Manning in the 1st Round

[plasma george 62]

Reading this forum in the preseason, everone posting their opinions on what to do with pick #4, #5, #6, etc. All the experts posted why Jordan, why Edge, why Cadillac, Ronnie Brown, Clinton Portis...and I repeatedly suggested GO MANNING.

He's a guarantee with no Edge to hog up the TDs and the clock, they will be a Passing team first.

 

Just wanted to chime in to see how those guys are doing with the first round busts who said "I never draft a QB in the fist round".

 

I'm 2-0 and LOVING the Peyton Manning FF hog who's back in 2006.

[Rio Gamblers 0]

Reading this forum in the preseason, everone posting their opinions on what to do with pick #4, #5, #6, etc. All the experts posted why Jordan, why Edge, why Cadillac, Ronnie Brown, Clinton Portis...and I repeatedly suggested GO MANNING.

He's a guarantee with no Edge to hog up the TDs and the clock, they will be a Passing team first.

 

Just wanted to chime in to see how those guys are doing with the first round busts who said "I never draft a QB in the fist round".

 

I'm 2-0 and LOVING the Peyton Manning FF hog who's back in 2006.

 

 

Same here. I had the 8th pick this year and Manning felt into my lap with EVERYONE picking a RB. I see the same situation with the COLT running game developing over the course of the year, Manning will be lighting it up.

[Busted by the Feds 9]

The P. Manning owner in my league who drafted him 4th overall is 0-2.

[PackYourNut 47]

I got McNabb in the 7th round... I'll take that value over your first round manning pick anyday!

[kutulu 1,680]

I picked 12th out of 12. 11 RBs went so I felt I had to take Manning.

 

My RBs to start the season were looking bad, with L. Jordon and M. Bell not really working out. Looks like I'll be starting Addai and Maroney, instead.

 

P. Manning

Addai

Maroney (need some Dillon updates ASAP)

Chambers

Driver

A. Bryant

H. Miller

 

[swandown 0]

I got Manning/McGahee with my first 2 picks, but ended up with Kevin Jones as my #2 RB.

 

But I also ended up with Vick and Grossman. In retrospect I wish I would have spent that early pick on a RB instead of Manning -- it would be easier to replace Manning with Vick/Grossman than my current efforts to replace Kevin Jones.

[plasma george 62]

I got McNabb in the 7th round... I'll take that value over your first round manning pick anyday!

McNabb has been a great FF QB these past 2 games...but history shows he will not sustain this pace, especially when it's not 85 degrees and Sunny in the Northeast in a few weeks....(also see Carson Palmer).

 

Manning's "Greatest Show on Turf" will be indoors on carpet, and history shows he will sustain this pace for ALL 16 weeks.

That's the difference in a First Round STUD.

[USGrant 0]

Had the 6th pick in both my drafts and targeted Manning in both. Unfortunately, he was taken 5th in my first draft so I had to "settle" for Rudi. But in the next draft I got him. My Peyton team is 2-0 but my Rudi team is down by 9 going into mnf with Hines Ward playing and we lost the first game.

[The.Damned 0]

I played the manning owner this week - #4 overall pick, doubled down with harrison in the 2nd. Starts Reggie Bush and Fred Taylor; Sanatan Moss and javon walker. He is 2 and 0 and crushed me.

 

My team - Bulgers coach sucks, LT getting pulled and a slew of underachieving shite for receivers are my real problems. But I see him as a powerhouse.

 

Witht he 4th pick thats who i would have taken, but took LT2 at 3 instead.

[mahoney 9]

I also had the dreaded 6th pick. I've never had Manning in my last five years of playing FF but decided that he needs to be on my team this year, I want to root for him. I've been the highest scorer and undefeated thus far in my league with help from Frankie Gore. I'm really not dreading drafting Manning with my first pick...I actually think every other owner in my league is wishing they'd have drafted Manning first.

[jgcrawfish 232]

I drafted 5th in a 10 teamer, got RBrown at 1.05, then had Peyton fall to me 2.06, when against my gut and took Chad Johnson at 3.05 and followed up with Chester Taylor in the 4th and Donald Driver in the 5th. I've struck gold on all my high draft picks so far. I'm up by 32 pts tonight with the JReed + JagsD going for me against his WParker, so I should be 2-0 to start the season. When I picked Peyton, it broke the string of 15 consecutive RB to start the draft.

[Toltec 0]

Rex Grossman, round 15 as my backup. Better value right now.

[IndyColtsFan 325]

Everyone in every one of my leagues who picked Manning in the first OR second rounds is now 0-2.

 

[mahoney 9]

Rex Grossman, round 15 as my backup. Better value right now.

 

No Doubt, I actually played the Rex Grossman owner this week...and won.

[assumed risk 0]

I too had a late pick in my league that matters. Went Manning/Cadillac. I was utterly flabergasted when the Colts homer with the 9th pick overall took Lamont Jordan and the guy with the 10th pick who always loads up on QBs took Dominick Davis! I couldn't say 'Payton Manning' fast enough.

 

The problem is, the RB position has turned into a crap shoot. You just don't know who's going to show up! Peyton Manning and LT2 are about as close to a sure thing you're going to find. Why wouldn't you take him?

 

I'm 1-1 (started Kennison over Bryant week 1--a mistake I will not soon repeat) and have at least four teams sniffing around my QB hanger.

[Churchill610 0]

Peyton owner here sitting at 0-2:

 

1.7: Peyton Manning

2.4: Cadillac Williams

3.7: Randy Moss

[R8RMick 242]

I got him for $39 in my auction league. He's saving my arse, and there's no end in sight.

[Ilov80s 0]

This just goes to prove that it isn't who you draft in the first that produces wins, but who you draft 3rd and beyond. If you took Manning in the first, followed that up with Westbrook and Gore. Sneak in Coles late and you have a 2-0 team. If you went after Caddy, Moss, etc . then you are looking at 0-2.

[FantasyChick 0]

I drafted 5th in a 10 teamer, got RBrown at 1.05, then had Peyton fall to me 2.06, when against my gut and took Chad Johnson at 3.05 and followed up with Chester Taylor in the 4th and Donald Driver in the 5th. I've struck gold on all my high draft picks so far. I'm up by 32 pts tonight with the JReed + JagsD going for me against his WParker, so I should be 2-0 to start the season. When I picked Peyton, it broke the string of 15 consecutive RB to start the draft.

 

Your team is awesome! Lot of talent on that roster.

[plasma george 62]

Peyton owner here sitting at 0-2:

 

1.7: Peyton Manning

2.4: Cadillac Williams

3.7: Randy Moss

You're 0-2 because of your #2 and #3 picks...if I could have helped you, I would've suggested you go WR, WR there and then go RB, RB in the 4th and 5th.

 

I did a reverse draft, and it's working beautifully.....everyone was laughing at the draft board saying "when's George gonna go RB", and after the draft everyone's comment was..."look how weak your RBs are".

I kept thinking..."STFU, cause I'm taking your money...you'll see".

 

10 team...I got Holt 2, and Chambers 3, then FWP and Gore (thanks to reading this board), then Branch....so things might even be better for me as the season roles on.

[mahoney 9]

Your team is awesome! Lot of talent on that roster.

 

Yeah, but it IS a 10-teamer league. I'm not knockin' ya for playing in a 10 teamer league as often found on this board...

But I'm just sayin.

[scottlaroc 0]

This just goes to prove that it isn't who you draft in the first that produces wins, but who you draft 3rd and beyond. If you took Manning in the first, followed that up with Westbrook and Gore. Sneak in Coles late and you have a 2-0 team. If you went after Caddy, Moss, etc . then you are looking at 0-2.

 

You have wisdom beyond your years (I'm assuming you're a child of the 80's)

 

Most of the time every team will have 2 out 3 of their 1st 3 picks perform. Currently in my 12 teamer 10 teams prove this. The rubber meets the road in rounds 4-8. Where I have Boldin, Gore, TJ Housh, MBIII and Maroney. Throw in my late (9th and 12th) steals of M Vick and LJ Smith. Mike Vick was too much value in the 9th and I had been shut out of McNabb and Warner in the 5th. Things just got nutty with QBs in my draft.

[gmeyers01 0]

You have wisdom beyond your years (I'm assuming you're a child of the 80's)

 

Most of the time every team will have 2 out 3 of their 1st 3 picks perform. Currently in my 12 teamer 10 teams prove this. The rubber meets the road in rounds 4-8. Where I have Boldin, Gore, TJ Housh, MBIII and Maroney. Throw in my late (9th and 12th) steals of M Vick and LJ Smith. Mike Vick was too much value in the 9th and I had been shut out of McNabb and Warner in the 5th. Things just got nutty with QBs in my draft.

