Prediction: Willie Roaf will un-retire

[t.j 35]

I heard it from Pat Kirwan on Sirius NFL Radio and you heard it here first. The guy is tired and by "retiring" now he gets out of camp while saving the Chefs the bad publicity of fining him every day.

[Kilroy 0]

I heard it from Pat Kirwan on Sirius NFL Radio and you heard it here first. The guy is tired and by "retiring" now he gets out of camp while saving the Chefs the bad publicity of fining him every day.

 

If so, I hope he keeps himself in shape leading up to the start of the season. If not, don't be surprised if he's injured early in the year.

[Raider 84 29]

Naw..........

[Let Da Big Dog Eat 42]

It would not be the first time this has happened and although I would not predict it, it would not surprise me if you were right. He would be welcomed with open arms.

[luckdogg17 0]

is this pure speculation or if he has some kind of inside info?

i wonder what the chances of this happening are?

[Shakespeare 0]

I heard it from Pat Kirwan on Sirius NFL Radio and you heard it here first. The guy is tired and by "retiring" now he gets out of camp while saving the Chefs the bad publicity of fining him every day.

 

I'm not saying this isn't plausible, but why then would the Chiefs not announce his retirement a week ago? That's when they received Roaf's letter of intention. The team is now suffering bad publicity for picking up free agents to try to fill his role all the while not telling their fans what was happening. So if the Chiefs are trying to avoid embarrassment, too late.

[Kilroy 0]

I'm not saying this isn't plausible, but why then would the Chiefs not announce his retirement a week ago?

 

Because they've been hoping he'd change his mind.

[Nate Burleson's Burly Son 0]

I heard it from Pat Kirwan on Sirius NFL Radio and you heard it here first. The guy is tired and by "retiring" now he gets out of camp while saving the Chefs the bad publicity of fining him every day.

Actually, you heard it here 2nd. I posted a more detailed account of this exact thing in a thread which I know you were active in yesterday.

[esoitl 0]

remeber what happened with Ricky's retire/unretire fiasco

 

if a player retires then comes back out of retirement within a year, they must serve a one year suspension

your logic sounds lovely but the facts surrounding this is if he has filed the paperwork what good will it do?

 

people keep going on that Welbourne will be back as well, back for a 1 year suspension?

yeah, that sounds like they really thought that plan out

 

im sure if he pulls this as a hoax to get out of camp without paying fines the league will step in and fine him anyways so why would he do all this and ruin the franchise rep to end up with the same result?

[t.j 35]

Because they've been hoping he'd change his mind.

 

Exactly. Also, maybe they wanted to sign Ty Law before announcing it?

 

Actually, you heard it here 2nd. I posted a more detailed account of this exact thing in a thread which I know you were active in yesterday.

 

Sorry, I must have missed it. I only heard Kirwan on the replay late at night.

 

remeber what happened with Ricky's retire/unretire fiasco

 

if a player retires then comes back out of retirement within a year, they must serve a one year suspension

your logic sounds lovely but the facts surrounding this is if he has filed the paperwork what good will it do?

 

people keep going on that Welbourne will be back as well, back for a 1 year suspension?

yeah, that sounds like they really thought that plan out

 

im sure if he pulls this as a hoax to get out of camp without paying fines the league will step in and fine him anyways so why would he do all this and ruin the franchise rep to end up with the same result?

 

Interesting point, I don't know. I think Ricky's was different because it was during the regular season. Maybe. I would think Kirwan would have thought of that if it applied to Willie. I don't know if the league will step in and fine him, but if they do, I don't think a league team-imposed fine will upset the Chiefs fans when they got the great news that Willie is back. Especially when you compare it to day after day of hearing how he got fined another $14,000 for not wanting to work.

[Kitsnow 0]

It's better to retire while healthy.. instead of doing it due to serious injury.

[esoitl 0]

Interesting point, I don't know. I think Ricky's was different because it was during the regular season. Maybe. I would think Kirwan would have thought of that if it applied to Willie. I don't know if the league will step in and fine him, but if they do, I don't think a league team-imposed fine will upset the Chiefs fans when they got the great news that Willie is back. Especially when you compare it to day after day of hearing how he got fined another $14,000 for not wanting to work.

sicne these guys are professional journalists i would as well think that they know the rules surrounding situations like this but as far as i know it has nothing to do with when they retire or unretire but the length of the retirement

 

in the article on NFL.com it also said that during the season he felt very worn down and he was still feeling tired and worn out every sunday from the week previous

 

sounds like someone who wants to play but just doesn't have the abilities to go throughthe rigours week to week

[gatorbait7391 0]

sorry but I just dont see this happening

[cmh6476 1,143]

us chief fans hope so. You know the Chief brass will be pressing him to come back, as a lot feel this might be their best chance yet. Not to mention, he's the one that talked Will Shields into coming back another year...

[Freak Jones 0]

remeber what happened with Ricky's retire/unretire fiasco

 

if a player retires then comes back out of retirement within a year, they must serve a one year suspension

your logic sounds lovely but the facts surrounding this is if he has filed the paperwork what good will it do?

There is no one year suspension for un-retiring. All the Ricky stuff was drug related. If Ricky hadn't retired, he would have been suspended for a full year related to violations of the substance abuse policy. Because he was officially retired for a year, they didn't hold the missed tests against him, only the one he actually failed before he retired. Because he waited until July of 2005 to comeback he only had to serve a 4-game suspension for the 3rd failed test.

[esoitl 0]

There is no one year suspension for un-retiring. All the Ricky stuff was drug related. If Ricky hadn't retired, he would have been suspended for a full year related to violations of the substance abuse policy. Because he was officially retired for a year, they didn't hold the missed tests against him, only the one he actually failed before he retired. Because he waited until July of 2005 to comeback he only had to serve a 4-game suspension for the 3rd failed test.

from what i can remember he retired to avoid a drug test in which he was going to test positive

by retiring a player makes themselves ineligible to play for that year

 

i guess it is technically not a suspension but they are deemed inelligible so Welbourne and now Roaf if it is official are inelligible to play in the league this year

[Freak Jones 0]

from what i can remember he retired to avoid a drug test in which he was going to test positive

by retiring a player makes themselves ineligible to play for that year

 

i guess it is technically not a suspension but they are deemed inelligible so Welbourne and now Roaf if it is official are inelligible to play in the league this year

 

I'm trying to find info on where it says once they retire, it's official for a year. Any idea? I'm probably just in denial, but have they filed Roaf's paperwork with the league? If they haven't, maybe that leaves the door just that little bit ajar.

[Deception 0]

roafs a 13 yr veteran, one of the key OL of the Chiefs, well was. If he wanted to get out of camp, im sure all he had to do was ask, go on the PUP or something. There were other options then retiring.

 

He isnt coming back

[onejayhawk 3]

I have been saying this myself. Roaf may be just trying to avoid training camp.

 

It's all good if that's the case. His successor will get a whole camp in, and Roaf will be able to step in and play.

 

J

[luckdogg17 0]

i don't see him coming back either. i agree that it would have been much easier to fake an injury than to go through a whole fake-retirement fiasco. i wonder if these guys are still going to be fighting over where we heard it first when it doesn't happen?

[Brad GLuckman 519]

He's not un-retiring...you heard it here first

[t.j 35]

There is no one year suspension for un-retiring. All the Ricky stuff was drug related. If Ricky hadn't retired, he would have been suspended for a full year related to violations of the substance abuse policy. Because he was officially retired for a year, they didn't hold the missed tests against him, only the one he actually failed before he retired. Because he waited until July of 2005 to comeback he only had to serve a 4-game suspension for the 3rd failed test.

 

Good call, I'm pretty sure Ricky's suspension had to do with the drug tests, not just the retirement.

[gatorbait7391 0]

He's not un-retiring...you heard it here first

no we didnt

[JT 137]

I'm trying to find info on where it says once they retire, it's official for a year. Any idea? I'm probably just in denial, but have they filed Roaf's paperwork with the league? If they haven't, maybe that leaves the door just that little bit ajar.

 

The one year retirement caveat applies only to players in the NFL's substance abuse program. Retirement by a player in the program counts as a missed/failed drug test and is accompanied by an automatic 1 year suspension.

[G-in O-town 0]

If he does retire you got to wonder how Tony G. can once again be an elite TE. Last year when Roaf was out a number of games Tony blocked more then caught balls. You got to drop Tony G's ADP if this happens.

[onejayhawk 3]

If he does retire you got to wonder how Tony G. can once again be an elite TE. Last year when Roaf was out a number of games Tony blocked more then caught balls. You got to drop Tony G's ADP if this happens.

Yes but not far. The TE will be 2nd option on almost every pass he isnt the 1st. LJ is not the factor in the passing that Priest used to be.

 

J

[esoitl 0]

I'm trying to find info on where it says once they retire, it's official for a year. Any idea? I'm probably just in denial, but have they filed Roaf's paperwork with the league? If they haven't, maybe that leaves the door just that little bit ajar.

this is what i found in regards to the Williams gig a while back

Rumored to have failed a third drug test before announcing his retirement, Williams made his retirement official on August 2, 2004, was ineligible to play for the 2004 season

 

i don't remember all the technicalities involved here but if i remember correctly it was this test that made him sit out for the first 4 games he came back

he was never suspended for the year due to drugs

 

 

i'm also curious as to haw far along this 'retirement' is

i would think that since it has made huge headlines that the paperwork is in and it is official but i cant say conclusively to that matter

 

i dont see him coming back anyways though, he sounded as if he wants to just can't physically grind out another season, training camp or no

[mgs316 14]

Until the official papers pass though the NFL's front office, he ain't retired. I think he's smart enough to not officially retire as of yet. He's just letting his team know, unless I missed something.

[SoloMatisse 0]

Greg Landry, resident NFL expert, just stated the same thing on Fox sports radio today. Heard it on the drive home today around 7pm. He feels strongly Roaf will report later in training camp, but wouldnt say he was 100% certain...he tabbed if officially as 50/50. But Landry is about as knowledgeable a guy as you'll hear, so if he thinks its even money Roaf will return, then I wouldnt bet against it.