Official 2014 "Jimmy Graham Owners Will Get BURNED!" Thread

[GS3K 12]

It's too good not to keep the tradition up. I picked him up in the 10th, last pick in the first round and I was glad to do it.

 

After he dominated the stat sheets last year playing hurt (I drafted him then too) I need some more Graham owners to chime in.

[NEWPOSTERGUY! 266]

- dude got paid, no?

 

fully expect 2014 to be his worst season, by far.

 

AVOID.

[Upper Class Trash 67]

Getting Graham in round one is dependent upon your league roster rules, in terms of if he is worth taking a chance on.

 

This doesn't matter much in a ten team league, but how did you Graham owners fare in 12 and 14 team leagues? I've seen two websites state what I already knew from last season; Graham scores massive points, but the owners aren't celebrating many Championships. I'm sure many will pipe in here about the work league they dominated or the free yahoo league where they smoked everyone, but in looking through the teams on MFL and RtSports, the two largest sites for fantasy football, I can't find a league with over a $50 entry fee that Graham won anyone a title. Considering there are so many leagues you can't possibly review them all, I'm sure I'm missing some....

 

FFtoolbox had a great article yesterday on RB's and their importance, especially in leagues requiring two starters. Those are the league styles at both MFL and RT, so it's no shock a Graham owner isn't going to be as successful there.

 

In a league where you only need to start one RB, I'd take him in round one over the majority of the RB's/WR's. He would likely be my third or fourth overall pick. In a league where you start two running backs, I'll never own him as the price you pay is simply too steep.

 

All that said, I think he will outperform his stats from last season. No Lance Moore or Sproles. Even if Brees would go down, Graham will get his. I didn't like Graham last season and still don't like him in two RB formats. Not at all.

[kobe808lak 7]

Getting Graham in round one is dependent upon your league roster rules, in terms of if he is worth taking a chance on.

 

This doesn't matter much in a ten team league, but how did you Graham owners fare in 12 and 14 team leagues? I've seen two websites state what I already knew from last season; Graham scores massive points, but the owners aren't celebrating many Championships. I'm sure many will pipe in here about the work league they dominated or the free yahoo league where they smoked everyone, but in looking through the teams on MFL and RtSports, the two largest sites for fantasy football, I can't find a league with over a $50 entry fee that Graham won anyone a title. Considering there are so many leagues you can't possibly review them all, I'm sure I'm missing some....

 

FFtoolbox had a great article yesterday on RB's and their importance, especially in leagues requiring two starters. Those are the league styles at both MFL and RT, so it's no shock a Graham owner isn't going to be as successful there.

 

In a league where you only need to start one RB, I'd take him in round one over the majority of the RB's/WR's. He would likely be my third or fourth overall pick. In a league where you start two running backs, I'll never own him as the price you pay is simply too steep.

 

All that said, I think he will outperform his stats from last season. No Lance Moore or Sproles. Even if Brees would go down, Graham will get his. I didn't like Graham last season and still don't like him in two RB formats. Not at all.

 

I drafted Graham last year in my 12 man league. $100/team and I ended up winning it.

The thing with the RBs is they always get hurt and they change drastically from year to year aside from 3-4 sure fire guys.. but even they carry a higher injury risk. Every year there ends up being 3-4 guys you can grab off waivers and start at RB for the year... that is the key to winning your league. Moreno, Stacey, etc..

[stonewall 647]

It's too good not to keep the tradition up. I picked him up in the 10th, last pick in the first round and I was glad to do it.

 

After he dominated the stat sheets last year playing hurt (I drafted him then too) I need some more Graham owners to chime in.

 

You are unwisely testing fate, my friend.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

Shouldn't we just keep the original thread going?

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

In before the

[Djgb13 2,338]

Although graham does out up a lot of point I just can draft a TE in the first. As for the thread. Nice...

[weepaws 2,460]

Good job I like the pick . If I have the last pick in my drafts come this weekend I am looking for him .

[Mack 1 6]

I'd say avoid Graham in the first and target Julius Thomas in the 3rd. A little better value, I think.

 

Like someone else said, it's tough to draft a TE in the 1st.

 

Plus, how many players follow up a career-best season with another one? That'd be the only thing that would justify drafting Graham so high.

[weepaws 2,460]

Will it is tough to draft a TE in the first actually it makes no since , but Graham is not really a TE and everyone knows that . And he gives you a big advantage over any other TE draft and that a big advantage .

[JtmoneyJag 25]

I'd say avoid Graham in the first and target Julius Thomas in the 3rd. A little better value, I think.

 

Like someone else said, it's tough to draft a TE in the 1st.

 

Plus, how many players follow up a career-best season with another one? That'd be the only thing that would justify drafting Graham so high.

I could see Graham doing it only because he had a hurt foot last year and is 100% healthy this year. Also, he is right back to where he left on in the preseason so far.. I'm not a huge fan of drafting him in the 1st (though I get why you would), but he fell to me at 2.04 and couldn't pass him up. I did not plan on taking a TE early, but you have to be flexible in your draft and prepare for all scenarios.

[Connorsdad 38]

Shouldn't we just keep the original thread going?

I knew this was coming at some point ! Lol

[TheUsualSuspect 207]

No Lance Moore... LOL

[montana 89]

Cooks

[GS3K 12]

6'7", 265 pounds, 4.5 forty, 38 inch vertical, main target for a top 3 quarterback.

 

He's like a bigger Calvin Johnson except he gets to overwhelm linebackers and slot corners on a consistent basis and while Calvin might not even be the number one or the number one by a large margin there are only a handful of T.E.s that can approach Graham's production. My week one opponent has Tardmellus Bennett as his T.E., I'm already ahead by a good ten to twenty plus points as far as I'm concerned (P.P.R.).

 

I won the money league I took him in last year too, I think the problem isn't so much taking Graham in the first (or even early) but rather making sure you hit on all of your other picks afterwards.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

Hard to argue with 16 tds out of a non qb player. I dont think last year was his ceiling either. Even in non ppr leagues, tds are king. Any player that gets 16 is going to be one of the top performers. Hell 16 is good enough for the top back in the league, dont see why a TE is different.

[Upper Class Trash 67]

 

I drafted Graham last year in my 12 man league. $100/team and I ended up winning it.

The thing with the RBs is they always get hurt and they change drastically from year to year aside from 3-4 sure fire guys.. but even they carry a higher injury risk. Every year there ends up being 3-4 guys you can grab off waivers and start at RB for the year... that is the key to winning your league. Moreno, Stacey, etc..

The problem with this theory is you have to be a crap team to get those guys on the waiver wire. When Stacey was announced as the starter, it was the team with the first waiver wire pick that got him. Moreno was picked up the weekend before the season in most leagues where he wasn't drafted. People like to point out grabbing RB's on the waiver wire, but unless you have a crap team, you aren't getting those guys. Stacy is a very poor example as nobody, even us in St. Louis, knew he was starting that game until two days prior. He was the 3rd RB on the depth chart, so not like he was a backup people were stashing in case Darryl was injured. It isn't like you could have read something online that gave you any early indication as there wasn't anything available. It was too late for most teams once they picked him up. Great for dynasty, but if your team is already crap by midseason in a redraft, Stacy didn't help you.

 

If you go to Rotoworld and look at the statistical changes from year to year, accounting for the top 20 at each position, WR has had more turnover in the last 5 years than any position. QB's and RB's were almost dead even in the turnover inside the top 12 selections. There were some busts last season, but there is every year at every position. People that drafted Cobb and Crabtree weren't exactly happy either, or those that risked a pick on Blackmon, T. Austin, Chris Givens and a ton of other WR's. Fantasy Football is a mixed bag. There is no sure-fire strategy for winning year in and year out. The only thing you can do is study trends and stats. The stats are incredibly clear that taking a TE in Round One lead to not winning a title more often than not, even if Graham is a Superstar. If you would like to research it yourself, go to MFL or Rtsports and look at the league champions from a year ago in the money leagues. You'll notice Graham is missing on the vast majority of them.