redtodd 7 Posted December 14, 2007 I'm not crazy about cheating, adulturing, being a bastard factory, Vrabeling into the QBs knees five seconds after the play is over with 10 seconds left in the game, Wilforking a QB knees, classlessly running up the score, etc.... At the same time, I'm sure there are good guys on the Patriots who do good things and just kind of look the other way and say, "Yes, our coach is an a-hole prone to cheating, but he wins" or "Yes, our QB is a bastard factory who classlessly throws 4th quarter 4th down touchdowns up 45-0, but look at his career stats before Moss came on board.... they're Charlie Batchesque... He needs this for his confidence." So, it's hard to hate a whole team based upon the actions of a few bad apples... It's basically the bandwagoning Patriot fans that are annoying.... But they're more funny than anything. I'm sure the Patroits players didn't appreciate nobody coming to their games until they started winning, but that's all water under the bridge now. Further, it's hard to hate anybody when you root for the greatest, classiest, most-championed team in the history of the NFL with the greatest quarterback who didn't need his kicker and defense to win a title (and didn't have everybody feel so sorry for him that they gave him the MVP for throwing for 125 yards ) and who doesn't need Randy Moss to Culpooper up his Hugh Millen*-like lifetime stats. *Patriot fans: Hugh Millen was your quarterback on your 1-15 team in the '90s long before any of you started following your team.... Apparently junkie QB's are OK. What about CB's (Al Harris) who deliberately use their helmet to take out the other team's star RB's knee (Adrian Peterson)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redtodd 7 Posted December 14, 2007 You really have no clue. Nice intelligent response. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,924 Posted December 14, 2007 Apparently junkie QB's are OK. What about CB's (Al Harris) who deliberately use their helmet to take out the other team's star RB's knee (Adrian Peterson)? Too funny. Your trying really hard. Favre's Pain Killer addiction- 10 years ago, which he got over, while keeping a relationship with wife and kids. I don't know why this is a bad thing? Fans appretiate normal guys that happen to be big stars at the QB position. What guy hasn't went out and gotten bombed? How many young guys take extra pain killers to feel a high? Al Harris hit...hahah........look again, his pads hit AD, not his helmet. AD didn't complain nor did anyone else. It was a tackle in the open field. AD is the toughest runner to bring down. Al Harris is 180 lbs. How do you want him to get tackled? I'm guessing you are one of those "you cannot touch the QB at all or its 15 yards" guys....maybe because you think football is a tickling contest, or your dear Brady will get a little mud on his uni for once. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mainev3nt 0 Posted December 14, 2007 Apparently junkie QB's are OK. What about CB's (Al Harris) who deliberately use their helmet to take out the other team's star RB's knee (Adrian Peterson)? What are CB's taught to do when tackling a RB in the open field??? Tackle low and take out their legs, you obviously dont know jackshyt about football, go back to creating senseless threads about how the patriots will conquer the world... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redtodd 7 Posted December 14, 2007 Too funny. Your trying really hard. Favre's Pain Killer addiction- 10 years ago, which he got over, while keeping a relationship with wife and kids. I don't know why this is a bad thing? Fans appretiate normal guys that happen to be big stars at the QB position. What guy hasn't went out and gotten bombed? How many young guys take extra pain killers to feel a high? Manning and Brady never abused drugs. How many young guys take extra pain killers to feel a high? I don't know, maybe a lot in the trailer parks. But as for PROFESSIONAL QB's, I imagine there are not many getting stoned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redtodd 7 Posted December 14, 2007 What are CB's taught to do when tackling a RB in the open field??? Tackle low and take out their legs, you obviously dont know jackshyt about football, go back to creating senseless threads about how the patriots will conquer the world... Direct helmets to the knee? If it is wrong for Wilfork's tackle, it is wrong for Harris's. Simple as that. Trust me, no one on the Patriots wants J.P. Lostman out of the game. Every Packer wanted Peterson out of the game (and they succeeded). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted December 14, 2007 Nice intelligent response. As if anything you have said in this thread contained one ounce of intelligence. Just look at your response above this about Al Harris...whose helmet got nowhere near Peterson's knee. Its a tip that his shoulder hit Peterson's thigh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted December 14, 2007 Direct helmets to the knee? If it is wrong for Wilfork's tackle, it is wrong for Harris's. Simple as that. Trust me, no one on the Patriots wants J.P. Lostman out of the game. Every Packer wanted Peterson out of the game (and they succeeded). What part of this picture is Harris leading with his helmet and not his shoulder? http://www.startribune.com/galleries/11820246.html Wilfolk went after a QB's knee...well after the play. Harris went low on a RB who is much bigger than him...during the course of the play...and did not touch his knee. And why did we want Peterson out of the game? It was the 3rd quarter and they were doing little to nothing in that game with or without him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redtodd 7 Posted December 14, 2007 What part of this picture is Harris leading with his helmet and not his shoulder?http://www.startribune.com/galleries/11820246.html Wilfolk went after a QB's knee...well after the play. Harris went low on a RB who is much bigger than him...during the course of the play...and did not touch his knee. And why did we want Peterson out of the game? It was the 3rd quarter and they were doing little to nothing in that game with or without him. None of those pictures show the hit. It shows Harris getting into postion to take out the knee, then after he hit it. Wilfork did not "go after" his knee. You are making things up. Why would he want Lostman out of the game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted December 14, 2007 None of those pictures show the hit. It shows Harris getting into postion to take out the knee, then after he hit it. Wilfork did not "go after" his knee. You are making things up. Why would he want Lostman out of the game? you're such a focking moron. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted December 14, 2007 None of those pictures show the hit. It shows Harris getting into postion to take out the knee, then after he hit it. Wilfork did not "go after" his knee. You are making things up. Why would he want Lostman out of the game? You can keep repeating that Wilfolk did not go for his knee...but its obvious he did...and obvious that Harris hit (with his shoulder) above Peterson's knee. There is a reason why I have not heard a single Viking complain about the hit...yet plenty of people had things to say about Wilfolk's. Including the NFL fining him 12,500. Harris got hit with a whopping 0 fine...and no flag. Nice fishing trip though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Dynasty 0 Posted December 14, 2007 blah, blah, blah wow. everytime I check in here, you're posting in a Patriots thread. just buy a f#cking Brady jersey already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Portis26 0 Posted December 14, 2007 good topic I told my buddy the other day ... i hate that the Pats could go undefeated.. but if it was my beloved Skins... I'd be ALL FOR IT!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donhaas 18 Posted December 14, 2007 Direct helmets to the knee? If it is wrong for Wilfork's tackle, it is wrong for Harris's. Simple as that. Trust me, no one on the Patriots wants J.P. Lostman out of the game. Every Packer wanted Peterson out of the game (and they succeeded). Why would we want him out of the game? He had amassed 40 yards in three quarters and the Vikings were down 34-0... Or are you trying to be funny? I can't tell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donhaas 18 Posted December 14, 2007 Apparently junkie QB's are OK. This joke – much like your wardrobe – is very 1995… Let me know when you want to come back to 2007 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,924 Posted December 14, 2007 Manning and Brady never abused drugs. I don't know, maybe a lot in the trailer parks. But as for PROFESSIONAL QB's, I imagine there are not many getting stoned. Thats why he's a regular guy, that had/has regular problems. Just because he suits up for the NFL and makes millions doesn't change him or make him superman to any problems that anyone else has. whats worse short pain killer addiction<making bastard children. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,924 Posted December 14, 2007 None of those pictures show the hit. It shows Harris getting into postion to take out the knee, then after he hit it. Wilfork did not "go after" his knee. You are making things up. Why would he want Lostman out of the game? I agree that an opponest wants Losman IN the game. But Wilfork didn't care he just took a cheapshot.....to say it wasn't is quite dumb. A straight forarm to Losman's knee after he threw the ball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,924 Posted December 14, 2007 I don't know, maybe a lot in the trailer parks. But as for PROFESSIONAL QB's, I imagine there are not many getting stoned. So everyone in the U.S. who has a problem with alcohol, pain killers, or other drugs must come from a trailor park? I can see you don't live in the real world, or you were just a pansy A$$ growing up and never strayed too far from moma... Actually, most drug use comes from the middle class. You may be the dumbest poster on this site. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted December 14, 2007 This joke – much like your wardrobe – is very 1995…Let me know when you want to come back to 2007 2007 is pretty cool for pats fans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redtodd 7 Posted December 15, 2007 Thats why he's a regular guy, that had/has regular problems. Just because he suits up for the NFL and makes millions doesn't change him or make him superman to any problems that anyone else has. That is an awful excuse for abusing drugs. Thank God Brady isn't a "regular guy." You know, what you wrote could actually apply to Vick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redtodd 7 Posted December 15, 2007 This joke – much like your wardrobe – is very 1995…Let me know when you want to come back to 2007 How many championships has Favre won off the dope? Send the guy some Oxycontin before the playoffs. As for wardrobe, who is the one who submits a picture with a visor on backwards? That has 1995 gay wigger written all over it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redtodd 7 Posted December 15, 2007 I agree that an opponest wants Losman IN the game. But Wilfork didn't care he just took a cheapshot.....to say it wasn't is quite dumb. A straight forarm to Losman's knee after he threw the ball. Straight arm? Nice exaggeration. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted December 15, 2007 was there a flag on that wilfork play ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donhaas 18 Posted December 15, 2007 As for wardrobe, who is the one who submits a picture with a visor on backwards? That has 1995 gay wigger written all over it. It was a joke... "Jokes" -- in case you aren't familiar -- are the things you try to tell to Zubaz-wearing hicks at the Wisconsin Rapids Elks Club Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,924 Posted December 15, 2007 That is an awful excuse for abusing drugs. Thank God Brady isn't a "regular guy." You know, what you wrote could actually apply to Vick. Abusing Pain Killers........Beating and killing dogs while fighting them illegally? Going to jail for 2 years........not going to jail? Yup about the same things? Regular people don't kill dogs. You act like taking pain killers and getting hooked on them, when your career is getting knocked around by 300 lbers is the worst thing in the world. He know he had a problem, got help and fixed it. Saying he is a regular guy isn't an excuse, it is reality. Regular people in this world go through problems, fighting through it and the next year winning a superbowl is how he dealt with it. Again proving how dumb you are... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,924 Posted December 15, 2007 How many championships has Favre won off the dope? Send the guy some Oxycontin before the playoffs. As for wardrobe, who is the one who submits a picture with a visor on backwards? That has 1995 gay wigger written all over it. You don't take jokes well....you claim to be a comedian right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,924 Posted December 15, 2007 Straight arm? Nice exaggeration. I said "straight forarm"....basically just meaning his forarm. Settle down slappy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaxjag 43 Posted December 15, 2007 it would be diffrent if they won with class, seriously. i don't mind the colts, didn't mind them when they started 13-0. Throwing popcorn over the cowboys locker room, getting pissed because someone told on them about the cameras. Just little stuff like that makes me dislike them. Little stuff like hearsay? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redtodd 7 Posted December 15, 2007 It was a joke... "Jokes" -- in case you aren't familiar -- are the things you try to tell to Zubaz-wearing hicks at the Wisconsin Rapids Elks Club You have more reused jokes than even I have......and I get paid to tell them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redtodd 7 Posted December 15, 2007 Abusing Pain Killers........Beating and killing dogs while fighting them illegally? Going to jail for 2 years........not going to jail? Yup about the same things? Regular people don't kill dogs. You act like taking pain killers and getting hooked on them, when your career is getting knocked around by 300 lbers is the worst thing in the world. He know he had a problem, got help and fixed it. Saying he is a regular guy isn't an excuse, it is reality. Regular people in this world go through problems, fighting through it and the next year winning a superbowl is how he dealt with it. Again proving how dumb you are... He abused drugs. Manning doesn't. Brady doesn't. Montana didn't. Marino didn't. HOF QB's are not supposed to be junkies because you think all "regular people" do it. I work with a ton of "regular" people who do not abuse drugs. There should be an * next to his "iron man" record. How many games would he have missed if he could feel pain? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted December 15, 2007 wow.everytime I check in here, you're posting in a Patriots thread. just buy a f#cking Brady jersey already. Spoken like someone who did not read a damn word in this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted December 15, 2007 How many championships has Favre won off the dope? Send the guy some Oxycontin before the playoffs. As for wardrobe, who is the one who submits a picture with a visor on backwards? That has 1995 gay wigger written all over it. Off dope. He won his first championship without it...oh...and 2 more MVPs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted December 15, 2007 He abused drugs. Manning doesn't. Brady doesn't. Montana didn't. Marino didn't. HOF QB's are not supposed to be junkies because you think all "regular people" do it. I work with a ton of "regular" people who do not abuse drugs. There should be an * next to his "iron man" record. How many games would he have missed if he could feel pain? Considering he has been off of the drugs much longer than he was on him...Id say he would not have missed any. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,736 Posted December 15, 2007 wow.everytime I check in here, you're posting in a Patriots thread. just buy a f#cking Brady jersey already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,924 Posted December 15, 2007 He abused drugs. Manning doesn't. Brady doesn't. Montana didn't. Marino didn't. HOF QB's are not supposed to be junkies because you think all "regular people" do it. I work with a ton of "regular" people who do not abuse drugs. There should be an * next to his "iron man" record. How many games would he have missed if he could feel pain? Never said Great QBs were supposed to have an addiction of some kind. You like to twist words to try and make a point. Like playing with a Borken thumb on his throwing hand a few years ago? Like playing last week with a numb/hurt elbow and a recovering dislocated shoulder? If any player has pain in anything, trainers give them a shot for it..should that be wrong and any player who takes a pain releaving shot should have an * next to them?..again showing how dumb you are.... You really need to get a clue, you obviously aren't very smart, or at the least don't think about what you say before you post it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,924 Posted December 15, 2007 Retodd, I'm not even sure what we are arguing about? You obviously just have your panties in a bunch because another male had a painkiller addiction and got through it. If I don't understand why your so worried or mad over it by now I never will, that said good luck with your Patriots, they have a good team. Let me know how you do with the frustration over Favre's problem that was over 10 years ago...take care. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted December 15, 2007 Except that I am here to completely rip apart redtodd's false statements about the Packers (that somehow have anything to do with this thread). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted December 15, 2007 Retodd, I'm not even sure what we are arguing about? You obviously just have your panties in a bunch because another male had a painkiller addiction and got through it. If I don't understand why your so worried or mad over it by now I never will, that said good luck with your Patriots, they have a good team. Let me know how you do with the frustration over Favre's problem that was over 10 years ago...take care. Look at this thread...and the others and posts by Pats fans. They whine if someone does not bow down to BB and Brady and think the Pats are the greatest thing ever. They want to play the victim card as if they are not getting any respect...its laughable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
