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Musk has a trans kid. What a terrible father.

With more $$$$ it might draw more trans men to compete as women in future events.

@RogerDodger is not openly gay yet. He struggles with coming out. He’s obsessed with the subject of gays and trans, injects it in almost every post he makes. He is very hostile to homosexuality and uses a lot of anti-gay slurs which is always a good tell of an inner struggle. The best thing to do is continue to be kind to him and encourage him to embrace his true self.

I wonder what else is going on in the world once one gets beyond this story, trans kid stories, and the cancellation of Bud Light and Target.

Despite school officials allegedly encouraging protests, the University of Pittsburgh (Pitt) is demanding that conservative students pay over $18,000 in security and damage fees caused by riots surrounding an event featuring Daily Wire host Michael Knowles. ....Alliance Defending Freedom sent a letter Monday to Pitt to inform it that the $18,734 security fee the university charged the Intercollegiate Studies Institute and the university’s College Republicans chapter violated the student groups’ First Amendment rights....“Charging students more than $18,000 to host a campus event is prohibitively expensive speech—not free speech,” said ADF Senior Counsel Philip A. Sechler. ...On April 18, the student groups hosted an event on the topic, “Should Transgenderism Be Regulated by Law?” On March 16, Provost Ann Cudd referred to a recent speech by Knowles as “repugnant” and “hate-filled rhetoric” in a message she sent the Pitt Community. And on April 14, a professor advised her students that “... Theatre Arts department, along with many other departments, students, faculty, and staff at Pitt, strongly condemns this event and has called on the University to cancel Knowles’ appearance due to his history of spreading hate speech and inciting violence against trans people.”...She added, “Unfortunately, it looks as though the event is still scheduled to take place,” and invited students to participate in “several events planned for Tuesday April 18 in response to Knowles’ unwelcome presence on campus.”...After these provocative communications, signs were posted throughout campus calling on students to “Shut Down Michael Knowles” by showing up at Cathedral Lawn on April 18 at 6:45 p.m.—one of the events the professor urged her students to attend.... ....This proximity allowed the mob to throw smoke bombs and other incendiary devices into the crowd, as well as using a road flare to burn an effigy of Knowles. That action prevented the police from keeping the O’Hara Student Center free of threats, and it ultimately caused Pitt police to urge ISI to end the event before it concluded because the situation was “deteriorating.” https://www.tampafp.com/university-demands-students-pay-18000-in-security/

Guys I just checked guess what? HE’S STILL DEAD! I hope the satanic church does one of those pink masses to turn him trans in the afterlife.

Then you aren’t pro -trans. Welcome aboard, bigot.

No one cared about trans until they brought kids into it. You don’t seem to care about kids and think it’s ok for a young kid to have their genitals removed.

Oh brother. Just look at all the trans hate going on in this country right now in this forum, with multiple threads created because you angry white middle-aged knuckleheads feel oh so threatened.

I also completely agree with you on that too. Here's the thing. If DeSantis gets the RNC ticket in 2024, he wins POTUS, and he's made it clear he's going on the full offensive on woke, the DNC, Team Blue HQ, critical race theory, pro trans extremism, energy insecurity, the FBI, the Border Crisis, all of it. The common argument is the GOP needs a "disruptor" And Trump was a great disruptive force in 2015/2016. But now he's also a disruptor to moderates, independents and undecideds too, which can cost Conservatives the 2024 election. Not just POTUS, but all down the ticket. Look at the Mid Terms. Walker and Dr Oz were horrible candidates. But they got there for being friends with Trump. Orange Man Bad energizes the base, but he's a long term liability otherwise. You need someone who doesn't offset his effective traits with many toxic ones too. Because that's what Trump gives you. He riles people up. Which is good for Conservative activism. But also riles many up in the wrong way as well. DeSantis is younger, has less scandal, and is willing to wage the open war on identity politics. He's simply a better choice right now IMHO.

I believe Trump should withdraw because he likely can't beat Biden in a 2.0 rematch in the 2024 general election. Will people hate how much Biden ( and his handlers) have dragged this country into the ground as much as they despise Trump? The majority of voters are "low information voters" Four more years of Biden ( really Neera Tanden running the country day to day at the behest of the DNC's corporate overlords) will absolute decimate the American economy. That will make the US more vulnerable to China and Russia from a national security perspective and raze this nation also with crime, pro trans extremism, energy insecurity, no Border security and just more non stop chaos. I don't want four more years of Trump. I'm tired of his act even though I accept that many of the attacks on him are really open witch hunts. That being said, he does nothing to help himself. Literally nothing to make his situation better. He throws fuel on the fire. I want Trump gone. Because once he's gone, ANYONE ELSE who wins the RNC ticket will win POTUS in 2024. Literally anyone. And once you remove Trump, you take away the one pathetic excuse the radical left and the establishment Democrats keep throwing out over and over again. Once Trump is gone, there is nothing left but the utter stupidity of the policies of Team Blue to wreck this country in the last two and a half years. If Trump runs, he loses the 2024 general, odds on. It's possible he pulls it out, but it's just not likely. But once he loses, all of America loses with him because it's four more years of this Biden/Harris/Tanden sh!tshow. Trump should step down and endorse DeSantis. Then once DeSantis wins, let DeSantis give Trump and his family a full blanket pardon. For everything. ( Do they deserve it? For some things yes, but for other things no) Then DeSantis should make Trump the White House Press Secretary. And let him beat up on Team Blue for 8 years straight. Now that would be a sight to see. Mitch McConnell wants Trump AND Biden out and I don't blame him. This country just can't handle more of EITHER ONE of these idiots. For the sake of America's children, let it be RFK Jr and DeSantis for 2024.

This is timely and if true, quite disturbing. Matt Walsh is reporting that trans healthcare providers are rubber stamping approval letters for conversion surgeries. This would support my hypothesis regarding the lack of rigor used by such entities.

I am specifically advocating for the government NOT to interfere in trans kids’ healthcare decisions. So, it’s a question of people like blue horseshit deciding what doctors can do to your kids, vs freedom from government interference. So much for conservatives wanting less government interference.

mdc is a trans kid. Let's get his opinion.

its sad you support this sh1t https://www.dailywire.com/news/matt-walsh-undercover-investigation-catches-trans-health-care-providers-falsifying-patient-info-to-fast-track-sex-change-surgeries this is the reality a tranny place depends on conversions to make money I dont know how more blatantly clear it can be and if a parent wants to permanently sterilize their kid, that is child abuse

Interesting read on the origin of the trans people and their illness.

Not really. Most are victims of an ideological game. Time will tell that the doctors and trans activists were on the wrong side of this.

A federal judge has ruled that Florida’s government cannot prevent kids from receiving gender-affirming medical care. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-judge-in-florida-blocks-enforcement-of-state-ban-on-gender-affirming-care/ar-AA1cd3NT A big win for trans kids and the parents who support them. From the ruling:

Bud Light boycott is costing sales staff up to $2,000-a-month as sales tanked as much as 60% over the Memorial Day weekend - amid fears 'good people are going to start leaving brand because they aren't making money' Salespeople working for independent wholesalers that distribute Anheuser-Busch products are feeling the pain of the ongoing boycott in their wallets ...Some say they have lost commission because of the drop in sales because of the boycott tied to the partnership with trans Dylan Mulvaney ...Parent company Anheuser-Busch has lost $27 billion in value since the boycott began...Sales of Bud Light have declined for seven consecutive weeks after the product endorsement from the controversial TikToker garnered immediate backlash... ...Incomes have been slashed for the salespeople who work at the roughly 500 independent wholesalers that sell Anheuser-Busch products to restaurants, bars, and grocery stores....Former Anhesuer-Busch InBev - AB's parent company - executive Anson Frericks recently told ABC News the product boycott is undoubtedly bringing about financial pain for the thousands of salespeople who work for wholesalers who depend largely on performance-based compensation....Compensation for salespeople varies across distributors and markets, but according to Frericks, a typical salesperson makes around $60,000 per year, including $20,000 in variable pay, which depends largely on commission.... ...An anonymous supervisor from a Florida-based distributor told the outlet that the average salesperson made about $2,000 less in the month of May than they normally would have over based on figures from the last handful several years. Numbers are suffering primarily due to a decline in Bud Light sales that reached as high as a 60 percent drop off over the week that ended on Memorial Day. ...'This situation has impacted our people and especially our frontline workers: The delivery drivers, sales representatives, our wholesalers, Bud owners and servers...These people are the fabric of our business. They are our neighbors, family members, and friends. They are in every community in America. We've been doing everything we can to support our teams.' ...The campaign was the brainchild of Alissa Heinerscheid, vice president of marketing for Bud Light, who was placed on leave soon after the incident. Her boss, Daniel Blake, Budweiser's group vice president for marketing, was also removed from his role in the backlash.....The data - showing that US sales of Bud Light are dropping by as much as 20 percent each week - is being uniformly viewed by industry experts as a negative trend that may not reverse itself anytime soon...Beer Business Daily editor Harry Schuhmacher told Fox News Digital that the 'whole industry is in shock...Even Bud's competitors aren't really dancing on the grave because they know it could have happened to them.' https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12157745/Bud-Light-boycott-hits-salespeople-cuts-commissions-continue-thanks-disastrous-partnership.html

INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS SAY U.S. HAS RETRIEVED CRAFT OF NON-HUMAN ORIGIN ....A former intelligence official turned whistleblower has given Congress and the Intelligence Community Inspector General extensive classified information about deeply covert programs that he says possess retrieved intact and partially intact craft of non-human origin....The information, he says, has been illegally withheld from Congress, and he filed a complaint alleging that he suffered illegal retaliation for his confidential disclosures, reported here for the first time....Other intelligence officials, both active and retired, with knowledge of these programs through their work in various agencies, have independently provided similar, corroborating information, both on and off the record.... ...In accordance with protocols, Grusch provided the Defense Office of Prepublication and Security Review at the Department of Defense with the information he intended to disclose to us. His on-the-record statements were all “cleared for open publication” on April 4 and 6, 2023, in documents provided to us.... For many decades, the Air Force carried out a disinformation campaign to discredit reported sightings of unexplained objects. Now, with two public hearings and many classified briefings under its belt, Congress is pressing for answers.... ....At the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, Grusch served as a Senior Intelligence Capabilities Integration Officer, cleared at the Top Secret/Secret Compartmented Information level, and was the agency’s Senior Technical Advisor for Unidentified Aerial Phenomena analysis/Trans-Medium Issues. From 2016 to 2021, he served with the National Reconnaissance Office as Senior Intelligence Officer and led the production of the NRO director’s daily briefing. Grusch was a GS-15 civilian, the military equivalent of a Colonel....Grusch has served as an Intelligence Officer for over fourteen years. A veteran of the Air Force, he has numerous awards and decorations for his participation in covert and clandestine operations to advance American security.....According to a 2021 NRO Performance Report, Grusch was an intelligence strategist with multiple responsibilities who “analyzed unidentified aerial phenomena reports” and “boosted congressional leadership Intel gaps [in] understanding.” He was assessed by the reconnaissance office’s Operations Center Deputy Director as an “adept staff officer and strategist” and “total force integrator with innovative solutions and actionable results.”.... ....Grusch prepared many briefs on unidentified aerial phenomena for Congress while in government and helped draft the language on UAP for the FY2023 National Defense Authorization Act, spearheaded by Senators Kirsten Gillibrand and Marco Rubio and signed into law by President Biden in December 2022. The provision states that any person with relevant UAP information can inform Congress without retaliation, regardless of any previous non-disclosure agreements.....Beginning in 2022, Grusch provided Congress with hours of recorded classified information transcribed into hundreds of pages which included specific data about the materials recovery program. Congress has not been provided with any physical materials related to wreckage or other non-human objects..... “His assertion concerning the existence of a terrestrial arms race occurring sub-rosa over the past eighty years focused on reverse engineering technologies of unknown origin is fundamentally correct, as is the indisputable realization that at least some of these technologies of unknown origin derive from non-human intelligence,” said Karl Nell, the retired Army Colonel who worked with Grusch on the UAP Task Force....In a 2022 performance evaluation, Laura A. Potter, Deputy Chief of Staff for Intelligence, Headquarters, Department of the Army, described Nell as “an officer with the strongest possible moral compass.” ...As a result, Grusch suffered months of retaliation and reprisals related to these disclosures beginning in 2021. He asked that details of these reprisals be withheld to protect the integrity of the ongoing investigation....The Intelligence Community Inspector General found his complaint “credible and urgent” in July 2022. According to Grusch, a summary was immediately submitted to the Director of National Intelligence, Avril Haines; the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence; and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence...NASIC, headquartered at Wright Patterson Air Force Base, is the Department of Defense’s primary Air Force source for foreign air and space threat analysis. Its mission is to “discover and characterize air, space, missile, and cyber threats,” according to the agency’s website. “The center’s team of trusted subject matter experts deliver unique collection, exploitation, and analytic capabilities not found elsewhere,” the website states.... ....The National Defense Authorization Act for FY2023 tasked the Secretary of Defense, in consultation with the Director of National Intelligence, with establishing for the first time a secure mechanism for the authorized reporting of sensitive information to defense channels....In addition, the legislation asks for reporting on “material retrieval, material analysis, reverse engineering, research and development” involving unidentified anomalous phenomena currently and going back decades.... “I hope this revelation serves as an ontological shock sociologically and provides a generally uniting issue for nations of the world to re-assess their priorities,” Grusch said. https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-retrieved-non-human-craft/

I do agree that social contagion exists. Look at the haircuts in the 80s. But one other way to look at it? Being something other than heterosexual was taboo for so long that many forced themselves to believe they weren’t. Perhaps heterosexual monogamy was the social contagion for centuries, and people are just now expressing their real selves more often? There was a time not long ago that divorce was considerably more rare. Then, after years of gradual increases, in 10 years … from 1967 to 1977, the divorce rate doubled - thanks to laws allowing no-fault divorce. If one were to look at that chart in 1980, it would have appeared that divorce would double every year and become inevitable for every couple… but it eventually plateaued and divorce actually went down in the past decade. So, I think the answer on LGBTQ is probably a bit of both. In the divorce story, a lot of people probably wanted divorces but couldn’t get one, so there was a flood of them when laws changed. But there were probably a small percentage of people who hadn’t considered divorce but saw what was happening and decided to get one. I don’t doubt there are some people who might “explore their sexuality” now that homosexuality/bisexuality is more acceptable. But I believe the numbers will normalize to something like the 10% that has been estimated for many, many years. As for transgender people, while I suppose some non-trans people might try cross-dressing or experimenting with their identity, I think people who are not actually transgender are highly unlikely to take steps such as hormone therapy or surgery. IMO, it’s just not worth worrying about.

Interestingly, by objective measures I'm somewhat of an expert in systems from a scientific perspective. Which is not to say I've dug into the Maher data, because I haven't. But more importantly, I understand at a high level how systems work, and the numbers and trajectory for the trans stuff here just don't work. I appreciate the acknowledgment of treating people with respect. I would never do otherwise. That doesn't mean I don't object to the systems which enable/create the issues I've described. Do you honestly not see social contagion going on? To me it is obvious to anyone who has or has had teens (particularly girls) that it is happening. But at the end of the day it is my opinion.

Each "elite" trans athlete such as Lia Thomas impacts a large number of biological females. It's not a one to one relationship.

So, having somewhat hijacked @Blue Horseshoe's thread, I want to address part of a post he made on page 5 from Peterson, which highlights some points I've been making: I believe that the APA has absolutely rushed to validate subjective feelings on this subject. The last paragraph is key: I've tried to argue this before -- "trans" these days is very similar to past contagions of anorexia, bulimia, cutting... all real things in their own right, but they were the method du jour of (mostly) confused/hormonal teens to express their displeasure and want for attention. The difference now is that we don't attempt to address that, but rather we embrace and encourage it.

Believe what exactly? The data which shows 20% and growing exponentially? I believe that this is the data people are self-reporting, but I question its accuracy. Where do you think it ends? As for personal experience, my first cousin was gay (died, hence the "was"), and her niece is gay. My daughter was a theater kid in HS and our house was the island of misfit toys for those kids, including one boy who moved in and out of trans depending on how sh1tty his sh1tty home life was at the time. In 1990, one year out of college, a coworker transitioned from male to female, spending a year living and dressing as a female before any medical interventions were performed. In all cases I treated and continue to treat the individuals with the utmost of personal respect. Having three adult children including two daughters who survived through puberty and adolescence, in a time of Tumblr defining what seemed like a gender per day and things like cultural appropriation, to me it is clear that there is a social phenomenon at work.