Draft almost done: big 4 WR team, screw the RBs

[thorshammer 0]

Ok, we are about done with the draft. To recap, Auction draft $400 cap, WCOFF scoring, PPR, 4pts passing TD. start 2RBS, 3WRs, and 1 Flex RB/WR plus 1QB, 1TE. 1 K, 1Def. So I went with the 4 WR and 2 RB thing. Heres how my team turned out...I have 1 guy left to draft (probably a WR).

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Brees, Drew NOS QB - 7 $4

McNair, Steve BAL QB - 7 $3

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Betts, Ladell WAS RB - 8 $3

Davenport, Najeh GBP RB - 6 $3

Duckett, T.J. ATL RB - 5 $10

Green, Ahman GBP RB - 6 $18

Henry, Travis TEN RB - 7 $1

Houston, Cedric NYJ RB - 9 $2

Martin, Curtis NYJ RB - 9 $23

Staley, Duce PIT RB - 4 $4

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Holt, Torry STL WR - 7 $77

Johnson, Chad CIN WR - 5 $78

Moss, Randy OAK WR - 3 $53

Owens, Terrell DAL WR - 3 $83

Jenkins, Michael ATL WR - 5 $

 

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Gonzalez, Tony KCC TE - 3 $23

Kinney, Erron TEN TE - 7 $1

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Tynes, Lawrence KCC PK - 3 $1

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Dolphins, Miami MIA Def - 8 $2

 

 

OK, so where did I screw up? Almost everyone here is a RB guy so how about some feedback? This is a money league so hopefully there are not any idiots around. What do you think about going opposite of the norm?

[VaTerp 0]

Tough to comment w/o knowing your scoring system but IMO . . .

 

You are Extremely weak at RB and QB.

 

Your Wr will keep you competitive but you have no chance to win your league.

 

[Kitsnow 0]

bye week problems.

moss/TO

jenkens/the chad

 

like the qb deals.

[thorshammer 0]

Tough to comment w/o knowing your scoring system but IMO . . .

 

You are Extremely weak at RB and QB.

 

Your Wr will keep you competitive but you have no chance to win your league.

 

hmm...didnt read the WCOFF rules part? new to FF?

 

bye week problems.

moss/TO

jenkens/the chad

 

like the qb deals.

 

yah, the bye week is a problem but I will get 3 of my big guns done in that 1 week. I have Jenkins and a scrub to fill in then...probably take a loss that week but will knock out several bye's all at once and maybe only lose that one week instead of 2 or 3. cool that you saw that though.....

[ratbastard1 0]

Absolutely use your pick on a QB even if its Boller.

 

I think your strategy surprisingly holds merit. How quick you figure out the QB and RB slots will make or break your season. Trading might come your way early too.

 

Make sure to update this after the season.

 

One thing to note is you have some very tradeable and even playable middle-lower tier RBs right now. If i were you i might look for an owner with a need for depth and upgrade to a higher ranked guy. Ex: Green and Staly for a less risky RB whose someones #3 behind 2 studs.

 

Good luck.

[jocstrap 8]

No seriously where are your running backs?

 

and you spent all that money for one of those big boys to ride the each week . Moss on the bench - ha - nice strategy that is. Or even better yet...wait wait... I'm going to bench TO this week b/c he has a bad math-up and start Holt, Cj, and Moss. Wait no I'm going to sit Holt this week so I can start Moss, CJ, & Owens . No but really you could just sit CJ to start the three above!

 

OOHHHHH - - Ok I see you will use them all in your FLEX position and just THROW BLANKS at the running back spots . Ugh

 

 

No seriously, what running backs are you going to use?

[thorshammer 0]

No seriously where are your running backs?

 

and you spent all that money for one of those big boys to ride the each week . Moss on the bench - ha - nice strategy that is. Or even better yet...wait wait... I'm going to bench TO this week b/c he has a bad math-up and start Holt, Cj, and Moss. Wait no I'm going to sit Holt this week so I can start Moss, CJ, & Owens . No but really you could just sit CJ to start the three above!

 

OOHHHHH - - Ok I see you will use them all in your FLEX position and just THROW BLANKS at the running back spots . Ugh

No seriously, what running backs are you going to use?

ummm..... reread the top post/rules...i will start all 4 Big WRs.....and only 2 RBs. As stated, I wanted to do something different and NOT draft the top RBs. (they went for too much money in this auction) I know that I will lose on the RB matchups but the question is, will my stud WRs and (maybe) TE make-up for the RB depth? I just didnt want to draft a middle of the road team with "OK" RBs.

[thorshammer 0]

take one second to say yah or neh......lookin for some feedback

[gocolts 300]

I will go down saying you will kick a$$ each week.You will kill with those WR.

 

You may get lucky and get a crazy offer for one of WR early in the season when someone gets desprate after starting out bad.

 

I am a beliver in the stud WR theroy.I have used it with great results.

[adam smitty 0]

Amazing wrs, good qbs but that RB corp is close to a joke. Might not matter though with you starting those 4 wrs. I would still try trading one of them for a top RB.

[superskin#99 0]

I love it. In a PPR league you have 5 guys who will catch 90+ balls, that is HUGE! The QBs are a bit of a gamble, but the main problem I see is that you only have 2 RBs who start. The Betts pickup was brilliant, maybe you can trade with Portis' owner for one his depth RBs who start. But definitely keep your big 5 together.

[Ryan166 0]

Looks good. Report back during the season, I'm curius if your strategy will work or not.

[texasmouth 1]

Is WCOFF a PPR point system?

 

If it is, this line up is going to smoke pretty much anyone. Don't care if your running backs suck. I won 11 games last season with Julius/MB3 and Mike Anderson as my two backs because I had the same thing as you, four strong WR but mine dont hold a candle to yours! I had Kurt Warner and Kyle Boller as my QB (After I lost McNabb).

 

I had Steve Smith, Lav Coles, Anquan Boldin, Rod Smith.

 

 

Nasty line up. Way to go against the grain.

 

Just out of curiosity, how much did Fitz, Steve Smith, and Boldin go for?

[ellisonb11 0]

great WR corps, but ur RBs do scare me....but even with a weak bunch of RBs, ur stud WRs could carry ur team easily. i would look to grab a trade later in the year to secure the RB position

[Kellys Heroes 0]

Betts, Ladell WAS RB - 8 $3

Davenport, Najeh GBP RB - 6 $3

Duckett, T.J. ATL RB - 5 $10

Green, Ahman GBP RB - 6 $18

Henry, Travis TEN RB - 7 $1

Houston, Cedric NYJ RB - 9 $2

Martin, Curtis NYJ RB - 9 $23

Staley, Duce PIT RB - 4 $4

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Holt, Torry STL WR - 7 $77

Johnson, Chad CIN WR - 5 $78

Moss, Randy OAK WR - 3 $53

Owens, Terrell DAL WR - 3 $83

Jenkins, Michael ATL WR - 5 $

 

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Gonzalez, Tony KCC TE - 3 $23

Kinney, Erron TEN TE - 7 $1

 

I tried a similar thing last year. The only problem was when 1 of those wr get hurt; you'll be hurting all season. hope that Green and Martin stay health bt thats going to drive you crazy.

U could of saved some Money on Gonzo and spent it on a RB.

[krizay 0]

It's not all that bad. If it was me trying this theory. I would've went with 3 big WR's a nd 1 middle of the road RB. Then another middle of the road WR. In a ppr league. You may be alright if you get lucky with 1 or 2 of your RB's.

 

Also both of your QB's have a week 7 bye!

[BostonRedSox 0]

take one second to say yah or neh......lookin for some feedback

 

Ney....but even though money may be involved, FF for me is always about fun first. thinking about going against the norm and following through...it should be fun...even if you dont win. besides you can always trade one of you r big 4 for a RB.

[esoitl 0]

i like it

for some reason even in non PPR leagues in the past i stocked up on WRs....

with PPR you should do pretty solid

 

i love the Brees/McNair situation at QB although you should have went with a different bye

Green/Martin is another nice feature... both should return to form somewhat and put up good numbers

 

i dont like Gonzo though

i just did all my TE rankings last night and there are so many that i see with value very similar to Gonzo that you could have spent less and boosted one of the other slots

[thorshammer 0]

I got stuck on a bumper bid on Gonzo. He was not part of the master plan. But you never know, he could return to stud form and compete with Gates for the top spot.

 

:alsomonkeyscouldflyoutofmybutt:

[unckeyherb 2]

I will say, you've got big balls pal. I actually think this could play out huge for you. You drafted what could easily be the top 4 WR in the league. I like Gonzo as he won't be held back and blocking as much as he did last year. McNair could blow up this year and be a helluva buy at $3. Sorry to say you're RB's are beyond 'the suck'. I do like that you handcuffed both your starters and took Betts. All in all you will at least have an interesting season. I would be interested to get some up dates throughout the season.

 

Also, any chance of posting the other teams.

[thorshammer 0]

I will say, you've got big balls pal. I actually think this could play out huge for you. You drafted what could easily be the top 4 WR in the league. I like Gonzo as he won't be held back and blocking as much as he did last year. McNair could blow up this year and be a helluva buy at $3. Sorry to say you're RB's are beyond 'the suck'. I do like that you handcuffed both your starters and took Betts. All in all you will at least have an interesting season. I would be interested to get some up dates throughout the season.

 

Also, any chance of posting the other teams.

Ok, I will post some of the other 'interesting' teams:

 

this guy got stuck with a bunch of mid level guys

 

Bulger, M

Palmer, C

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Bennett, M

Benson, C (has a bid on T. Jones)

Brown, R

Moore, M

Suggs, L Jones, M

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Moss, S

Parker, E

Williams, R

Williamson, T

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Lewis, M

McMichael, R

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Rackers, N

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Seahawks, S

 

This owner grabbed LT and LJ!!!! **********************

 

Carr, D

Leftwich, B

Simms, C

Young, V

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Fisher, T

Goings, N

Johnson, L

Rhodes, D

Tomlinson, L

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Edwards, B

Hall, D

McCardell, K

Patten, D

Porter, J

Randle El, A

*Clark, D

Graham, D

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Feely, J

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Redskins, W

Steelers, P

 

This owner has a solid team. ******

 

Griese, B

Manning, E

Rivers, P

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Addai, J

Dillon, C

Faulk, M

McGahee, W

Parker, W

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Clayton, M

Clayton, M

Jackson, C

Kennison, E

Mason, D

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Heap, T

Stevens, J

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Vinatieri, A

Wilkins, J

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Bears, C

Patriots, N

[Erb047 0]

Was this a keeper league or something???

 

I love the WRs and I actually think those RBs are not as bad as people make them out to be. You've got Cmart and handcuff in CHouston, who I think will both do alot better than what people are saying, and you've got a couple sleeper candidates in Duce Staley and Ahman Green. Everybodys forgetting those names fast. You've got alot of potential in the RBs but you need to get lucky with some injuries for them to pan out.

 

 

As far as the QBs goes, im not liking them both. I took McNair in my other league but I will hope he stays healthy. Brees, im not too fond of with him coming off his injury...but he's got the talent to succeed.

 

Overall I actually think it may be the QB situation that kills you, moreso than the RB situation...

[nygiants 0]

I love it. I'm sick of people talking about how important RB's are...the amateurs will look at your team and say you screwed up because you don't have 1 stud RB. Those of us veterans who know how to crunch the numbers will say you will dominate with that team in PPR. WR's are just as important and you have 4 studs. What happened to S.Smith...couldn't snag him? Replace Moss with Smith and you probably couldn't lose. Still, a great team.

[Soggy Bottom Boys 0]

and only 2 RBs

 

Yeah ......... but dude you don't HAVE 2 RB's to start. its like you're starting 7 guys against a team starting 9 guys - your RB's are THAT pathetic

 

I don't care how good 4 players are on your team, you will not win playing with a -2 RB handi-cap

[Franknbeans 46]

Good Luck in 2007

[thorshammer 0]

Good Luck in 2007

really? no chance at all?

[shadow2k 0]

Wow, your RB's are horrid. I guess Martin would be your hopeful #1 if he doesn't keel over before the opener. And maybe Duckett as the #2, hoping for a few goal line carries. And then praying desperately for some injuries.

 

Since you start 3WR AND a Flex (is that normal?) in a PPR league, you might be ok. I think your QB's will be alright as well. But honestly, I'd be worried about Owens and Moss. Having to rely on one or the other as one of your studs is ok. But having to rely on both just would scare me. While they both have huge potential...they aren't exactly the pillars of reliability. Not to mention that receivers are just naturally a bit less dependable in terms of consistency from week to week.

 

I think you might end up with decent total points, and a few huge games. But it's impossible to say anything more without knowing how many teams are in the league, and how playoff spots are determined. I think you'd be better off with a total points system, rather than H2H records. Mainly because I think you'll have lots of highs and lows...inconsistent week to week.

[Kitsnow 0]

Like I said Even if your strategy is good.. and it might be. You will have to accept some losses due to random nature.. but when you couple this with your terrible terrible bye weeks you might not make the cut.

 

if you are going to do an interresting strategy like this please be aware of bye weeks.

[9-Route 0]

as the consummate wr backer on this board, i obviously think you did well.

 

moss, TO, cj, holt, gonzo.......wow!!

 

[the only thing sicker would be moss/TO/fitz/boldin/gates ]

[LunaTick 30]

RB, if you are only going to start 2, is going to be very problematic depending upon how these guys shakes out.

 

IF the old vets all step up and return to their former glory. Who do you start.

If they hobbled but playing.

If they are being transitioned.

If they are inconsistent.

 

But I am more concerned at QB.

Brees is very good qb, but how will he fit in NO>

McNair, what if he is injured again. Doesn't win the starters roll. Or BAL returns to mediocrity again this season.

 

Get yourself a hedge elsewhere at qb wherever you can.

 

Sure you can take another rb.

 

But then you will likely drop one of them for the best diamond in the roughest rough qb to fill your neds.

[BlackPlague 1]

With FF, you never know what's going to happen until it happens...but I would have definitely got at least 1 of the consensus top 10 RBs instead of 1 of your WRs. RBs are more consistent scorers with WRs being a bit more feast or famine. I would have been much happier with TO/Moss/CJ + a Lamont Jordan or Ronnie Brown level RB. CMart probably won't kill you at one of the RB slots, but you're likely to take a bunch of goose eggs at the other RB slot.

 

People saying that they think this draft is great because you can just trade a WR later are also not that bright. Unless you are extremely lucky, those types of trades are rare in most leagues. People with those top 10 RBs are going to be hard pressed to give them up and you'll likely end up over paying later in a trade for what you could have had much cheaper in the draft. It just doesn't make sense.

 

I don't have a problem if you're just having fun and trying something new...FF is supposed to be fun. But if you are seriously trying to win your league, I'd start drafting to win instead of drafting to look smarter than everyone else.

[mgs316 14]

I think your team hinges on Martin and Brees. You get good/average years out of them, you might be in business. All you really need is one good RB and your QB to perform well. Or else pray to god Ahman Green isn't a cripple.

[PastorOfMuppets 0]

I love this stategy. Matter of fact, I had the #10 pick in a 10 team redraft last year and took TO and RMoss. Didn't quite pan out (Moss injuries, TO suspension), but ... I was able to come up with Westbrook, Caddy, and LJ ... went 8-5, and lost in the semis.

 

In a PPR league you are GOLDEN. Look, I couldn't give one shaved rat's nutsack about the stud RB thoery. Far as I'm concerned, if you don't get one of the big 3, take your chances elsewhere. What folks need to remember is this ... if each of your big 4 WR's snag 90 catches this year, that's the point equivelant of FIFTEEN TOUCHDOWNS! Add that to the yards and the TD's, and I'd rather have ANY of them over the likes of Rudi, MaGahee, JLewis, Dillon ... in a PPR league I wouldn't touch ANY RB that is not proficient out of the backfield. Hell, I'd take Westbrook or RBush or even CTaylor over the 4 stiffs I mentioned earlier.

 

Bye weeks will hurt, but everyone has 'em. Any chance of you landing Billy Volek? Might be a very cheap option for you as it stands with your QB situation.

 

I love your lineup ... potentially VERY explosive. A ballsy approach, going very much against the grain. Kudos, and much luck this season.

[football_scooter 0]

well, you kind of accomplished your goal, but I doubt you'll compete with that team.

 

you need at least one competent RB and I don't see even that - they aren't just the most rare position, they're the most consistently reliable position.

 

Added to that, you don't have a reliable QB. Brees has a torn rotator cuff to overcome (see: Chad Pennington) and McNair is Captain Questionable.

 

Plus for someone putting all his eggs into one basket with the WRs, you seem to have overlooked having any kind of depth at the position. It's like you decided to commit to "stud WR" strategy, then panicked and abandoned it to grab every craptastic RB you could get your hands on. That left you with 1 backup WR and a bunch of crappy RBs. So you sort of failed to do what you set out to accomplish. Jenkins will be in your starting lineup a lot more than you'll want him there, and if ANY of the "big 4" get hurt, you're done. I'm not even sure you'll be able to field 4 WRs on some of the big BYEs this year.

 

IMO, your team is think & weak, and will not have any chance whatsoever. FFB championships are built on depth and balance - you have neither. Weeks your RBs let you down, you need WRs to pick you up...weeks WRs let you down, you need RBs to pick you up - I don't see your RBs being able to carry you in those times of need.

 

You might win a few games, but the championship will be an insurmountable hill to climb by week 7.

[Franknbeans 46]

really? no chance at all?

A chance but everything seemingly has to break your way and in that respect, I guess you're no different than any other team. I would say that your margin for error is pretty small. If one of these top receivers doesn't pan out, it leaves a big void in your lineup.

[football_scooter 0]

A chance but everything seemingly has to break your way and in that respect, I guess your no different than any other team. I would say that your margin for error is pretty small. If one of these top receivers doesn't pan out, it leaves a big void in your lineup.

 

sort of like the BYEs are going to do anyway, eh?

 

[uubeee 0]

Don't listen to them. RB's never fall out the way the "experts" say they will, and championships are won on waiver work. Keep your WR's together and look for another starting RB surprise to fill out your roster.

[Franknbeans 46]

It would be interesting to give us updates as the season progresses.

[football_scooter 0]

Don't listen to them. RB's never fall out the way the "experts" say they will, and championships are won on waiver work. Keep your WR's together and look for another starting RB surprise to fill out your roster.

 

Good luck with that, I say.

 

Sometimes RBs do indeed work out. I've had many years with my 1-2 RBs performing exactly up to expectations.

 

Counting on the WW for help is no way to draft. Good luck being in the right place at the right time when a starting RB becomes available. Not exactly a viable draft strategy - especially after last year where LJ showed everyone how important is it to draft handcuffs.

 

In virtually every draft I've seen posted this year (and mocks at Antsports) people are grabbing those handcuffs left & right, so chances are good that when a RB goes down, the handcuff is already spoken for.