 

 

2-0 with Manning taken at #5 overall! here is my team in a 12 team league:

 

Manning, Carr, Simms

McGahee, Gore, Maroney, and Norwood

C.J., Boldin, Kennison, and Toomer

Shockey and Dallas Clark

Kaeding

NE and Denver's D.

 

#2 points scored in week one, and now #1 in pts. this week.

 

Picking Manning at #5 over S-Jax, Rudi, Edge has worked great so far!

[FlaHawker 24]

McNabb has been a great FF QB these past 2 games...but history shows he will not sustain this pace, especially when it's not 85 degrees and Sunny in the Northeast in a few weeks....(also see Carson Palmer).

 

Manning's "Greatest Show on Turf" will be indoors on carpet, and history shows he will sustain this pace for ALL 16 weeks.

That's the difference in a First Round STUD.

 

 

All 16 weeks? I guess you didn't do your homework. If you make the FF playoffs, I hope you have Jim Sorgi to replace your stud when he is watching from the sidelines

[p00h 85]

I wrote this in another thread, but I'll regurgitate it here. NFL is all about parity, and as such the NFL players will also be subject to said parity. What I mean by this is most players will fall victim to their team's uprising or demise on a year to year basis. Many that come to mind are(mind you it's very early in the season): Delhomme, caddilac, ronnie brown, list goes on and on and on. That's not even taking into account players that switch teams, and all of a sudden their 90 catches 1200 yard seasons turn to 65 catches 850 yard seasons because the team they're on doesn't throw nearly enough. Even though the skillset is still teh same. So in an ever changing NFL landscape, there are few constants. The top 3 have established themselves as constants, but after that only a few remain. Peyton being the next. As such, I had his ADP at 1.04, regardless of scoring format. Tiki is going to prove to be overvalued at 1.04, and we can see the likes of ronnie brown will not be worth their weight. The flip side is the likes of gore. A whole other side of it is the likes of jamal, and fred taylor, who have proved themselves in the past but you don't know what to expect. To me, they are a better gamble in the 4th and 5th as opposed to gambling on caddilac and ronnie brown in the 1st. Why westy gets undervalued every year also boggles me. Rudi is slowly but surely cementing himself as right behing the top 3. Receivers, you got marvin, holt, and CJ. Steve smith needs to prove himself over atleast another season. That's why I grabbed marvin in 2 leagues over the likes of SS, or chad, or holt. You know what you get from them. Gotta go with the guaranteed money early in the draft, it'll always at the very least keep you afloat. I took manning at 1.05 in a league, only to come back with steve smith because I didn't care for the mcghaees and kevin jones in the 2nd. Well I ended up with chester in the 3rd, droughns in the 4th, and gore in the 5th. Gore alone allows me to operate with not having taken a rb in either of my 1st 2 rounds. Granted I stepped in it with that one, but that is a better gamble than ronnie at 1.05. Or even Sjax. The rb-rb theory is flawed in many ways, but the major flaw is that it is a crapshoot after your top tier backs. If lamont jordan touches 1/2 of his production from last year, people should consider themselves lucky! Go for the guaranteed money early, gamble later. I bet fred taylor outdoes a 1/3 of the 1st round backs, going in the 5th and 6th in most leagues...

[FlaHawker 24]

I wrote this in another thread, but I'll regurgitate it here.

 

[plasma george 62]

All 16 weeks? I guess you didn't do your homework. If you make the FF playoffs, I hope you have Jim Sorgi to replace your stud when he is watching from the sidelines

Not sure if there's any value in that statement.

Maybe in the back of my mind, but I won't make a draft decision based on the chances of that occuring.

That could be ANY team.

I think it's very safe to say they're not going undefeated this year....and I hope the lose....so they will have to play up until the very end.

[PackYourNut 47]

McNabb has been a great FF QB these past 2 games...but history shows he will not sustain this pace, especially when it's not 85 degrees and Sunny in the Northeast in a few weeks....(also see Carson Palmer).

 

Manning's "Greatest Show on Turf" will be indoors on carpet, and history shows he will sustain this pace for ALL 16 weeks.

That's the difference in a First Round STUD.

 

 

You must have missed the "VALUE" part of my post... Manning may score more points then McNabb by years end and then again maybe he wont, but one thing is for sure. Getting McNabb in the 7th has given me WAY more value the your Manning pick. It's really not too hard to figure out.

[The.Damned 0]

2-0 with Manning taken at #5 overall! here is my team in a 12 team league:

 

Manning, Carr, Simms

McGahee, Gore, Maroney, and Norwood

C.J., Boldin, Kennison, and Toomer

Shockey and Dallas Clark

Kaeding

NE and Denver's D.

 

#2 points scored in week one, and now #1 in pts. this week.

 

Picking Manning at #5 over S-Jax, Rudi, Edge has worked great so far!

 

 

I call BS unless this is a keeper league no way you got 4 top picks

With manning, cj, boldin and mcgahee i would be killing it in my league

[FlaHawker 24]

Not sure if there's any value in that statement.

Maybe in the back of my mind, but I won't make a draft decision based on the chances of that occuring.

That could be ANY team.

I think it's very safe to say they're not going undefeated this year....and I hope the lose....so they will have to play up until the very end.

 

 

Absolute value in that statement. By taking Manning top 4, you weaken yourself at other postions. For example the guy in my league that took Manning at 4 has absolutely no WR's because he had to spend the next couple of picks on RB's to make up for taking Manning. Combine Manning possibly being on the bench during the FF playoffs with either weak RB's or WR's and you have no chance, assuming you make the playoffs in the first place.

[vuduchile 1,945]

Manning owner in my league is 1-1.

 

I didn't like the gamble in my league, which is PPR. I was still looking to get 2 RBs, and at least one stud WR in the first three.

 

I guess it could make better sense in non PPR leagues or where passing TDs are 6 pts.

 

My QB is "the other Manning", who happened to outscore his older brother by 2 pts last week. I won the game by 10.

 

I drafted Eli in the 5th, and am pretty pleased so far.

[rebooters 1]

The P. Manning owner in my league who drafted him 4th overall is 0-2.

the guy that took him 6th overall and is 2-0. yea, manning isnt the only player on a FF team but he sure helps when he tosses for 3tds and 400. most consistent player out there. so far the palmer doesnt seem to be able to keep up. did the knee change this situation, was it the movement of edge? i dunno but my prediction of peyton being the best again and throwing 35+ is looking more likely to happen. i just couldnt take him at 3 overall. i might wish i did.

[FecalHead 0]

Reading this forum in the preseason, everone posting their opinions on what to do with pick #4, #5, #6, etc. All the experts posted why Jordan, why Edge, why Cadillac, Ronnie Brown, Clinton Portis...and I repeatedly suggested GO MANNING.

He's a guarantee with no Edge to hog up the TDs and the clock, they will be a Passing team first.

 

Just wanted to chime in to see how those guys are doing with the first round busts who said "I never draft a QB in the fist round".

 

I'm 2-0 and LOVING the Peyton Manning FF hog who's back in 2006.

I think that anyone that would make such a stupid argument 2 games into the season should be have their "geekdom" revolked. The reality is, that the stats show that what all of the "don't draft a QB in the first round" posters were saying is true. No one ever said that Manning wasn't a great fantasy QB. The argument is that you can get more value in the later rounds at QB that you can at RB and WR. According to the scoring system at NFL.com here are the QB total points after two weeks...

 

McNabb 57

Manning 49

Grossman 49

E. Manning 47

Vick 46

Pennington 44

Warner 41

Carr 41

 

And after tonight, Palmer will most likely be in the that mix. So, congratulations on using that #1 pick to get 8 more than David Carr after two weeks.

 

It will be interesting to look at the results of the Manning in the first round teams at the halway mark in the season. But to crow about anything at this point is just plain idiotic.

[gmeyers01 0]

I call BS unless this is a keeper league no way you got 4 top picks

With manning, cj, boldin and mcgahee i would be killing it in my league

 

 

I traded Mike Bell and D. McAllister for McGahee before week 1. My 6th and 7th round picks for his 2nd. So far Deuce has done well, but I'm still holing out that McGahee will pay off for me. He had no RB depth, so he was willing to do a 2 for 1, and I figured McGahee would be better than 2 RBBC backs.