Rye & Leaf 0 Posted July 12, 2006 All in all, it's my worst nightmare. Anywhere after 6th, I wanted 12. Now I'm not low enough to have the bookend, and not high enough to be sure of getting a player I really want in the 1st or 2nd. Then the 3rd and 4th seem like the tail ends on WR and RB runs. Gah. I fear if the list of RBs dwindles I might have to go with an unconventional approach and reach for Westbrook at 1.10, then take best WR available at 2.03 Rough pull...rough pull. I had a 50% chance at a top 6 position and missed. I'm so irritated. IMO, any of the above could compete for a league title, but winning it all? Fat chance. Unless the WCOFF is ppr, I wouldn't go Wr in the second.... I thought of a couple more things, most of which you probably know, but maybe not: Load up on RBs and WRs that are great value picks like mason, housh, evans, because of your position, forget about the big names. You can probably get A johnson or J Walker (maybe even Chambers) in the 3rd or 4th. When you draft, always pick the best player available, not always catering to what your team needs. IF you keep winning this battle, someone else is losing. If you gain value in every round, by the end of the draft, you will have a great team. And as for picking backups, don't just draft someone who gets reps, pick someone who if the situation was right they would make a huge impact, like L johnson last year, or w Mcgahee the year before. I know you like him, but drafting guys like Barlow will do nothing for your team. Just random thoughts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steel City Blues 0 Posted July 12, 2006 All in all, it's my worst nightmare. Anywhere after 6th, I wanted 12. Now I'm not low enough to have the bookend, and not high enough to be sure of getting a player I really want in the 1st or 2nd. Then the 3rd and 4th seem like the tail ends on WR and RB runs. Gah. I fear if the list of RBs dwindles I might have to go with an unconventional approach and reach for Westbrook at 1.10, then take best WR available at 2.03 Rough pull...rough pull. I had a 50% chance at a top 6 position and missed. I'm so irritated. IMO, any of the above could compete for a league title, but winning it all? Fat chance. Ok, here are some subway wall scribblings about drafting 10th. If found it mildly amusing that I picked 10th in this draft because the 10 hole has produced well in my main $ league. Good value tends to slip to that slot after the "predictable" first 2 rounds. True, you don't have the luxury of taking TJones/Benson or Rhodes/Addai. You get something better IMO. One of the keys is to get a feel for who the 11 & 12 drafters will take on the turn. Maybe they both drafted top 5 TE on the 5/6 turn. Round nine is here and a run on TE has you nervous with only 1 worthy starter left on the board and 2 WR a tier above the rest. Team 11 & 12 are thin at WR because they took a top TE early. You can play the odds those teams won't take a b/u TE which is your best VBD player and pluck a > WR that wouldn't make it back to you out of the deal. Usually works great if you have the stones. Apply the reverse if neither has drafted a QB yet going into round 7. Your target QB is still there, but you wanted to take him in round 8. Here you are @ 7 and you know at least one if not both of these guys are going QB here. Your gem pick is at risk, so you snag him. It also helps "egg them on" to take a QB as their fear of no decent QBs being there next time heightens. That leaves only 2 picks from WR, RB, TE... before your next pick. You probaly just got the QB you wanted and an equal value player at the other position. Another reason? When drafting on the turn, those teams tend to reach rather than take the best value available. (See Joc in round 2/3...sorry Joc). The owner has this worst case scenario fear that there won't be any worthy XXXXX(#3 RB)XXXX players left after 20+ picks. They often take at least one player earlier than he should go by VBD. Use that to your advantage and scoop up the value. Some of my best drafting has come from the 3rd and 10th postion. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted July 12, 2006 Ok, here are some subway wall scribblings about drafting 10th. If found it mildly amusing that I picked 10th in this draft because the 10 hole has produced well in my main $ league. Good value tends to slip to that slot after the "predictable" first 2 rounds. True, you don't have the luxury of taking TJones/Benson or Rhodes/Addai. You get something better IMO. One of the keys is to get a feel for who the 11 & 12 drafters will take on the turn. Maybe they both drafted top 5 TE on the 5/6 turn. Round nine is here and a run on TE has you nervous with only 1 worthy starter left on the board and 2 WR a tier above the rest. Team 11 & 12 are thin at WR because they took a top TE early. You can play the odds those teams won't take a b/u TE which is your best VBD player and pluck a > WR that wouldn't make it back to you out of the deal. Usually works great if you have the stones. Apply the reverse if neither has drafted a QB yet going into round 7. Your target QB is still there, but you wanted to take him in round 8. Here you are @ 7 and you know at least one if not both of these guys are going QB here. Your gem pick is at risk, so you snag him. It also helps "egg them on" to take a QB as their fear of no decent QBs being there next time heightens. That leaves only 2 picks from WR, RB, TE... before your next pick. You probaly just got the QB you wanted and an equal value player at the other position. Another reason? When drafting on the turn, those teams tend to reach rather than take the best value available. (See Joc in round 2/3...sorry Joc). The owner has this worst case scenario fear that there won't be any worthy XXXXX(#3 RB)XXXX players left after 20+ picks. They often take at least one player earlier than he should go by VBD. Use that to your advantage and scoop up the value. Some of my best drafting has come from the 3rd and 10th postion. HTH Not a bad analysis steel boy - I'm not so sure I like these bookends because the distance between picks. I know I reached on Foster, Taylor I can live with. I really don't know if the guys I were eyeing would have been around 22 picks later. Having a top three pick this year is awesome b/c of LT LJ SA - no doubt these guys will singlehandedly win some games for their owners. As for the next rounds, there were soooo many guys I wanted but were all taken . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rye & Leaf 0 Posted July 12, 2006 Apply the reverse if neither has drafted a QB yet going into round 7. Your target QB is still there, but you wanted to take him in round 8. Here you are @ 7 and you know at least one if not both of these guys are going QB here. Your gem pick is at risk, so you snag him. It also helps "egg them on" to take a QB as their fear of no decent QBs being there next time heightens. That leaves only 2 picks from WR, RB, TE... before your next pick. You probaly just got the QB you wanted and an equal value player at the other position. Gotta watch out for this. Try not to target players as much as you target value...But as steel basically said, start the picking trends, don't find yourself at the end of them. Also, never at any point let yourself think you are having a great draft mid way through. Stay focused and keep the pedal to the floor. Taylor I can live with. You didn't reach on Taylor. On him you got value. He usually goes sooner in mocks I have seen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoloMatisse 0 Posted July 12, 2006 I disagree with Taylor being a value pick. He's not done much in 4 years in the league, he's making a switch to turf, and he's already reportedly out of shape with a team that doesnt produce big rushing #s....known for slinging the ball ....with a new coach coming over from a team that led the league in passing attempts per game. Taylor was not a 'value' that high. Lamont Jordan, the guy Taylor owners LOVE to compare Taylor to, was going MUCH later in drafts last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted July 12, 2006 Oh yea, I AM STARTING Foster week #1 ahead of taylor just to prove a point on how good this guy is going to be. I picked up taylor a couple years ago when Lewis went down and I think he started for like 4 games. Well, he didn't do shiet and looked slow to the holes. I'm not sold on Taylor, but took him because of the O-line and goaline carries. I do like Foster, the possibilities, and upside. Anybody want to trade for Taylor? Looking for a good wr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rye & Leaf 0 Posted July 12, 2006 I disagree with Taylor being a value pick. He's not done much in 4 years in the league, he's making a switch to turf, and he's already reportedly out of shape with a team that doesnt produce big rushing #s....known for slinging the ball ....with a new coach coming over from a team that led the league in passing attempts per game. Taylor was not a 'value' that high. Lamont Jordan, the guy Taylor owners LOVE to compare Taylor to, was going MUCH later in drafts last year. Taylor may have been a bit out of shape when he reported but he has been working out at the Vikings facility every day since. He will be a beast, especially in ppr. As for Jordan, he didn't fall past second round in any of the drafts I was in last year. Anybody want to trade for Taylor? Looking for a good wr Just a couple days ago, you were telling us how great your receivers were. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted July 12, 2006 Taylor may have been a bit out of shape when he reported but he has been working out at the Vikings facility every day since. He will be a beast, especially in ppr. As for Jordan, he didn't fall past second round in any of the drafts I was in last year. Just a couple days ago, you were telling us how great your receivers were. I'm looking to upgrade my receivers:) to the elite status Damn you sweetness - I was taking Bennett 100% with that next pick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sweetness_34 0 Posted July 12, 2006 Clash - you lazy fat fock.....update the team picks you brainless bastage (or else I will pick someone with my 19th pick who has already been picked) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ellisonb11 0 Posted July 12, 2006 I'm looking to upgrade my receivers:) to the elite status i see we have bashed u enough for u to understand ur wrs are weak....thats good, the first step is admitting the problem, and u finally did it sweetness picking before the 12 hour time limit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted July 12, 2006 Clash - you lazy fat fock.....update the team picks you brainless bastage (or else I will pick someone with my 19th pick who has already been picked) Clash has vanished as usual. His update is like from 3 rounds ago - Tighten up clash it July 11th and we are less than 2 months away from d-day! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sweetness_34 0 Posted July 12, 2006 I'm looking to upgrade my receivers to the elite status Damn you sweetness - I was taking Bennett 100% with that next pick Step 1: Sweetness picks Bennett in 18th round Step 2: KC trades for Bennett Step 3: Larry J gets injured and breaks leg for rest of the year in preseason Step 4: jocstrap starts taking depression pills Step 5: Sweetness does the victory dance Step 6: Sweetness wins the focking league by a mile trashing everyone in the process Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rye & Leaf 0 Posted July 12, 2006 Step 1: Sweetness picks Bennett in 18th round Step 2: KC trades for Bennett Step 3: Larry J gets injured and breaks leg for rest of the year in preseason Step 4: jocstrap starts taking depression pills Step 5: Sweetness does the victory dance Step 6: Sweetness wins the focking league by a mile trashing everyone in the process 2006 Michael Bennett - 1737 yards rushing 57 catches 450 yards receving 30tds 2006 Tommy Maddox - 5000 passing yards I like the pick. I thought I had him. Wish his name didnt appear so much on the main bored.....really doesnt deserve all the attention it is getting these days...really doesnt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steel City Blues 0 Posted July 12, 2006 Step 1: Sweetness picks Bennett in 18th round Step 2: KC trades for Bennett Step 3: Larry J gets injured and breaks leg for rest of the year in preseason Step 4: jocstrap starts taking depression pills Step 5: Sweetness does the victory dance Step 6: Sweetness wins the focking league by a mile trashing everyone in the process Step 7: Sweetness is the sammich between those Carolina cheerleaders making out in a trendy club restroom. Step 8: Sweetness buys Scooter's WCOFF team and wins the trophy from the 10 hole. Step 9: Sweetness wakes up in an ally behind a fern bar shaking off a mickey & too sore to sit down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted July 12, 2006 Unless the WCOFF is ppr, I wouldn't go Wr in the second.... I thought of a couple more things, most of which you probably know, but maybe not: Load up on RBs and WRs that are great value picks like mason, housh, evans, because of your position, forget about the big names. You can probably get A johnson or J Walker (maybe even Chambers) in the 3rd or 4th. When you draft, always pick the best player available, not always catering to what your team needs. IF you keep winning this battle, someone else is losing. If you gain value in every round, by the end of the draft, you will have a great team. And as for picking backups, don't just draft someone who gets reps, pick someone who if the situation was right they would make a huge impact, like L johnson last year, or w Mcgahee the year before. I know you like him, but drafting guys like Barlow will do nothing for your team. Just random thoughts. Oh, I agree. And it is PPR, so a guy like SSmith or Larry Fitz is going to net me about 311 points by my projections, whereas a RB like Caddy will have about 240. I'd much rather take the value of the #1 stud WR than the weak sauce of a tail end of the run RB Players I'm targeting: 1.10 Rudi Johnson (not a receiver, so he'll likely slide) /Ronnie Brown (I fear the hype will boost him) 2.03 Larry Fitz/Steve Smith/TO 3.10 Addai/Droughns/Dunn/FWParker/Best WR available if a value falls Andre Johnson 4th Cedric Benson 5th Javon Walker 6th That's so far. I think stacking up guys like that and maximizing on value every pick is going to be the key. I don't know if I can win all the marbles with a 10 spot pick, but I am pretty sure I will compete for my league title. I feel like I can play with the best of them when I'm relatively sober at a draft. I would love a Rudi/Fitz 1-2 or a Rudi-Westbrook, but I don't know if I'll have a chance. Hell, in a PPR a Westbrook-Fitz combo could be pretty stout if Westy can stay healthy. Ok, here are some subway wall scribblings about drafting 10th. If found it mildly amusing that I picked 10th in this draft because the 10 hole has produced well in my main $ league. Good value tends to slip to that slot after the "predictable" first 2 rounds. True, you don't have the luxury of taking TJones/Benson or Rhodes/Addai. You get something better IMO. One of the keys is to get a feel for who the 11 & 12 drafters will take on the turn. Maybe they both drafted top 5 TE on the 5/6 turn. Round nine is here and a run on TE has you nervous with only 1 worthy starter left on the board and 2 WR a tier above the rest. Team 11 & 12 are thin at WR because they took a top TE early. You can play the odds those teams won't take a b/u TE which is your best VBD player and pluck a > WR that wouldn't make it back to you out of the deal. Usually works great if you have the stones. Apply the reverse if neither has drafted a QB yet going into round 7. Your target QB is still there, but you wanted to take him in round 8. Here you are @ 7 and you know at least one if not both of these guys are going QB here. Your gem pick is at risk, so you snag him. It also helps "egg them on" to take a QB as their fear of no decent QBs being there next time heightens. That leaves only 2 picks from WR, RB, TE... before your next pick. You probaly just got the QB you wanted and an equal value player at the other position. Another reason? When drafting on the turn, those teams tend to reach rather than take the best value available. (See Joc in round 2/3...sorry Joc). The owner has this worst case scenario fear that there won't be any worthy XXXXX(#3 RB)XXXX players left after 20+ picks. They often take at least one player earlier than he should go by VBD. Use that to your advantage and scoop up the value. Some of my best drafting has come from the 3rd and 10th postion. HTH This write up sounds like you crawled into my brain and captured all of my drafting strategies near the turn. This is exactly the stuff I look for in drafts - when there's a huge draft board it's very helpful. But I appreciate the reminders - it's always good to keep everything basic. I admit that I have been so giddy in a high draft position that I slacked off a little...it's easy to think, "eeeh, I have Tomlinson, so I can relax". I'm starting to think drafting 10th could be a blessing as it'll put me on my game. Tension and pressure make you sharp and all that. I was actually just venting last night...I'm still a little irritated. coul be worse...I could be 8th. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rye & Leaf 0 Posted July 12, 2006 Hell, in a PPR a Westbrook-Fitz combo could be pretty stout Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted July 12, 2006 What is a PPR? Now that is possibly the funniest thing I've said all year! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted July 12, 2006 Lamont Jordan, the guy Taylor owners LOVE to compare Taylor to, was going MUCH later in drafts last year. What the heck are you talking about? LaMont Jordan went in the late 2nd in every league I was in last year, including IDP leagues. I think you just don't like CTaylor. It's a tip that they didn't pay the guy a 5 million dollar bonus and upgrade the O-Line because they were confident in Fason or Moore. They went out and gave Taylor a 5 mil bonus because they believe he can be a complete feature back. I think in taking him at 2.12 you fail to maximize his value, but you still get a guy at the end of the 2nd who will potentially perform as well as any other RB2 with upside for more. When CTaylor got his chances in Baltimore, they had a lousy passing game, and the O-Line was not what it was then Jamal got his 2000 yards. please stop pointing to this as the reason that CT is going to fail, because you're being silly. IMO, Taylor is going to be a great value in the early 3rd, and I am seriously ticked that I got my 10th overall mainly because of this. So what's the deal solo, you have Moore in a keeper league or something? Your enthusiasm for ripping on Chester Taylor is pretty apparent. There's no way he would have made it back to Joc, so maybe he had to reach....I'd say by about 3 picks. Is that really that bad? Are you saying he's a total bust based on a handful of carries in Baltimore? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steel City Blues 0 Posted July 12, 2006 Gotta watch out for this. Try not to target players as much as you target value...But as steel basically said, start the picking trends, don't find yourself at the end of them. Also, never at any point let yourself think you are having a great draft mid way through. Stay focused and keep the pedal to the floor. You are 100% correct sir. I do project a few players that should be avail each round like Scooter is piecing together now. Guys that I think will provide the best value to my team each round. That doesn't mean I pass on better talent because the targeted player is there. Some examples in this draft: Picks 3.10/4.03: I didn't think Wayne would be there in round 3. I wanted to take one of Dunn/FWP/Droughns. Only Droughns was left With the 11 & 12 guys both taking 2 RB, I knew there was ZERO chance of getting Wayne in round 4. I guessed (incorrectly) that they would take 1 RB between them (2 absolute most). RB left were Droughns/Dillon/KJ... I could live with worst case, but got lucky & Droughns was there. I also didn't project taking Brees where I got him, but I see him as excellent value there. I think I took him in lieu of a top TE (was 3/4 decided to roll the dice on Watson/Hilton/Troupe anyhow). Later I knew I was taking Watson on the return pick. Great VBD value plus I was committed since he shouldn't make it back to me again. I also knew this was my last chance to get Ryan Moats to back up Westy. Then the picks got closer. Please take Kevin Curtis...please take Kevin Curtis....doh! He fell to me. Ace has already sent me a trade offer of Moats for Fitz, WSID? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoloMatisse 0 Posted July 12, 2006 What the heck are you talking about? LaMont Jordan went in the late 2nd in every league I was in last year, including IDP leagues. I think you just don't like CTaylor. It's a tip that they didn't pay the guy a 5 million dollar bonus and upgrade the O-Line because they were confident in Fason or Moore. They went out and gave Taylor a 5 mil bonus because they believe he can be a complete feature back. I think in taking him at 2.12 you fail to maximize his value, but you still get a guy at the end of the 2nd who will potentially perform as well as any other RB2 with upside for more. When CTaylor got his chances in Baltimore, they had a lousy passing game, and the O-Line was not what it was then Jamal got his 2000 yards. please stop pointing to this as the reason that CT is going to fail, because you're being silly. IMO, Taylor is going to be a great value in the early 3rd, and I am seriously ticked that I got my 10th overall mainly because of this. So what's the deal solo, you have Moore in a keeper league or something? Your enthusiasm for ripping on Chester Taylor is pretty apparent. There's no way he would have made it back to Joc, so maybe he had to reach....I'd say by about 3 picks. Is that really that bad? Are you saying he's a total bust based on a handful of carries in Baltimore? My family is FROM Baltimore. Ive seen every game that team has played for the past 10 years....therefore Ive seen every game Chester Taylor has played in his career, and Im telling you it is wishful thinking. The guy is NOT that good. But hey, he's your find, so have fun with him. ...and thank god Michael Bennett got taken , so I didnt have to agonize over potentially drafting that worthless POS........now, I can take a backup kicker or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted July 12, 2006 My family is FROM Baltimore. Ive seen every game that team has played for the past 10 years....therefore Ive seen every game Chester Taylor has played in his career, and Im telling you it is wishful thinking. The guy is NOT that good. But hey, he's your find, so have fun with him. he's not my find - he's a starting RB on the Vikings. And I dare say that it's a better O-Line than the one CT ran behind, and with a potentially more balanced offense. I'm bullish on him as a RB2 - not saying he's the next coming of LT2...but I think you severely underrate him. I've seen him play plenty as well - and I've seen him hit the hole hard, make some nice gains on receptions out of the backfield and show good open field quickness. I guess I just don't see what there is to be down on him for. He'll have his chance to start and we'll all know if he's the real deal or not. Not like I have a chance at him in any league... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted July 12, 2006 I see I'm a couple picks away - I'll be able to make those around 2:15 cst today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoloMatisse 0 Posted July 12, 2006 I see I'm a couple picks away - I'll be able to make those around 2:15 cst today. We'll have Marshall Faulk and Jimmy Smith waiting for you big guy......now, go smack some balls around............ Scoot, its good to know that you as a San Fran homer have atleast a little bit of a stake in how Alex Smith will come along......makes me feel not quite as crappy about my Bryant pick.....damn, did I just say 'crappy'??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted July 12, 2006 Scoot, its good to know that you as a San Fran homer have atleast a little bit of a stake in how Alex Smith will come along......makes me feel not quite as crappy about my Bryant pick.....damn, did I just say 'crappy'??? Nah - I just felt like wasting a pick lik eyou did with Lelie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted July 12, 2006 Checking in - I'll be available at 7:30 cst to make my picks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoloMatisse 0 Posted July 13, 2006 God bless you, Jocstrap! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted July 13, 2006 God bless you, Jocstrap! What's the meaning behing this? Did I not pick the obvious choice here? Answer me young one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoloMatisse 0 Posted July 13, 2006 What's the meaning behing this? Did I not pick the obvious choice here? Answer me young one I thought I just heard you sneeze??...... no obvious picks. Just one I thought youd pull because weve been using the same mag as a guideline........although Ive bought about 5 others since the start of this thing......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ellisonb11 0 Posted July 13, 2006 joc, ill be the first in this league to say that u did something good. i was thinking about drafting the jags a while back.... along time ago. they were solid last year, and were missing donovan darius. also, they just acquired brian williams, another solid corner to go opposite rashean mathis, solid pick joc! yes, i said u did something good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoloMatisse 0 Posted July 13, 2006 I like Jacksonville's D, too. But they dont get a nice matchup imo until week 5, and they dont get either Tennessee or Houston, the two division doormats, until week 7. Dallas, Pittsburgh, Indy and Washington to open the season??....man, thats tough. I remember they had kindof a cake schedule last year. Obviously thats not the case to start out the season this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted July 13, 2006 I like Jacksonville's D, too. But they dont get a nice matchup imo until week 5, and they dont get either Tennessee or Houston, the two division doormats, until week 7. Dallas, Pittsburgh, Indy and Washington to open the season??....man, thats tough. I remember they had kindof a cake schedule last year. Obviously thats not the case to start out the season this year. Dallas - they could possibly knock drew out, stuff the run and keep dallas under 14 points Pitt- Stuff the run, low scoring, which wr's are going to hurt them? Indy- Pass, pass , pass - great opportunity to intercept and run one back Washington - most likely the most balaced offense yet a qb that is slow as a fat boy This is a very very good defense. I was targeting these guys all along and am very excited that they were not picked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoloMatisse 0 Posted July 13, 2006 Im very excited about my prediction that Jacksonville will more than likely start out 1-3 IF theyre lucky. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted July 13, 2006 Im very excited about my prediction that Jacksonville will more than likely start out 1-3 IF theyre lucky. FF today has Jax def ranked#2 and my FF magazine has them ranked #5 . They might start out 1-3, but I don't think so. More like 3 and 1 or 2 and 2 . Stable Qb the starter for a while now, proven rb's that can and will do the job, wr's probably their weakest link, but a coach that is one of the best in my opinion. Fred Taylor is still a stud and will burn you if you don't watch out. Their defense is flat out nasty. We will see though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoloMatisse 0 Posted July 13, 2006 Leftwich is anything BUT a stable QB. He is the most immobile QB in the league, and thats saying alot considering Manning and Bledsoe also play QB, and he's been nothing but overhyped ever since he entered the league. This is a pressure year for him. And I think he's coming up small. Like I said.....1-3. It wont have any impact on your fantasy D, but Im just saying theyre coming out of the gate straight into a stiff headwind. New England exposed the real Jaguars team in that 28-3 playoff drubbing that could have been much worse had the Patriots not called off the dogs. and its really tough to go off of rankings for Ds, like I said a couple of weeks ago. Last year, Baltimore and New England were pretty much the consensus #1 and 2, and that didnt work out too well. So throw the D rankings out the window. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted July 13, 2006 Leftwich is anything BUT a stable QB. He is the most immobile QB in the league, and thats saying alot considering Manning and Bledsoe also play QB, and he's been nothing but overhyped ever since he entered the league. This is a pressure year for him. And I think he's coming up small. Like I said.....1-3. It wont have any impact on your fantasy D, but Im just saying theyre coming out of the gate straight into a stiff headwind. New England exposed the real Jaguars team in that 28-3 playoff drubbing that could have been much worse had the Patriots not called off the dogs.and its really tough to go off of rankings for Ds, like I said a couple of weeks ago. Last year, Baltimore and New England were pretty much the consensus #1 and 2, and that didnt work out too well. So throw the D rankings out the window. ... then why did I wait til the 19th freakin' round? Why don't you dog the 10 other defenses that went before me? Hell you took a kicker 6 rounds ago. What are the odds of Neil Rackers being the #1 kicker again this year after he was taken in the last round of most drafts in 2005? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoloMatisse 0 Posted July 13, 2006 ... then why did I wait til the 19th freakin' round? Why don't you dog the 10 other defenses that went before me? Hell you took a kicker 6 rounds ago. What are the odds of Neil Rackers being the #1 kicker again this year after he was taken in the last round of most drafts in 2005? hey, Im not dogging your choice of D. Im just saying the team will likely open up with a tough set of games early on. in the 19th round, its a nice pick. And I took Rackers because he kicks a ton of 40 and 50yarders and probably has the strongest leg in the league, and that wont change based on schedule.....and you cant play musical kickers like you can musical Ds. Im not into picking up new kickers every week. But I guarantee you Ill use 4 or 5 different Ds throughout the season based on matchups. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted July 13, 2006 hey, Im not dogging your choice of D. Im just saying the team will likely open up with a tough set of games early on. in the 19th round, its a nice pick. And I took Rackers because he kicks a ton of 40 and 50yarders and probably has the strongest leg in the league, and that wont change based on schedule.....and you cant play musical kickers like you can musical Ds. Im not into picking up new kickers every week. But I guarantee you Ill use 4 or 5 different Ds throughout the season based on matchups. Better to play the great teams early than later on in the season when they have hit their stride. I'm not big on defenses either, and like you, I might swap around. I'm just very happy I get to start the season with these guys - - and no I don't like leftwich, but at least he's been the starter for a few years now. Good conversation, but I'm going to hit the sack. Thanks again solo for setting this thing up, it's been a blast! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rye & Leaf 0 Posted July 13, 2006 Ive bought about 5 others since the start of this thing......... and hows that working out for you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted July 13, 2006 I also thought the JAX pick was a good one. I near took them twice, then settled on the Bucs. Now I got the other D I was targeting, so thanks for the JAX pick. I looked but didn't see WASH picked yet...correct me if I'm wrong, please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clash of the Titans 1 Posted July 13, 2006 I also thought the JAX pick was a good one. I near took them twice, then settled on the Bucs. Now I got the other D I was targeting, so thanks for the JAX pick. I looked but didn't see WASH picked yet...correct me if I'm wrong, please. the skinnies' defense was picked a while back by " my dixie weekend " Share this post Link to post Share on other sites