Rounds 1-4 Discussion

[whoisjgalt 0]

With Tomlinson only 25 (actually, not yet 25), I might as well build a young team. I'm very happy so far.

[OB1 33]

The other Jones was too early, I know. But you can never have too many good backs and J.Jones ought to be a pretty nifty pass catcher.

 

I got the two guys I wanted here. I glad I wasn't tempted to move up. Only one other guy tempted me other than J.Jones - think Ditkafocker.

I would have STILL tried to move into a position to take Julius in the next few picks if possible, so I think you took him at just the right time. You have a stud stable of RBs in a 16 team dynasty league.

 

Congrats to the rest of you numbnuts for allowing Galt to dominate the league after only 33 picks have been made!!

 

[Wilzone 0]

Galt's putting a lot of faith in a couple of rookies. It could work out great or pretty not too great.

[whoisjgalt 0]

Galt's putting a lot of faith in a couple of rookies. It could work out great or pretty not too great.

Galt's thinking big, my frined. It may work out wonderfully, or it may crash and burn. Either I'll be set at RB for years, or I'll have a horrible team forever. Worth the risk, IMO, since the worthwhile RB's will be lacking before long.

[OB1 33]

Galt's putting a lot of faith in a couple of rookies.  It could work out great or pretty not too great.

Well, I might be biased since I landed both of them in LOST and was trying to get at least one of them here, but I think they are both going to be pretty damn good. I think Julius will be a star this year, and Kevin will be a top 10 guy for several years, maybe starting a bit slower than JJ.

 

While everyone else drools over a certian other RB in this draft and his situation, I look at Julius and think he has the ability and circumstance to be this year's breakout star.

 

If nothing else, Galt has chips to play with. Young talented RBs with starting jobs are not usually easy to come by in dynasty leagues of this size.

[JasperisOK 0]

Youth? Boldin has it and he also proved himself with 101 receptions last year. I'd have to say that was a wise pick.

[OB1 33]

Youth? Boldin has it and he also proved himself with 101 receptions last year. I'd have to say that was a wise pick.

That was the next guy on my list.

[JasperisOK 0]

Youth?  Boldin has it and he also proved himself with 101 receptions last year.  I'd have to say that was a wise pick.

That was the next guy on my list.

I liked him alot too, and I figured he would go in the 3rd round. So I took the chance of going with S. Davis at the end of round 2 knowing full well that I also picked very early in round 3.

[grandpahoo 9]

With Tomlinson only 25 (actually, not yet 25), I might as well build a young team. I'm very happy so far.

I cannot focking BELIEVE you got all three of those guys in a 16 team league. Nice work, d!ckhead.

[whoisjgalt 0]

With Tomlinson only 25 (actually, not yet 25), I might as well build a young team.  I'm very happy so far.

I cannot focking BELIEVE you got all three of those guys in a 16 team league. Nice work, d!ckhead.

:ph34r:

[Wilzone 0]

Galt's putting a lot of faith in a couple of rookies.  It could work out great or pretty not too great.

Galt's thinking big, my frined. It may work out wonderfully, or it may crash and burn. Either I'll be set at RB for years, or I'll have a horrible team forever. Worth the risk, IMO, since the worthwhile RB's will be lacking before long.

I think it was definitely worth the risk.

[OB1 33]

Over under on what time windycity decides to join us today?

[Wilzone 0]

Over under on what time windycity decides to join us today?

If his past two picks are any indication, I'd say around 8:00 PM EST.

[Scooby 0]

Galt's putting a lot of faith in a couple of rookies.  It could work out great or pretty not too great.

Galt's thinking big, my frined. It may work out wonderfully, or it may crash and burn. Either I'll be set at RB for years, or I'll have a horrible team forever. Worth the risk, IMO, since the worthwhile RB's will be lacking before long.

I think it was definitely worth the risk.

That is why we should have had a rookie draft seperate....

[Farmer Bernie 0]

Galt's putting a lot of faith in a couple of rookies.  It could work out great or pretty not too great.

Galt's thinking big, my frined. It may work out wonderfully, or it may crash and burn. Either I'll be set at RB for years, or I'll have a horrible team forever. Worth the risk, IMO, since the worthwhile RB's will be lacking before long.

I think it was definitely worth the risk.

That is why we should have had a rookie draft seperate....

Why? You had every chance to get those guys as he did.

 

Just because you happen to like a 30 year old fumble machine better than them is no reason to be bitter.

[Wilzone 0]

That is why we should have had a rookie draft seperate....

What do you mean? Because someone like jgalt would take a chance that could crash and burn or work out wonderfully? That's his prerogative. I say good for him for having the balls to make those picks. Of course he could be laughed at in a few seasons for having 2 of his first 3 picks be guys who haven't played an NFL down yet.

 

Having a separate rookie draft would have been unfair to those who ended up at the tail end of the rookie draft due to some dice roll. At least in this situation if you want a rookie you can go out and get one.

[Scooby 0]

Galt's putting a lot of faith in a couple of rookies.  It could work out great or pretty not too great.

Galt's thinking big, my frined. It may work out wonderfully, or it may crash and burn. Either I'll be set at RB for years, or I'll have a horrible team forever. Worth the risk, IMO, since the worthwhile RB's will be lacking before long.

I think it was definitely worth the risk.

That is why we should have had a rookie draft seperate....

Why? You had every chance to get those guys as he did.

 

Just because you happen to like a 30 year old fumble machine better than them is no reason to be bitter.

The reason I said it was that others were saying we let him get these players and will dominate this 16 team league... Jackass

[Farmer Bernie 0]

Galt's putting a lot of faith in a couple of rookies.  It could work out great or pretty not too great.

Galt's thinking big, my frined. It may work out wonderfully, or it may crash and burn. Either I'll be set at RB for years, or I'll have a horrible team forever. Worth the risk, IMO, since the worthwhile RB's will be lacking before long.

I think it was definitely worth the risk.

That is why we should have had a rookie draft seperate....

Why? You had every chance to get those guys as he did.

 

Just because you happen to like a 30 year old fumble machine better than them is no reason to be bitter.

The reason I said it was that others were saying we let him get these players and will dominate this 16 team league... Jackass

Still bitter

[OB1 33]

The reason I said it was that others were saying we let him get these players and will dominate this 16 team league...  Jackass

YOU did by taking an overrated fumblitis 30 yr old RB!

 

Personally I was targeting the same guys jgalt was and even tried to move around within the draft. I wouldn't have touched Barber in round 2, and certianly not with both of those guys on the board.

 

I'm not complaining that it is unfair, I was just agonizing watching picks like Barber, S.Davis,Coles, and even S.Moss go off the board when those guys were there yet I couldn't get a trade done to take advantage of it. I'm a risk taker, and in a league like this, if I can get young starting RBs with a chance to be studs I do it. Having 2 young stud RBs is like winning the lottery in a 16 team dynasty. (Potentially) having 3 is domination. Now, there are risks, but IMO they are well worth it and frankly i'm surprised others didn't take it, that's all.

 

I wouldn't have two seperate drafts if we could start over again, I just might try even harder to trade to a spot to grab a Jones, or just take Kevin over Harrison and absord the ridicule. :ph34r:

[OB1 33]

Over under on what time windycity decides to join us today?

If his past two picks are any indication, I'd say around 8:00 PM EST.

I'll take the over.

[Orgazmo 2]

Did he say he was visiting NY? Or is he commuting daily from Chicago?!#@@

 

Progress--> <--windycitygone

[Scooby 0]

The reason I said it was that others were saying we let him get these players and will dominate this 16 team league...  Jackass

YOU did by taking an overrated fumblitis 30 yr old RB!

 

Personally I was targeting the same guys jgalt was and even tried to move around within the draft. I wouldn't have touched Barber in round 2, and certianly not with both of those guys on the board.

 

I'm not complaining that it is unfair, I was just agonizing watching picks like Barber, S.Davis,Coles, and even S.Moss go off the board when those guys were there yet I couldn't get a trade done to take advantage of it. I'm a risk taker, and in a league like this, if I can get young starting RBs with a chance to be studs I do it. Having 2 young stud RBs is like winning the lottery in a 16 team dynasty. (Potentially) having 3 is domination. Now, there are risks, but IMO they are well worth it and frankly i'm surprised others didn't take it, that's all.

 

I wouldn't have two seperate drafts if we could start over again, I just might try even harder to trade to a spot to grab a Jones, or just take Kevin over Harrison and absord the ridicule. :ph34r:

But you still need a base team to compete currently and not just in the future

[OB1 33]

But you still need a base team to compete currently and not just in the future

Yes, but these guys have starting jobs THIS year. I'm not saying take a young RB who will sit this year over a 30 year old who will start. These two guys have a chance to be special down the line, and maybe as early as this year. Barber has given us his best, and frankly he doesn't excite me. His receptions make him viable, but i'm willing to bet Julius and Kevin out point him this season, and i'm sure that at least one of them will. Barber will be playing with a rookie QB for at least half the season, and his new coach has stated that his fumbling will not be tolerated. It's not like he is a sure thing this year either.

 

Also, this is a dynasty league (a 16 teamer at that), and Barber will never be a top 5-10 RB again (his brief one year stint is long over). One or both of these guys COULD be a top 5-10 RB for the next few years.

 

I'm just saying, you are building for now, i'm (and apparently galt too) looking for now AND the future. That's why I like one big draft, it allows for different strategies where two drafts allows people to hedge their bets. IMO, two drafts is like Team QB, it takes some skill, luck, and fun out of it.

[whoisjgalt 0]

So, I guess OB1 liked my choices.

 

By my count, there might be about 24 or so RB's who have a chance to avoid RBBC (* perhaps fewer than 24). IMO I was able to get three of them - where the average IAIABOOLBGIAOAL team will have half as many as that. If both pan out, I'll be a playoff calibre team for years to come. If neither, then I'll nab next summer's first pick from Wiljimzone. With 16 teams, it's worth taking a shot at dominance. If it doesn't work out, then start from scratch. I'll still get more value trading away a bust RB pick than I would in trading a bust WR pick (on account of scarcity).

 

(* RBBC at least likely in OAK, DEN, TB, CAR, MIN, CHI, PHI, CLE, ATL)

[Farmer Bernie 0]

So, I guess OB1 liked my choices.

 

By my count, there might be about 24 or so RB's who have a chance to avoid RBBC (* perhaps fewer than 24). IMO I was able to get three of them - where the average IAIABOOLBGIAOAL team will have half as many as that. If both pan out, I'll be a playoff calibre team for years to come. If neither, then I'll nab next summer's first pick from Wiljimzone. With 16 teams, it's worth taking a shot at dominance. If it doesn't work out, then start from scratch. I'll still get more value trading away a bust RB pick than I would in trading a bust WR pick (on account of scarcity).

 

(* RBBC at least likely in OAK, DEN, TB, CAR, MIN, CHI, PHI, CLE, ATL)

I wouldn't rule out the two guys you picked from being in a RBBC situation just yet. Definitely in a better situation than some of the other, but I wouldn't rule it out.

[whoisjgalt 0]

That's why I like one big draft, it allows for different strategies where two drafts allows people to hedge their bets. IMO, two drafts is like Team QB, it takes some skill, luck, and fun out of it.

I'd even go further - two frafts is like having positional frafts - a RB fraft, then a QB fraft, then a WR fraft, then ... If everyone frafts off the same cheatsheet then it's not even worth waiting for the picks - just have the computer make them for us.

 

This way, we have to weigh our options when picking. Do I take S.Davis who is 30 and has Foster eating into his carries, but will score more this year? Or do I think long term and grab talented youth? Based on my first pick (young), I opted for the second option. Also based on the number of teams, I figure playing it safe is not a recipe for success (just for medicrity).

 

But to each his own... That's what makes this interesting and fun, right? At the end of the 3rd year, we'll laugh about how well or how poorly this worked out for me.

[Call me...Tim? 0]

So, I guess OB1 liked my choices.

 

By my count, there might be about 24 or so RB's who have a chance to avoid RBBC (* perhaps fewer than 24). IMO I was able to get three of them - where the average IAIABOOLBGIAOAL team will have half as many as that. If both pan out, I'll be a playoff calibre team for years to come. If neither, then I'll nab next summer's first pick from Wiljimzone. With 16 teams, it's worth taking a shot at dominance. If it doesn't work out, then start from scratch. I'll still get more value trading away a bust RB pick than I would in trading a bust WR pick (on account of scarcity).

 

(* RBBC at least likely in OAK, DEN, TB, CAR, MIN, CHI, PHI, CLE, ATL)

I like them. In fact JJones was one of the people I was targeting for this round. Were they high risk picks? Sure, they are rookies. Was it ballsy and does it have a possible HUGE payoff - yes. I'm really liking this draft because with the flex component, so many people are pursuing alternate straegeries!

[OB1 33]

Also based on the number of teams, I figure playing it safe is not a recipe for success (just for medicrity).

 

But to each his own... That's what makes this interesting and fun, right? At the end of the 3rd year, we'll laugh about how well or how poorly this worked out for me.

I always believe playing ti safe is a recipe for mediocrity.

 

To your second point, you are right, this is what makes it fun. If everyone had the same strategy and was high on the same guys, what fun would that be?

 

 

I'd be pissed off at 15 guys for stealing my guys instead of just jgalt.

[Farmer Bernie 0]

So, I guess OB1 liked my choices. 

 

By my count, there might be about 24 or so RB's who have a chance to avoid RBBC (* perhaps fewer than 24).  IMO I was able to get three of them - where the average IAIABOOLBGIAOAL team will have half as many as that.  If both pan out, I'll be a playoff calibre team for years to come.  If neither, then I'll nab next summer's first pick from Wiljimzone.  With 16 teams, it's worth taking a shot at dominance.  If it doesn't work out, then start from scratch.  I'll still get more value trading away a bust RB pick than I would in trading a bust WR pick (on account of scarcity). 

 

(* RBBC at least likely in OAK, DEN, TB, CAR, MIN, CHI, PHI, CLE, ATL)

I like them. In fact JJones was one of the people I was targeting for this round. Were they high risk picks? Sure, they are rookies. Was it ballsy and does it have a possible HUGE payoff - yes. I'm really liking this draft because with the flex component, so many people are pursuing alternate straegeries!

I really don't think they were huge high risk picks. I, like many, had one of targeted for this round - hoping they would make it. They were good picks. How well will they work out, we don't know.

If this was two years ago, jgalt would have just drafted Foster and W.Green. So, we'll see...

[Call me...Tim? 0]

Can i go on the record here and laugh at Emoney's latest pick?

 

 

To each his own.

[Farmer Bernie 0]

Can i go on the record here and laugh at Emoney's latest pick?

 

 

To each his own.

Noted.

[OB1 33]

If this was two years ago, jgalt would have just drafted Foster and W.Green. So, we'll see...

Or Portis and T.J Duckett...

[whoisjgalt 0]

Can i go on the record here and laugh at Emoney's latest pick?

 

 

To each his own.

I like the Gonzo pick very much. He was the only other guy I considered at 3.01 (rather than JJones - not rather than KJones). Of course now he'll have no RB's until at least the end of the 4th.

[Scooby 0]

I debated on taking another rb but did not want to be stuck with a sorry bunch of wr's.

 

And since Windy took my other pick.

[Farmer Bernie 0]

If this was two years ago, jgalt would have just drafted Foster and W.Green.  So, we'll see...

Or Portis and T.J Duckett...

jgalt took the two RBs who were in the best situation (Foster, Green). Portis and Duckett had guys in front of them when they were drafted.

 

Of course, I got both Duckett and Portis at 1.05 and 1.08 repectively in LOST that year.

[Call me...Tim? 0]

Can i go on the record here and laugh at Emoney's latest pick?

 

 

To each his own.

I like the Gonzo pick very much. He was the only other guy I considered at 3.01 (rather than JJones - not rather than KJones). Of course now he'll have no RB's until at least the end of the 4th.

I'm not mocking his lack of RBs, but his taking a TE this high (even in a TE req'd league) and taking someone who is no longer the ndisputed best TE in the NFL.

 

However, the more I think about it, the les sinclined I am to mock him. Maybe I'm getting sick again, but it doesn't seem as laughable as I fist thought.

[OB1 33]

In a recent e-mail from grandpahoo after i gave him a draft update:

 

please mock whomever took Derrick Mason in the third round of a dynasty draft for me.

:ph34r:

[Wilzone 0]

[EMoney 0]

Can i go on the record here and laugh at Emoney's latest pick?

 

 

To each his own.

I like the Gonzo pick very much. He was the only other guy I considered at 3.01 (rather than JJones - not rather than KJones). Of course now he'll have no RB's until at least the end of the 4th.

I'm glad to see that someone agrees. I like the idea of having a te and qb that will be with me for many years to come. Starting WRs and RBs can be found much easier in rookie drafts in future years when tight ends and qbs don't stick quite as well. Sure I'd like to have a highly productive back. I may end up getting lucky, some of the guys with stud running backs may end up being unlucky. Who knows. I'm happy though.

[EMoney 0]

Can i go on the record here and laugh at Emoney's latest pick?

 

 

To each his own.

I like the Gonzo pick very much. He was the only other guy I considered at 3.01 (rather than JJones - not rather than KJones). Of course now he'll have no RB's until at least the end of the 4th.

I'm not mocking his lack of RBs, but his taking a TE this high (even in a TE req'd league) and taking someone who is no longer the ndisputed best TE in the NFL.

 

However, the more I think about it, the les sinclined I am to mock him. Maybe I'm getting sick again, but it doesn't seem as laughable as I fist thought.

Mock me all you want.