listen2me 23 1,873 Posted May 25, 2007 Rank your top 15 WRs for this year. This is where I would take them, consistancy and injury risk coem into play. WRs are tough, it was tough for me to pick a clear cut #1 guy. 1. T. Holt (too consistant, too good.) 2. M. Harrison (too consistant, too good, I laugh every year when people say Wayne is now the #1, Yet again he out produces him, 9 more catches, 50 more yds, 3 more TDs. HAHAHAHA) 3. C. Johnson 4. S. Smith 5. L. Evans ( this guy is GOOD. Losman should improve again and his numbers should be good again) 6. D. Driver ( Always consistant, Favre's only real target again, He's good solid every game.) 7. L. Fitz 8. A. Boldin ( I like him better than Fitz as a player, but he doesn't score as much, or at least isn't a threat to do so as much.) 9. T. Owens (has to be in the top 10) 10. Roy Williams (numbers should drop slightly) 11. R Wayne 12. J Walker (Cutler should be good) 13. TJ Housh 14. M Colston ( a sophmore slump) 15. S. Moss/A. Johnson ManY good WRs this year, 1-11 and even some below can be a toss up. No clear top 5. More like a top 10 squeezed in a top 5. I won't be taking a WR early. Ill be happy with Driver or Evans as my #1 and guys like B. Edwards, R. Brown, S. Moss too go load up on in middle mid rounds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WKTSWAY 0 Posted May 25, 2007 I'm clearly not as high on Colston as everyone else is. I have to see him produce another year in order to take him in the top 30 WRs. I know you think putting him at 14 is low, and it is compared to a lot of others, but I just don't see it myself. My top 15 (early version) - again, hard for clear cut #1: 1. SSmith 2. Chad Johnson 3. Holt 4. Harrison 5. Wayne 6. Fitz 7. Evans 8. Driver 9. Boldin 10. Roy Williams 11. Walker 12. Owens 13. Burress 14. Housh 15. A. Johnson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pee-diddy 27 Posted May 25, 2007 No way Lee Evans deserves to be top 5. Not in that offense. That "O" won't be able to move the chains often enough to get the ball in Evans' hands. Plus a rookie RB? Evans in the top 10 might even be a stretch... top 15 is more realistic. The guy is certainly talented, no doubt. He's just a victim of what will probably be a mediocre offense. I'd take Fitz or T.O. over Evans any day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted May 25, 2007 1 SSmith - speedy freak with an attitude 2 Holt - Consistent #'s 3 CJ - No Chris Henry, 100% C Palmer all year 4 Wayne - More yards, same td's as Harrison this year 5 Fitz - Double digit td's for sure. Leinart will go to him a lot 6 Harrison - Still great numbers 7 Owens - Hard to let him go much lower. Romo will go to him a lot. 8 Evans - He must be very good to put up numbers on that team. Another year with Losman. 9 Walker - Cutler's arm, Javon's size and speed and over a year removed from ACL 10 Burress - Higher on him than others. Eli trusts him and he's big. 11 Roy - Calvin Johnson drops him here but he'll still be a good #1 ff wr. 12 Boldin - Will get his and he's more of a playmaker than Fitz. Not the same endzone threat as Fitz though. 13 Colston - He'll struggle at times but Brees will still get him involved. 14 Driver - I always overlook him and he always produces 15 H Ward - He a Roeth could have a great year together in the new offense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted May 25, 2007 Rank your top 15 WRs for this year. This is where I would take them, consistancy and injury risk coem into play. WRs are tough, it was tough for me to pick a clear cut #1 guy. 1. T. Holt (too consistant, too good.) 2. M. Harrison (too consistant, too good, I laugh every year when people say Wayne is now the #1, Yet again he out produces him, 9 more catches, 50 more yds, 3 more TDs. HAHAHAHA) 3. C. Johnson 4. S. Smith 5. L. Evans ( this guy is GOOD. Losman should improve again and his numbers should be good again) 6. D. Driver ( Always consistant, Favre's only real target again, He's good solid every game.) 7. L. Fitz 8. A. Boldin ( I like him better than Fitz as a player, but he doesn't score as much, or at least isn't a threat to do so as much.) 9. T. Owens (has to be in the top 10) 10. Roy Williams (numbers should drop slightly) 11. R Wayne 12. J Walker (Cutler should be good) 13. TJ Housh 14. M Colston ( a sophmore slump) 15. S. Moss/A. Johnson ManY good WRs this year, 1-11 and even some below can be a toss up. No clear top 5. More like a top 10 squeezed in a top 5. I won't be taking a WR early. Ill be happy with Driver or Evans as my #1 and guys like B. Edwards, R. Brown, S. Moss too go load up on in middle mid rounds. U lost me at CJ 3rd and SSmith 4th. A scenario doesn't exist where I would rank CJ above SSmith. Walker finished top 7 last year coming off the knee injury. Top 5 is where I think he will end up this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Vader 0 Posted May 25, 2007 I think you all are putting TO far to low. Look, we all hate him, but he proved last season, with inconsistancy at QB, that he can put up the numbers. He was second in my ppr league, behind Harrison, so why in the world would he be below the top 5 with a QB with more starts under his belt, and small improvments on the OL and whole team overall. I think ya'll are crazy if you don't put TO in the top 5. Just my opinion, and trust me, i can't stand him, but he is a gamer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big_Pete 0 Posted May 25, 2007 I'm doing top 12, seeing most leagues are 12 team leagues. I'll give a very brief reason as to why I have someone ranked where I do. Again, these are soooooo pre-mature that by the end of training camp and pre-season, most people's lists will have changed, so please refrain from the b1tching and moaning, but please offer constructive criticism #1- M. Harrison (#2 in both yards and TD's last year. Plus with Addai emerging, teams will have to respect the run more, which frees up the pass) #2- T. Owens (#1 in TD's, and only a few hundred yards off receiving lead. That was with Bledsoe for half the year. This year, given that Romo doesn't implode, he should be gold) #3- R. Wayne (#4 in TD's and #3 in yards. That makes him #3 overall. I expect more of the same this year) #4- C. Johnson (#1 in yards by 3 yards, # 5 in TD's. He was inconsistant last year, but he how much of it was injury/palmer? He very well could be top 3, but for now, he's #4) #5- T. Holt (#3 in TD's, but down a bit in yards. Another year, another stellar performance) #6- R. Williams (#3 in yards, and #5 in TD's. Johnson opposite of him should free him up a bit for more long TD's) #7- S. Smith (I know he's "too low", but I think Delhomme is slipping, and that's hurting Smiths #'s, which is a shame, cause he's arguably the best receiver in the game, but this is FF, and talent alone won't get it done) #8- J. Walker (2nd year back from ACL, 2nd year for him and Cutler. He did great with Plummer, so he'll do even beter with the stronger armed Cutler. Plus Shanahan said they are going back to the Elway era playbook) #9- D. Driver (good yards, good TD's. Lack of a receiver on the opposite side could hurt him a bit, and he could slide down come week 1) #10- T.J. Houshmandzadeh (#4 in TD's and lots of yards. Henry being gone should help him out a lot the first half of the season. Look for a few more TD's than he had last year because of it. He should probably be ahead of Driver) #11- L. Fitzgerald (it's hard to decide between him and Boldin, but Fitz gets more TD's, and he should have more yardage with Leinart being a 2nd year starter. Look for him to out performe Boldin by a decent amount) #12- A. Boldin / R. Moss (I can't decide who deserves this spot more. Probably Boldin, but you never know what with the Moss trade. Evaluating where Moss should go will be this years toughest decision bar none! And seeing I dont' have my crystal ball infront of me, I'm gonna call it a tie. Hell, it's early, we can do that) Ok you fockers, feel free to bash away Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Vader 0 Posted May 25, 2007 I'm doing top 12, seeing most leagues are 12 team leagues. I'll give a very brief reason as to why I have someone ranked where I do. Again, these are soooooo pre-mature that by the end of training camp and pre-season, most people's lists will have changed, so please refrain from the b1tching and moaning, but please offer constructive criticism #1- M. Harrison (#2 in both yards and TD's last year. Plus with Addai emerging, teams will have to respect the run more, which frees up the pass) #2- T. Owens (#1 in TD's, and only a few hundred yards off receiving lead. That was with Bledsoe for half the year. This year, given that Romo doesn't implode, he should be gold) #3- R. Wayne (#4 in TD's and #3 in yards. That makes him #3 overall. I expect more of the same this year) #4- C. Johnson (#1 in yards by 3 yards, # 5 in TD's. He was inconsistant last year, but he how much of it was injury/palmer? He very well could be top 3, but for now, he's #4) #5- T. Holt (#3 in TD's, but down a bit in yards. Another year, another stellar performance) #6- R. Williams (#3 in yards, and #5 in TD's. Johnson opposite of him should free him up a bit for more long TD's) #7- S. Smith (I know he's "too low", but I think Delhomme is slipping, and that's hurting Smiths #'s, which is a shame, cause he's arguably the best receiver in the game, but this is FF, and talent alone won't get it done) #8- J. Walker (2nd year back from ACL, 2nd year for him and Cutler. He did great with Plummer, so he'll do even beter with the stronger armed Cutler. Plus Shanahan said they are going back to the Elway era playbook) #9- D. Driver (good yards, good TD's. Lack of a receiver on the opposite side could hurt him a bit, and he could slide down come week 1) #10- T.J. Houshmandzadeh (#4 in TD's and lots of yards. Henry being gone should help him out a lot the first half of the season. Look for a few more TD's than he had last year because of it. He should probably be ahead of Driver) #11- L. Fitzgerald (it's hard to decide between him and Boldin, but Fitz gets more TD's, and he should have more yardage with Leinart being a 2nd year starter. Look for him to out performe Boldin by a decent amount) #12- A. Boldin / R. Moss (I can't decide who deserves this spot more. Probably Boldin, but you never know what with the Moss trade. Evaluating where Moss should go will be this years toughest decision bar none! And seeing I dont' have my crystal ball infront of me, I'm gonna call it a tie. Hell, it's early, we can do that) Ok you fockers, feel free to bash away I agree with everything, expecially TO at #2. I am in the minority however, in thinking that Boldin will be ahead of Fitz this season. Other than that, I like your top 12. Nice job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big_Pete 0 Posted May 26, 2007 I agree with everything, expecially TO at #2. I am in the minority however, in thinking that Boldin will be ahead of Fitz this season. Other than that, I like your top 12. Nice job. yeah, Boldin had a few hundred more yards than Fitz last year, but Fitz had a few more TD's than Boldin. I'll take the person who get's more TD's just cause yards are easier to catch up on than scores. It was hard for me to pick which of the 2 to put ahead of the other, but alas, I didn't want to tie them, I'd rather pick one and then tie the other with Moss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdm_1971 0 Posted May 26, 2007 i don't know how all you are so down on colston....... lets see they released Horn and made him the #1 guy they brought in meacum and they are a pass happy offense....... there is no way he should be left off the top 15....... he last past that point he will make a great # 1 or #2 and I think that is what you have to ask yourself when making list........ Housh is great but lets be honets he is a # 2 will remain a # 2 so I would take colston over him sorry I love housh too but if i can have a true # 1 wr over a # 2 that gets good #s i am going w/ the # 1 with the exception of wayne........ Colston had only one game last year where his lowest out put was 4 receptions ????????? so in ppr leagues that counts for something even CJ had games with lower out put so I dont care 2nd year or not he is on my cheat sheet..... but other then that the list look pretty good just dont know how anybody could say he wouldnt be in top 30???????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raider 84 29 Posted May 26, 2007 1. Holt 2. T.O. 3. Harrison 4. Smith 5. C Johnson 6. Fitzgerald 7. Walker 8. Williams 9. R. Moss 10. Wayne Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,620 Posted May 26, 2007 I also have Colston in the 15-20 range. What he did was just one year, there are many more proven and reliable guys i can pick ahead of him. Unless its a yahoo league and they have him at TE again, then i could see him as a top 5 WR/TE chosen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdubz 0 Posted May 26, 2007 smith holt chad harrison fitz TO wayne colston boldin roy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bishop82 61 Posted May 26, 2007 1. Steve Smith 2. Torry Holt 3. Marvin Harrison 4. Chad Johnson 5. Terrell Owens 6. Anquan Boldin 7. Larry Fitzgerald 8. Reggie Wayne 9. Donald Driver 10. Javon Walker 11. Randy Moss 12. Roy Williams 13. Hines Ward 14. Lee Evans 15. Andre Johnson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted May 27, 2007 If by now some of you guys have not learned to put Driver in the top 10 and certainly in the top 15, then you don't pay attention and like screwing up year in and year out. He is always a top 10 WR, hardly ever gets hurt, and gets passed to 10 times a game. He hasn't had a WR on the other side EVER. Why is that a problem now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RollinWithNolan 0 Posted May 27, 2007 Why no love for Reggie Brown (PHI) he finished in the top 15 last year in just his 2nd year....3rd year is the year WRs tend to go off too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruphus 0 Posted May 27, 2007 here goes.... T1 Harrison T1 Holt T1 Smith T1 Wayne T1 CJ T6 Owens T6 Fitzgerald T6 Boldin T9 Roy Williams T9 Donald Driver T9 TJ Hommamomma T12 Javon Walker T12 Joey Galloway T12 Andre Johnson I mostly always use a tier system, so individual rankings to me between similar valued players is worthless. Basically, any of those top 5 are my top 5, no particular order, same goes with the next tiers. I think the top 8 are pretty well covered, everyone knows them, and everyone has them pretty much ranked the same. Explanations for the rest.... Roy should actually see an improvement this year, year 2 of Martz era, year 2 of Kitna and a nice supporting WR cast should open up some holes in coverage for him. Donald Driver has Favre chucking him the ball, hard not to have him in the top 10, he is there almost by default. Joey Galloway and Andre Johnson "should" have improvements to their pigskin chuckers, and they had an absurd # of targets last year, and pretty good the years before. I can easily see them both improving, but not enough to warrant anything more than being a WR2. TJ gets man love cause he is the beneficiary of CJ, Palmer and Rudi getting most the attention. Walker did really good his first year in denver, and should be even better now that Cutler has a year under his belt. Flame Away! Why no love for Reggie Brown (PHI) he finished in the top 15 last year in just his 2nd year....3rd year is the year WRs tend to go off too. Uhm, not sure about your scoring system, but Reggie Brown was ranked 22nd in our leagues scoring set and 24th WR overall according to FFtoday's "Default Scoring" And WR's don't always "break out in their 3rd year" it's proven that 2nd-4th years are where "most" WR's see their potential get reached. He is just as likely to have a down year this year as he is to actually improve. I had Reggie last year, and he has some good games, but he's still got another year before I will even plug him into my top 20, especially considering the supporting WR talent around him. I mean, Kevin Curtis might help the team, but he isn't gonna demand double teams, or even a significant safety presence on his side of the field. Reggie has to get it done before he gets the rankings like you are asking for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryChinaski 1 Posted May 27, 2007 I think it is an interesting year for receivers. It seems to me that tope 8 or so, are pretty interchangeable. Most of the so-called studs were pretty up and down at some point or another, so no reason not to think the same this year. I really don't think this is the year to select a WR in the late first OR early second, it just doesn't seem worth while to me. My list. 1. Chad Johnson -- I think his problems early in the year were basically because of Cincy's O-Line problems. Once Palmer got it going, so did Chad. With Palmer 1 year removed from knee surgery, and a healthy O-Line, I think they all have career numbers. 2. Terrell Owens -- The guy was the best/most consistent fantasy receiver last year once Romo became the starter. Owners were pretty much able to count on Owens a little more than any other WRs during the second half of the season. Yeah, he is a year older... But they didn't add anyone to take any balls away from him, and the offense still seems to be just as potent. 3. Marvin Harrison -- Started off the year slowly, and I really want to put Reggie Wayne in this spot, but Harrison went off down the stretch last year. One of these years, Wayne will start to out produce him, but it doesn't really matter. Harrison will get his points, doesn't get hurt, so basically no risk involved. But pretty much interchangeable with Wayne right now, I would be happy with either. 4. Reggie Wayne -- See Harrison comments. Stud every year. 5. Torry Holt -- Torry Holt really left me hanging last year. Started off the year awesome, touchdowns almost every week. But started to cool off down the strech as Steven Jackson went on a rampage. But the Rams offense is pretty strong, so Torry still should have alot of TD/yardage opportunity. 6. Steve Smith -- This guy should be Number 1. Damn Delhomme has been bringing him down, but Steve basically gets it done by himself. When David Carr takes over mid-season, Steve Smith jumps to the top of the rankings. No Carr isn't that great, its just that Delhomme is just that horrible. 7. Javon Walker -- I'm very high on this guy this year. Cutler showed flashes of brilliance, and Javon was right along with him. Javon has all of the skills you could ask for in a receiver, its just that Denvers offense has been slightly inconsistent. That should all change this year. Cutler is the next great QB, the running game will finally get back to being dynamic with Travis Henry, so as they go-- so does Javon. He has as much potential to be the top Fantasy WR as anyone else, its just based on some of the other guys history than Walker slips this low. He is someone you want on your team this year. 8. Larry Fitzgerald -- This offense is on the move up. Leinart looks to be really good for a long time, and so does Fitz. It basically comes down to your scoring system, whether is favors yardage or TDs, but this guy is a TD machine--and is only getting better. His yardage and TDs will improve again this year, as this offense will be hard to stop. 9. Roy Williams -- Hard to say exactly what CJ will do to Roy's numbers. My guess is that Roy starts the year out great, but starts to slightly decline as the season goes. But with that said, he will still have a great year, but CJ will command alot of attention as the season progresses. 10. Donald Driver -- This guy just gets it done. He's not fancy, he's basically a winner by default. Favre likes to throw, he throws alot, and there is just not that much other talent to throw to. Driver led the league in YAC last year, look for him to continue to make big plays as Green Bay plays catch up this year. 11. Marques Colston -- New Orleans homer here, and let me tell you Drew loves this guy. Drew feeds him the ball, all game long. Single coverage, double coverage-- it doesn't matter. He is a huge target for Brees, in a extremely high powered offense, which equals high numbers for everyone. 12. TJ Housh -- Great offense, great QB, and a great number 1 WR getting all those number 1 CBs. Plus the fact that Chris Henry will be out for a while (who knows how long), so look for TJ's numbers to go up, along with the rest of the Bengals offense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texansfan 0 Posted May 27, 2007 U lost me at CJ 3rd and SSmith 4th. A scenario doesn't exist where I would rank CJ above SSmith. Walker finished top 7 last year coming off the knee injury. Top 5 is where I think he will end up this year. Yes actually there is a scenario that you would rank CJ over SSmith. If David Carr someone supplants Delhomme at QB I wouldn't touch him. Carr held back AJ for 3 years and I think AJ has more talent than Smith. And that being said I think AJ is a top 10 WR this year with Matt Schaub at QB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryChinaski 1 Posted May 27, 2007 Yes actually there is a scenario that you would rank CJ over SSmith. If David Carr someone supplants Delhomme at QB I wouldn't touch him. Carr held back AJ for 3 years and I think AJ has more talent than Smith. And that being said I think AJ is a top 10 WR this year with Matt Schaub at QB. Carr held back Andre Johnson? Give me a break. I'm sure it had NOTHING to do with that wonderful O-Line that the Texans refused to draft. Carr is a talented QB, who did not progress as he should have due to the horrible front office of the Texans. They refused to get him any help.. They liked to do things like pick Mario Williams over Reggie Bush, instead they make WAY past his prime Ahman Green even wealthier than he ever was. They are very intelligent, those Texans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texansfan 0 Posted May 27, 2007 Carr held back Andre Johnson? Give me a break. I'm sure it had NOTHING to do with that wonderful O-Line that the Texans refused to draft. Carr is a talented QB, who did not progress as he should have due to the horrible front office of the Texans. They refused to get him any help.. They liked to do things like pick Mario Williams over Reggie Bush, instead they make WAY past his prime Ahman Green even wealthier than he ever was. They are very intelligent, those Texans. David Carr sucks C0CK. Make all the excuses for him you want. I had to suffer through watching that turd for 4 years and it was NOT all the Oline. Funny how if he's so great when he became a FA there was so little interest that he had to sign on as a backup. Teams like Miami, Cleveland, Oakland, Minnesota all needed starters and not one of them showed interest. And yeah, you'll see how much AJ will be this year with a QB that can get him the ball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryChinaski 1 Posted May 27, 2007 David Carr sucks C0CK. Make all the excuses for him you want. I had to suffer through watching that turd for 4 years and it was NOT all the Oline. Funny how if he's so great when he became a FA there was so little interest that he had to sign on as a backup. Teams like Miami, Cleveland, Oakland, Minnesota all needed starters and not one of them showed interest. And yeah, you'll see how much AJ will be this year with a QB that can get him the ball. AJ is awesome, I know he is. But the Texans still have NO team around him. They continue to make horrible personnel moves after horrible personnel moves. I understand that, that is your team, and you have to take up for them, but they are just a horribly ran franchise. There is just no way around that. Ahman Green, anyone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Little Big Head 6 Posted May 28, 2007 AJ is awesome, I know he is. But the Texans still have NO team around him. They continue to make horrible personnel moves after horrible personnel moves. I understand that, that is your team, and you have to take up for them, but they are just a horribly ran franchise. There is just no way around that. Ahman Green, anyone? If Ahman Green stays healthy he will help the Texans a lot. He may be getting older but hes worlds better than Lundy, and Dayne. I expect Kubiak to get a lot out of him and for Green to have a productive year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ROYALWITCHEESE 0 Posted May 28, 2007 i don't know how all you are so down on colston....... lets see they released Horn and made him the #1 guy they brought in meacum and they are a pass happy offense....... there is no way he should be left off the top 15....... he last past that point he will make a great # 1 or #2 and I think that is what you have to ask yourself when making list........ Housh is great but lets be honets he is a # 2 will remain a # 2 so I would take colston over him sorry I love housh too but if i can have a true # 1 wr over a # 2 that gets good #s i am going w/ the # 1 with the exception of wayne........ Colston had only one game last year where his lowest out put was 4 receptions ????????? so in ppr leagues that counts for something even CJ had games with lower out put so I dont care 2nd year or not he is on my cheat sheet..... but other then that the list look pretty good just dont know how anybody could say he wouldnt be in top 30???????? Because now, instead of facing single coverage from each team's #2 bum corner, he's going to be facing each team's best corner with the coverage rolled in his direction (double teams). I watched him last year a lot, and I don't think he will be able to consistently beat double teams... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigmurd 0 Posted May 28, 2007 I see most people are sleeping on Lee Evans; he finished WR 6 & 8 in my two dynasty leagues last year and I cannot understand leaving him out of a top 12. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Some Guy 0 Posted May 28, 2007 1. Harrison (again) 2. T.O. (as long as Romo is QB - Romo may stink at times, but he finds T.O.) 3. Steve Smith 4. Holt 5. CJ - needs a few more TD's 6. Driver - who else is Favre going to throw to? 7. J Walker 9. Wayne 10. Fitz 11. Colston 12. Boldin I know this isn't how it will shake out, but this is how I will draft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raider 84 29 Posted May 28, 2007 No love for Randy, but I think he is in for a huge year. He is due for 12-15 tds. I don't expect the yards and receptions, but he will get his tds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites