Illegal Immigration - This chased torridjoe!

[Ravens 03 0]

So, there are roughly 300 million US citizens.

And there are approx. 100 million Mexicans.

 

And there are 15 million illegals Mexicans in the US.

 

 

That means there's 15% of Mexico's entire population in the US illegally.

 

 

Does anybody find this shocking?

[Strike 6,023]

A recent poll indicated that something like 70% of those left in Mexico would come here in a heartbeat. So there's a neverending line waiting to cross the border if we don't secure it. I also read that many in Mexico are naming their children using American names so that when they grow up and come here they'll fit in easier. WTF is up with that? But no there's no problem. Just ask edger....

[Electric Mayhem 35]

Not really. I'm surprised it's not more.

 

Of course, it will be soon enough.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,433]

I don't have the link because I heard it on the radio, but there was an estimate that 1 out of every 5 Messicans born today will end up in the U.S.

[Ilov80s 0]

Not really. I'm surprised it's not more.

 

Of course, it will be soon enough.

 

we might as well go on the offensive and annex Mexico.

[Ravens 03 0]

I don't have the link because I heard it on the radio, but there was an estimate that 1 out of every 5 Messicans born today will end up in the U.S.

 

[Electric Mayhem 35]

we might as well go on the offensive and annex Mexico.

 

i actually had that in my original post before I changed it. Once it reaches 51%, don't we just automatically GET Mexico as some kind of door prize?

 

i wonder if there is any oil down there...

[Hitfreak 0]

So, there are roughly 300 million US citizens.

And there are approx. 100 million Mexicans.

 

And there are 15 million illegals Mexicans in the US.

That means there's 15% of Mexico's entire population in the US illegally.

Does anybody find this shocking?

 

15 Million illegal immigrants in US - not necessarily Mexicans

 

I know in our area a lot of the latin immigrants are from Guatamala and El Salvador.

 

The latinoes come up through Mexico on their way to the US. If they are caught the say they are from Mexico so they will be deported to Mexico so they can try again instead of being deported all the way back to their home country.

[The Moz 71]

Once they get a majority in Cali, NM. Ari, Texas, Nevada -- they are loking to annex land back to mexico

[Ravens 03 0]

15 Million illegal immigrants in US - not necessarily Mexicans

 

I know in our area a lot of the latin immigrants are from Guatamala and El Salvador.

 

The latinoes come up through Mexico on their way to the US. If they are caught the say they are from Mexico so they will be deported to Mexico so they can try again instead of being deported all the way back to their home country.

 

Please stop confusing this thread with FACTS!

 

TIA

[torridjoe 48]

So, there are roughly 300 million US citizens.

And there are approx. 100 million Mexicans.

 

And there are 15 million illegals Mexicans in the US.

That means there's 15% of Mexico's entire population in the US illegally.

Does anybody find this shocking?

 

accepted estimates are 11-12 million undocumenteds.

Nowhere near all of them are Mexican.

 

So much for your stats analysis.

[Hitfreak 0]

Please stop confusing this thread with FACTS!

 

TIA

 

accepted estimates are 11-12 million undocumenteds.

Nowhere near all of them are Mexican.

 

So much for your stats analysis.

 

[Strike 6,023]

accepted estimates are 11-12 million undocumenteds.

Nowhere near all of them are Mexican.

 

So much for your stats analysis.

 

How come Bush is willing to call them what they are, illegal immigrants, but you refuse to do so? LOL

[The Moz 71]

accepted estimates are 11-12 million undocumenteds.

Nowhere near all of them are Mexican.

 

So much for your stats analysis.

 

how right you are ! !

 

10 million 990 thousand - 11 million 990 thousand ! messicans

 

fixed

[torridjoe 48]

How come Bush is willing to call them what they are, illegal immigrants, but you refuse to do so? LOL

 

Because undocumented is a more explicative, less demagogically tinged word.

 

how right you are ! !

 

10 million 990 thousand - 11 million 990 thousand ! messicans

 

fixed

 

so the answer is -1,000,000? what do I win?

[Ravens 03 0]

Because undocumented is a more explicative, less demagogically tinged word.

 

They are CRIMINALS!!!!!!

 

Illegals.

[Strike 6,023]

Because undocumented is less accurate and makes a better talking point word

 

fixored

[davebg 0]

Because undocumented is a more explicative

To you maybe...not to me.

 

You think that "undocumented" is better b/c it talks to the fact that these people cannot be tracked or accounted for.

 

I think that "illegal" is better b/c it identifies them as what they are...people who are breaking the law.

[torridjoe 48]

They are CRIMINALS!!!!!!

 

Illegals.

 

They're not criminals. Being here illegally isn't a crime.

 

Some are illegal entrants, others are visa overstayers. To cover both of them, the word "undocumented" serves best.

 

To you maybe...not to me.

 

You think that "undocumented" is better b/c it talks to the fact that these people cannot be tracked or accounted for.

 

I think that "illegal" is better b/c it identifies them as what they are...people who are breaking the law.

 

what law is that?

[Ravens 03 0]

They're not criminals. Being here illegally isn't a crime.

 

Can somebody explain this one to me please?

[Strike 6,023]

Being here illegally isn't a crime.

 

Wow, that's a good one. Paraphrased that means

 

"breaking the law isn't illegal".

[Ravens 03 0]

Wow, that's a good one. Paraphrased that means

 

"breaking the law isn't illegal".

 

This is as bad as I have seen a torridjoe'ism.

[Toro 3]

Being here illegally isn't a crime.

 

I would be quiet now.

 

ETA: These illegals have broken federal law. Look up US Code, Title 8 & 18, Sections 1324 & 1325.

[Ravens 03 0]

I would be quiet now.

 

Naw - I'd like to hear more.

 

I think he's off his meds today.

[davebg 0]

what law is that?

Uh... ...that'd be the one that keeps all of the spring breakers returning from Cancun from running past US Customs w/duffel bags full of Acapulco Gold in the airport.

[Ravens 03 0]

These illegals have broken federal law. Look up US Code, Title 8 & 18, Sections 1324 & 1325.

 

Not more facts!

[Toro 3]

Not more facts!

 

YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!

 

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,433]

They're not criminals. Being here illegally isn't a crime.

 

what law is that?

 

You can start with the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) and then move onto IIRIRA (The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act).

 

We have laws that govern who can be here and who cannot. If you are not adhering to those laws, then you are doing something that is prohibited by law. I would hazard to guess that is the definition of "illegal".

[Strike 6,023]

I'm putting muhammad's infamous qutoe in my sig, as a tribute to his.....er........brilliance?

[Ravens 03 0]

YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!

 

 

Nice sig.

 

 

 

I should get a royalty for making him cough it up.

 

I'm putting muhammad's infamous qutoe in my sig, as a tribute to his.....er........brilliance?

 

Toro beat ya to it.

[Hitfreak 0]

They're not criminals. Being here illegally isn't a crime.

 

Some are illegal entrants, others are visa overstayers. To cover both of them, the word "undocumented" serves best.

what law is that?

 

 

Wow, though I didn't agree with your views on political issues I respected your arguements and some of your reasoning.

 

But this takes the cake. I think you just shot yourself in the foot. You just lost a good deal of my respect.

[Toro 3]

Toro beat ya to it.

 

I just can't pass this gem up. I am thinking of getting it tattooed on my ass.

[Hitfreak 0]

I just can't pass this gem up. I am thinking of getting it tattooed on my ass.

 

[Ravens 03 0]

I just can't pass this gem up. I am thinking of getting it tattooed on my ass.

 

[torridjoe 48]

You can start with the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) and then move onto IIRIRA (The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act).

 

We have laws that govern who can be here and who cannot. If you are not adhering to those laws, then you are doing something that is prohibited by law. I would hazard to guess that is the definition of "illegal".

 

I didn't say they weren't here illegally. I said they weren't committing a crime.

If it's a crime, tell me this:

 

*is it a misdemeanor or a felony? All criminal offenses are one or the other, are they not?

*in which US criminal court are the offenses tried?

*how many detained border jumpers have been convicted of the specific crime of being here illegally, for the last year in which such statistics are available?

*why is the US House seeking to make it a crime?

[Strike 6,023]

I just can't pass this gem up. I am thinking of getting it tattooed on my ass.

 

I wouldn't go that far....

[SUXBNME 1,596]

Immigrant Haiku

 

 

Stupid liberals

Illegals need to get out

Torrid Joe blows goats

[hoytdwow 202]

tattooed on my ass.

ghey

[Strike 6,023]

I didn't say they weren't here illegally. I said they weren't committing a crime.

If it's a crime, tell me this:

 

*is it a misdemeanor or a felony? All criminal offenses are one or the other, are they not?

*in which US criminal court are the offenses tried?

*how many detained border jumpers have been convicted of the specific crime of being here illegally, for the last year in which such statistics are available?

*why is the US House seeking to make it a crime?

 

riddle me this batman. How can you be doing something illegal if you're not committing a crime?

[Ravens 03 0]

I didn't say they weren't here illegally. I said they weren't committing a crime.

If it's a crime, tell me this:

 

*is it a misdemeanor or a felony? All criminal offenses are one or the other, are they not?

*in which US criminal court are the offenses tried?

*how many detained border jumpers have been convicted of the specific crime of being here illegally, for the last year in which such statistics are available?

*why is the US House seeking to make it a crime?

 

You need any help digging that hole any deeper Pedro?

 

 

 

riddle me this batman. How can you be doing something illegal if you're not committing a crime?

 

 

:popcorn: