Giants Fan 85 Posted July 9, 2006 Accoridng to icasualties.org (a respected news source) coalition forces killed is now more than those killed on 9/11 by all estimates. American forces are the majority of those killed and strictly American forces will also soon surpass the 9/11 numbers. Just FYI. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spottedowl 1 Posted July 9, 2006 Why are you mad? shouldn't you be thankful for a military force that is voluntary? Some countries require military service when a person reaches 18 years of age. The country I live in does not, so... what is your beef? Why do you hate our military so much? I am getting sick and tired of you clueless people speaking for the fighting forces of the United States. If you know better... spill it. If not, let the troops do their jobs and shut the fock up!l Quit whining about the numbers and stop the idiotic protests of fallen troops. For crying out loud, dead soldiers have nothing to do with gays. The military has a job to finish, get out of the way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted July 9, 2006 Some countries require military service when a person reaches 18 years of age. The country I live in does not. Spottedowl is Canadian! It's called "selective service" and I SIGNED UP FOR IT ... biach. Dunno about you, but I had to sign up as a kid, because I started paying taxes then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spottedowl 1 Posted July 9, 2006 Spottedowl is Canadian! It's called "selective service" and I SIGNED UP FOR IT ... biach. Dunno about you, but I had to sign up as a kid, because I started paying taxes then. You are a moron! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted July 9, 2006 You have no social security number then. It's a requirement. DUMBFOCK! "Selective service" ... aka the draft. You can't get a social security number though, without "selective service" forms admitted ... idiot poo brain focktard stupid head! Ever had a job, where you paid taxes? You need a social security number first. Dumbshiat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spottedowl 1 Posted July 9, 2006 You have no social security number then. It's a requirement. DUMBFOCK! Look jackass, I had to sign up for selective service when I turned 18 in 1985. You are a moron, I served in the military for 10 years. How do you figure I have no SSN? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted July 9, 2006 Look jackass, I had to sign up for selective service when I turned 18 in 1985. You are a moron, I served in the military for 10 years. How do you figure I have no SSN? Oh ... so when you said, "Some countries have a voluntary military" ... you were thinking of what ... Mexico? I know people (reserves) that, involuntarily, went to war. If the draft is re-instated ... you signed the selective service form ... you could be drafted. Right? Right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted July 9, 2006 This is quite an Ironic post, coming from some moron who claimed he was there on 9/11. Maybe it's time for you to rehash your accounts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted July 9, 2006 This is quite an Ironic post, coming from some moron who claimed he was there on 9/11. Maybe it's time for you to rehash your accounts. Or maybe it's time for me to punchify your face! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spottedowl 1 Posted July 9, 2006 Oh ... so when you said, "Some countries have a voluntary military" ... you were thinking of what ... Mexico? I know people (reserves) that, involuntarily, went to war. If the draft is re-instated ... you signed the selective service form ... you could be drafted. Right? Right? No you idiot, many European countries require military service from the young people. I do not know any military person (reserves or guard) sent to war involuntarily. They were all volunteers As I said, I would serve my country again, so you can enjoy the deserts of Arizona. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted July 9, 2006 No you idiot, many European countries require military service from the young people. I do not know any military person (reserves or guard) sent to war involuntarily. They were all volunteers As I said, I would serve my country again, so you can enjoy the deserts of Arizona. Hey, you can ask my pledge father ... fall 1990, if he wanted to go to Saudi and drive a fuel truck, Army reserves. He'd prolly prefer to have stayed stateside ... eat ice cream ... but he didn't have a choice. And such is your selective service form. In exchange for your social security number ... whether you realize it or not ... you signed up for THE DRAFT! Dipshiat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crackattack 520 Posted July 9, 2006 Hey, you can ask my pledge father ... fall 1990, if he wanted to go to Saudi and drive a fuel truck, Army reserves. He'd prolly prefer to have stayed stateside ... eat ice cream ... but he didn't have a choice. And such is your selective service form. In exchange for your social security number ... whether you realize it or not ... you signed up for THE DRAFT! Dipshiat. Sorry to jump in, but after serving 4 years for my country, it is by choice. You pledge father did have a choice...he didnt have to join the army reserves. Everyone in the U.S. Military had the choice to stay home and eat ice cream.......just dont sign the dotted line of enlistment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted July 9, 2006 Sorry to jump in, but after serving 4 years for my country, it is by choice. You pledge father did have a choice...he didnt have to join the army reserves. Everyone in the U.S. Military had the choice to stay home and eat ice cream.......just dont sign the dotted line of enlistment. Meh ... close. They could reinstate the draft. CURRENTLY the military is all people that "signed the dotted line." and some that have served, never thought they would go overseas. Didn't want to. Many have served longer than they expected to. My POINT IS ... you become eligible for THE DRAFT, as soon as you fill out your SELECTIVE SERVICE form. That's what it's for. If you didn't know this yet ... well too freaking bad! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spottedowl 1 Posted July 9, 2006 Hey, you can ask my pledge father ... fall 1990, if he wanted to go to Saudi and drive a fuel truck, Army reserves. He'd prolly prefer to have stayed stateside ... eat ice cream ... but he didn't have a choice. And such is your selective service form. In exchange for your social security number ... whether you realize it or not ... you signed up for THE DRAFT! Dipshiat. I am done talking to a clueless moron. Just stay home, smoke your pot, complain about the number of troops who gave their lives to defend your pot smoking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted July 9, 2006 I am done talking to a clueless moron. Just stay home, smoke your pot, complain about the number of troops who gave their lives to defend your pot smoking. Awesome, because I was just gonna do, what I call ... a bonghit for the troops. Let's see ... my great, great grandfather fought for the North in the Civil war. Both my gradfathers were WW2 vets, and one is still living. My great uncle Ralph deciphered the Japanese surrender. My great grandfather was U.S. Secretary of Agriculture ... sorry my number never got drawn ... but I saw war once too. And I'm not talking about the news! Don't get all "high and mighty" with me! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crackattack 520 Posted July 9, 2006 Yes you are right that once you sign the selective service forms you could be drafted. But since we havnt had a draft in what....30 plus years its a mute point. Your entire argument is mute, once I joined I knew I would go overseas, I knew that if there was a war I might have to go, knowing this I still signed the dotted line it was a CHOICE that I MADE, not the government, not the selective service, not Slick Willy, but me. So I guess I dont understand you point other then the whole draft thing. Oh and your number wasnt called cause you didnt call it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted July 9, 2006 I think .. you mean.. the argument is moot. I.E. a "moot point". But yes ... if you are a male U.S. citizen ... you did sign on the bottom line. Already. No draft right now though. Make sense? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crackattack 520 Posted July 9, 2006 I think .. you mean.. the argument is moot. I.E. a "moot point". But yes ... if you are a male U.S. citizen ... you did sign on the bottom line. Already. No draft right now though. Make sense? Yes I understand....I knew it was moot but thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted July 9, 2006 I'm signed up for the M1 Citizen volunteer group ... and if the military ever starts handing out M1s on the street ... I'm on the list. Rather Have an M14? http://www.petitiononline.com/M14CMP03/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jets24 6 Posted July 9, 2006 Wow. Giants Fan is a real idiot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted July 10, 2006 There is no Focking way ANYONE can join ANY part of the service and not KNOW that ,by joining,you are willing to FIGHT and DIE for the country. NO WAY!!! HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted July 10, 2006 My great uncle Ralph deciphered the Japanese surrender. lol First time I have heard of a "surrender" being in secret code. Please give us some details. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,317 Posted July 10, 2006 No you idiot, many European countries require military service from the young people. I do not know any military person (reserves or guard) sent to war involuntarily. They were all volunteers As I said, I would serve my country again, so you can enjoy the deserts of Arizona. IRR recalls weren't volunteers. People held in under stop loss wern't volunteers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted July 10, 2006 You can't get a social security number though, without "selective service" forms admitted Um, I got my SS number in Elementary School and I don't remember submitting "selective service" forms until my 18th birthday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted July 10, 2006 thanks to those who served Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gratefulted 14 Posted July 10, 2006 There is no Focking way ANYONE can join ANY part of the service and not KNOW that ,by joining,you are willing to FIGHT and DIE for the country. NO WAY!!! HTH For the country, sure. Not for that gutless pres. though! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PIK 95 2 Posted July 10, 2006 For the country, sure. Not for that gutless pres. though! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted July 10, 2006 sorry, you are willing to die for everyone.. the gutless, the jeep driving potsmokers..the illegals who are here... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted July 10, 2006 this thread would be much better if it was Moore killed in Iraq...as in Michael Moore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cday 0 Posted July 10, 2006 GFIAFP is a focking liar on this whole selective service deal: http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...t&p=2508239 0wn3d. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D'ohmer Simpson 0 Posted July 10, 2006 More killed in Iraq ..., ... than 9/11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cinciman7 2 Posted July 10, 2006 Less than most battles in WW2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Black Label Society Posted July 10, 2006 Less than most battles in WW2 More americans have been killed in DETROIT than in Iraq during the same time span. Stop whining. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donhaas 18 Posted July 10, 2006 There is no Focking way ANYONE can join ANY part of the service and not KNOW that ,by joining,you are willing to FIGHT and DIE for the country. NO WAY!!! HTH By die for "the country" do you mean "USA" or "ungrateful Iraqis" Soldiers sign up for the military to nobily fight for American freedom, not to go to an Iraqi quagmire based on lies to serve a chickenhawk agenda. HTH! You chickensh!thawks kill me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brick Tamland 0 Posted July 10, 2006 Why are you mad? shouldn't you be thankful for a military force that is voluntary? Some countries require military service when a person reaches 18 years of age. The country I live in does not, so... what is your beef? Why do you hate our military so much? I am getting sick and tired of you clueless people speaking for the fighting forces of the United States. If you know better... spill it. If not, let the troops do their jobs and shut the fock up!l Quit whining about the numbers and stop the idiotic protests of fallen troops. For crying out loud, dead soldiers have nothing to do with gays. The military has a job to finish, get out of the way. I enjoy reading posts and the arguments within so much that I've avoided posting in the past. However, outside of a hillbilly bar, this is the most moronic, non sequitur argument I've ever seen! Many of us are angry that so many lives have been carelessly wasted in Iraq. Your conclusion to this is we must hate the troops??? No, we're angry becasue a lot of young American men and women have died in support of an ideology formulated by neo con chickenhawks in a DC think tank ten years ago. We're angry because these same chickenhawks cherry picked inteligence to scare Americans into a war that has destabilized an already volitile middle east and eroded our moral authority around the world. We're angry that any person who stands up to voice a dissenting opinion is automatically labeled a coward by those in the administration who avoided service when America called. Like many before them, the men and women who protect our freedoms so unselfishly deserve our respect and admiration. It's too bad the only respect and admiration they receive from the current administration is for a well timed photo op... A little man playing soldier in a flight suit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted July 10, 2006 .....A moment of silence and civility for the over 20,000 young men and women who have been killed or wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan. While a nation rages, debates and insults, these brave souls face death, a loss of the basic 'necessities' we take for granted - and extended periods away from the ones they love for no other reason than to serve their country. May God Bless Each and Every One Of You and the familes that love you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isotopes 1 Posted July 10, 2006 I enjoy reading posts and the arguments within so much that I've avoided posting in the past. However, outside of a hillbilly bar, this is the most moronic, non sequitur argument I've ever seen! Many of us are angry that so many lives have been carelessly wasted in Iraq. Your conclusion to this is we must hate the troops??? No, we're angry becasue a lot of young American men and women have died in support of an ideology formulated by neo con chickenhawks in a DC think tank ten years ago. We're angry because these same chickenhawks cherry picked inteligence to scare Americans into a war that has destabilized an already volitile middle east and eroded our moral authority around the world. We're angry that any person who stands up to voice a dissenting opinion is automatically labeled a coward by those in the administration who avoided service when America called. Like many before them, the men and women who protect our freedoms so unselfishly deserve our respect and admiration. It's too bad the only respect and admiration they receive from the current administration is for a well timed photo op... A little man playing soldier in a flight suit. I love lamp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,317 Posted July 10, 2006 More americans have been killed in DETROIT than in Iraq during the same time span. Stop whining. . What kind of Bushsh*t is this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted July 10, 2006 More americans have been killed in DETROIT than in Iraq during the same time span. Stop whining. - Not really sure where you're getting that. Looks like Detroit averages about 360 murders a year. ??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarheel Boy 0 Posted July 10, 2006 GFIAFP is a focking liar on this whole selective service deal: http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...t&p=2508239 0wn3d. Don't worry...his dumbass will try to find some way to squirm his way out of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
