Walter34 3 Posted July 1, 2004 Hey gents, I think it makes sense that the draft order is the reverse standings of the previous season. I dont think this was specified in the rules however. When trading for future picks, you can judge the position of these picks based on the teams standings. Two options: 1) Draft oder is reverse standings of the previous year 2) Redraw for draft position Thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dalem 0 Posted July 1, 2004 I think since this is a keeper league, it should be inverse from last year. And I don't say that to get a better position -- I lost in the Super Bowl to Cyric, so I would have the second-last pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NAn 39 Posted July 2, 2004 inverse makes sense, though i wished we had addressed it last year: anyone remember how it ended up? i don't remember exactly where everyone finished...hopefully when yahoo comes back up it'll be there again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charger Fan22 0 Posted July 2, 2004 It won't be on Yahoo. Hopefully someone has it because if it's a keeper league it has to go in inverse order. Obviously whoever wins a league is almost always due to some wise late-round picks which means being able to keep them. It would make the league a little less competitive if that same person also somehow had a top 2 pick also IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NAn 39 Posted July 2, 2004 ok, pure luck will not be returning...he's a friend of chargers and confirmed today that he won't be returning. also have not heard from indybearsfan, but saw he recently posted at geek board...posted thread for him to check out board if he's in or out. so...how will we deal with pure luck's team/players and moving forward? 1.players go back in draft pool? 2.someone take over team? 3.other options? and replacement owner/s? dan mentioned he may have somebody to replace, something we could discuss as a league. have a good/safe holiday weekend boys...and walt well you just have a good/safe weekend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter34 3 Posted July 3, 2004 Nan - new guys should take over an existing team. This way they at least have the option of keeping players if they choose. In these rules, the worst they can do is start from scratch. As usual, let's choose the new guys carefully with only long term members considered. (Under member 12000?) Any suggestions welcome. As for last years standings, I cant remember the exact rankings. I know that I was near the bottom. If people remember their rank, post it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 66 Posted July 3, 2004 Chargers was last - giving him the #1 pick. I was 7th, I think, going into the playoffs. I think I played Cyric in the first round, so invert from his positioning, and that's where I was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 66 Posted July 3, 2004 Regarding draft order, I believe we have to invert, as best as possible. But we have to retain the snake-style drafting to be legitimate, I would think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NAn 39 Posted July 3, 2004 Nan - new guys should take over an existing team. This way they at least have the option of keeping players if they choose. In these rules, the worst they can do is start from scratch. okay so new guy looks at luck's squad(indy's in)and decides keepers if any then rest of players go back in pool...that makes sense. couple other things: -think i finished like 4th or 5th, but also think i was ousted in first rnd...so where does that put me if a lower seed beat me in playoffs? we gotta hash this out soon...if you remember where you finished chime in. -KIND OF agree with inverse order but my concern would be tanking to improve draft position for following year. no big deal i guess, but just something i thought about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stinkybob 0 Posted July 3, 2004 I wanna say Ham_Burglar was either 8th or 6th. I previously thought I finished 8th, but when I got thinking about it 6th seems more and more likely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dalem 0 Posted July 3, 2004 Ideally, it should be based on post-season results. Eight teams made the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dalem 0 Posted July 3, 2004 1. Chargers? 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. Dan? 9. Ham_Burglar? 10. NAn? 11. 12. 13. Dalem 14. Cyric Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 66 Posted July 3, 2004 I say we work it the way the NFL does. You invert according to ranking at the end of the season, unless you made it to the Super Bowl. And then, all the others are shifted down accordingly. Which means FantasyGod, or whatever his name is now (GrossmanIsOurSavior - I think), should be #3, as he finished #1 in the regular season, no? I think Cyric finished #2 during the season, which would make me #7. NAn, I'm inclined to think that I was slated to see you in the second round, which would have made you #3 - during the season. That would rank you fourth in this scenario, or the 11th pick in the first. The Muggles team - Sorry, don't remember who he was - finished fourth or fifth - hopefully he remembers. If I'm close to right, combined with Stinkybob's thinking he was #6, then round one of the playoffs pitted NAn against Stinkbob. So, my thinking . . . 1. Cyric 2. Dalem 3. FantasyGod (GrossmanIsOurSavior) 4. NAn 5. Muggles? 6. Stinkbob 7. Dan 8. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~>probert? Speculation 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. Chargersfan Invert this. But the last playoff team should be easy, at the very least. I don't remember all the teams off the top of my head, and I'm still trying to find my season-stretch breakdown, which would answer all these questions. I'll keep looking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Proteus71 0 Posted July 4, 2004 I was the Midwest Muggles. I don't remember my exact finish place, though fifth sounds about right. I'm trying to remember who beat me in the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter34 3 Posted July 4, 2004 I'm somewhere in the 11-13 range. Cant remember how bad, but I sold off several big players before the trade deadline because I was out of it by then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dalem 0 Posted July 4, 2004 1. Cyric2. Dalem 3. GrossmanIsOurSavior 4. NAn 5. Proteus 6. Stinkbob 7. Dan 8. probert? (Speculation) 9. Deadpool/bgsgfan 10. Deadpool/bgsgfan 11. Walter34/indybearsfan/Pure Luck 12. Walter34/indybearsfan/Pure Luck 13. Walter34/indybearsfan/Pure Luck 14. Chargersfan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 66 Posted July 4, 2004 Walter34 has himself pegged pretty accurately. I am fairly certain that Deadpool and bgsgfan were in the 9-10 grouping, as I remember them being opponents for the last couple of spots. Of course, you start 0-6, and everyone's an obstacle. :rolleyes: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NAn 39 Posted July 5, 2004 1. Cyric2. Dalem 3. GrossmanIsOurSavior 4. NAn 5. Proteus 6. Stinkbob 7. Dan 8. probert? (Speculation) 9. Deadpool/bgsgfan 10. Deadpool/bgsgfan 11. Walter34/indybearsfan/Pure Luck 12. Walter34/indybearsfan/Pure Luck 13. Walter34/indybearsfan/Pure Luck 14. Chargersfan -ok, this looks on track, just need to iron it out -so we'll pass on the random draft order. -like dan's idea of how the nfl goes...SB winner/SB loser than everyone ranked according to final standings. -still no yahoo...can someone check on mfl? -keeper deadline is july 19th so 2wks to work deals/trades/etc...have added trade talk thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bgsgfan 0 Posted July 5, 2004 I think you have my position pegged right (9th or 10th, competed for last playoff spot). I like 2 options for drafting: 1. inverse order like NFL - no snake. 2. Snake, but the teams pick their draft position in inverse order like the NFL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dalem 0 Posted July 5, 2004 A thought occurred to me: If no one is able to accurately pin down the position (for 9 and 10 & 11 to 13), they could do that online dice roll thingie to determine who gets which position. One dice roll for positions 9 and 10 between bgsgfan and Deadpool and one dice roll for positions 11 to 13 among walt, indy and pure luck substitute. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter34 3 Posted July 5, 2004 good idea melad. The concensus seems to be that the SB participants are 13-14. After that the final regular season standings set the rank with 14th picking 1st. Snake order draft where previous years SB champ picks 1st in round 2. Next year we will remember to keep the standings at the end of the year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NAn 39 Posted July 5, 2004 A thought occurred to me: If no one is able to accurately pin down the position (for 9 and 10 & 11 to 13), they could do that online dice roll thingie to determine who gets which position. One dice roll for positions 9 and 10 between bgsgfan and Deadpool and one dice roll for positions 11 to 13 among walt, indy and pure luck substitute. yes, good idea...could you set that up walt? of course as you have time but the sooner the better: -help with trade talk if we each new exactly where everyone is picking. -need owner for luck's team...sooner we have his spot filled up we can pose it to prospective replacements. BTW...any ideas on a replacement? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NAn 39 Posted July 7, 2004 LEAGUE MEMBERS/DRAFT SET so look's like grey in and will send em soon confirming that i'm staying so we have our 14. draft order is set, next big date is monday july 19th to declare keepers officially...have till then to trade exisiting keepers. RULES DISCUSSION this came up after the season...personally would like to go to .5 pts per rec as 1 pt seems like to much at times. other thoughts on this or other rule changes? say we also give it till the 19th to discuss and vote on rule changes if any Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_probert_2000 1 Posted July 12, 2004 after i read this a second time I am positive I finised last...no doubt about it.. I finished one spot out of the playoffs to confirm. I will make sure I print all details of end of year results to carry on to 2005. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dalem 0 Posted July 12, 2004 after i read this a second time I am positive I finised last...no doubt about it.. I finished one spot out of the playoffs to confirm. I will make sure I print all details of end of year results to carry on to 2005. So you finished 9th? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cyric29 Posted July 13, 2004 Probert League Champ!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_probert_2000 1 Posted July 13, 2004 after i read this a second time I am positive I finised last...no doubt about it.. I finished one spot out of the playoffs to confirm. I will make sure I print all details of end of year results to carry on to 2005. So you finished 9th? I didn't make the playoffs..I think I was on the verge and lost the spot the last week of the reg season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NAn 39 Posted July 22, 2004 -BP, hope you don't mind...unstickied some posts that we really didn't need at top anymore as it was getting crowded up top. -i unstickied 'keeper/last yrs rosters/last yrs trades' threads b/c all info updated on walt's 'draft order with keepers' thread at top. -In my info thread i said draft day was to be August 29th...this upcoming Monday. i'm not commish anymore so we don't have to stick to that but just curious on what we are going to do and where? -come on guys, we've got only 6 of 8 registered at yahoo?I mean what if draft was to be this upcoming monday? -are we staying with 1pt per rec? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_probert_2000 1 Posted July 22, 2004 -BP, hope you don't mind...unstickied some posts that we really didn't need at top anymore as it was getting crowded up top. -i unstickied 'keeper/last yrs rosters/last yrs trades' threads b/c all info updated on walt's 'draft order with keepers' thread at top. -In my info thread i said draft day was to be August 29th...this upcoming Monday. i'm not commish anymore so we don't have to stick to that but just curious on what we are going to do and where? -come on guys, we've got only 6 of 8 registered at yahoo?I mean what if draft was to be this upcoming monday? -are we staying with 1pt per rec? August 29 is a month away bro. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_probert_2000 1 Posted July 22, 2004 ALso I wouldn't mind a consideration to push this back a week anyhow. I will be on vacation later next week. I can give someone my list, but for the sake of ease..we probably should consider this since we are pushing to get people registered. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NAn 39 Posted July 22, 2004 August 29 is a month away bro. LOL...man i'm all mixed up. i meant monday JULY 26th. anyway, my pt is that i'm not commish anymore so if you want to change date that's fine with me but at same time we gotta get started at least first wk in august to get it done in time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dalem 0 Posted July 22, 2004 August 29 is a month away bro. LOL...man i'm all mixed up. i meant monday JULY 26th. anyway, my pt is that i'm not commish anymore so if you want to change date that's fine with me but at same time we gotta get started at least first wk in august to get it done in time. Agreed. Even if we start Monday, Aug. 2, we should be able to get done. Any later than that and I'd be skeptical. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter34 3 Posted July 23, 2004 -BP, hope you don't mind...unstickied some posts that we really didn't need at top anymore as it was getting crowded up top. -i unstickied 'keeper/last yrs rosters/last yrs trades' threads b/c all info updated on walt's 'draft order with keepers' thread at top. -In my info thread i said draft day was to be August 29th...this upcoming Monday. i'm not commish anymore so we don't have to stick to that but just curious on what we are going to do and where? -come on guys, we've got only 6 of 8 registered at yahoo?I mean what if draft was to be this upcoming monday? -are we staying with 1pt per rec? yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites