Can't Afford Health Insurance

[Hardcore troubadour 15,955]

16 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Are you still trying to win an argument that people get preventative MRIs?  Let me just inform you that a routine mammogram is not an MRI.

Good Lord would you just stop already.

Why won’t you just explain it? 

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Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Why won’t you just explain it? 

You know what a mammogram does.  Why do you need me to explain it to you?  Why can't you just act like a sane adult?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,955]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

You know what a mammogram does.  Why do you need me to explain it to you?  Why can't you just act like a sane adult?

It’s often a preventative measure that gives a look inside the body. An MRI does the same thing.  An MRI can also be used as a preventative measure. TDS is detectable by your retarded posts. 

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1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

It’s often a preventative measure that gives a look inside the body. An MRI does the same thing.  An MRI can also be used as a preventative measure. TDS is detectable by your retarded posts. 

MRIs are not recommended for preventative medicine for healthy adults.  Trump did not get a preventative MRI.  Ask any doctor, they will tell you.

There is something wrong with Trump that they are not telling you.

[Maximum Overkill 2,559]

14 minutes ago, MDC said:

Uninsured people and the administrative costs of private / for profit insurance is driving up HC costs. The only long-term option is single payer HC. 

There's a lot of things driving up health care costs. 

Just think of the cost to run these operations

But yes it's a problem. It's not as easy as "let's make it more affordable". How?? 

[Fnord 2,608]

2 hours ago, nobody said:

ObamaCare did exactly what Obama wanted it to do.  And that was to f it up so badly, we have no choice but to go government medical.

No it didn't. Obama made the critical error of attempting to involve the R's in his signature piece of legislation, to which they raised a collective middle finger. In fact, the individual mandate was based on Republican framework created in response to Hillary Clinton's attempts to overhaul healthcare in Clinton's first term. At that time, even Newt Gingrich supported it. 

But then Obama Satan got it pushed through, and suddenly all the R's were allergic to their own plan. 

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20 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

There's a lot of things driving up health care costs. 

Just think of the cost to run these operations

But yes it's a problem. It's not as easy as "let's make it more affordable". How?? 

Single payer HC. The consumer no longer needs to pay for the insurer’s marketing, profit margin, administrative costs etc. Hospitals no longer pass the costs of uninsured ER visits on to the consumer. Medical providers no longer need a fleet of billing specialists to deal with dozens of insurers and all their inconsistent requirements. The government negotiated on prices on behalf of the consumer. And people are no longer stuck in jobs for the sake of maintaining HC. I bet a lot more people would open small businesses if their HC wasn’t tied to their employer.

If there’s another way to lower prices I’m all for it. 
 

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2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Obamacare isn’t Obamas fault.  

Hey FNord, do you tuck your ponytail into your bike helmet or let  it hang out the back? 

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39 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Hey FNord, do you tuck your ponytail into your bike helmet or let  it hang out the back? 

I won’t be able to  unsee this now reading his posts 

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53 minutes ago, Mr Fantasy said:

I won’t be able to  unsee this now reading his posts 

 Having fantasies.  

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1 hour ago, MDC said:

If there’s another way to lower prices I’m all for it. 

Not sure either. Perhaps more options? 

It's going to be a abused regardless, I'm not sure how you combat it. I'm not complaining because mine is paid for 100% but I have Family members who are dealing with it now to. 

For the younger healthier ones, it's probably cheaper out of pocket. 

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1 hour ago, MDC said:

Single payer HC. The consumer no longer needs to pay for the insurer’s marketing, profit margin, administrative costs etc. Hospitals no longer pass the costs of uninsured ER visits on to the consumer. Medical providers no longer need a fleet of billing specialists to deal with dozens of insurers and all their inconsistent requirements. The government negotiated on prices on behalf of the consumer. And people are no longer stuck in jobs for the sake of maintaining HC. I bet a lot more people would open small businesses if their HC wasn’t tied to their employer.

If there’s another way to lower prices I’m all for it. 
 

Another way, is still clean up the fraud, and scams, and the corruption in medical, this would reduce it, no one should spread a couple of days in a hospital bed, for health, issues and have their insurance pay 500 for a plastic bed pan.  Same with government, America doesn’t need a new president, Americans need to have the medical and government drain.  

[Maximum Overkill 2,559]

10 minutes ago, weepaws said:

Americans need to have the medical and government drain.  

The Government can't tell privately run organizations what to charge you dumb Bible Banging Bot. 

 

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13 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

The Government can't tell privately run organizations what to charge you dumb Bible Banging Bot. 

 

He's literally useless.

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Can’t fix the problem with this current government and medical administration in place, that’s why it keeps getting more expensive, the plan.  

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31 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

He's literally useless.

Your mother, what was his name? 

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6 hours ago, nobody said:

ObamaCare did exactly what Obama wanted it to do.  And that was to f it up so badly, we have no choice but to go government medical.

Yea, I agree that was the plan all along.  It literally destroyed private insurance.

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3 hours ago, Fnord said:

No it didn't. Obama made the critical error of attempting to involve the R's in his signature piece of legislation, to which they raised a collective middle finger. In fact, the individual mandate was based on Republican framework created in response to Hillary Clinton's attempts to overhaul healthcare in Clinton's first term. At that time, even Newt Gingrich supported it. 

But then Obama Satan got it pushed through, and suddenly all the R's were allergic to their own plan. 

so your blaming the R's for Obamacare and it's failures?  They didn't need the R's to pass it if I remember correctly/.

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19 hours ago, peenie said:

Georgia ACA cheapest option:

$1035/mo 
$10600 Deductible

 

I think the Republicans will (reluctantly) restore the subsidies in a week or two. They are gonna get hit by a double whammy: Angry constituents and health insurance lobbyists that will lose billions if people drop out of the marketplace.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,955]

4 minutes ago, dogcows said:

I think the Republicans will (reluctantly) restore the subsidies in a week or two. They are gonna get hit by a double whammy: Angry constituents and health insurance lobbyists that will lose billions if people drop out of the marketplace.

The temporary subsidies? That democrats put in place? 

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3 hours ago, weepaws said:

Another way, is still clean up the fraud, and scams, and the corruption in medical, this would reduce it, no one should spread a couple of days in a hospital bed, for health, issues and have their insurance pay 500 for a plastic bed pan.  Same with government, America doesn’t need a new president, Americans need to have the medical and government drain.  

Fraud in Medicare/Medicaid is, about a 5% problem. It is definitely an issue. But that relatively small issue is a red herring for the REAL issue. 

Look at the massive profits of for-profit hospitals, health care networks, drug companies, urgent care outlets, and especially the insurance companies. Every dime of profit is money not going to your actual healthcare.

Capitalism is great for most things. It isn’t good for healthcare. The U.S. is the only country still clinging to this broken system, and it’s dragging the country down.