dmaidlow73 0 Posted December 29, 2006 5-6 Bowl Games ATS 2-1 day yesterday (got a couple beers in me and lost all my homer apprehension, making a last minute play on Rutgers). Feeling a bit better about the bowl season, though still shaking my head over Texas A&M. The decision not to kick the FG trailing by 18 with 10:00+ on the clock went against everything this team did all season long. Failing to convert that 4th and 6 opened the floodgates, effectively ending the game for players that have scrapped til the final second all year. A strange call by the coaching staff. Reading some of the picks/analysis today, and I think you guys are missing the days best bet. Houston +5.5 So Carolina : Houston is 10-3, and has beaten bowl teams Rice, Ok State, Tulsa, So Miss, and lost 14-13 @ Miami. QB Kolb is a 4 year starter, 27 TD - 3 INT this year. So Carolina didn't run away from anyone, winning or losing close games weekly. Surprisingly for a Spuirrier team, the Gamecocks will get killed if this becomes a shootout. Houston has the better skill players with the possible exception of WR Sidney Rice. I say possible because, for all the hype, Rice did little against the good teams, fattening his stats against the weak sisters. Houston got embarassed in last year's bowl game, and I don't see it happening again. This is a good, solid, overlooked team. It's too many points. Clemson -10 Kentucky: The Wildcats have been a nice story, and their pass happy offense can keep things interesting for a while. Most don't know that KU's run defense is Top 20 in the nation (Clemson's too). But KU's is a product of team's having to abandon the run to keep up the scoring pace. Clemson just has better personnel, size and speed. I see this turning into the worst game of the day. Missouri +3.5 Oregon St: OSU finished the year hot; Missouri didn't. But the Tigers have the edge in virtually every statistical category except run defense. That's a factor, but Missouri isn't going to beat anyone running the ball anyway. QB Chase Daniels is the key for Mizzou. As noted earlier, the Tigers lost their best defensive player, Brian Smith, but that was mid-season. It had a big impact on their defense, but I don't see either D being a big factor today. Lots of points; a break one way or the other will decide this one. A FG game. Tex Tech -6.5 Minnesota: The only stats you need to know: Minnesota is 112th nationally in total defense & 95th vs the pass. Not a good combination vs the Tech offense. Graham Harrell is the best QB prospect yet to run Mike Leach's offense. The Red Raiders will be missing one of their best WR, but not to worry. There's plenty of talent to go around. Many don't realize that Tech's defense is considerably better this year, ranking in the top 50 in total defense. The run is their softest spot, and that would be a big factor vs a normal Minnesota team. But the running game this year is nowhere near what it's been in the past. The Gophers actually rely more on QB Cupito to win games. I don't see it here. I'm not sure that I'm going to make a play on Purdue-Maryland. Purdue sucks, but at least they suck consistently, ranking 92nd nationally in scoring offense and defense. The Boilermakers give away the ball like ecstasy at an all night rave, but Maryland ranks even lower in TO margin. This game, in my mind, really comes down to the coaches. I don't see a clear-cut winner in Tiller vs Big Ralph (though Md has stomped it's last couple bowl opponents). Good luck to all! JT, the more I look at the Houston/USC game the more I like Houston as well. Kolb is the most underrated QB in the country and he has a ton of experience. Some people like USC because they think Spurrier is a great coach and won't lose a bowl game. I have news for you, while Steve is a great coach he has a 6-6 bowl record. Not exactly sparkling. I am adding Houston +5.5 for 2 units. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted December 29, 2006 philly: Is Minnesota strictly a fade play, or do you have some reasoning behind it? I haven't seen anyone (sharps or squares) picking Minnesota in this game. Over the last 3 years, Minnesota plays outstanding in non-conference games, going 8-2 ATS. Tex Tech is 4-5 ATS. Seems like every year, many people fall in love with Tex Tech and their offense, yet they always seem to come up small at the biggest moments. Minnesota comes in with more momentum, winning their last 3 game to become bowl eligible. They played with a lot of enthusiam down the stretch, I watched a couple of those games, and they won't take this game for granted. I'll take the generous points in what could be a shootout. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
art schlichter's bookie 0 Posted December 29, 2006 Added another unit on Ky/Clemson OVAH Took Stroughter for Beavers to get 89 rec yards. half unit Took Purdue -1 for one unit Took SCAR/Hou UNDER for half unit gl to all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiantsRule 0 Posted December 29, 2006 Kentucky really starting the day off great by passing all over Clemson for the easy score 4 minutes in. Now I need three TDs by Clemson to cover. That's fanfvckingtastic! Had I known Art S was just taking the over, I wouldn't have bothered with laying the big number. Hopefully, the Oregon State team over won't disappoint. And nice miss of the easy field goal to put numbers on the board. Solid play! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiantsRule 0 Posted December 29, 2006 Kentucky really starting the day off great by passing all over Clemson for the easy score 4 minutes in. Now I need three TDs by Clemson to cover. That's fanfvckingtastic! Had I known Art S was just taking the over, I wouldn't have bothered with laying the big number. Hopefully, the Oregon State team over won't disappoint. And nice miss of the easy field goal to put numbers on the board. Solid play! And now they fail to convert another 4th down from even closer range (I thought Kentucky's defense was cupcake?!?) and miss a 28-yarder! Unreal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmaidlow73 0 Posted December 29, 2006 And now they fail to convert another 4th down from even closer range (I thought Kentucky's defense was cupcake?!?) and miss a 28-yarder! Unreal. Clemson does not appear to want to win this game. Talent wise they should dominate. It is just the desire that may end up killing us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mack Daddy 0 Posted December 29, 2006 I am going back to school to walk on at Clemson to kick field goals... This is unfvckingbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmaidlow73 0 Posted December 29, 2006 I am going back to school to walk on at Clemson to kick field goals... This is unfvckingbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Officially one of the worst played football games ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted December 29, 2006 4 turnovers in 5 minutes in the Kent/Clemson game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t.j 35 Posted December 29, 2006 So far: Clemson drives ending inside the Kentucky 20 yard line: 4 Clemson points: 6 4 turnovers in 5 minutes in the Kent/Clemson game. 11 drives in the 2nd quarter! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiantsRule 0 Posted December 29, 2006 Clemson was a dead bet in the first 3 minutes. Oregon State not looking like they can tack on another 14 points. So that brings on chase mode: Two-team parlay Purdue - Maryland Over 55 Minnesota - Texas Tech Over 62.5 Good luck to all! More stupid chasing: 2H Missouri-Oregon State Over 26.5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted December 29, 2006 Can someone explain to me why the fock they started showing college football bowl games on NFL Network? They are COLLEGE games, not NFL. I'm frustrated, since I don't have digital cable, just basic, so I don't have this channel. But these kids are being watched by a very limited audience. Stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bucswinitall 0 Posted December 29, 2006 Gotta love Clemson playing like dogshit...that was pathetic. I'm so all over the place I dont even know what my instincts tell me anymore. I'm hoping Oregon st can make something happen and I got quite a bit riding on SC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiantsRule 0 Posted December 29, 2006 Can someone explain to me why the fock they started showing college football bowl games on NFL Network? They are COLLEGE games, not NFL. I'm frustrated, since I don't have digital cable, just basic, so I don't have this channel. But these kids are being watched by a very limited audience. Stupid. Dude, not for nothing, but you bet several times a day on everything from the Tiddlywinks Classic to the Bowling Invitational. You mean to tell me you can't afford to upgrade your cable system? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted December 29, 2006 Dude, not for nothing, but you bet several times a day on everything from the Tiddlywinks Classic to the Bowling Invitational. You mean to tell me you can't afford to upgrade your cable system? I could upgrade for free, and my monthly bill would be about the same. But it's the principle of it. The c0ckbites at Comcast keep taking away channels from basic, and trying to strong arm people to switch to digital. Problem is, I'm stubborn. At one point, I had the HBO package, which was 3 channels. Well, one day, they decided to take away one of those channels. I called up, pretty pissed off. The customer rep told me that I should be happy to be getting two channels for the price I was paying and if I switched to digital..... My stunned silence transformed into "Well, you can take both those channels, and your digital, and cram them up your smelly snatch. Cancel HBO." It's crap like that that is forcing me to hold out from switching. Because they want me to switch. Screw Comcast. Plus, I bought a hot box for about 20 bucks, so I got HBO and other premium channels for free anyway. Yep, I'm stubborn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bucswinitall 0 Posted December 29, 2006 A chance to tie, go to OT, and cover, and they go for 2!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
torridjoe 48 Posted December 29, 2006 That was ballsy as fock. Way to go, Beavers! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted December 29, 2006 That was ballsy as fock. Way to go, Beavers! That was unexpected. And sweet. When you have Missouri (+3). First time in the bowls this year where a team won but didn't cover. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mack Daddy 0 Posted December 29, 2006 Granted Oregon St. had no business covering that game, but I want to kill that damn coach for getting my hopes up for OT then coming out for TWO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Complete and utter fvckjob!!! I need a new fvcking hobby!!!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ROCKET 0 Posted December 30, 2006 I just got home from work and see both dogs covered earlier . I was going to take So. Carolina but didn't get home in time to place a bet (looks like I lucked out). I'm doubling up on Perdue, they went from +4 to -1 and the public $$ is on MD. Something smells funny and the majority of the time a line moves like that the fav. covers. The other game I don't care for but I'll reluctantly take Texas Tech seeing how Minny sucked all year and could barely beat a division II school at home. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bucswinitall 0 Posted December 30, 2006 Thank god SC finally stopped Houston...wish I'd have bet the over on that one. My money is on Minny and Purdue Added a parlay with S Ill and Wake, which might have some legs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted December 30, 2006 JT, the more I look at the Houston/USC game the more I like Houston as well. Kolb is the most underrated QB in the country and he has a ton of experience. Some people like USC because they think Spurrier is a great coach and won't lose a bowl game. I have news for you, while Steve is a great coach he has a 6-6 bowl record. Not exactly sparkling. I am adding Houston +5.5 for 2 units. Man, I'm the ultimate cooler right now. Sorry to break what looks like a nice hot streak you've been on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hardboy23 0 Posted December 30, 2006 There is a LOT of money being lost on the MN/Texas Tech game tonight. This is the best I have seen the Gophers look in a LONG TIME.........TOO BAD I HAD NO FAITH IN MY HOME DOGS!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted December 30, 2006 Navy Straight up. Book it. Got any more to add here as to why? The way I'm going, I'm open to any info. I gotta say, everything points to BC being a nightmare matchup for Navy. Great run defense, good LB corps which is poison to the option. Add in BC's bowl success and Navy going t!ts-up vs it's only quality opponents this year, and I'm not seeing it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 157 Posted December 30, 2006 There is a LOT of money being lost on the MN/Texas Tech game tonight. This is the best I have seen the Gophers look in a LONG TIME.........TOO BAD I HAD NO FAITH IN MY HOME DOGS!!!! Still very early. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted December 30, 2006 There is a LOT of money being lost on the MN/Texas Tech game tonight. This is the best I have seen the Gophers look in a LONG TIME.........TOO BAD I HAD NO FAITH IN MY HOME DOGS!!!! VERY early. If you've watched Tech at all, you know they score in bunches, and get far more possessions out of a game than normal teams. It's a timing offense, so I'm not shocked they're starting slow. They'd better get after it, but even more money has been lost writing this team off too quickly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 157 Posted December 30, 2006 VERY early. If you've watched Tech at all, you know they score in bunches, and get far more possessions out of a game than normal teams. It's a timing offense, so I'm not shocked they're starting slow. They'd better get after it, but even more money has been lost writing this team off too quickly. Well, i think they just missed their opportunity. They had an interception and almost took it in before the guy fumbled. Now the Gophers are on the move again. This game is probably over. Raiders D just won't be able to make up the 4 possession difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted December 30, 2006 It's officially a rout. Minnesota up 28-0. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 157 Posted December 30, 2006 Bowl Record 9-4 Clemson -10 over UK 2 units UK's offense has been pretty good this year, but the numbers are a bit deceiving. They have put up huge numbers and points against bad defenses. When they face good defenses they struggle mightily. Florida - 7 points S. Carolina - 17 points LSU - 0 points Tennessee - 12 points Clemson only gives up 15 points per game. They are very solid on that side of the ball. Kentucky's strength on offense is passing the ball. Woodson is having a great season and has been very impressive. That being said, Clemson only gives up 166 yards a game through the air. If UK can't throw the ball they will be run off the field. On the other side of the ball Kentucky's defense gives up 29 points a game. This doesn't bode well against a Clemson team that scores an average of 33 a game (yes, I know this is inflated due to a few blowouts). As we all know, Clemson's strength on offense is running the ball with Spiller and Davis. They average 225 yards a game on the ground. UK gives up 189 yards a game on the ground. This spells potential disaster for the Wildcats. If Clemson decides to come out and play I think they will run UK off the field. They simply have too much talent and speed. I think Clemson will cover this number with ease. Oregon St. -3.5 over Mizzou 3 units There area few factors that lead me to this decision. 1) Mizzou has been hit hard by the flu this week. For the most part only backups got sick, but this still affects the practices and last minute adjustments. I think this may be a bigger factor than most people believe. 2) Mizzou is without DE Brian Smith. He was their top defensive playmaker. This is a huge loss for them. Without Smith I like the Beavers senior QB Moore to have time to make the right decisions and account for some nice yardage through the air. I always like to go with the team that has a senior QB in bowl games. 3) OSU should be able to run the ball effectively with Bernard. He is having a nice year and should continue that against a Mizzou defense that ranks 61st in the nation against the run. That number is somewhat deceiving since teams in the last 4 weeks of the season have run the ball down their throats. I don't even think they are the 61st best run D in the country. The loss of Smith hurts them even more in the run game. 4) Oregon State's D-line is tough. They rank 4th in the nation in sacks. I think they will be very disruptive and will force the young QB Daniel into some mistakes. Chase has had a very nice year, but he still is a sophomore, and this shows in some of his decision making. 5) Special teams is also an advantage for the Beavers. Serna is pretty reliable. 6) Lastly, OSU has some of the best athletes in the country. For these reasons I like the Beavs to win by at least a TD. Purdue -1 over Maryland 3 units This is as much a gut play as anything. I know that Purdue has beaten no one this year. That being said, I think they have faced a tougher schedule than Maryland (just my opinion). Line movement on this one appears to indicate the sharp money may be on Purdue. The public has been hitting Maryland ever since this line came out and the line has continued to climb on Purdue. I believe it started with Purdue +4 and now they are giving 1. Something is going on here. I will take a chance and go with the Boilermakers. TTech -6.5 over Minnesota (got in early) 4 units Over 65 1 unit Plain and simple, no defense will be played in this game. Texas Tech doesn't care about D and Minnesota's is just bad against the pass, which we all know is not what you want against a Texas Tech team. I think Harrell may get close to 500 yards passing this game. The extra practice time should do this young QB wonders. Also, hell, Minnesota almost lost to N. Dakota St. Too be honest, this line almost seems too low, which worries me. That being said, I couldn't pass up on it and just hope that Coach Leach has his boys ready to put on a show. GL to all!! Sometime things just don't go your way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LSUtiger 9 Posted December 30, 2006 Sometime things just don't go your way. Ouch, you ain't kidding. After a great night last night I bombed big today... Clemson (-3.5) 1Q; TT (-1.5) 1Q Blah, I'm calling it a day and starting fresh tomorrow... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 157 Posted December 30, 2006 It's officially a rout. Minnesota up 28-0. "If" they score here and they can stop the GOPHER once before halftime and try to cut the lead to 14...than maybe...just maybe there is a 1 in 100 shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted December 30, 2006 I guess it might be time to give up on Purdue winning this game. Let's go over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 157 Posted December 30, 2006 I guess it might be time to give up on Purdue winning this game. Let's go over. I got no "unit" on the game but i'm routing for my FFToday boys. GOOO PURDUE!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted December 30, 2006 With 21 pts in the 2nd quarter, this Purdue/Maryland game has a decent shot at the over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hardboy23 0 Posted December 30, 2006 VERY early. If you've watched Tech at all, you know they score in bunches, and get far more possessions out of a game than normal teams. It's a timing offense, so I'm not shocked they're starting slow. They'd better get after it, but even more money has been lost writing this team off too quickly. It's not getting any earlier.........WOW! The Gophers are on fire!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 157 Posted December 30, 2006 With 21 pts in the 2nd quarter, this Purdue/Maryland game has a decent shot at the over. What's the over and under? I though the Raiders Vs Gopher game would had hit the over by now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,145 Posted December 30, 2006 I guess it might be time to give up on Purdue winning this game. Let's go over. Trust me, it not over by any stretch. If mah Terps can remain devoted to the run then they could hold on to this game. Ball control baby, thats what they need. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted December 30, 2006 What's the over and under? I though the Raiders Vs Gopher game would had hit the over by now. I grabbed it at 54.5. By game time, it was around 56 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mack Daddy 0 Posted December 30, 2006 There is a LOT of money being lost on the MN/Texas Tech game tonight. This is the best I have seen the Gophers look in a LONG TIME.........TOO BAD I HAD NO FAITH IN MY HOME DOGS!!!! Thanks for reminding me! Tech looks like they don't even care being there at all... I will never figure out these bowl games for the life of me.... Tech on paper should rout Minny. I am a Big Ten homer and Minny is HORRIBLE and can't stop the run the pass, etc, etc. What a joke!!!!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 157 Posted December 30, 2006 Thanks for reminding me! Tech looks like they don't even care being there at all... I will never figure out these bowl games for the life of me.... Tech on paper should rout Minny. I am a Big Ten homer and Minny is HORRIBLE and can't stop the run the pass, etc, etc. What a joke!!!!!!!!!!!! 7 points for the Red Raiders at this point of the game is inexuseable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites