7th Round Commentary

[Vikings4ever 550]

[Vikings4ever 550]

Rookie QBs tend to enjoy their TEs (insert Garcia joke here). Assuming Thomas and Steinbach don't die or something (you never know in Cleveland), the O-line has improved.

 

Not exactly thrilled about have 2 Browns, but I won't avoid a player (or target a player, for that matter) just because I have another player from their team on my team.

[Fumbleweed 543]

Rookie QBs tend to enjoy their TEs (insert Garcia joke here). Assuming Thomas and Steinbach don't die or something (you never know in Cleveland), the O-line has improved.

 

Not exactly thrilled about have 2 Browns, but I won't avoid a player (or target a player, for that matter) just because I have another player from their team on my team.

 

If I was going to pick a TE there, Winslow wouldn't have been my choice.

[Da Bomb 0]

yeah im not a fan of the winslow choice. honestly if this was a TE mandatory league, i wouldve just been ok with him being picked there. i dont know how he fits in with these receivers here. galloway and the crotch are 1000+ yard guys with a handful of TDs. i dont see winslow contending in yards or beating them by significantly enough in TDs. as fumble said, if i was going to take a TE soon (which there is one i may soon consider), thats not even close to the one i wouldve taken. to be fair, the point about rookie QBs is legit, but i dont believe quinn will be starting from day one.

 

ive been wondering when someone would take a raiders back, and which one it'd be. im baffled on that situation. nan?

 

i was also wondering when berrian would go. for the first half of the year, he was a top 5 WR last year, now i dont even see him in half the people's top 30s. he was in my next like 7 WRs to look at.

[Fumbleweed 543]

yeah im not a fan of the winslow choice. honestly if this was a TE mandatory league, i wouldve just been ok with him being picked there. i dont know how he fits in with these receivers here. galloway and the crotch are 1000+ yard guys with a handful of TDs. i dont see winslow contending in yards or beating them by significantly enough in TDs. as fumble said, if i was going to take a TE soon (which there is one i may soon consider), thats not even close to the one i wouldve taken. to be fair, the point about rookie QBs is legit, but i dont believe quinn will be starting from day one.

 

ive been wondering when someone would take a raiders back, and which one it'd be. im baffled on that situation. nan?

 

i was also wondering when berrian would go. for the first half of the year, he was a top 5 WR last year, now i dont even see him in half the people's top 30s. he was in my next like 7 WRs to look at.

 

When Grossman is playing well, Berrian's numbers are very good. When Grossman struggles......well, you get it.

[Vikings4ever 550]

There's another TE I considered, but his QB situation makes me .

 

Galloway and the Crotch were about the last in this tier of WRs in my opinion. Berrian was a possibility, but he doesn't really excite me. I think Winslow has only scratched the surface of his potential.

 

Winslow put up 875 yards last year, on a twitchy knee. A better supporting class, plus a few more TDs (hardest thing to predict) should equal a damn good year for K2.

[Fumbleweed 543]

There's another TE I considered, but his QB situation makes me .

 

Galloway and the Crotch were about the last in this tier of WRs in my opinion. Berrian was a possibility, but he doesn't really excite me. I think Winslow has only scratched the surface of his potential.

 

Winslow put up 875 yards last year, on a twitchy knee. A better supporting class, plus a few more TDs (hardest thing to predict) should equal a damn good year for K2.

 

Good grief, man.....if you wanted Jimmy Kleinsasser that bad, you should've just picked him.......

[Vikings4ever 550]

Good grief, man.....if you wanted Jimmy Kleinsasser that bad, you should've just picked him.......

No name dropping!!!

 

 

 

[Fumbleweed 543]

You used the banana. Clash is proud of you.

[Vikings4ever 550]

You used the banana. Clash is proud of you.

I could always you this smilie.

[Da Bomb 0]

There's another TE I considered, but his QB situation makes me .

 

Galloway and the Crotch were about the last in this tier of WRs in my opinion. Berrian was a possibility, but he doesn't really excite me. I think Winslow has only scratched the surface of his potential.

 

Winslow put up 875 yards last year, on a twitchy knee. A better supporting class, plus a few more TDs (hardest thing to predict) should equal a damn good year for K2.

 

i think its pretty clear that we're thinking of the same TE. i just wonder though, can that QB situation really be worse than winslows? unless you are talking about justin peele from miami, im thinking probably not. i agree that talentwise, kwii may have only scratched his surface, but arent there already injury reports with him too? i guess you might have assumed you wouldnt get him at 8.12, but then again, if i had had to bet on it, i wouldve said you could. eh, interesting pick at least. youre right that the WR group is dropping off quickly. but id personally still probably have had about 10 others with 15-20 more projected points than kwii on my board.

[Vikings4ever 550]

i think its pretty clear that we're thinking of the same TE. i just wonder though, can that QB situation really be worse than winslows? unless you are talking about justin peele from miami, im thinking probably not. i agree that talentwise, kwii may have only scratched his surface, but arent there already injury reports with him too? i guess you might have assumed you wouldnt get him at 8.12, but then again, if i had had to bet on it, i wouldve said you could. eh, interesting pick at least. youre right that the WR group is dropping off quickly. but id personally still probably have had about 10 others with 15-20 more projected points than kwii on my board.

A QB1 that sucks and has legal trouble, and a QB2 that really sucks vs. a QB1(?) that's an unknown and a QB2(?) that sucks.

 

K2 and surgery during the offseason, but should be back in time for training camp.

 

I got a kickass WR1, a good WR2, and a good WR3. I don't see Winslow doing any worse than last year (baring injury), and has a pretty good upside. I'll take that from a WR4.

 

As for if K2 would be there for my next pick,

[NAn 39]

I actually have no problem with the winslow pick...this is area where we all say with each of our picks 'I expect about 1000/6 from whoever' and most turn out 900/5.

 

If the Soldja can improve just slightly he'll exceed that.

 

Camp just started so no real news on Raiders running game...last word was it's supposedly Jordan's job to lose as long as he's healthy, which is obviously the big question and just don't know yet.

 

If I was to make a prediction: likely RBBC, so here in 7th, decent pick.

 

Berrian's about right here as well, just not a guy I'm too high on...just not sold on Bears QB situation.

[Clash of the Titans 1]

wow....i thought i was going to get crucified for today and there was hardly any insults thrown my way....

 

 

my former company has been bought out ( merged technically -lol) by at&t and we are going through the 1st big wave of change here in late may.....they shut down our internet all afternoon without notification....i tried to get on several times all afternoon.... but the page here wouldn't load correctly......by the time i finally got in touch with tessa ( nice call remote-lol ) it was almost 8 pm cst....so i sincerely apologize fore the delay...everything should be fine tomorrow internet wise...but if it is my pick...anyone is welcome to call or text me at 205-413-6719 and i'll give you a pick if you don't hear from me within an hour when it is my turn

 

 

i am just exhausted from a very long day i'll give some insight from the 5th round and on tomorrow...i like deangelo a lot this year and though he would be a nice value pick there... they are building their offense around him the new OC really likes him from what i understand....- most people didn't see him in college because he played at memphis but i saw plenty of him and i think he's a stud...a poor man's bush....and i think he can put up 1400/10- he was drafted to carry the load....i am not worried about the other back- he'll get hurt as always and just hasn't been the same since that preseason microfracture injury aginst the pats his rookie year

 

at 6 i barely went with moss over chambers....just too unsure of miami''s qb situation...if green was there i would have went with chambers.......moss is the ultimate boom or bust but if he can stay free of a hammy issue i think he'll finish 16-20...not bad for a #3 wr

 

 

great draft so far...........i have really enjoyed the insight.....i hatre i have been so busy this week i haven't added much...will do more of that over the weekend

[Miller_Time_21 0]

I'm out till early afternoon and have sent lists for my 7th and 8th picks to Jetdoc.

[remote controller 143]

Kevin Jones will have to do as my #4 rb. The crop of wideouts left can wait, and there is a boatload of equal projected value there. Lump that in with equal valued TE's, in this non-mandatory format, and we'll all have plenty of time later to scoop them up. Three other backs were tempting here, but came with their own split times concerns. Question here was, were they going to get equal time, cutting their value even more.

[robb 81]

Marvelous selection in K. Jones!!

 

I was contemplating selecting him with 7.8, but you beat me to it. For a player who by mid-season will be the starter on a prolific offense, a 7th round choice is a steal, IMO. I am sure some T/. Bell owners will disagree, but after watching him here in Colorado for 3 years, Bell is a speedy, not-every-down player who will get lost in Detroit.

 

Great analysis RC and a huge "value" pick in the 7th!!

[Fumbleweed 543]

Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus, Amdeus,

 

Oh-oh-oh

 

Amadeus............

[Da Bomb 0]

im happy to see kj off the board because hes one of a few RBs left that are in situations i know nothing about but wouldve felt compelled to take for the upside in the next few rounds.

[Jetdoc 20]

I would've taken Jones at 7.07 if he was still there, so there's no worries, Bombo. I had a hard time choosing between him and LenDale at 6.06.

 

Interesting choice with Winslow at 7.01 in a draft that doesn't require TE's. Do you guys think that he will put up numbers similar to the WR's that are still available on the board?

[Jetdoc 20]

Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus, Amadeus, Amdeus,

 

Oh-oh-oh

 

Amadeus............

 

I sent him an e-mail - hopefully he's around this morning.

[Clash of the Titans 1]

ahh hass is an easy choice for me here...i was going to take a flyer on KJ but he was taken just ahead of me by remote of course .....i know he lost djax and the drunk tight end but the holmgren WCO is one of the best in the game at producing points...the rebuilt line should be able to better protect him this year....also think branch and the other two wrs will be just fine...they play in a division set up for lots of shootouts....i think hass represents good value.....i would much rather have him than one of the up-and-comers-may have been able to get him a round later but i'll take him here...almost took another qb that will likely go next but......well nevermind

[remote controller 143]

I would've taken Jones at 7.07 if he was still there, so there's no worries, Bombo. I had a hard time choosing between him and LenDale at 6.06.

 

Interesting choice with Winslow at 7.01 in a draft that doesn't require TE's. Do you guys think that he will put up numbers similar to the WR's that are still available on the board?

No I don't. I was tempted to grab a different TE, then decided just that. There were still a handful, or so, Wr which will produce more. (yardage for sure....Td's is another question and that's likely the reason for Winslow.)

[NAn 39]

Real nice pick with Hass...would not have made it back.

 

KJones also a nice pick, with Bell in tow I was considering taking him at some pt, but really wasn't thinking for another rnd or 2...wil note him going this early.

 

There's a couple players I'm surprised are still there, so of course I expect them to go in next few picks...almost assuredly one of them won't get past Bomb.

 

Wade Wilson...shh

[Fumbleweed 543]

Donde esta el Doctor of Jets??

[Da Bomb 0]

nice pick with hass. he graded out almost dead even with kitna for me, along with 2 other QBs still there. the thing for me is he seems to have the least upside of the 4. he kinda tops out around 3400 yards and mid 20s in TDs. just a nice safe bet for a QB in the 7-10 range imo. then again, people forget that he was really doing well last year before the injury and may have been a top 5 guy, but with djax gone and SA healthy again, i think we see a refocus on the run game. solid pick either way.

 

yay for overanalysis. must mean we are getting NOwhere today.

[Jetdoc 20]

Sorry guys - got pulled into an hour and half meeting, so I just missed Clash's pick.

[Da Bomb 0]

finally a pick. and an interesting one. i think thats the last team with a RB taken. funny thing is green bay has had about 5 decent RBs for a couple weeks each the last few years, and the OL is pretty solid, so someone there may produce. i wondered who would be the first one taken, but i figured morency. another pick i am happy to see because its one of those RBs i wont feel compelled to take, just because.

[Miller_Time_21 0]

Jet, I am back and will make my pick when I come up as long as it comes before I go golfing later.

[robb 81]

Glenn- he does back-up TO, but one never knows when that "hothead" will explode. And, I believe there are enough balls to go around in Dallas this year. And...he is projected as having the most points who is available at this time.

 

I had another WR in mind, but thought I would wait and see where he goes according to you all. Or, maybe he will still be there next round!

[Da Bomb 0]

good pick with glenn, he was definitely the top WR left on my board.

 

i had a very hard time choosing between 2 QBs here, the two i have basically even with kitna and hasselbeck. in the end i went with someone i think is slightly riskier but with a skies-the-limit upside. i thought about waiting, but im almost positive 1 or both QBs wouldve been gone before my next pick, and with glenn gone there was no one i was really dying to take here, so it was time to make a decision. im not going to pretend like i expect 4000/30 from leinart, but i have him at about 3500/24. its still a big improvement from last year but arizona is a team i expect to improve in huge huge ways this year, and i'll be happy to get edge and/or leinart in any draft. the biggest reason for picking him over the other guy in the end was the schedule. leinart has pitt and balt in weeks 3-4 but then it eases up, and the second half and playoff schedule are AWESOME. my teams always take a few weeks to get going anyways. i would take leinart and look for a similar explosion to carson palmer's second full year as a starter.

[Miller_Time_21 0]

Leinart was a horriable pick!!! Completely awful!!! In other words, I had him pegged for 7.11

 

Back to the drawing board I guess. Great pick Bomb, he's my target late QB this year.

[robb 81]

Leinert-great selection here.

 

He has an easy schedule and I expect almost 4,000 yards from him. New rookie on the line, one more year for Edge to keep defense honest, and I think Leinert will be solid. Number 8 QB on my list.

[Jetdoc 20]

I knew that everyone that didn't have a QB so far was targeting Leinart soon, and I almost took him (for value purposes) with my last pick.

 

I just couldn't justify it with my relatively shaky situation at RB, especially when you see how the next tier of RB's kind of drops off...

[Da Bomb 0]

homo was the other QB i was considering. he had far better stats last year than leinart, so people suddenly thinking of 4000 and stuff for leinart is a pretty huge jump. i think homo is a little safer, but his schedule is much tougher, and im pretty worried about the holder thing last year really staying in his head and bothering him all season. even so, he was that last QB i would have wanted to count on as a starter. i think i actually have homo projected for slightly more points than leinart.

[Miller_Time_21 0]

The QB run is ON!!!

 

Really wanted Leinart ,but will settle for Little Manning. He is on the hot seat in NYC, and seems to be everyone whipping boy. That's OK, I think he will bounce back just fine. only 2 years ago he finished as a top 5 QB and the sky was the limit, I'll take that at the end of the 7th.

[Da Bomb 0]

the luster has really worn off on elisha, it seems. glad to see people are catching on. i just cant get excited about him or the giants. i have him looking at like 3400/22/17, just very average numbers. i actually have 5 QBs available right now who i have projected to finish with more points than him. he projects as a borderline starter for me, very inconsistent. dont forget that he started all 16 last year and had just 3200/24, and about 500/6 of that was in two absolutely awful garbage 4th quarters. with coughlin still around and tiki gone now, i see big problems for the giants this year. i would hate to be relying on a pair of them in my usual starting lineup, personally.

 

i dont mean to bash on the eli pick. i actually thought he would be gone already. just not a guy i will have anything to do with again this season.

[Fumbleweed 543]

the luster has really worn off on elisha, it seems. glad to see people are catching on. i just cant get excited about him or the giants. i have him looking at like 3400/22/17, just very average numbers. i actually have 5 QBs available right now who i have projected to finish with more points than him. he projects as a borderline starter for me, very inconsistent. dont forget that he started all 16 last year and had just 3200/24, and about 500/6 of that was in two absolutely awful garbage 4th quarters. with coughlin still around and tiki gone now, i see big problems for the giants this year. i would hate to be relying on a pair of them in my usual starting lineup, personally.

 

i dont mean to bash on the eli pick. i actually thought he would be gone already. just not a guy i will have anything to do with again this season.

 

I'm not real high on him, either........decent backup QB, but that's about it. He needs another receiver to step up and become a playmaker. Maybe that happens.......

[Jetdoc 20]

I think that he's a medicore QB, but one with a potential upside that many of the mediocre QB's don't possess anymore.

[Miller_Time_21 0]

you guys are as tough on Eli as the NY media.

 

I think he'll be a top 10 QB. Not more, not less. But will be a solid starter.