Slothman 0 Posted August 4, 2007 My league is in a debate right now whether or not to award individual players for return TDs. Many argue that special teams points should not be included, while others argue differently. Has your league faced a similar situation? What are your thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted August 4, 2007 I would say yes. First, how many return guys will actually be in an owner's starting lineup each week? Secondly, it's not like there are tons of return TD's each week. If you have a Reggie Bush and the Saints throw him back to field a punt late in a game and he breaks one, why shouldn't his owner be rewarded? It's a score, and a damn tough score to boot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slothman 0 Posted August 4, 2007 I would say yes. First, how many return guys will actually be in an owner's starting lineup each week? Secondly, it's not like there are tons of return TD's each week. If you have a Reggie Bush and the Saints throw him back to field a punt late in a game and he breaks one, why shouldn't his owner be rewarded? It's a score, and a damn tough score to boot. For one, it's not like he is getting points for return yards, why should he get points for return TDs? That is what people in my league are arguing, at least. I could go either way on this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted August 4, 2007 For one, it's not like he is getting points for return yards, why should he get points for return TDs? That is what people in my league are arguing, at least. I could go either way on this. Like I said, it's tough way to score, it doesn't happen all too often so I would vote to have the score count. Plus, it adds a layer of scoring to make things more interesting and it also bumps up the value of players like Devin Hester who otherwise wouldn't even be drafted. My league doesn't give retrun yardage points but we do count all scores, even return TD's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cretins 22 Posted August 4, 2007 Personally, I don't see why anyone wouldn't want to reward for the return. The play was made, the ball crassed into the end zone, and points are awarded to that team in real life. Why wouldn't that play carry over to your league? Here's a question for you. Do you get points if your D intercepts or picks up a fumble and runs it back for a TD? How is that any different than a return? Did you already go through the same arguments for D? Why not let that be your guide. If you get points for a defensive TD, then your return most certainly should to. If D doesn't count, then don't do returns. Simple. Use the same logic as defense. Problem solved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
truebigdog 0 Posted August 4, 2007 If you use IDP's yes, but if you use D/ST then the TD goes to the D/ST as he's a member of the special teams unit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
49ER MAN 0 Posted August 4, 2007 My league is in a debate right now whether or not to award individual players for return TDs. Many argue that special teams points should not be included, while others argue differently. Has your league faced a similar situation? What are your thoughts? I would say yes. In our 12 team auction league, we have the rule that awards D/ST 6 points for a kick/punt return TD and if you start the player in your lineup that had that TD, you get another 6 points so it counts double. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratmel 4 Posted August 4, 2007 One of my leagues does this. The rationale is that defense is defense, special teams points for yardage and TD's go to the player. If you've got the onions to start a RB or WR kick return specialist then he oughtta get the points. It generates an interesting twist on the usual stuff. A guy in this league actually drafted 5 return men last year, Welker, Hall, Drummond, JJ Arrington and Rock Cartwright, then got Hester later as a FA. Who knew? He didn't win the league, but we sure do have a lot of fun with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twinsdad 66 Posted August 4, 2007 If you use IDP's yes, but if you use D/ST then the TD goes to the D/ST as he's a member of the special teams unit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PunkRockRedneck 8 Posted August 4, 2007 Our league actually awards points to both the team defense AND the individual player (we don't use IDP). So if you had the Bears D and Hester in your lineup, you're a happy man. It sounds nuts to most I'm sure, but like it was stated earlier, if someone has the marbles to actually start someone like Hester or D. Hall as a WR, why not give them the points? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
truebigdog 0 Posted August 5, 2007 Our league actually awards points to both the team defense AND the individual player (we don't use IDP). So if you had the Bears D and Hester in your lineup, you're a happy man. It sounds nuts to most I'm sure, but like it was stated earlier, if someone has the marbles to actually start someone like Hester or D. Hall as a WR, why not give them the points? One of my leagues does this. The rationale is that defense is defense, special teams points for yardage and TD's go to the player. If you've got the onions to start a RB or WR kick return specialist then he oughtta get the points. It generates an interesting twist on the usual stuff. A guy in this league actually drafted 5 return men last year, Welker, Hall, Drummond, JJ Arrington and Rock Cartwright, then got Hester later as a FA. Who knew? He didn't win the league, but we sure do have a lot of fun with it. If you don't use IDP's how can you have Hester in your lineup??? He's a defensive back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratmel 4 Posted August 11, 2007 If you don't use IDP's how can you have Hester in your lineup??? He's a defensive back. No, no, you're right - my bad. He got Terence Wilkins- Colts WR. I just had Hester on the brain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rebooters 1 Posted August 11, 2007 hester is now a WR too. check it. Yes absolutely the individual should get points in addition to the def/st getting points for the score. It adds a bit of value to some guys who return balls. This is my opinion and i stick to it, however, i do believe that there isnt a right or a wrong in a scoring system. All i say is that you should know your system and draft/manage accordingly. Remember a few years back when dante hall returned like 3 kicks in 3 weeks(something close to this), well someone in my league picked him up on a hunch after he did this once and they plugged him in at WR. not only did they get a few points for his WR numbers but they got big points for his td returns...we score bonus for long tds. If i were in your league i would vote yes because it adds a bit more to the complexity of the league and it aint a bad thing. Really this shouldnt be a big deal because like others above mention, this doesnt happen all that often. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dcOne 2 Posted August 11, 2007 My league is in a debate right now whether or not to award individual players for return TDs. Many argue that special teams points should not be included, while others argue differently. Has your league faced a similar situation? What are your thoughts? Will some owners in your league get points for individual players, and some not get points? It's like arguing "Should there be a point per reception?", "Should QB's get 6 pts for all TD's?" The bottom line is, it doesn't matter whether there is or isn't points for return yards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snowman_42_98 0 Posted August 11, 2007 All TDs should be worth something, no matter how they happen....special teams, offensive fumble recovery, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 20 Posted August 11, 2007 The D/ST AND the player should be rewarded for the 6pts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mephisto 15 Posted August 11, 2007 The D/ST AND the player should be rewarded for the 6pts. That's how my league has done it for 11-years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
49ER MAN 0 Posted August 11, 2007 The D/ST AND the player should be rewarded for the 6pts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites