Are we at war with Venezuela yet?

[Ron_Artest 2,436]

Book it.

Bombing of boats and murdering civilians 

Take over Venezuela air space, cause near collision with commercial jet

Hijack oil tanker

Tell president to leave

Threaten invasion

Blockade of oil tanker

Declaration of fentanyl as a WMD

Declare Venezuela a foreign terrorist org

[Maximum Overkill 2,601]

Hey Stupid, Venezuela will know when we're at War with Venezuela. 

[WhiteWonder 2,995]

 Wake up

 Rush to computer

 Post this 

 

[The Real timschochet 7,552]

Trump is addressing the nation tonight and it may be on this topic. 
 

Forget about what is or what is not “war”. It’s a dumb debate. The real question is this: what’s the goal here? Per the interview with Suzie Wiles (which she has not refuted, only argued that it was selectively edited) the goal is to remove Maduro from power. OK in itself that’s not an unreasonable goal; we can all agree he’s a bad guy. But how far are we willing to go to make this happen? And if it does happen, what then? It was fairly easy to remove Saddam Hussein when we finally decided to do it. But we had no plan for afterwards. 

[TimHauck 3,399]

Remember when the sheep said it wasn’t about the oil?

 

[TimHauck 3,399]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

Declaration of fentanyl as a WMD

 

This one has nothing to do with Venezuela fwiw.  I’m not sure if Trump is aware of that though 

[dogcows 1,219]

Will any Republicans in Congress grow a pair and stop this war?

These politicians ran on lowering prices and ending foreign wars. They’re doing exactly the opposite. It’s been less than a year. Inflation is up, unemployment is up, health insurance costs are doubling (or more), and now we’re going to be at war.

MAGA voters, you’ve been had. We told you.

[Mr Fantasy 152]

24 minutes ago, dogcows said:

health insurance costs are doubling (or more)

What’s this now ? 

[MDC 8,082]

The Peace POTUS  

[Ron_Artest 2,436]

38 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

This one has nothing to do with Venezuela fwiw.  I’m not sure if Trump is aware of that though 

I hear what you're saying, it obviously doesn't, but Trump is using it as a pretext to war.  Same way there is no such thing as a narco-terrorist and blowing up boats doesn't save any American lives.  Everything is a lie.

[Mr Fantasy 152]

If this is about protecting the petrodollar I’m all for it and if you enjoy your lifestyle you should be too. This should trump your TDS if you think logically 

[TimHauck 3,399]

30 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Will any Republicans in Congress grow a pair and stop this war?

These politicians ran on lowering prices and ending foreign wars. They’re doing exactly the opposite. It’s been less than a year. Inflation is up, unemployment is up, health insurance costs are doubling (or more), and now we’re going to be at war.

MAGA voters, you’ve been had. We told you.

It should help gas prices TBH.  But not sure why the admin is pretending it’s about drugs

[Ron_Artest 2,436]

10 minutes ago, Mr Fantasy said:

If this is about protecting the petrodollar I’m all for it and if you enjoy your lifestyle you should be too. This should trump your TDS if you think logically 

There is no logic reason I can support the invasion of a sovereign country to steal their oil.

 

[SaintsInDome2006 771]

You really have to have a Monty Python love of the absurd to appreciate the Git Olympics that Leader Trump requires his followers to engage in. Alleeooop! 

[MDC 8,082]

Less than a year into Trump’s term and the Murica First crowd has already gone full neocon. Once again proving the only MAGA principle is undying loyalty to Daddy.  

[SaintsInDome2006 771]

The demoralization with Iraq & WMD is partly how we got to Trump, but here we go again. God knows where the maga wheel spins after this. 

[TimHauck 3,399]

1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

The demoralization with Iraq & WMD is partly how we got to Trump, but here we go again. God knows where the maga wheel spins after this. 

They even brought back the specific term WMD too!

[Mr Fantasy 152]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

Less than a year into Trump’s term and the Murica First crowd has already gone full neocon. Once again proving the only MAGA principle is undying loyalty to Daddy.  

The thing you fail to understand is the petrodollar is the foundation of our economic dominance. This is a bigger threat to our day to day lives than nazi germany was to us in ww2. The economic ramifications of it being replaced on the world stage would be staggering. This is the definition of America First

[SaintsInDome2006 771]

1 minute ago, Mr Fantasy said:

The thing you fail to understand is the petrodollar is the foundation of our economic dominance. This is a bigger threat to our day to day lives than nazi germany was to us in ww2. The economic ramifications of it being replaced on the world stage would be staggering. This is the definition of America First

Then you picked the wrong horse. Tariffs & bitcoin, & ending USAID & global integration, are driving nations away from the petrodollar.

