Jerry Porter...DUMB pick league...Draft COMMENTARY...take 2.

[SoloMatisse 0]

Joc, are you still searchin' for that elusive #2RB??

[jocstrap 8]

Joc, are you still searchin' for that elusive #2RB??

 

 

I am pumped with my two options for my #2 running back - - One of these guys will bust out 9 td's - - the question is which one?

 

week 1 Atlanta @ Car - might be tough for Foster but the 1st game you really neva know!

week 1 - Monday night football - Minny @ Washington - damn that's a tough matchup also

 

Ok I'll make that pick the week of! But hell ya I like these two guys!

 

Who are your #2 and #3 guys?

[football_scooter 0]

Here is a possibility with the Staley pick - he is now big, slow, and fat, yet strong (bus) - I bet he will be given 1 opportunity to convert a 3rd and 1 and he's does successfully...first down! He converts and is now 1 out of 1 in his new short yardage role. He is next given 1 chance and 1 chance only to convert on 3rd and 1 from the 1 and he punches it in ...TD Then the snowball effect occurs and Staley get 10td's on the season!

 

or maybe not!

 

An excellent theory...

 

I have a better one.

 

Cowher decides to see what Staley can do, and puts him in at the goal on 1st and 2.

 

Staley gets the rock, plunges 1 yard into a hole that doesn't exist, and comes up lame after popping his hamstring.

 

Then he's here => for the rest of the season.

 

Much more likely, IMO.

 

Besides, I think Haynes has earned the #2 spot while Staley hasn't earned sh!t.

 

One man's opinion.

[jocstrap 8]

An excellent theory...

 

I have a better one.

 

Cowher decides to see what Staley can do, and puts him in at the goal on 1st and 2.

 

Staley gets the rock, plunges 1 yard into a hole that doesn't exist, and comes up lame after popping his hamstring.

 

Then he's here => for the rest of the season.

 

Much more likely, IMO.

 

Besides, I think Haynes has earned the #2 spot while Staley hasn't earned sh!t.

 

One man's opinion.

 

 

That is definitely the more likely scenario. I was just playing the devil's advocate. I like Haynes tons more, I had him circled and not Staley. Ah but he has earned the right to those td's. Just ask him how he felt two or three years ago when he carried the rock for over 100 yards a game only to end up with 0 td's and the bus had 3td's on 3 carries for 3 yards! It's the circle of life coming back to give him all those 1 yarders!

[SoloMatisse 0]

I am pumped with my two options for my #2 running back - - One of these guys will bust out 9 td's - - the question is which one?

 

week 1 Atlanta @ Car - might be tough for Foster but the 1st game you really neva know!

week 1 - Monday night football - Minny @ Washington - damn that's a tough matchup also

 

Ok I'll make that pick the week of! But hell ya I like these two guys!

 

Who are your #2 and #3 guys?

 

As for my backs, I havent drafted my #2 yet. He's still on the board........ No, clearly Ive got to let some situations sort themselves out, but Ill probably open up with one of the Colts RBs in primetime on Sunday night vs the Giants if its clear that either Rhodes or Addai will the guy at that point. I actually drafted Cedric Benson the be my #1, so technically, Ron Brown is my #2............and the Colts guys are just bye week fill-ins............

[ellisonb11 0]

yea i took a risk on staley, u never know what he will eventually do for their team...after all, its a free league, fock it! .....but when is the timer going to run out? its almost been 12 hours.

[football_scooter 0]

I actually drafted Cedric Benson the be my #1, so technically, Ron Brown is my #2............and the Colts guys are just bye week fill-ins............

 

In other words, you have Ronnie Brown and two RBBC guys in Benson (TJones) and the Colts RBBC tandem.

 

Nice one. Good luck with that - should be fun to watch it pan out. I'm fairly certain that neither situation will work out as you think. One man's opinion.

[Clash of the Titans 1]

i skipped sweetness 34..he timed out yfor the 3rd time in this draft......solo you're up

[Ace08 11]

I'm wondering...out of curiousity....how many of you actually WATCHED Vernon Davis play in college? I'm not talking about the highlights from the draft either....

 

I know he's a combine warrior. His measurables are off the charts....but he doesn't play anywhere near as fast as he timed. For a guy with that much straight-away speed he lacks a quick first step off the LOS.

 

I'm not saying he's not going to be a good pro....but I think this kid is being SEVERELY overrated. Also, that second TE in San Fran ain't bad and is going to catch at least a decent amount of passes. Seeing as the niners aren't going to have much of a passing game due to their QB situation I just don't think there's enough passes to go around to make him a fantasy factor this year especially since Antonio Bryant is going to get a fair amount of catches as well.

 

Good athlete....good hands....but I'm taking a wait-and-see approach on the kid. The kid you guys need to watch out for is the rookie out of Georgia....severely UNDERRATED and the kid can really play.

[ellisonb11 0]

i am going out of town again today, i will be back on sunday....there will be internet access down at my hotel in the key west ( ), so i will be checking as much as i can...i will probably check in tonight or tomorrow morning.

[Yippie Skippy 0]

I'm not saying he's not going to be a good pro....but I think this kid is being SEVERELY overrated.

 

How can the 132nd pick be considered SEVERELY overrated, regardless of player??

 

Huge upside and a high ceiling is the exact risk I'm looking for in my backup TE.

[SoloMatisse 0]

In other words, you have Ronnie Brown and two RBBC guys in Benson (TJones) and the Colts RBBC tandem.

 

Nice one. Good luck with that - should be fun to watch it pan out. I'm fairly certain that neither situation will work out as you think. One man's opinion.

 

 

Yeah, maybe Ill just take Priest Holmes and get the other half of that committee.......that may pan out too......just one man's opinion.

[Ace08 11]

How can the 132nd pick be considered SEVERELY overrated

 

Because I was talking about real life there...not fantasy. At where you took him he's not much of a risk at all...I was just commenting that alot of publications are making this kid out to be better than he is.

[Rye & Leaf 0]

I may have to send you my picks again tonight, Solo.

[SoloMatisse 0]

I may have to send you my picks again tonight, Solo.

 

 

cool...I doubt we'll get to those picks for a week to 10 days, but I'll stow them away and use them if needed. By the way, your team is lookin solid at this point. Youre gonna be tough to beat. Imo, easily the top team so far....

[Rye & Leaf 0]

1.10 - My Dixie Weekend

QB - Donovan McNabb/ Drew Brees

RB - Brian Westbrook/Ruben Droughns/A.Green/Chris Brown/Samkon Gado

WR - Larry Fitzgerald (2.03?)/Reggie Wayne/Laveranues Coles

 

 

I really like this team. You have excellent QB depth and four starting RBs that catch the ball a lot. Good trade bait to get a top TE. Unfortunately, you will see how much a top 5 TE will cost once their owners see how many points those players rake in.

Your WRs are excellent, as none of them are below #2 quality.

 

Ace

QB - Daunte Culpepper

RB - Steven Jackson/Willis McGahee/Frank Gore

WR - Chris Chambers/Plaxico Burress/Derick Mason/Matt Jones/

TE - Kellen Winslow

 

I like this team because of the WRs. I think Chambers will be big, like top 7 big, and Mason could out perform Burress. Matt Jones is a good bye week fill in worthy of a starting position as he will catch close to 10 tds this year. Daunte might be a top 10 QB this year. Judging his past performances, excluding last year, he should be. One of the draw backs about C-pep is that the man does fumble a lot.

 

1.11 - Grateful Parrots

QB - Eli Manning

RB - Rudi Johnson/Julius Jones/Corey Dillon/Chris Perry

WR - DJax/Eddie Kennison/David Givens

TE - Alge Crumpler/Ben Troupe

 

Good team. Good RB depth, and because chris perry catches so many passes, he wouldn't be a bad bye week replacement. The receivers are really good as I believe all three will have 1000 yeard seasons. I like Givens this year. Crumpler will continue to be Vick's #1 target and should put up his usual numbers. I like Eli but I don't like him enough to agree with some who claim this kid will be better than his brother. Granted Eli may have threw for more yards in his rookie season than his brother, his completion percentage was like ten points lower. (that's off the top of my head, so don't kill me if I am totally wrong)

 

 

1.06 - Clash of the Titans

QB - Peyton Manning/Ron Mexico

RB - Run Tiki Tiki Tiki Run! Barber/Fred Taylor/LenDale White

WR - Hines Ward/Donald Driver/Terry Glenn

TE - L.J. Smith

 

Very strong team. The only weakness is lack of depth at RB and WR, caused by thearly Manning pick which almost always does that. Hum, I could see LJ smith being a top 5 TE this year. Manning should be the #1 QB this year. Tiki is a top #5 RB.....all been said before. As for Glenn, i don't see him having a big year.

 

1.04 - The Unwashed Masses

QB - Trent Green

RB - Clinton Portis/Willie Parker/DeAngelo Williams/ Mike Anderson/Verron Haynes

WR - Chad Johnson/Andre Johnson/Jerry Porter/Joe Jurevicius

TE - Tony Gonzalez

 

Trent Green has seen better days but he can still throw for 4000 in his sleep, but will he under Herm Edwards? I'm confident Tony G will have a a big year. Just a hunch. More TD catches, but less receptions. Your starting receivers are better than average, though I'm not too sure about their back up. C Portis and W Parker are good RBs and it might only be a matter of time before D Williams is starting in Carolina.

 

1.02 - howie929

QB - Drew Bledsoe

RB - Shawn Alexander/Reggie Bush/Kevan Barlow/Greg Jones/T.J. Duckett

WR - Marvin Harrison/Javon Walker/Joe Horn/Keyshawn Johnson

TE - Jason Witten

 

Your team might be explosive out of the gate because of the veteran talent, but they will tail off as the season wears on. Bledsoe will be a bit more consistant this year with TO but he has a history of starting fast and then crawling to the finish line. With the age you have at receiver, you might be in trouble down the stretch with injuries and decreased production. At RB you are solid as I am sure R Bush will catch a lot of passes this year, but he shouldn't get many oppertunities for TDs.

[football_scooter 0]

just so you all know, that's the sleeper QB I've been wanting to talk about since we started this draft, but couldn't.

 

Mange forearm, here I come?

 

lol

 

I think Simms is going to bust wide open in Gruden's offense. Word is that the team loves his ethic, and that he's been frequently seen at the training facility at 5 PM all through the offseason.

 

 

I seriously think Simms is the best sleeper QB in the NFL this year for FFB. Nothing outrageous, but I could see 2 TDs with 240 yds pretty consistently. Good team around him, looked sharp when they started turning him loose last year...I love this pick.

[SoloMatisse 0]

just so you all know, that's the sleeper QB I've been wanting to talk about since we started this draft, but couldn't.

 

Mange forearm, here I come?

 

lol

 

I think Simms is going to bust wide open in Gruden's offense. Word is that the team loves his ethic, and that he's been frequently seen at the training facility at 5 PM all through the offseason.

I seriously think Simms is the best sleeper QB in the NFL this year for FFB. Nothing outrageous, but I could see 2 TDs with 240 yds pretty consistently. Good team around him, looked sharp when they started turning him loose last year...I love this pick.

 

 

I agree, Scoot. I love the pick. Simms could be really nice for you.......heck, imo he'll be your #1 more often than not. He's got a tough playoff schedule, which is the only reason I shyed away from him, but Im glad to see you snag him. Definite value and Im on board with the breakout.

[jocstrap 8]

I will be out of pocket until about 2:30 cst today - then I'll get right on those two picks. Good pick Scooter on Simms, and who in the hell just picked Priest Holmes??

[Rye & Leaf 0]

who in the hell just picked Priest Holmes??

 

Lucifer's monkey boy.

 

I just think he is too good of a player to not have announced his retirement yet. Some say he is going through the motions to get a $710,000 pay day, but I get the feeling he is going to play this season. Priest has said in a number of interviews that it will be his decision whether he plays or not, and he has said he wants to play. To my understanding, he has the same medical problem as a certain Browns RB, and he too was advised that if he continues to play his condition could make him more prone to a spinal injury, but he refuses to retire.

 

Who knows? Priest was a 12th round pick and if he plays he could be the stephen davis or the FWP of this draft. That sounded weird, but you know what I mean - great value, late round.

[jocstrap 8]

Jocstrap checking in and now checking out - - going swimming boys - - I know I'm next up and I'll check back 4:30-5:00 cst to take my 6th and 7th running back

[football_scooter 0]

Jocstrap checking in and now checking out - - going swimming boys - - I know I'm next up and I'll check back 4:30-5:00 cst to take my 6th and 7th running back

 

I sure hope so, 'cuz your 2-3-4 RBs really suck balls.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(I kid, I kid... )

[ellisonb11 0]

just checking in guys, im in the keys and getting a little tan... ....this interent costs 10 dollars, 10 dollars! ill check in later tonight and in the morning.

[Grateful Parrot 0]

1.11 - Grateful Parrots

QB - Eli Manning

RB - Rudi Johnson/Julius Jones/Corey Dillon/Chris Perry

WR - DJax/Eddie Kennison/David Givens

TE - Alge Crumpler/Ben Troupe

 

Good team. Good RB depth, and because chris perry catches so many passes, he wouldn't be a bad bye week replacement. The receivers are really good as I believe all three will have 1000 yeard seasons. I like Givens this year. Crumpler will continue to be Vick's #1 target and should put up his usual numbers. I like Eli but I don't like him enough to agree with some who claim this kid will be better than his brother. Granted Eli may have threw for more yards in his rookie season than his brother, his completion percentage was like ten points lower. (that's off the top of my head, so don't kill me if I am totally wrong)

 

I like your assessment of my team. If the Tiki Gods line up, I could be in contention. Your alright in my book...I don't care what Scooter says about you.

 

I think Eli being in his 3rd year should step it up a notch and lessen his int ratio. This will sound foolish, but I see Eli pretty much matching Peyton this year since he doesn't have Edge to dump off too, which would be pretty cool in my book. Plus, since I pissed Scoots off with this pick, he must be a jewell

[SoloMatisse 0]

I like your assessment of my team. If the Tiki Gods line up, I could be in contention. Your alright in my book...I don't care what Scooter says about you.

 

I think Eli being in his 3rd year should step it up a notch and lessen his int ratio. This will sound foolish, but I see Eli pretty much matching Peyton this year since he doesn't have Edge to dump off too, which would be pretty cool in my book. Plus, since I pissed Scoots off with this pick, he must be a jewell

 

 

 

Atleast you were right there about one thing......

[Rye & Leaf 0]

How many rounds is this draft? 18 or 20?

[SoloMatisse 0]

How many rounds is this draft? 18 or 20?

 

 

for you 18.........the rest of us get 20...................

[Rye & Leaf 0]

for you 18.........the rest of us get 20...................

 

[football_scooter 0]

I like your assessment of my team. If the Tiki Gods line up, I could be in contention. Your alright in my book...I don't care what Scooter says about you.

 

I think Eli being in his 3rd year should step it up a notch and lessen his int ratio. This will sound foolish, but I see Eli pretty much matching Peyton this year since he doesn't have Edge to dump off too, which would be pretty cool in my book. Plus, since I pissed Scoots off with this pick, he must be a jewell

 

I truly think people are underestimating what Eli is going to do this year - I think he's going to be FFB stud. The only limiting factor might be that the Giants have an excellent defense, which keeps games from getting too out of hand.

 

But I do think in joc's esteemed rankings, he may have overlooked some of your players.

 

 

By the way guys, I'm sorry it took so long for me to pick. I worked all week with the flu, and when I got home I pretty much passed out dead to the world.

 

I just woke up in a cold sweat with 102 temperature.

 

That might explain the Pittman pick. lol

 

No, I actually like that pick a lot - never have enough RBs, eh Joc? Sorry to whomever took Caddy...I have a thing for poductive receiving backs in a PPR league.

 

Be happy though...I almost took a QB3 there just to irritate the teams that don't have backups.

[SoloMatisse 0]

hang tough, Scoot. youre drafting skills seem to be rising with your temperature, though. I like where youve gone with your last 2 slots. even though they ARE both Bucs.....kinda weird. I dunno.........

[football_scooter 0]

hang tough, Scoot. youre drafting skills seem to be rising with your temperature, though. I like where youve gone with your last 2 slots. even though they ARE both Bucs.....kinda weird. I dunno.........

 

what can I say - not my fault they're both bucs....and it fit my BYE schedule, too.

 

Besides, the run on Bucs was too irrisistable.

 

Caddy was hurt last year, and Pittman is one of the more underrated backs out there...he might have lasted another round, but I already had him ranked well above a dozen players already picked.

 

We'll see if it pans out...could be a wasted pick.

[Steel City Blues 0]

Emailed my picks to the Guru & a short version to Solo.

 

I'm off to enjoy the weekend. I'll check in Sunday evening. Happy drafting!

[jocstrap 8]

Just in case you guys missed this on the front page of fftoday!

 

Unlike last season, the Titans will have a proven target opposite receiver Drew Bennett this fall. The arrival of former Patriots star David Givens should take some pressure — and attention — off of the team's most productive wideout in 2005. Also, Bennett will be playing with a quarterback who knows him better than anyone else. And for the first time in a while, he's completely healthy. (Nashville Tennessean)

 

Galloway teams #1 wr - Bennett teams #1 wr - TJ houshmanzadah & Stallworth very respectable #2's

 

I'm pretty excited about that wr corps. I wonder if Kevin Jones would have been a better pick than Taylor or Foster though? NAH

[ellisonb11 0]

Galloway teams #1 wr - Bennett teams #1 wr - TJ houshmanzadah & Stallworth very respectable #2's

 

I'm pretty excited about that wr corps. I wonder if Kevin Jones would have been a better pick than Taylor or Foster though? NAH

 

ur excited about ur WR corps? i wouldnt be excited about them. i would be happy about ur RBs for sure though. ur WRs are fine, but nothing to be super excited about. ur RBs will be the guys to carry ur team for sure, i like them. alot of upside on those guys.

 

by the way, when does sweetness timeout at? i will be back late tonight so let me know in the forum because i have who i want to pick all ready.

[Yippie Skippy 0]

by the way, when does sweetness timeout at? i will be back late tonight so let me know in the forum because i have who i want to pick all ready.

 

Clash made his pick last night at 1:21 AM by my west coast time shown on this thread. Regardless of time zones ellison is OTC. Good pick Clash, even if you were in a drunken stupor.

 

Sweet, you know the rules by now so we are skipping you. Feel free to step in and pick anytime you choose.

[football_scooter 0]

Galloway teams #1 wr - Bennett teams #1 wr - TJ houshmanzadah & Stallworth very respectable #2's

 

Galloway: old, coming off a career season, never should have been drafted that high

 

Bennett: decent, but nothing to write home about. Volek will be wildly inconsistent and when the Titans are 2-6 [the rookie]will get his chances, which further reduce his value.

 

Housh and Stallworth are probably better than either of those two, and since we don't know about the health of [QBx's] shoulder, even Stallworth has his question marks. Not to mention his apparent passion for hurting his hammys.

 

My only question remaining is how much crack you smoked before you made this post, because your WRs are the suck.

 

good luck with that though.

[SoloMatisse 0]

ur excited about ur WR corps? i wouldnt be excited about them. i would be happy about ur RBs for sure though. ur WRs are fine, but nothing to be super excited about. ur RBs will be the guys to carry ur team for sure, i like them. alot of upside on those guys.

 

by the way, when does sweetness timeout at? i will be back late tonight so let me know in the forum because i have who i want to pick all ready.

 

 

El=

 

YOU are on the clock....Sweetness has timed out.

[Grateful Parrot 0]

Just in case you guys missed this on the front page of fftoday!

 

Unlike last season, the Titans will have a proven target opposite receiver Drew Bennett this fall. The arrival of former Patriots star David Givens should take some targets — and catches — off of the team's most productive wideout in 2005.

 

Fixed

[jocstrap 8]

Galloway: old, coming off a career season, never should have been drafted that high

 

Bennett: decent, but nothing to write home about. Volek will be wildly inconsistent and when the Titans are 2-6 Vince Young will get his chances, which further reduce his value.

 

Housh and Stallworth are probably better than either of those two, and since we don't know about the health of Brees' shoulder, even Stallworth has his question marks. Not to mention his apparent passion for hurting his hammys.

 

My only question remaining is how much crack you smoked before you made this post, because your WRs are the suck.

 

good luck with that though.

 

Scooter, you of all people just announced my undrafted #2 qb while he is still on the market . I agreed on not mentioning names throughout the draft and you just flucked up. If you are so down on Galloway, why did you draft simms as your #2 qb saying he has the potential to do really well? I know it's not because of the Wr #2 in clayton?

 

Three licks with the paddle for that one! Not to mention 2 undrafted QB's?

[Rye & Leaf 0]

The arrival of former Patriots star David Givens should take some pressure — and attention — off of the team's most productive wideout in 2005. Also, Bennett will be playing with a quarterback who knows him better than anyone else. And for the first time in a while, he's completely healthy. (Nashville Tennessean)

 

Givens #1. It's coming Joc. Volek still thinks that Bennett will still have a 1000 season though, but as a #2 as I iinterpreted in what I read. But, Volek may just be pandering to him and keeping him optimistic about his season.

 

 

I know it's not because of the Wr #2 in clayton?

 

I drafted Clayton. I thought he was a special player in college and think he will be the same in the pros. He had a nice first season, but that was out of necessity and a fluke. I believe he will be a 1000 year receiver and have 65 -70 catches with a upside of maybe 80 catches. After all, he is a 3rd year receiver, but of course, only the truly good WRS receive the 3rd year bump. Jury is out.

 

Three licks with the paddle for that one!

 

kinky

 

Nice pick of Leftwich, El. Guy gets no fantasy respect.