Mike Williams fined over 400K last season

[Sho Nuff 720]

stay on task:

 

1) do you really predict roy williams to have less stats this year than last year (re: your previous post)?

2) what do you PREDICT for the packers this year.

 

it's easy as hell to sit here and say the jello-backed "well, so-and-so hasn't done anything yet and, gee, golly, who knows if he ever will." (nevermind for a moment your lmfao proclamation that roy "hasn't shown ANYTHING yet").

 

you obviously have zero faith in roy, and you think the lions wr are shiat and the lions are shiat. i just want to you to put out here right now for everyone your concrete predictions.

 

this is the second time i'm asking.

 

You ask...but never really give your own?

 

And since this is about Williams and not Roy...how about some other predictions for say...

Roy, Williams, Rogers, Vines, Bradford.

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You ask...but never really give your own?

 

And since this is about Williams and not Roy...how about some other predictions for say...

Roy, Williams, Rogers, Vines, Bradford.

 

i've said if roy williams stays healthy he'll flirt with top-5 numbers this year. what does that translate to with numbers? i don't have the top-5 lists in front of me for the past couple of years...but i think roy doing 1200-1300 and 12+ tds is very realistic having his talent and martz as his oc (again, health being a key).

 

i've said that a couple of times in multiple threads.

 

the #2 and #3 wrs for the lions? i don't have a clue how that will shake out yet and how the depth chart will look. nobody does. i see many making dire pronouncements. i've simply said there to let's see how this season goes before killing off mike williams.

 

oh, btw: i wasn't asking you.

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if the lions cut mike williams, the packers would be the first team to call, followed closely by chicago, with the vikings nipping at their heels.

 

and remote would be doing a when the desperate packers signed mike scant minutes after he was cut.

 

that's pretty much all you need to know about this thread.

 

it can end now

[Let Da Big Dog Eat 42]

i've said if roy williams stays healthy he'll flirt with top-5 numbers this year. what does that translate to with numbers? i don't have the top-5 lists in front of me for the past couple of years...but i think roy doing 1200-1300 and 12+ tds is very realistic having his talent and martz as his oc (again, health being a key).

 

i've said that a couple of times in multiple threads.

 

the #2 and #3 wrs for the lions? i don't have a clue how that will shake out yet and how the depth chart will look. nobody does. i see many making dire pronouncements. i've simply said there to let's see how this season goes before killing off mike williams.

 

oh, btw: i wasn't asking you.

 

Yeah, true but they'd be calling for him to deliver pizza.

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well this explains why he's no good, would you even try if you had to play for free? or in his case...he has to pay them just to be on the team....

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if the lions cut mike williams, the packers would be the first team to call, followed closely by chicago, with the vikings nipping at their heels.

 

and remote would be doing a when the desperate packers signed mike scant minutes after he was cut.

 

that's pretty much all you need to know about this thread.

 

it can end now

 

Packers do need a #7 receiver. Don't think he's worth the headache.

 

[Sho Nuff 720]

if the lions cut mike williams, the packers would be the first team to call, followed closely by chicago, with the vikings nipping at their heels.

 

and remote would be doing a when the desperate packers signed mike scant minutes after he was cut.

 

that's pretty much all you need to know about this thread.

 

it can end now

 

cough....bull....Ted Thompson is in Green Bay...not Millen.

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cough....bull....Ted Thompson is in Green Bay...not Millen.

 

not sure what that point's suppose to prove...about as much as ted thompson has proven as per being a good gm?

 

 

seriously, ted would have mike's agent's phone number on speed dial if mike became available. that wr corps of green bay is a mess.

[Sho Nuff 720]

not sure what that point's suppose to prove...about as much as ted thompson has proven as per being a good gm?

seriously, ted would have mike's agent's phone number on speed dial if mike became available. that wr corps of green bay is a mess.

 

 

That we would not be signing Mike Williams as you are claiming.

 

Thompson has proven what he can do in front office roles. His work in Seattle speaks for itself. Thus far it is too early to tell with Green Bay...but so far I love what he has done.

 

You can keep saying it is a mess...and keep claiming the Lions is fine...will not make it so...no amount of your deflection on this topic will change the fact that there are serious problems in Detroit...you can live in denial and delusion all you want.

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GBs WRs>Lions WRs

Spending mid to late round picks on GBs WRs>>>>>>>Spending 3 1sts for the Lions WRs....

 

 

Reading Swampbutts sad posts about him thinking 1st round potential means better WRs- PRICELESS...

 

 

 

they shoulda just gave us there 1st this year for Walker....I mean he would turn out as their best WR...but then again they wouldn't get the credit for drafting him...

[swirvenirvin 25]

grabbed Rodgers with my last pick in an auction league

ROGERS

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That we would not be signing Mike Williams as you are claiming.

 

Thompson has proven what he can do in front office roles. His work in Seattle speaks for itself. Thus far it is too early to tell with Green Bay...but so far I love what he has done.

 

You can keep saying it is a mess...and keep claiming the Lions is fine...will not make it so...no amount of your deflection on this topic will change the fact that there are serious problems in Detroit...you can live in denial and delusion all you want.

 

lol...dude, it works both ways: you claiming the packers wr corps isn't a mess doesn't magically make it so just because you say so, either.

 

this would be a good place for you to drop it

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if the lions cut mike williams, the packers would be the first team to call, followed closely by chicago, with the vikings nipping at their heels.

 

Wow, he's worthy of being claimed off of the waiver wire a single season after being a top 10 pick and getting a bazillion dollar bonus. That's a real testament to Millen's ability to find talent.

[Mack 1 6]

Wow, he's worthy of being claimed off of the waiver wire a single season after being a top 10 pick and getting a bazillion dollar bonus. That's a real testament to Millen's ability to find talent.

Touche'.

 

[donhaas 19]

if the lions cut mike williams, the packers would be the first team to call, followed closely by chicago, with the vikings nipping at their heels.

 

This is a pretty dumb thing to say, even for you.

Detroit wasted a ton of money on him and a top-10 pick; why wouldn't any of these teams give him a tryout for free? Heck, I hope the Brewers give him a try. He has to be good at something.

 

I've never seen someone so proud that a very recent top-10 pick could be a waiver-wire pick up for a team like the Packers who just lost a pro-bowl receiver.

 

But that is the pysche of a Lions fan.

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It tells me they are going to suck becasue Bradford sucks. He is good at 2 things, running fast and dropping passes.

 

 

You forgot 1 more....having 1 amazing game out of 16 making eveyone scramble to get him off the WW then he stinks it up! Don't bother with this loser.

[Sho Nuff 720]

lol...dude, it works both ways: you claiming the packers wr corps isn't a mess doesn't magically make it so just because you say so, either.

 

this would be a good place for you to drop it

 

Im not saying they are good or great....have said they were average quite a few times. But a mess? Not really.

 

Id say a mess would be having your first round pick from last year only being around because it is too expensive to cut him. Your number 2 WR who they may be gaga over right now...who has disappointed thus far in his career and is a toke away from taking a year off. And a few castoffs who have never shown much of anything (Bradford and Vines).

 

But again...is this thread about the Lions? Or the Packers? Thats right...the Lions...and as usual you deflected to the Bears and the Packers...as you always do.

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Wow, he's worthy of being claimed off of the waiver wire a single season after being a top 10 pick and getting a bazillion dollar bonus. That's a real testament to Millen's ability to find talent.

 

if he's useless--like you claim--he shouldn't be claimed off the waiver wire. the bears would be orgasmic to get him.

 

Im not saying they are good or great....have said they were average quite a few times. But a mess? Not really.

 

Id say a mess would be having your first round pick from last year only being around because it is too expensive to cut him. Your number 2 WR who they may be gaga over right now...who has disappointed thus far in his career and is a toke away from taking a year off. And a few castoffs who have never shown much of anything (Bradford and Vines).

 

But again...is this thread about the Lions? Or the Packers? Thats right...the Lions...and as usual you deflected to the Bears and the Packers...as you always do.

 

link to a direct quote by a lions front-office person that says the lions are hanging onto mike williams only because they can't afford to keep him. remember: quotation marks, pal: not just the ff geeks here saying itl; not just media types simply pulling "rumors" out of their azz.

 

you engage--blantantly--in the same type of shiat you so piously accuse me of.

 

it's going to be funny as hell to watch the "focked up lions" finish ahead of the inept packers yet again.

 

This is a pretty dumb thing to say, even for you.

Detroit wasted a ton of money on him and a top-10 pick; why wouldn't any of these teams give him a tryout for free? Heck, I hope the Brewers give him a try. He has to be good at something.

 

I've never seen someone so proud that a very recent top-10 pick could be a waiver-wire pick up for a team like the Packers who just lost a pro-bowl receiver.

 

But that is the pysche of a Lions fan.

 

so you are admitting the packers would cream themselves to sign mike? thanks. honesty is the best policy. i have a smidgen more respect for you now. the key would being "smidgen."

[Sho Nuff 720]

link to a direct quote by a lions front-office person that says the lions are hanging onto mike williams only because they can't afford to keep him. remember: quotation marks, pal: not just the ff geeks here saying itl; not just media types simply pulling "rumors" out of their azz.

 

you engage--blantantly--in the same type of shiat you so piously accuse me of.

 

Link to me claiming it was anyone out of the front office? Oh wait...I never claimed as such. But the guy, by several reports has disappointed to the point of being released...and Im not the first to bring that up, am I?

 

I engage blatantly in the constant deflection like you? Not quite. Defend your team all you want. Want to complain about the Packers WRs...start a thread. Want to talk about C. Benson...start a thread.

 

You are hopeless.

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It tells me they are going to suck becasue Bradford sucks. He is good at 2 things, running fast and dropping passes.

 

That's Millen's favorite type of WR.

 

See: Az Zahir Hakim, Bill Schroeder

 

Now he seems to be more into talented WRs who'd rather rest on their college accomplishments than do anything else.

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if he's useless--like you claim--he shouldn't be claimed off the waiver wire. the bears would be orgasmic to get him.

 

Do you actually believe what you type or do you just resort to anything when backed into a corner? If he was released, several teams would look into signing him to a league minimum, incentive based deal with a quick escape route. The Bears have no more interest in fatty anymore than the rest of the teams do. Mybe he could beat out Des Clark at TE if he learned to block.

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Link to me claiming it was anyone out of the front office? Oh wait...I never claimed as such. But the guy, by several reports has disappointed to the point of being released...and Im not the first to bring that up, am I?

 

I engage blatantly in the constant deflection like you? Not quite. Defend your team all you want. Want to complain about the Packers WRs...start a thread. Want to talk about C. Benson...start a thread.

 

You are hopeless.

 

again, what QUALITY reports? or are you that clueless that you think made-up stuff on internet ff boards is actual news? you stated as fact your position that the mike is only on the lions because they can't afford to cut him.

 

still waiting for a legitimate source for your "fact."

 

and you're deflecting right now! i'm asking you to provide a solid and reputable FIRST-HAND report for mike being on the lions only because the lions can't afford to cut him. you know, mike williams? the guy this thread is about?

 

Do you actually believe what you type or do you just resort to anything when backed into a corner? If he was released, several teams would look into signing him to a league minimum, incentive based deal with a quick escape route. The Bears have no more interest in fatty anymore than the rest of the teams do. Mybe he could beat out Des Clark at TE if he learned to block.

 

nice humor, cut in a grade school kind of way. but to be borish i'll simply point out the bears don't have a te that would start for any team in the nfl--or cfl (the real league you should be following).

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"Mike Williams vowed Sunday to make a statement early and said he has recovered from hamstring injuries that bothered him in the off-season.

 

"I've been running for the last three weeks," Williams said. "We're going to roll.'

 

Mike Williams admits to being fined often in 2005 but said it was far less than recently reported. In fact, Williams produced a line-by-line statement from the franchise showing the amount for the full season was $60,443."

 

 

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artic.../607240335/1126

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Mike Williams

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Mike Williams

 

nice update. brilliant addition to the thread.

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oh, come now: you mean this thread isn't any fun anymore? so if mike does well in training camp we're not going to have a thread started about it by a packer or bear homer?

 

gee, what a surprise.

[DrJ 0]

Mike Williams admits to being fined often in 2005 but said it was far less than recently reported. In fact, Williams produced a line-by-line statement from the franchise showing the amount for the full season was $60,443."

 

Now that's some funny stuff, does he carry it around with him?

 

Line 1: 3K for being fat

Line 2: 1K for showing up late to meetings.

Line 3: Laid off twinkies, only 2700 for being fat.

Line 4: 2K for showin up late to meetings

Line 5: Back on the twinkies, 3K for being fat.

etc, etc.

 

Did it say how much he was fined for blowing off rehab sessions this offseason? Did they happen to fine him for crying to the league about how hard they had to work, and costing them practices?

[swamp dog 0]

Now that's some funny stuff, does he carry it around with him?

 

Line 1: 3K for being fat

Line 2: 1K for showing up late to meetings.

Line 3: Laid off twinkies, only 2700 for being fat.

Line 4: 2K for showin up late to meetings

Line 5: Back on the twinkies, 3K for being fat.

etc, etc.

 

Did it say how much he was fined for blowing off rehab sessions this offseason? Did they happen to fine him for crying to the league about how hard they had to work, and costing them practices?

 

there we go. that was easy.

 

bump.

 

(btw: it wasn't mike that complained. it was marcus bell. his name also starts with an m, hence i understand your inability to process the information correctly.)

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Mike Williams is a PIECE OF GARBAGE! OK! I SAID IT! PIECE OF CRAP! Anyone who would throw away 400k to laziness is a scumbag. I'm sure there a few minority high school students that would gladly have taken that 400k towards college.

[Let Da Big Dog Eat 42]

(btw: it wasn't mike that complained. it was marcus bell. his name also starts with an m, hence i understand your inability to process the information correctly.)

 

Link?

[swamp dog 0]

Link?

 

link that it was mike?

 

it was well established by detroit media at the time who it was. i'm not going to go back and find if for you. go to mlive.com or theredzone.org and look at the archives.

 

 

 

 

Mike Williams is a PIECE OF GARBAGE! OK! I SAID IT! PIECE OF CRAP! Anyone who would throw away 400k to laziness is a scumbag. I'm sure there a few minority high school students that would gladly have taken that 400k towards college.

 

easy, there: no sense giving yourself a heart attack over someone who matters nothing to your daily existence, right? you're acting like mike slept with your mother...he didn't sleep with your mom...did he?

 

oh, btw: it wasn't $400k he was fined.

[Let Da Big Dog Eat 42]

link that it was mike?

 

it was well established by detroit media at the time who it was. i'm not going to go back and find if for you. go to mlive.com or theredzone.org and look at the archives.

 

Uh-oh, someone got caught with their hand in the cookie jar, again. Posts something as if it is fact then when asked to back it up, can't. Then, you tell me to do your homework for you? LOL

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Uh-oh, someone got caught with their hand in the cookie jar, again. Posts something as if it is fact then when asked to back it up, can't. Then, you tell me to do your homework for you? LOL

 

tom kowalski, lions beat writer: may 12, 2006. link: http://www.mlive.com/lions/weblog/

 

"Three sources say it wasn't Shaun Rogers

In case you haven't heard, WXYT-AM Detroit has reported that the Lions players who filed the grievance are Marcus Bell, James Hall and Shaun Rogers. Shortly after the grievance was filed, I heard the names of Bell and Hall and another player. I specifically asked three different sources if Rogers or Dre Bly were also involved. I was told no by all three sources.

 

I didn't initially report on Bell and Hall for this reason: Unless you get confirmation from the actual players, putting their names out there is dangerous business. Maybe WXYT-AM did that, I don't know. I'll confirm Bell and Hall because their names are already out there. In fairness to Shaun Rogers, though, I think it's my responsibility to say that in the course of my interviews, he was never named as one of the players involved. Maybe he was, but I couldn't find anyone to confirm that."

 

o-w-n-e-d

 

thanks for being so easy. and predictable.

 

ba-bump.

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nice update. brilliant addition to the thread.

 

I think my "Mike Willaims "....sums it up quite nicely....none of your garbage contributes to this thread in which you say something without a link and then tell him to find it...and bump it because you are the only one interested...so quite simpley the thoughts of most people in this thread on mike williams is....

 

Mike Williams

 

Mike Williams

 

Mike Williams (lazy)

[swamp dog 0]

I think my "Mike Willaims "....sums it up quite nicely....none of your garbage contributes to this thread in which you say something without a link and then tell him to find it...and bump it because you are the only one interested...so quite simpley the thoughts of most people in this thread on mike williams is....

 

Mike Williams

 

Mike Williams

 

Mike Williams (lazy)

 

and yet, here you are, posting in a thread--many times--that you say you have no interest in

 

ba-bumpty bump!!

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and yet, here you are, posting in a thread--many times--that you say you have no interest in

 

ba-bumpty bump!!

 

Mike Williams

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I think my "Mike Willaims "....sums it up quite nicely....none of your garbage contributes to this thread in which you say something without a link and then tell him to find it...and bump it because you are the only one interested...so quite simpley the thoughts of most people in this thread on mike williams is....

 

Mike Williams

 

Mike Williams

 

Mike Williams (lazy)

 

yeah, i bump a 115-post thread--started by a packer fan--because i'm the only one interested in it.

 

listentome!!

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yeah, i bump a 115-post thread--started by a packer fan--because i'm the only one interested in it.

 

listentome!!

 

your the only one who bumped it becuz it ran dry over night...we only come back because deep down inside we love you Swampy

 

Mike Williams

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your the only one who bumped it becuz it ran dry over night...we only come back because deep down inside we love you Swampy

 

Mike Williams

 

listen2me!

 

and for the record i bumped it because of new information that came out, and i correctly figured no one would be interested in it when they found out the new information because it was much more fun when everyone believed the wrong info. positive news isn't any fun now, is it?

 

thanks for confirming that for me.

[Let Da Big Dog Eat 42]

tom kowalski, lions beat writer: may 12, 2006. link: http://www.mlive.com/lions/weblog/

 

"Three sources say it wasn't Shaun Rogers

In case you haven't heard, WXYT-AM Detroit has reported that the Lions players who filed the grievance are Marcus Bell, James Hall and Shaun Rogers. Shortly after the grievance was filed, I heard the names of Bell and Hall and another player. I specifically asked three different sources if Rogers or Dre Bly were also involved. I was told no by all three sources.

 

I didn't initially report on Bell and Hall for this reason: Unless you get confirmation from the actual players, putting their names out there is dangerous business. Maybe WXYT-AM did that, I don't know. I'll confirm Bell and Hall because their names are already out there. In fairness to Shaun Rogers, though, I think it's my responsibility to say that in the course of my interviews, he was never named as one of the players involved. Maybe he was, but I couldn't find anyone to confirm that."

 

o-w-n-e-d

 

thanks for being so easy. and predictable.

 

ba-bump.

 

I would hardly call some beat writer quoting a radio station and saying he "confirmed" part of it while at the same time stating that another part of it is bunk is very credible. All this really says is ~"I couldn't really confirm anything but Bell's and Hall's names are already out there."

 

Nice try. You still have not provided a credible link to your "fact." Not even rented, let alone owned.