[edjr 7,031]

2 hours ago, WhiteWonder said:

 Wake up

 Rush to computer

 Post this 

 

[TimHauck 3,399]

7 minutes ago, Mr Fantasy said:

The thing you fail to understand is the petrodollar is the foundation of our economic dominance. This is a bigger threat to our day to day lives than nazi germany was to us in ww2. The economic ramifications of it being replaced on the world stage would be staggering. This is the definition of America First

So it’s not about drugs, correct?

[Mr Fantasy 152]

1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Then you picked the wrong horse. Tariffs & bitcoin, & ending USAID & global integration, are driving nations away from the petrodollar.

Here you are once again led astray by your TDS . Brics 1st conference was in 2009. The whole existence of brics is to end the petrodollar system. It has zero to do with tariffs, usaid etc with anything before Trump was even POTUS. 

[MDC 8,082]

4 minutes ago, Mr Fantasy said:

The thing you fail to understand is the petrodollar is the foundation of our economic dominance. This is a bigger threat to our day to day lives than nazi germany was to us in ww2. The economic ramifications of it being replaced on the world stage would be staggering. This is the definition of America First

And in the early aughts we had to fight them there vs here because WMDs posed an existential threat to our way of life …  

[SaintsInDome2006 771]

War will increase pressure on oil prices & it will create an immigration crisis. Trump’s policies are constantly at odds with supposed maga desires.

[SaintsInDome2006 771]

4 minutes ago, Mr Fantasy said:

Here you are once again led astray by your TDS . Brics 1st conference was in 2009. The whole existence of brics is to end the petrodollar system. It has zero to do with tariffs, usaid etc with anything before Trump was even POTUS. 

I’m not talking about BRICS. I’m saying if you cut loose the dollar with bitcoin & ostracize & antagonize nations they will stop listening to us & aligning with us. This will just hasten the process.

[Mr Fantasy 152]

2 minutes ago, MDC said:

And in the early aughts we had to fight them there vs here because WMDs posed an existential threat to our way of life …  

I agree. They lied .That was then , this is now

[MDC 8,082]

TDS = When you abandon everything you claim to believe at the drop of a hat to support Trump’s latest whim, even if it 100% contradicts what Daddy told you a year ago.

We have a few raging cases at the GC.  

[squistion 2,655]

1 hour ago, Mr Fantasy said:

The thing you fail to understand is the petrodollar is the foundation of our economic dominance. This is a bigger threat to our day to day lives than nazi germany was to us in ww2. The economic ramifications of it being replaced on the world stage would be staggering. This is the definition of America First

Absurd hyperbole. 

[Maximum Overkill 2,601]

51 minutes ago, MDC said:

TDS =

You're really spun out over this aren't you??? 

[Ron_Artest 2,436]

Taking over Venezuela will not do anything to help keep Oil pegged to the dollar.  It will in fact hurt it, as with everything Trump has done so far from tariffs to running up the debt and soon dropping interest rates to nothing.  This will continue to devalue the dollar.

I also mention this a lot, but low oil does not help us, it hurts us.  Below $60/barrel, it's not profitable to drill new wells.  Same with US Shale.  We're currently at $55.

Our current rig count is lower than it was a year ago.

By taking over Venezuela and bringing in US companies, the govt would get a cut, and in turn Trump personally would get a huge cut.

[Maximum Overkill 2,601]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

Taking over Venezuela will not do anything

He's not invading Venezuela, you dope! 

Stop spreading you Libtard Bullshizz! 

[Ron_Artest 2,436]

Just now, Maximum Overkill said:

He's not invading Venezuela, you dope! 

Stop spreading you Libtard Bullshizz! 

What is he doing?  Why is he threatening invasion?

[Maximum Overkill 2,601]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

What is he doing?  Why is he threatening invasion?

Every damn minute with you! 

You're exhausting, almost as bad as Rob Reiner 

[Mr Fantasy 152]

1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said:

He's not invading Venezuela, you dope! 

Stop spreading you Libtard Bullshizz! 

He’s a little slow

[Maximum Overkill 2,601]

Trump approval rating rebounds after second-term low

[Ron_Artest 2,436]

5 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Every damn minute with you! 

You're exhausting, almost as bad as Rob Reiner 

Can't answer the question.

[Ron_Artest 2,436]

5 minutes ago, Mr Fantasy said:

He’s a little slow

You were just defending the invasion to protect the petrodollar

[Maximum Overkill 2,601]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

Can't answer the question.

He's not invading Venezuela you idiot. 

Stop listening to MSNBC, the next thing you know you'll be stabbing your parents. It's bad for you 

[Ron_Artest 2,436]

1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said:

He's not invading Venezuela you idiot. 

Stop listening to MSNBC, the next thing you know you'll be stabbing your parents. It's bad for you 

What is he doing?  Why is he threatening invasion?  Why is he blowing up boats and taken over their airspace?

[Mr Fantasy 152]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

You were just defending the invasion to protect the petrodollar

Invasion? I never mentioned invasion. We wouldn’t have to invade Venezuela to bring them to heel