the architect of obamacare knew how to get the dumb vote

[drobeski 3,061]

GRUBER: "Lack of transparency is a huge political:

[Reality 2,710]

Occasionally liberals let you peek behind the curtains... Scary.

[rholio 339]

Occasionally liberals politicians let you peek behind the curtains... Scary.

Fixed. Oh, wait, you thought only one side pulls stuff like this?

[drobeski 3,061]

Fixed. Oh, wait, you thought only one side pulls stuff like this?

the "hey this makes it OK" argument of every liberal.

Change it up kid.

[rholio 339]

the "hey this makes it OK" argument of every liberal.

Change it up kid.

What argument? Politicians suck. You misspelled libertarian again, too. Spelling isn't exactly your strong point, though, is it?

[Reality 2,710]

Fixed. Oh, wait, you thought only one side pulls stuff like this?

 

Obamacare was much more significant than "stuff"..

 

[NewbieJr 540]

Politicians think of ways to try to get more votes???? Say it ain't so!! Thanks for delivering this scoop to us, Drobs.

[rholio 339]

 

Obamacare was much more significant than "stuff"..

 

 

"Stuff" as in the tactics used...

[Reality 2,710]

 

"Stuff" as in the tactics used...

 

 

the "hey this makes it OK" argument of every liberal.

Change it up kid.

 

Well, what else do they have at this point?

[rholio 339]

 

 

 

Well, what else do they have at this point?

At which point?

 

This should be good...

[Reality 2,710]

At which point?

 

This should be good...

Umm, the point where you feel the need to come in and defend all things Liberalism.. Try to keep up.

 

[drobeski 3,061]

It worked, it got the dumbest of the dumb and the takers to come out and vote in droves.

[rholio 339]

Umm, the point where you feel the need to come in and defend all things Liberalism.. Try to keep up.

 

Nothing I posted defended 'Liberalism'... how did you choose your user name, by the way? Only contact you get with reality?

[Reality 2,710]

Nothing I posted defended 'Liberalism'... how did you choose your user name, by the way? Only contact you get with reality?

 

[Sho Nuff 719]

the "hey this makes it OK" argument of every liberal.

Change it up kid.

 

Where did he say that makes it ok?

And reality thinking that pointing out that both sides do it is defending anything.

 

The point he was making (that is obvious to any thinking person) is that you two bozos don't give a damn that the GOP does the same thing. You just cry like babies when the left is doing it.

 

BTW...he didn't pander to the dumbest of voters or he would have come after the righty hacks like you all.

[Reality 2,710]

 

Where did he say that makes it ok?

And reality thinking that pointing out that both sides do it is defending anything.

 

The point he was making (that is obvious to any thinking person) is that you two bozos don't give a damn that the GOP does the same thing. You just cry like babies when the left is doing it.

 

BTW...he didn't pander to the dumbest of voters or he would have come after the righty hacks like you all.

I'll hold my breath waiting for either of you to rush to the defense of Republicans or Conservatives in similar situations.

 

Of course there isn't much similar to deliberately misleading people on a law as significant as Obamacare.

[rholio 339]

I'll hold my breath waiting for either of you to rush to the defense of Republicans or Conservatives in similar situations.

 

Of course there isn't much similar to deliberately misleading people on a law as significant as Obamacare.

There isn't? Google 'Weapons of mass destruction' sometime...

 

You know, they really aren't that similar, you're right. One killed thousands of Americans, the other tells people they need health insurance.

[Reality 2,710]

There isn't? Google 'Weapons of mass destruction' sometime...

 

You know, they really aren't that similar, you're right. One killed thousands of Americans, the other tells people they need health insurance.

They aren't, considering one had bipartisan support and the other had the exact opposite.

 

[IGotWorms 3,315]

Y'all won the midterms. Decisively. Think maybe you can give it a rest for a few months?

[rholio 339]

They aren't, considering one had bipartisan support and the other had the exact opposite.

 

 

One had bipartisan support once it had enough votes to pass, and no one wanted to go on record as being against it. Revisionist history isn't actually history.

[DankNuggs 305]

Scoring high in the machiavellian test

[Reality 2,710]

 

One had bipartisan support once it had enough votes to pass, and no one wanted to go on record as being against it. Revisionist history isn't actually history.

Thanks for letting me know I was right, I didn't really need your confirmation though.

[Frank M 181]

If this is about a discussion to get the dumb vote, it's incomplete without mentioning the clarion call for the Federal Marriage Amendment in 2004, which rallied conservatives to the polls and which then went promptly nowhere.

[Sho Nuff 719]

I'll hold my breath waiting for either of you to rush to the defense of Republicans or Conservatives in similar situations.

 

Of course there isn't much similar to deliberately misleading people on a law as significant as Obamacare.

 

Ill hold my breath waiting for all the topics started on this board complaining about conservatives.

 

Similar to deliberately misleading people on something significant.

Already forgot about the justification to go to war with Iraq huh?

Holy fock you can't be that dense can you?

[Sho Nuff 719]

They aren't, considering one had bipartisan support and the other had the exact opposite.

 

 

So intentionally using misleading and false intel in order to justify going to war and killing thousands of people and getting US soldiers killed...that is all ok if you have bipartisan support?

 

awesome...

[drobeski 3,061]

 

So intentionally using misleading and false intel in order to justify going to war and killing thousands of people and getting US soldiers killed...that is all ok if you have bipartisan support?

 

awesome...

proof of this intentional misleading you speak of. Preferably them admitting to it, as I have provided.

Thanks

[Mike Honcho 4,035]

proof of this intentional misleading you speak of. Preferably them admitting to it, as I have provided.

Thanks

 

That you would even ask for proof of this shows you are the biggest hack here or the most ignorant person in the country. Either way, you're still an ass.

[Sho Nuff 719]

proof of this intentional misleading you speak of. Preferably them admitting to it, as I have provided.

Thanks

 

Denying this again...pretty sad...and more proof of what a hack you are.

[Reality 2,710]

 

So intentionally using misleading and false intel in order to justify going to war and killing thousands of people and getting US soldiers killed...that is all ok if you have bipartisan support?

 

awesome...

This is such an idiotic response it really doesn't deserve a response but, here goes. Both sides had the same intel, people like you have to ignore that because it doesn't support your agenda. Good or bad it is what we had to go on. We know this because the Democrats under Clinton spent years telling us the same thing.

 

That is not the same as 1 party completely misleading the public and ramming through legislation with no bipartisan support on something as major as restructuring Healthcare.

[Sho Nuff 719]

This is such an idiotic response it really doesn't deserve a response but, here goes. Both sides had the same intel, people like you have to ignore that because it doesn't support your agenda. Good or bad it is what we had to go on. We know this because the Democrats under Clinton spent years telling us the same thing.

 

That is not the same as 1 party completely misleading the public and ramming through legislation with no bipartisan support on something as major as restructuring Healthcare.

 

Where did I ignore it?

Where did I place blame only on one party?

My agenda is to point out that both sides lie and sell BS to uninformed turds like you...and you eat it up.

 

No...its not the same...it worse.

One set of lies cost a lot of lives and crap ton of money to go along with it.

 

Now...cue up some of the usual BS...cry that Im supporting liberals because I can see the BS by both parties...and you only have a problem when the left does it.

[Baker Boy 1,485]

Where did I ignore it?

Where did I place blame only on one party?

My agenda is to point out that both sides lie and sell BS to uninformed turds like you...and you eat it up.

 

No...its not the same...it worse.

One set of lies cost a lot of lives and crap ton of money to go along with it.

 

Now...cue up some of the usual BS...cry that Im supporting liberals because I can see the BS by both parties...and you only have a problem when the left does it.

Link showing that the Reps made up the Intel on Iraq. Something like to OP provided would be great.

[Sho Nuff 719]

Link showing that the Reps made up the Intel on Iraq. Something like to OP provided would be great.

 

So you too are going to play the denial game on the intel?

Intel that was knowingly false...that was sold to the American Public as a reason to go to war?

 

Keep playing the games...but this is common knowledge to anyone not trying to hide from what the government has done.

 

BTW...where did I say reps made it up?

Oops...now...get back in that WMD thread you keep hiding from old man...

[Bert 1,091]

 

Ill hold my breath waiting for all the topics started on this board complaining about conservatives.

 

 

Were you not here 2001 -2008?

[Sho Nuff 719]

Were you not here 2001 -2008?

 

Yes...go back and pull anything up you wish.

You will see me in them defending from the same mindless stuff that the righties are doing now.

I posted links a while back when drobs asked for links of me doing it...hell, even posted one of me defending RP in there.

 

The fact remains...people aren't doing it now.

Just because there is not a Rep in the Oval...doesn't mean that there are not plenty of politicians to complain about.

You just don't see posters on here doing it...unless its the righties complaining about another liberal.

[rholio 339]

Were you not here 2001 -2008?

8yrs of RP crying about Harry Reid and ignoring all things W. Bush... yep.

[Baker Boy 1,485]

So you too are going to play the denial game on the intel?

Intel that was knowingly false...that was sold to the American Public as a reason to go to war?

 

Keep playing the games...but this is common knowledge to anyone not trying to hide from what the government has done.

 

BTW...where did I say reps made it up?

Oops...now...get back in that WMD thread you keep hiding from old man...

Much of the WMD info was gathered under the Clinton Administration. Look it up!

 

The real point is that no Reps voted for ObamaCare while a number of Dems voted for the Iraq war including your hero Hillary Clinton.

[Sho Nuff 719]

Much of the WMD info was gathered under the Clinton Administration. Look it up!

 

The real point is that no Reps voted for ObamaCare while a number of Dems voted for the Iraq war including your hero Hillary Clinton.

 

Great...gathered...then realized much of it was crap.

Again, are you wanting to deny that the Bush Administration sold the public on the war using intel they knew was wrong?

 

How is Hillary my hero?

She is a focking cow...and its sad that she could end up the next president.

Try again...you sure like making things up about me, what I have said, who my heroes are...and so on.

Are you ever right about anything?

[drobeski 3,061]

Since they've now admitted to defrauding the American public ..

A. Can the courts squash the law based on that fact.

 

B. Is fraud a crime, can they be charged ?

[Sho Nuff 719]

Since they've now admitted to defrauding the American public ..

A. Can the courts squash the law based on that fact.

 

B. Is fraud a crime, can they be charged ?

 

What he said is not admitting to defrauding anyone really...so no, they can't squash the law based on your opinion that what he said proves or admits fraud.

Nor is what he said proof of any crime to charge anyone with.

 

You are reaching...and struggling mightily as usual.

[drobeski 3,061]

Off the cuff

 

 

 

 

 

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