for a long lockout after this season, but something does need to be done to try to get smaller markets involved better...

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12 minutes ago, posty said:

Actually I am hoping for a long lockout after this season, but something does need to be done to try to get smaller markets involved better...

The league never recovered from the last one and it's in their best interest to not repeat that mistake.  If they do that now, there's way too many other options for kids to go in than there was back in the 90's.  Plus, people have less disposable income and pissing fans off will certainly lose fans.  They need to not have a lockout. 

They definitely need a cap and floor with better revenue sharing.  The small market teams generate about 20 to 30% of their operating costs from the local TV deals, and there's a real problem there.  Now, FanDuel Sports is defaulting on their TV deals with teams.  That's a problem the owners need to fix and that's where the revenue sharing needs to be addressed.

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15 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Based on what's happened with the Pirates this offseason, I'm thinking Garcia starts the year in AAA and is there until at least June or July, unless one of two things happen...

1) A couple guys are hurt at the same time
2) He's killing it in Indianapolis.

If I were a gambling man, I'd bet on under 150 PA's this season.

Roster resource currently has him on the mlb roster , on their bench. I don’t see that to start the season. I’m curious how serious they are about pushing Konnor Griffin . Should be an interesting spring training 

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2 hours ago, HellToupee said:

Roster resource currently has him on the mlb roster , on their bench. I don’t see that to start the season. I’m curious how serious they are about pushing Konnor Griffin . Should be an interesting spring training 

From a top 26 perspective, right now, he's there.  The issue is that the Pirates aren't going to want him to ride the pine, they're going to want him to get AB's.  Hitting HR's with a .270 average in AAA is good, the problem is he strikes out too much and doesn't walk enough.  He's not going hit HR's like that in the majors, plus he's going to strike out more and walk less.

I won't have a handle on how they're going to handle Griffin until after the business season.  If they sign Eugenio, they're likely to be content with Triolo at SS for a good while.  Triolo is an elite defender and if he's a competent hitter like he was at the end of the season, then the offensive production of the team will dictate how long Griffin is in AAA.  I think they're hope is that they can hold out for him to get Super 2 status.  If they're smart (which we know they aren't), they offer Griffin a 10+ year / $150M+ contract now.

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Alex Bergman to the Cubs

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2025: 
— Red Sox sign Alex Bregman without telling Rafael Devers
— Devers gets upset
— Both parties hate each other
— Red Sox trade Devers 
— Red Sox don’t extend Bregman

2026:
— No Bregman
— No Devers

Masterclass plan, Craig Breslow.
 

 

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Calling it now...

• Konnor Griffin's floor = Bobby Witt Jr. ceiling.  Konnor Griffin's ceiling = GOAT
• Pirates will make the playoffs, shot at W.S. run.

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51 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Calling it now...

• Konnor Griffin's floor = Bobby Witt Jr. ceiling.  Konnor Griffin's ceiling = GOAT
• Pirates will make the playoffs, shot at W.S. run.

Bobby Witt Jr.'s ceiling = Honus Wagner status

HTH

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1 hour ago, cmh6476 said:

Bobby Witt Jr.'s ceiling = Honus Wagner status

HTH

...and?  

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Royals moving in the fences

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That's just dumb...  Better have pitching that can keep the ball down...

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1 minute ago, posty said:

That's just dumb...  Better have pitching that can keep the ball down...

I think the thought is to see how it plays over the next five years to have league average dimensions as they plan to build their new stadium

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4 hours ago, posty said:

That's just dumb...  Better have pitching that can keep the ball down...

You might be the only person here who might care enough to watch this, but i found it interesting. 

right up my sons alley as he wants to go into statistics and data for the Royals. 

 

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On 1/12/2026 at 11:39 AM, TBayXXXVII said:

Calling it now...

• Konnor Griffin's floor = Bobby Witt Jr. ceiling.  Konnor Griffin's ceiling = GOAT
• Pirates will make the playoffs, shot at W.S. run.

Rescinding second one.  Sounds like the Buccos are done adding offense that'll actually help.  I think 80 to 85 is the best case scenario.  That might be in the argument for a WC spot, but may not be good enough.

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22 hours ago, posty said:

That's just dumb...  Better have pitching that can keep the ball down...

 

22 hours ago, cmh6476 said:

I think the thought is to see how it plays over the next five years to have league average dimensions as they plan to build their new stadium

I'm in agreement with posty, even if the idea is as you say.  Reason being, that data's already available.  They can literally look up other stadiums dimensions and see how many home runs are being hit.  They can even look up how far each HR was it in each direction.

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33 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

 

I'm in agreement with posty, even if the idea is as you say.  Reason being, that data's already available.  They can literally look up other stadiums dimensions and see how many home runs are being hit.  They can even look up how far each HR was it in each direction.

The royals have done a lot more research than that.   You should check out the video i posted. 

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Vinny Pasquantino all-star berth incoming 

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I found out Jeff Kent made the Hall of Fame on the Contemporary ballot.  While Carlos Delgado, Dale Murphy, Don Mattingly, Bonds, Clemens, and Sheffield all fell short again.

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2026 World Series Odds:

Dodgers 4-1                   Padres 20-1                   Rays 50-1

Yankees 8-1                   Cubs 22-1                      Twins 80-1

Phillies 11-1                   Tigers 25-1                    Cardinals 100-1

Astros 13-1                    Rangers 30-1                 A's 100-1

Mariners 13-1                Injuns 30-1                    Marlins 120-1

Mets 15-1                      Orioles 30-1                   Angels 200-1

Blue Jays 16-1              Reds 35-1                       Pirates 200-1

Braves 16-1                   Royals 40-1                    Natinals 500-1

Red Sox 17-1                 Giants 40-1                   White Sox 500-1

Brewers 20-1                 Diamondbacks 50-1    Rockies 500-1

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1 hour ago, cmh6476 said:

The royals have done a lot more research than that.   You should check out the video i posted. 

Oh, I'm sure they did... and I will watch it when I get the chance.  But that's the point, why bother moving them?  You have the data.  What would be the need to test them?  The only reason I can see as being valid is that you've done the research to the point that you know your pitchers won't be as negatively affected as your hitters being positively affected.  If that's the case, then just come out and say it.  So what?  If they're moving them to match league average, it's not like someone can criticize you for it.   Even still, the opponents are still playing on the same field, it's not like the Royals are getting an advantage.

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1 hour ago, Gepetto said:

I found out Jeff Kent made the Hall of Fame on the Contemporary ballot.  While Carlos Delgado, Dale Murphy, Don Mattingly, Bonds, Clemens, and Sheffield all fell short again.

Bonds and Clemens never will get in.  They're the modern day Pete Rose/Joe Jackson.  I don't think the others belong in.  I think they're close and I think making the argument for them to get in and allowing them in, only lowers the bar for the next group of people to say, "Well, how much different is so and so, from Delgado, Murphy... ".

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2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Bonds and Clemens never will get in.  They're the modern day Pete Rose/Joe Jackson.  I don't think the others belong in.  I think they're close and I think making the argument for them to get in and allowing them in, only lowers the bar for the next group of people to say, "Well, how much different is so and so, from Delgado, Murphy... ".

Every sports HOF should have 1 voting opportunity.  They're either a HOF player or they ain't. WR Art Monk wasn't HOF material the first seven tries, but on that 8th try... suddenly those same stats were HOF worthy!  Ridiculous. 

And I understand excluding players who cheated while they played (Bonds, etc.), but excluding players for stuff they did after they played?  That's insane.  Rose not being in the HOF is absurd. 

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7 minutes ago, GobbleDog said:

Every sports HOF should have 1 voting opportunity.  They're either a HOF player or they ain't. WR Art Monk wasn't HOF material the first seven tries, but on that 8th try... suddenly those same stats were HOF worthy!  Ridiculous. 

And I understand excluding players who cheated while they played (Bonds, etc.), but excluding players for stuff they did after they played?  That's insane.  Rose not being in the HOF is absurd. 

Rose bet on baseball while  manager…. He broke the rules and should never get in…

Plus he is a pedophile…

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1 minute ago, posty said:

Rose bet on baseball while  manager…. He broke the rules and should never get in…

Plus he is a pedophile…

Ya mean, AFTER he played.  So don't vote him in as HOF manager. But a player?  Apparently, the HOF isn't only about stats, but also what kind of person they were while they played and after.  I'm more black and white - just show me the stats.  Otherwise it gets too convoluted.

His stats are HOF worthy, but he did have drunk driving accident years later, though he did seem really sorry about it.  Gee I don't know.

  

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13 minutes ago, GobbleDog said:

Every sports HOF should have 1 voting opportunity.  They're either a HOF player or they ain't. WR Art Monk wasn't HOF material the first seven tries, but on that 8th try... suddenly those same stats were HOF worthy!  Ridiculous. 

And I understand excluding players who cheated while they played (Bonds, etc.), but excluding players for stuff they did after they played?  That's insane.  Rose not being in the HOF is absurd. 

I agree.  But I think the problem is that people are only allowed to vote for a certain amount of players, so they have to create their own heirachy.  Now, if they had a 3-year window, for example to vote for whomever they want, then have move to this 1 opportunity, I'd be ok with that.

Also, I think Rose and Shoeless Joe belong in.  I think Clemens and Bonds belong in.  I also don't have a problem with noting on their plaque, their extracurricular activities.

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4 minutes ago, GobbleDog said:

Ya mean, AFTER he played.  So don't vote him in as HOF manager. But a player?  Apparently, the HOF isn't only about stats, but also what kind of person they were while they played and after.  I'm more black and white - just show me the stats.  Otherwise it gets too convoluted.

His stats are HOF worthy, but he did have drunk driving accident years later, though he did seem really sorry about it.  Gee I don't know.

  

...and even that's subjective (see Ty Cobb).

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46 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Oh, I'm sure they did... and I will watch it when I get the chance.  But that's the point, why bother moving them?  You have the data.  What would be the need to test them?  The only reason I can see as being valid is that you've done the research to the point that you know your pitchers won't be as negatively affected as your hitters being positively affected.  If that's the case, then just come out and say it.  So what?  If they're moving them to match league average, it's not like someone can criticize you for it.   Even still, the opponents are still playing on the same field, it's not like the Royals are getting an advantage.

That's exactly what the get into in the video.   They found batters changing their approach at their home park, and were looking to create an environment in which they would feel they could go with a more comfortable approach in their home park. 

Also I don't care if or when the steroid era players or Pete rose get in

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20 minutes ago, cmh6476 said:

That's exactly what the get into in the video.   They found batters changing their approach at their home park, and were looking to create an environment in which they would feel they could go with a more comfortable approach in their home park. 

Also I don't care if or when the steroid era players or Pete rose get in

Well, I mean, every batter changes their approach to every ballpark.  If that's in the video, then why this post?    I mean, you don't need 5 years to see what happens.  Mainly, because the players you have today, 90% of them won't be there in 5 years. 

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Those Yankees odds are a pipe dream. Mariners or Blue Jays from the AL.

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1 minute ago, Grace Under Pressure said:

Those Yankees odds are a pipe dream. Mariners or Blue Jays from the AL.

I'm guessing they're starting point is that by July, if the Yankees have to buy the AL, they will at least try.  Don't think Seattle will be able to take that approach, come deadline.

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3 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Well, I mean, every batter changes their approach to every ballpark.  If that's in the video, then why this post?    I mean, you don't need 5 years to see what happens.  Mainly, because the players you have today, 90% of them won't be there in 5 years. 

I don't know that i know exactly what you're asking.   But the five years is because I think they'll be in a new park in five years and want actual data to back up their assertions for how they design the new park dimensions.