Zackattack 0 Posted October 5, 2007 You are offered a trade of Berrian for S.Young. This was Wednesday. At this point we knew nothing of the possible Henry suspension. I have Berrian and I am desparate for backs. Last night as the offer is sitting there still I read about henry and his positive test. I send the trade through. I thought it was a no brianer. Am I shady? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted October 5, 2007 No. It looks legit to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted October 5, 2007 you betta get the fock out of here and accept that thing before the young owner reads the news this morning? RUN FOREST!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy 0 Posted October 5, 2007 If he left the trade open on a web site, then that's his responsibility. If you used commissioner abilities to process the trade just because noone had officially called if off, then yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted October 5, 2007 Shady? Yes. Ethical? Probably not Shrewd? Absolutely. The rule of thumb is that if you offer a trade, you are responsible for keeping an eye on the players in question and withdrawing if it becomes a problem for you. If you are offered the trade, you reject it if things change on your side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mephisto 15 Posted October 5, 2007 It's neither shady nor unethical. It's no one's fault that Henry tested positive. Focking stop making mountains out of molehills, you big fat pussies. Criminy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zackattack 0 Posted October 5, 2007 I hear you guys. I am the commish and I will hear sh*t for it for sure. Regardless if he continues to fight the suspension he might not play to much right away anyway. I have lost the backs below to injuries. I am left with Dayne, Selvin, Pittman, DeAngelo, Jordan and SJAX. I have scraps to choose from until Jordan and SJAX get back. SJAX Duece Lamont C'mon Selvin rip it up!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killersquids 3 Posted October 5, 2007 I am commish in my league and I've thought about what to do if this type of situation arose. To take it a step further, let's say the following trade is proposed today: Addai for Moss. On sunday, Moss tears his ACL and is out for the year. The Moss owner immediately logs in and accepts the trade. What do you do? Personally, I wouldn't allow this trade. How can you justify trading a stud back for a player that will never see the field. I don't want to babysit the owners but I couldn't let something like this through. Then the question is asked....where do you draw the line? That's what I've been trying to decide b/c this situation will arise at some point. I'm thinking that any trade that was offered one week must be agreed upon by both owners again the following week. In other words if a trade was proposed this week and accepted next week, the owner that originally proposed the trade can back out. I guess what I'm saying is that once the games start on sunday, all proposed trades that are "out there" are nullified. As to the original poster, that's a tough call. I think it's on the shady side. People have lives outside fantasy football, and to expect an owner to stay on top of a story that breaks mid week is asking too much. I probably don't allow the trade (unless the young owner still wants to go thru with it). FLAME AWAY! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mephisto 15 Posted October 5, 2007 I am commish in my league and I've thought about what to do if this type of situation arose. To take it a step further, let's say the following trade is proposed today: Addai for Moss. On sunday, Moss tears his ACL and is out for the year. The Moss owner immediately logs in and accepts the trade. What do you do? I let the trade go through. End of story. It's inexcusable that the team owner would not know/check on Moss' status before accepting the trade. INEXCUSABLE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeelingMN 273 Posted October 5, 2007 I am commish in my league and I've thought about what to do if this type of situation arose. To take it a step further, let's say the following trade is proposed today: Addai for Moss. On sunday, Moss tears his ACL and is out for the year. The Moss owner immediately logs in and accepts the trade. What do you do? Personally, I wouldn't allow this trade. How can you justify trading a stud back for a player that will never see the field. I don't want to babysit the owners but I couldn't let something like this through. Then the question is asked....where do you draw the line? That's what I've been trying to decide b/c this situation will arise at some point. I'm thinking that any trade that was offered one week must be agreed upon by both owners again the following week. In other words if a trade was proposed this week and accepted next week, the owner that originally proposed the trade can back out. I guess what I'm saying is that once the games start on sunday, all proposed trades that are "out there" are nullified. As to the original poster, that's a tough call. I think it's on the shady side. People have lives outside fantasy football, and to expect an owner to stay on top of a story that breaks mid week is asking too much. I probably don't allow the trade (unless the young owner still wants to go thru with it). FLAME AWAY! I agree with Mephisto. You have to hold the respective owners accountable for their decisions. I never keep a deal on the table over the weekend for this very reason. If other owners don't have the wherewithal to track the trade, or the foresight to acknowledge the possibility things could go wrong, then they'll have to deal with the consequences. As commish, you shouldn't be the only one that has to put together a thought or two on how to properly manage a team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fantasybubba 0 Posted October 5, 2007 Most sights have offers sit out there for 2 days ....such as on ESPN. Most people email each other and work the trade and don't offer on the website. However in Selvin Young for Berrian it is to be assumed to be fair....no one knows what Selvin will do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VaTerp 0 Posted October 5, 2007 When did all these whiny POOOOOOOOSAAAAAYYSSSSSSS start playing fantasy football. IF you propose or accept a trade you are responsible for what happens afterward. PERIOD. Sh!t happens. Its nobody fault but injuries, suspensions, and stuff happens to all of us. You just hope its not one of your players. Before you accept a trade you do your due diligence to get all the info you can. If something happens after you accept it, TOUGH LUCK. IF you propose a trade and leave it out there then something happens and the other owner accepts it before you cancel it. TOUGH LUCK. Yes, its a game often among friends. And yes, its for fun. But its also a COMPETITION. Man up and stop or find a more suitable hobby like gardening or shopping. Signed, Pissed off Henry owner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellfish21 1 Posted October 5, 2007 Never propose a trade and just let it sit there. It's neither immoral, unethical or shady to accept that trade. It's stupid for him to not cancel it. If my trades aren't accepted or denied within 2 or 3 days, I cancel them for this exact reason. A guy could get in trouble with the law (any Bengal), could test postive for something (like Henry) or could just fall down and get hurt at home. By leaving the trade out there, you are just giving someone else control of your team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellfish21 1 Posted October 5, 2007 Also, you shouldn't be too quick to deny trades for this very same reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted October 5, 2007 Yesterday I got offered a trade that included Young, who I own, my dynasty league. The deal included Ced Benson from the other guy. I wasn't completely happy with the trade and counteroffered, with Young included as part of the deal. When I hit "Offer" I stopped for a second to ask, why am I getting Ced Benson for Selvin Young? (FWIW, I'm not a big Benson fan either, I already have Garrett Wolfe on my roster figuring that Ced's 2.8 ypc azz is gonna get benched again). So I quickly withdrew the offer and started looking and saw that Henry is on the ganga train again. If that owner would have been on right then, he could have quickly accepted and probably gotten the better deal. Now Selvin's price has gone up. Bottom line was that it was up to me to make sure i'm informed. When you offer someone a trade, if possible, set a trade deadline, either as part of the trade or in the comments on the trade. Then either pull it or at least review it, cause things change quickly in this game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enoch 1 Posted October 5, 2007 If owner a is trying to make a trade in hopes you don't know a player is hurt,then I say the guy is scum. But if a trade goes down & things happen then all is fair. Still it is up to every owner to check things over before you make a trade. Just mad that people would try to pull stuff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted October 5, 2007 If owner a is trying to make a trade in hopes you don't know a player is hurt,then I say the guy is scum. But if a trade goes down & things happen then all is fair. Still it is up to every owner to check things over before you make a trade. Just mad that people would try to pull stuff I had a guy offer me Jerry Porter first thing this morning for Young. I was I am thinking that I can get a decent WR2 for him today. Maybe more on Monday Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
