How about this GB Fans.....

[GBFAVRE4 0]

Here is my offer to New Orleans...feedback welcomed.

Now I am not 100% sure of the contract status of the WRs, but...

 

NO gets: Javon Walker, Aaron Rodgers, and say GBs 4th round draft pick

 

GB gets: Donte Stallworth and the #2 overall

 

 

GB(2nd and 5th overall) then drafts either:

Leinart 2nd, and Mario Williams/AJHawk 5th

or

Mario Williams 2nd and whatever top Qb is left(Lienart/VYoung/Cutler)

 

I like Leinart 2nd and either Mario Williams/AJ Hawk at 5th

 

(I assume Hou--Bush, GB--Leinart, Tenn--VYoung, NYJ--D'Brick)

[Raider 84 29]

I don't see that happening. They will draft a defensive player most likely.

[Vikings4ever 550]

Why would New Orleans want Rodgers when they just signed Brees?

[Phurfur 70]

Here is my offer to New Orleans...feedback welcomed.

Now I am not 100% sure of the contract status of the WRs, but...

 

NO gets: Javon Walker, Aaron Rodgers, and say GBs 4th round draft pick

 

GB gets: Donte Stallworth and the #2 overall

GB(2nd and 5th overall) then drafts either:

Leinart 2nd, and Mario Williams/AJHawk 5th

or

Mario Williams 2nd and whatever top Qb is left(Lienart/VYoung/Cutler)

 

I like Leinart 2nd and either Mario Williams/AJ Hawk at 5th

 

(I assume Hou--Bush, GB--Leinart, Tenn--VYoung, NYJ--D'Brick)

 

 

This isn't Fanasy Football, these guys trade for real. I would say this has a zero chance of happening. I think the Commissioner would veto this trade.

[Baby Jesus 0]

Why would New Orleans want Rodgers when they just signed Brees?

 

Because GBFavre wants the number 2 pick for all the garbage on his roster.

 

[49ER MAN 0]

Why would New Orleans want Rodgers when they just signed Brees?

 

Good point.

[GBFAVRE4 0]

This isn't Fanasy Football, these guys trade for real. I would say this has a zero chance of happening. I think the Commissioner would veto this trade.

 

 

I certainly dont think it is that rediculous.....Commish would in no way veto that.

 

I am just considering all options....trading up and down......this one caught my eye....

[49ER MAN 0]

I certainly dont think it is that rediculous.....Commish would in no way veto that.

 

I am just considering all options....trading up and down......this one caught my eye....

 

But then why would NO want Rodgers when they have Brees? Insurance in case Brees can't play?

[Baby Jesus 0]

Before this nonsense continues any further, I'd like to point out that Walker, Rodgers, and GB's 2nd round pick aren't worth the #2 pick in the draft.

 

Without Stallworth.

 

Carry on.

[Phurfur 70]

I certainly dont think it is that rediculous.....Commish would in no way veto that.

 

I am just considering all options....trading up and down......this one caught my eye....

 

It is that ridiculous. A damaged WR and an unproven QB are not worth the #2 let alone throwing Stallworth in there. This would be an awesome trade for GB but of no value to NO.

[Walter34 3]

A reasonable deal would be javon + #5 for #2.

 

The deal above is just unloading problems and unvaluable quantity for #2 overall

[whoisjgalt 0]

A reasonable deal would be javon + #5 for #2.

 

The deal above is just unloading problems and unvaluable quantity for #2 overall

 

That still is assigning too much value to Walker. Pick #2 = pick #5 + pick #18 according to the NFL Draft Value Chart. Is Walker really worth a mid-1st-round pick right now? I'd say :no:.

[JetsFan28 0]

Ew. Are you one of those guys who goes after the ff rookies and tries to dump a lot of crap on them in return for their stud? Take a look at this again and please realize that it is ridiculous.

[adam smitty 0]

I'm not gonna lie, this would be a great deal for Green Bay but it doesnt have a realistic chance of happening at all. I really would like to see Rodgers get traded and somehow we end up with Leinart, but it would take a miracle for everything to work out that way.

[listen2me 23 1,873]

Hi everyone....welcome to Fantasy Land, grab your popcorn and take a seat...

 

 

On your right comming up are our flying pigs

 

On your left you will see the Lions draft a non-WR in the 1st round

 

 

[LunaTick 30]

Walker being trade is one thing.

Rogers, he is unknown goods, is another thing

 

But TT in GB would be the dumbest JA if he dealt his QB, without getting a QB.

 

You see, GB has BF right now, and AR, but no #3qb. If you deal AR, for a draft pick. You now have only a non committed BF and could very well enter the draft without a QB at all.

 

TT would be the dumbest GM since Mike Lynn to do this.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Walker being trade is one thing.

Rogers, he is unknown goods, is another thing

 

But TT in GB would be the dumbest JA if he dealt his QB, without getting a QB.

 

You see, GB has BF right now, and AR, but no #3qb. If you deal AR, for a draft pick. You now have only a non committed BF and could very well enter the draft without a QB at all.

 

TT would be the dumbest GM since Mike Lynn to do this.

 

To do that deal? Not at all.

 

And what would be that dumb about knowing you were going in with the #2 pick knowing for sure 2 of 3 guys would be there?

 

Is it any different than going in with the 5th pick and only Aaron Rodgers if Favre is going to retire?

 

NOTE:...not in a million years would New Orleans do this...and that would be the worst GM ever if they did.

[LunaTick 30]

Walker being trade is one thing.

Rogers, he is unknown goods, is another thing

 

But TT in GB would be the dumbest JA if he dealt his QB, without getting a QB.

 

You see, GB has BF right now, and AR, but no #3qb. If you deal AR, for a draft pick. You now have only a non committed BF and could very well enter the draft without a QB at all.

 

TT would be the dumbest GM since Mike Lynn to do this.

 

I don't know about my comment about Rodgers being unknown goods at this point.

And if Brees deal is in fact a 1 year deal with an option to extend, there may be value for NO to get Rodgers.

 

But for GB to deal, and not be forced to use that #2 pick for a QB or the #5, they would need a QB in return.

NO only viable option is puff daddy Bouman. Viable in that he can start and be competitive. But not likely take you to a title. Nice filler until the rookie could take over. Furthermore, Favre would not be threatened by him.

 

To do that deal? Not at all.

 

And what would be that dumb about knowing you were going in with the #2 pick knowing for sure 2 of 3 guys would be there?

 

Is it any different than going in with the 5th pick and only Aaron Rodgers if Favre is going to retire?

 

NOTE:...not in a million years would New Orleans do this...and that would be the worst GM ever if they did.

 

Only way it isn't dumb, is if removing a threat for this year at QB would get Favre to commit for one more go. (But I would want to make Favre know that next time he won't get this much slack before next seasons FA period begins.)

 

Are you stating the Rodgers is a complete fraud and not the future of the franchise in a year or two?

 

 

I had written a post in response and realized I had not responded to your post, even though I quoted it. So I deleted it.

I think there may be something here (deal between GB and NO), but I don't know if there is anything there to make a deal between these two happen.

 

Stalworth and Walker are, imo, of equal value now. But I think Javon has more upside. GB would not have a star receiver for BF or the their apparent after dealing Walker. (adding that the former Packer GM noted his one fault was not providing more targets for Favre, thought they may have had more SB runs had Favre had them.)

 

I will state this,

Is it any different than going in with the 5th pick and only Aaron Rodgers if Favre is going to retire?

about this. This is why I think Favre not committing may cost GB. What if he did retire. And now you are left with Rodgers, a 4th year junior with no game experience and another rookie to lead the squad.

 

I think if Favre were to have committed or retired before the FA period, they would have made moves to select an appropriate aged veteran to come in and compete for a starting spot this season (if Favre retired). Most of these ended up in Detroit, btw.

[ROBOKOP 0]

OK come back to reality now. That trade will not happen. Rodgers is currently the #2 QB behind Favre. With Favre still a ? Rodgers is the insurance policy. Why get rid of a guy with a year under his belt for another first round quarterback? The ONLY way the Packers would trade to #2 is if the Texans dont take Bush. You should try to think out reasonable trades that are realistic and could benefit both teams.

[GBFAVRE4 0]

OK come back to reality now. That trade will not happen. Rodgers is currently the #2 QB behind Favre. With Favre still a ? Rodgers is the insurance policy. Why get rid of a guy with a year under his belt for another first round quarterback? The ONLY way the Packers would trade to #2 is if the Texans dont take Bush. You should try to think out reasonable trades that are realistic and could benefit both teams.

 

 

benefit both teams??? I think Brees/McAllister/Walker/Horn is a pretty damn good offense, and being able to groom AR as a top backup......

 

GB would obviously benefit from it also.....

[Fantasyfreakny 0]

no way................your funny

[patchwork 0]

OK come back to reality now. That trade will not happen. Rodgers is currently the #2 QB behind Favre. With Favre still a ? Rodgers is the insurance policy. Why get rid of a guy with a year under his belt for another first round quarterback? The ONLY way the Packers would trade to #2 is if the Texans dont take Bush. You should try to think out reasonable trades that are realistic and could benefit both teams.

 

I agree. Look at this from the Saints' point of view. As a Packer fan, I'd love it. But there's just no way in hell this is a viable trade.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Are you stating the Rodgers is a complete fraud and not the future of the franchise in a year or two?

I had written a post in response and didn't respond. So I deleted it.

I think there may be something here, but I don't know if there is anything here to make a deal between these two happen.

 

Stalworth and Walker are of equal value now. But I think Javon has more upside. GB would not have a star receiver for BF or the heir apparent.

 

I am stating that Rodgers is as much of an unknown in the NFL as those they would draft are. If TT sees one of them as a better option...as do many...than it may not be a bad option...and probably a very good one. Give them 2 top 5 picks? Great deal...because there is no way they will use both of them...one would be traded for pretty good value (Denver anyone?)

 

Right now GB does not look to have a star WR for Favre or the heir apparent either...

 

 

 

I will state this, about this. This is why I think Favre not committing may cost GB. What if he did retire. And now you are left with Rodgers, 4th year junior with no game experience and nother rookie.

 

I think if Favre were to have committed or retired before the FA period, they would have made moves to select an appropriate aged veteran to come in and compete for a starting spot this season. Most of these ended up in Detroit, btw.

 

I do not think they would have gone after too many of those who have already signed...

[LunaTick 30]

Question for all: Who are the likely trading partners for moving up and down in the draft.

 

Thinking more about this, I don't think that a deal between NO and GB would be very complex. Perhaps would be something like swapping first round picks with Walker going to NO.

However, i think that NO would likely want to swap first rounds and get a 3rd or 4th round pick.

 

I think the only way NO pick becomes really valuable is if somehow Bush were to fall. But then I think NO would take Bush rather than trade down.

[nobody 2,667]

Question for all: Who are the likely trading partners for moving up and down in the draft.

 

 

I think anyone in the 7th-10th spots (Oakland, Detroit, Buffalo and Arizona) would like to move up if possible. Arizona could land Leinart if they could just offer up enough to get the pick, but it would have to be a pretty great deal for the Saints to drop all the way to 10.

 

In reality the only teams with enough to trade for that pick are Green Bay and San Francisco. They might try to jump ahead of the Jets to get Ferguson.

 

 

If the Siants can't move that pick, though, I think they should draft Ferguson instead of Williams. That could possibly put pressure on the Jets to trade the 4th and something for Ferguson since they lost 90% of their O-line in free agency, and then the Saints can snatch up AJ Hawk or Williams at 4. If the Jets don't trade, then you have a replacement for Wayne Gandy who's been playing since the Civil War. Win-win.

[Baby Jesus 0]

benefit both teams??? I think Brees/McAllister/Walker/Horn is a pretty damn good offense, and being able to groom AR as a top backup......

 

Did you read any of the responses in your thread?

[Sho Nuff 720]

Question for all: Who are the likely trading partners for moving up and down in the draft.

 

Thinking more about this, I don't think that a deal between NO and GB would be very complex. Perhaps would be something like swapping first round picks with Walker going to NO.

However, i think that NO would likely want to swap first rounds and get a 3rd or 4th round pick.

 

I think the only way NO pick becomes really valuable is if somehow Bush were to fall. But then I think NO would take Bush rather than trade down.

 

NO would want Walker and a pick to move down 3 spots?

 

If Ted Thompson did that....I would call for his firing today.

 

Green Bay will not move up. With some of the QBs that may fall, their #5 may become very valueable and they may move down. Denver is the obvious choice because of having 2 first rounders...but they do not have that need for a QB...so some QBs falling would mean Mario would already be gone.

 

 

 

I think anyone in the 7th-10th spots (Oakland, Detroit, Buffalo and Arizona) would like to move up if possible. Arizona could land Leinart if they could just offer up enough to get the pick, but it would have to be a pretty great deal for the Saints to drop all the way to 10.

 

In reality the only teams with enough to trade for that pick are Green Bay and San Francisco. They might try to jump ahead of the Jets to get Ferguson.

If the Siants can't move that pick, though, I think they should draft Ferguson instead of Williams. That could possibly put pressure on the Jets to trade the 4th and something for Ferguson since they lost 90% of their O-line in free agency, and then the Saints can snatch up AJ Hawk or Williams at 4. If the Jets don't trade, then you have a replacement for Wayne Gandy who's been playing since the Civil War. Win-win.

 

Do you really think that Green Bay would want to give up something...to move up and take an OT? Or were you talking only about San Fran with that?

[slash 0]

Here is my offer to New Orleans...feedback welcomed.

Now I am not 100% sure of the contract status of the WRs, but...

 

NO gets: Javon Walker, Aaron Rodgers, and say GBs 4th round draft pick

 

GB gets: Donte Stallworth and the #2 overall

GB(2nd and 5th overall) then drafts either:

Leinart 2nd, and Mario Williams/AJHawk 5th

or

Mario Williams 2nd and whatever top Qb is left(Lienart/VYoung/Cutler)

 

I like Leinart 2nd and either Mario Williams/AJ Hawk at 5th

 

(I assume Hou--Bush, GB--Leinart, Tenn--VYoung, NYJ--D'Brick)

 

 

There is no way in h3ll that NO would go for that...

 

1) why take a risk going from a good #2 wr to a wr that has his knee rebuilt and wont be even close to 80% for another year. and after that he wont be that much better than what you got now.

2) what kind of value does rodgers have? not much.

3) you want them to take rodgers and give you the chance to pick up any of the top 3 qb's in the draft for your additional 4th rounder? no way

 

If this happens, consider it a steal just below the hershel walker steal that cowboys had.