RicemanX 20 Posted June 28, 2007 Yi is going to be -120- times better than anyone else you pick after Durant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DBZFan2K 0 Posted June 28, 2007 Rumored deal per ESPNEWS Seattle receives Boston's #5 pick Delonte West Wally Szczerbiak Boston receives Ray Allen I hope it's not true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thin Spirit 0 Posted June 28, 2007 Rumored deal per ESPNEWS Seattle receives Boston's #5 pick Delonte West Wally Szczerbiak Boston receives Ray Allen I hope it's not true. If that's true.... Boston may never win again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DBZFan2K 0 Posted June 28, 2007 Ray Allen is 32 focking years old and is a redundancy when you consider they already have Pierce. On the bright side, this makes the Celtics an instant lock as a #7 seed and a first round exit. Thanks a lot Danny Ainge, you focking joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,995 Posted June 28, 2007 Rumored deal per ESPNEWS Seattle receives Boston's #5 pick Delonte West Wally Szczerbiak Boston receives Ray Allen I hope it's not true. Not sure why the celtics would do this. Seems to me it would turn them into NJ nets lite also the Hawks are focking morons. Here's Amare a 24 year old center that will destroy the east. Atlanta - "Nah we're good." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t.j 35 Posted June 29, 2007 nbadraft.net has Sacramento taking Corey Brewer Please let that happen!!!!@@#$#$ :sadbanana: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foamfinger 0 Posted June 29, 2007 :sadbanana: Great, now Sacto has 2 Brad Millers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t.j 35 Posted June 29, 2007 Great, now Sacto has 2 Brad Millers. Hawes will need some time. He's a beast, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,995 Posted June 29, 2007 Could Julian Wright fall to the Pistons? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t.j 35 Posted June 29, 2007 I'm sure the Celtics will get all the attention after this trade, but let's look at the Sonics roster now, in rough order of player quality: SF? Kevin Durant, age 18 C-F Chris Wilcox, age 24 SF Rashard Lewis, age 27 SF Jeff Green, age 20 F-G Wally Szczerbiak, age 30 PG Delonte West, age 23 PF Nick Collison, age 26 PG Luke Ridnour, age 26 C-F Danny Fortson, age 31 C Robert Swift, age 21 PG Earl Watson, age 28 F-G Damien Wilkins, age 27 Rashard Lewis is probably gone via FA after this year, so that will afford the Sonics some opportunity to balance out the team a little more. For now, I guess they start West, Szczerbiak, Lewis, Durant, and Wilcox? With the main subs being Green, Ridnour, and the big guys. They are going to play some seriously high-scoring games. Next year and beyond, maybe they will end up starting West, Durant, Green, Collison, and Wilcox. Good balance and talent, and they're all currently 26 or younger. Looks pretty good if Collinson develops and can stay healthy. (Also I have no idea if West is any good.) If Ridnour and Swift can stick around and develop, that could become a very good team. Of course, they'll probably be in Oklahoma by then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,995 Posted June 29, 2007 David Stern was so shocked he could barely spit out the 6er's pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted June 29, 2007 Great job by Atlanta. Horford and Law will both be long-term pros, and both will be able to give you minutes right away. Conley and Yi both went too high. Conley may be ok, but he's nowhere near the 4th best player in this draft. Yi has shown little more than the ability to make uncontested dunks in workouts. Wish those had been the criteria 25 years ago. I'd have been a millionaire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,995 Posted June 29, 2007 I'm sure the Celtics will get all the attention after this trade, but let's look at the Sonics roster now, in rough order of player quality: SF? Kevin Durant, age 18 C-F Chris Wilcox, age 24 SF Rashard Lewis, age 27 SF Jeff Green, age 20 F-G Wally Szczerbiak, age 30 PG Delonte West, age 23 PF Nick Collison, age 26 PG Luke Ridnour, age 26 C-F Danny Fortson, age 31 C Robert Swift, age 21 PG Earl Watson, age 28 F-G Damien Wilkins, age 27 Rashard Lewis is probably gone via FA after this year, so that will afford the Sonics some opportunity to balance out the team a little more. For now, I guess they start West, Szczerbiak, Lewis, Durant, and Wilcox? With the main subs being Green, Ridnour, and the big guys. They are going to play some seriously high-scoring games. Next year and beyond, maybe they will end up starting West, Durant, Green, Collison, and Wilcox. Good balance and talent, and they're all currently 26 or younger. Looks pretty good if Collinson develops and can stay healthy. (Also I have no idea if West is any good.) If Ridnour and Swift can stick around and develop, that could become a very good team. Of course, they'll probably be in Oklahoma by then. If they lose lewis that team looks terrible. They'll be lucky to win 25 games next year Great job by Atlanta. Horford and Law will both be long-term pros, and both will be able to give you minutes right away. Conley and Yi both went too high. Conley may be ok, but he's nowhere near the 4th best player in this draft. Yi has shown little more than the ability to make uncontested dunks in workouts. Wish those had been the criteria 25 years ago. I'd have been a millionaire. Agree with everything... other then you being a millionaire Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted June 29, 2007 I'm sure the Celtics will get all the attention after this trade, but let's look at the Sonics roster now, in rough order of player quality: SF? Kevin Durant, age 18 C-F Chris Wilcox, age 24 SF Rashard Lewis, age 27 SF Jeff Green, age 20 F-G Wally Szczerbiak, age 30 PG Delonte West, age 23 PF Nick Collison, age 26 PG Luke Ridnour, age 26 C-F Danny Fortson, age 31 C Robert Swift, age 21 PG Earl Watson, age 28 F-G Damien Wilkins, age 27 Rashard Lewis is probably gone via FA after this year, so that will afford the Sonics some opportunity to balance out the team a little more. For now, I guess they start West, Szczerbiak, Lewis, Durant, and Wilcox? With the main subs being Green, Ridnour, and the big guys. They are going to play some seriously high-scoring games. Next year and beyond, maybe they will end up starting West, Durant, Green, Collison, and Wilcox. Good balance and talent, and they're all currently 26 or younger. Looks pretty good if Collinson develops and can stay healthy. (Also I have no idea if West is any good.) If Ridnour and Swift can stick around and develop, that could become a very good team. Of course, they'll probably be in Oklahoma by then. West can play. He'll be a solid pro for a long time. My theory is that Ainge wants to deflect criticism of his buddy McHale as the dumbest GM in sports. If they lose lewis that team looks terrible. They'll be lucky to win 25 games next year Agree with everything... other then you being a millionaire Hell, I could dunk uncontested. Still can. Just that landing is a b!tch these days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boston 0 Posted June 29, 2007 I really like the deal the Celtics made (unlike the bad draft day deal last year). To add a 26 point per game player and not give up either Pierce and Jefferson is very solid. A 1-2-3 punch of Allen-Pierce-Jefferson is very impressive on the offensive side of things. The C's will be able to score with anyone. The key to this is they follow up with another move that adds something solid on the defensive side of things. With trade bait like Gerald Green and Theo Ratcliffe's contract they should be able to accomplish getting that type of player. Also, this move means role players like Gomes and Tony Allen will not be asked to do more than they can handle. The C's really didn't give up too much. The #5 pick was a big chip to deal but Wally is way overpaid and nothing special and Delonte West is a nice player but the type of player that you can always dig up. The C's also get a high #2 as well so hopefully they can dig something up between that pick and their other #2. This move makes the Celts very relevant again. The East is a mess and is very wide open. The Celts did not need to bring in another youngster not named Oden and Durant. They would be too young and that's not a recipe for success in the NBA. Right now they have a much better combination of veterans and youth. It will help them short term and also make it a better environment for the youngsters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,995 Posted June 29, 2007 Did that one eye freak just make fun of Memo for no reason? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Rodney Stucky... his last name might as well be White Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t.j 35 Posted June 29, 2007 I think Allen is glad to get out of Seattle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted June 29, 2007 I really like the deal the Celtics made (unlike the bad draft day deal last year). To add a 26 point per game player and not give up either Pierce and Jefferson is very solid. A 1-2-3 punch of Allen-Pierce-Jefferson is very impressive on the offensive side of things. The C's will be able to score with anyone. The key to this is they follow up with another move that adds something solid on the defensive side of things. With trade bait like Gerald Green and Theo Ratcliffe's contract they should be able to accomplish getting that type of player. Also, this move means role players like Gomes and Tony Allen will not be asked to do more than they can handle. The C's really didn't give up too much. The #5 pick was a big chip to deal but Wally is way overpaid and nothing special and Delonte West is a nice player but the type of player that you can always dig up. The C's also get a high #2 as well so hopefully they can dig something up between that pick and their other #2. This move makes the Celts very relevant again. The East is a mess and is very wide open. The Celts did not need to bring in another youngster not named Oden and Durant. They would be too young and that's not a recipe for success in the NBA. Right now they have a much better combination of veterans and youth. It will help them short term and also make it a better environment for the youngsters. I see what you're saying, but I don't get the trade. If they hang onto Green, Pierce and Allen do nothing but retard his progress. Dump Green, and you've dealt the player on the roster with the most upside. Jefferson's nice enough, but Green is the only guy they've got with superstar potential. Neither Pierce or Allen, or the duo, is going to make them a title contender. I'm not sure it makes them better than the Nets with a healthy Kristic. So short term, I see them winning a few more games but not really being any kind of force, even in the east. Long term, Pierce and Allen won't be around, and you've either lost Green or slowed his growth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,995 Posted June 29, 2007 Jesus, lay the fock off of Memo. Last time I check he was a pretty good player focking sparkling wiggles racist Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted June 29, 2007 I swear to god, Billy King is trying to kill me. Daequan Cook?!? Daequan Freakin' Cook!?! What was it that inspired this latest piece of lunacy. His inability to get into playing shape until half way through his only college season? The way he stepped up and hit the big shots that Ohio State needed to win the NCAA title? Maybe the teams need for yet another mid-sized guy without a clearly defined position? The guy is out of the league within 4 years. As for Thaddeus Young, hey, maybe he'll be ok. But why not draft the same guy (Thornton), who also happens to have solid college experience, a well-rounded offensive game, and is considered among the two or three best athletes in the draft? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DBZFan2K 0 Posted June 29, 2007 I see what you're saying, but I don't get the trade. If they hang onto Green, Pierce and Allen do nothing but retard his progress. Dump Green, and you've dealt the player on the roster with the most upside. Jefferson's nice enough, but Green is the only guy they've got with superstar potential. Neither Pierce or Allen, or the duo, is going to make them a title contender. I'm not sure it makes them better than the Nets with a healthy Kristic. So short term, I see them winning a few more games but not really being any kind of force, even in the east. Long term, Pierce and Allen won't be around, and you've either lost Green or slowed his growth. Long story short, if the Celtics don't get better defensively, they don't get better...period. I would've really liked them to get Sean Williams, between him and Rajon Rondo that would be two good young defensive studs. As it stands now Rondo is the only guy who plays great defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted June 29, 2007 Long story short, if the Celtics don't get better defensively, they don't get better...period. I would've really liked them to get Sean Williams, between him and Rajon Rondo that would be two good young defensive studs. As it stands now Rondo is the only guy who plays great defense. Problem is that neither Rondo or Williams could score in a women's prison waving a fist full of pardons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,995 Posted June 29, 2007 Problem is that neither Rondo or Williams could score in a women's prison waving a fist full of pardons. You're on fire tonight :highfive: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DBZFan2K 0 Posted June 29, 2007 Problem is that neither Rondo or Williams could score in a women's prison waving a fist full of pardons. That's why I referred to them as young defensive studs and not young offensive studs. HTH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,173 Posted June 29, 2007 Brandan Wright falling to the Bobcats! Nice trade by the Knicks to get rid of Stevie Franchise's bad contract and get Randolph. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DBZFan2K 0 Posted June 29, 2007 Brandan Wright falling to the Bobcats! And just got traded for Jason Richardson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boston 0 Posted June 29, 2007 I see what you're saying, but I don't get the trade. If they hang onto Green, Pierce and Allen do nothing but retard his progress. Dump Green, and you've dealt the player on the roster with the most upside. Jefferson's nice enough, but Green is the only guy they've got with superstar potential. Neither Pierce or Allen, or the duo, is going to make them a title contender. I'm not sure it makes them better than the Nets with a healthy Kristic. So short term, I see them winning a few more games but not really being any kind of force, even in the east. Long term, Pierce and Allen won't be around, and you've either lost Green or slowed his growth. I really don't like Green. He has some serious raw talent but he's a long ways away from being a player you can depend on. The holes in his game are huge and I think it will be a while before he really becomes a legit player. In this day and age it just doesn't make sense to spend five years on a guy who may or may not be good while also having to probably give him decent money at some point. The C's needed to get older this offseason. They had far too many young players. You can't develop them all, especially in a losing environment. Right now the C's have the potential to be dramatically better than last year. Allen is a legit All Star who was averaging 26 a game last year. That's serious production. If both Pierce and Allen stay healthy and Big Al continues to get better that's some impressive offensive firepower. As much as any other eastern conference's top 3. They can now also develop Rondo, Gomes, Allen and Perkins in a much healthier situation. They won't be asked to do more than they can do. The C's still have some flaws (especially on D). There's no doubt. There's still work to be done. If they were in the west there wouldn't be much to get too excited about. Yet, the East wide open and this is the type of move that puts the C's back into the playoff picture where anything can happen while still keeping the biggest piece of their future in Jefferson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,173 Posted June 29, 2007 And just got traded for Jason Richardson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boston 0 Posted June 29, 2007 Big Baby's an intriguing pick...especially for a second rounder. The C's can use some beef upfront and he has plenty of that. It will be interesting to see how his game translates to the next level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RicemanX 20 Posted June 29, 2007 And just got traded for Jason Richardson. WHat a great trade for the warriors. JRich is not the same player he was 2 years ago. The injuries killed him, he has to sit with a knee problem once a month. He is no longer a penetrator and exciting finisher, only a mid to long range shooter. He'll probably give the bobcats 15-20 pts a night, but nothing Gerald Wallace couldn't do AND not as good as keeping Wright. Oh, I forgot to mention that Warriors saved $10 million by trading JRich! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted June 29, 2007 alando tucker to the suns? phoenix is the only NBA team that i can stand to watch...this is fantastic!!! nice to see the bucks picked yao mings retarded brother..who said over and over that he WONT go to milwaukee...stupid fockers.... a brewer belongs in milwaukee... (id chew out the GM but i have NO clue who it is)... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,898 Posted June 29, 2007 As Predicted by me. Ainge's job and Doc's jobs are on the line and Ainge needed to get some older talent in Boston so they can win next year. Can they win it all? Fock no, but they can contend for the division now and keep fannies in the seats. I haven't watched the NBA on a consistent basis in 10+ years, so I can't comment on Allen or the trade. This may get me to watch a few more games this year, we'll see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,491 Posted June 29, 2007 The only thing regarding the Pistons that I have read is that they have possibly made a promise to Rodney Stuckey that if he is there at 15 they will take him. That however was like a week ago, so who knows. Good call. Congrats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeminiV 0 Posted June 29, 2007 WHat a great trade for the warriors. JRich is not the same player he was 2 years ago. The injuries killed him, he has to sit with a knee problem once a month. He is no longer a penetrator and exciting finisher, only a mid to long range shooter. He'll probably give the bobcats 15-20 pts a night, but nothing Gerald Wallace couldn't do AND not as good as keeping Wright. Oh, I forgot to mention that Warriors saved $10 million by trading JRich! I like J-Rich and am sorry to see him go, but in one fell swoop Mullin solved a lot of problems for the Warriors: Freed up money to sign Ellis and Biedrins. Brought in a young big man capable of playing at the Warriors' uptempo pace. Created an opening to bring Matt Barnes back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarheel Boy 0 Posted June 29, 2007 The Mavs have acquired Reyshawn Terry in a trade with Orlando. He was the player I was hoping the Mavs would get with their first pick instead of Nick Fazekas. Terry is a bit inconsistent, but I've heard and read nothing but positive things about him during the camps. He's athletic and something the Mavs needed. I think he'll improve his defensive intensity under Johnson. I loved seeing Josh McSuckass fall into the 2nd round. He should have left Dook last year when he would have been a lottery pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,995 Posted June 29, 2007 The Pistons took 3 guards in this draft. I have a feeling Rip or Chauncy won't be there this coming season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RicemanX 20 Posted June 29, 2007 I like J-Rich and am sorry to see him go, but in one fell swoop Mullin solved a lot of problems for the Warriors: Freed up money to sign Ellis and Biedrins. Brought in a young big man capable of playing at the Warriors' uptempo pace. Created an opening to bring Matt Barnes back. O OO I got more: 4. Give Monta Ellis a chance to start and get more PT 5. Have an excuse for a retarded #36 pick 6. Chance to bring Pietrus back as well 7. Have one of the most dynamic young teams in the league. BDavis, Ellis, Steven Jackson, Al Harrington, Biedrens, Wright Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,491 Posted June 29, 2007 The Pistons took 3 guards in this draft. I have a feeling Rip or Chauncy won't be there this coming season Maybe they just took the best guy they could each time. Chauncey is a FA, I'd be surprised if they still don't make a very strong offer to keep him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeminiV 0 Posted June 29, 2007 Brandan Wright falling to the Bobcats! Nice trade by the Knicks to get rid of Stevie Franchise's bad contract and get Randolph. I can't believe that the Blazers couldn't get a better deal. Great low-post scorers don't grow on trees. The Bulls couldn't put together something more enticing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted June 29, 2007 Big Baby's an intriguing pick...especially for a second rounder. The C's can use some beef upfront and he has plenty of that. It will be interesting to see how his game translates to the next level. I think he's a steal. Lottery pick last year. Committed to losing weight and got in nice shape. Had some injury issues and played with a lot less talent, but still showed what he can do. Big body, nice low post offensive skill set. Good aquisition. Not as athletic as guys like Boozer and Brand, but I think can deliver the same type production, albeit in limited minutes. I can't believe that the Blazers couldn't get a better deal. Great low-post scorers don't grow on trees. The Bulls couldn't put together something more enticing? Again, I don't think Chicago is as focused on getting a guy who needs the ball down low as people seem to think. But I agree that Portland should have been able to get more for him. Would have thought Dallas would be a player there, or Indiana. That's why I referred to them as young defensive studs and not young offensive studs. HTH. Understood, but in the NBA, you can't play more than one offensive liability at a time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites