Toto's Steve Lukather voted rock's best guitarist

[remote controller 143]

I've seen him play a few times and he's a killer guitarist, no doubt about it. When one talks about being the greatest rock guitarist, one needs to factor in other things than just skill or virtuosity. Guitar players like Hendrix, Clapton, Page, Beck, Santana, and others made lasting footprints in rock history. I'm sorry Newbie, but Lukather will never be thought of as anything other than just a great guitar player. Those other guys mentionned will be thought of as rock gods forever. Being in Toto and doing session work isn't enough to be called the best rock guitarist of all time.

 

As far as defending this poll from this website, no way. Way too many huge discrepancies to give it legitimacy. Brian May and Lukater as numbers one and two make me think that some very like-minded people were driven to that poll, and skewed the result, or that website is somehow linked to a Toto site.

I agree. My thoughts are that this is like the Idol vote. Text away!!! There are many varied styles of guitar playing too. Give me Hendrix and Page...............give me the guy from ZZTop and the guy that died from Chicago........hell give me Lindsey Buckingham from Fleetwood, and I can point out something they all do as good or better than anyone. Lukather is good, and I learned that in this thread, but i didn't know he existed.

[NewbieJr 541]

they all do as good or better than anyone.

You hit the nail on the head, here.

 

The main thing you did correctly was name Lukather in a post about great guitarists. Like others have mentioned, being in a alightweight band like Toto has kept him from being the household name that Clapton or Gibbons or Van Halen are, but he's in their league as a guitarist.

[kutulu 1,664]

Toto sucks.

[NewbieJr 541]

Toto sucks.

Grammy awards: Toto-4, Metallica-0

 

Pwned!

[kutulu 1,664]

Grammy awards: Toto-4, Metallica-0

 

Pwned!

 

 

You're sounding less and less knowledgable with each post.

[hoytdwow 202]

Grammy awards: Toto-4, Metallica-0

 

Pwned!

 

 

 

Metallica has won seven Grammy Awards:

 

* 1990: Best Metal Performance – "One"

* 1991: Best Metal Performance – "Stone Cold Crazy"

* 1992: Best Metal Performance With Vocal – Metallica

* 1999: Best Metal Performance – "Better Than You"

* 2000: Best Hard Rock Performance – "Whiskey in the Jar"

* 2001: Best Rock Instrumental Performance - "The Call of Ktulu" with Michael Kamen and the San Francisco Symphony

* 2004: Best Metal Performance – "St. Anger"

[nzoner 937]

give me the guy from ZZTop

 

 

The Reverand Billy Gibbons

[paulinstl 296]

The Reverand Billy Gibbons

 

 

And Billy Gibbons learned his chops from Roy Buchanan. Ask 1000 famous guitarists who was the best guitar player they ever heard, Buchanan would be neck-in-neck with Hendrix.

[NewbieJr 541]

Metallica has won seven Grammy Awards:

 

* 1990: Best Metal Performance – "One"

* 1991: Best Metal Performance – "Stone Cold Crazy"

* 1992: Best Metal Performance With Vocal – Metallica

* 1999: Best Metal Performance – "Better Than You"

* 2000: Best Hard Rock Performance – "Whiskey in the Jar"

* 2001: Best Rock Instrumental Performance - "The Call of Ktulu" with Michael Kamen and the San Francisco Symphony

* 2004: Best Metal Performance – "St. Anger"

 

Holy crap. The Grammys no longer have any relevance.

[kutulu 1,664]

Holy crap. The Grammys no longer have any relevance.

 

 

and neither do you.

[gratefulted 14]

Holy crap. The Grammys no longer have any relevance.

As far as I'm concerned they never have (Milli Vanilli), besides you're arguing with someone that considers Kiss a decent band!

[kutulu 1,664]

As far as I'm concerned they never have (Milli Vanilli), besides you're arguing with someone that considers Kiss a decent the hottest band in the world!

 

[NewbieJr 541]

I always liked Kiss, too.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Until I turned 14 and outgrew their shtick.

[kutulu 1,664]

I always liked Kiss, too.

Until I turned 14 and outgrew their shtick.

 

 

Metallia>KISS>Rick Springfield>Toto

[NewbieJr 541]

Metallia>KISS>Rick Springfield>Toto

Well, Kiss and Springfield have had very similar careers- both had cartoon series about them. Rick decided against make-up, though.

[remote controller 143]

Terry Kath from Chicago was very underated also.

[kutulu 1,664]

Well, Kiss and Springfield have had very similar careers- both had cartoon series about them. Rick decided against make-up, though.

 

Metallia>KISS=Rick Springfield>Toto

[NewbieJr 541]

Metallia>KISS=Rick Springfield>Toto

Also, Toto nor Springfield ever did a song gayer than "Beth".

 

 

HTH

[kutulu 1,664]

Also, Toto nor Springfield ever did a song gayer than "Beth".

HTH

 

There are at least 10 KISS songs gayer than even Beth.

[gratefulted 14]

Terry Kath from Chicago was very underated also.

 

Best I've seen!

[remote controller 143]

Best I've seen!

He would be the top one on my list. Most here are too young to have had a chance to listen to him, and only the great guitarists of his time give him his props, as one of the greatest ever. I would have loved to have seen him "LIVE"!

[NewbieJr 541]

He would be the top one on my list. Most here are too young to have had a chance to listen to him, and only the great guitarists of his time give him his props, as one of the greatest ever. I would have loved to have seen him "LIVE"!

So would his family.

 

Thank you. I'm here all week. Don't forget to tip your waitress.

[star69 5]

crickets

[gratefulted 14]

So would his family.

 

Thank you. I'm here all week. Don't forget to tip your waitress.

His last words were "Don't worry, its not loaded"

[kutulu 1,664]

you're arguing with someone that considers Kiss a decent band!

 

KISS guitarist/vocalist Paul Stanley has told Australia's Daily Telegraph that modern bands "useless and pathetic" and is promising value for money during their Australian mini-tour.

 

"Good economy or no economy, we have no intentions of stopping," said Stanley.

 

"We gave up doing this for money a long time ago, we love it, but we still get paid."

 

"Rock and roll is in a pathetic state," he added.

 

"Bands think they can can get up on stage and strum their guitars and then download it — it's useless and pathetic.

 

"We're sick and tired of seeing bands getting up on stage and not giving value for your buck."

 

"We not only want to live up to the legend (of KISS) but we want to exceed it, and that's why we are here," Stanley said.

 

"KISS music is universal, ageless — we always find a new audience," said Stanley.

 

"What we sing about is celebrating life, about enjoying yourself.

 

"We don't need to to look for an audience — the audience finds us."

 

[NewbieJr 541]

"KISS music is universal, ageless — we always find a new audience," said Stanley. Aren't Kiss fans the same ones they had twenty years ago? Seriously, I don't think the My Space generation could name a Kiss song.

 

 

"Rock and roll is in a pathetic state," he added. - says the guy who's band was gimmicky and dressed like clowns on stage.

[kutulu 1,664]

"KISS music is universal, ageless — we always find a new audience," said Stanley. Aren't Kiss fans the same ones they had twenty years ago? Seriously, I don't think the My Space generation could name a Kiss song.

"Rock and roll is in a pathetic state," he added. - says the guy who's band was gimmicky and dressed like clowns on stage.

 

 

Ace Frehley > the dude from Toto that nobody knows

[NewbieJr 541]

Ace Frehley > the dude from Toto that nobody knows

Frehley wouldn't make a list od rock's 1,000 best guitarists.

 

Steve Lukather was better at 12 than Frehley ever was at his peak.

[kutulu 1,664]

Frehley wouldn't make a list od rock's 1,000 best guitarists.

 

Steve Lukather was better at 12 than Frehley ever was at his peak.

 

Who?

 

 

1. Jimi Hendrix* - Jimi Hendrix Experience

2. Eric Clapton - Yardbirds, Cream, Derek & The Dominos, Solo

3. Jimmy Page - Yardbirds, Led Zeppelin, The Firm

4. Jeff Beck - Yardbirds, Jeff Beck Group, Solo

5. Eddie Van Halen - Van Halen

6. Stevie Ray Vaughan* - Stevie Ray Vaughan & Double Trouble

7. Joe Satriani - Solo

8. Ritchie Blackmore - Deep Purple, Rainbow, Blackmores Night

9. Steve Vai - David Lee Roth, Whitesnake, Solo

10. David Gilmour - Pink Floyd, Solo

11. John Petrucci - Dream Theater, Liquid Tension Experiment

12. Randy Rhoads* - Quiet Riot, Ozzy

13. Allan Holdsworth - Solo

14. Paul Gilbert - Mr. Big, Racer X, Solo

15. Yngwie Malmsteen - Rising Force, Solo

16. Phil Keaggy - Glass Harp, Solo

17. Jason Becker - Cacophony, David Lee Roth Band, Solo

18. John Mclaughlin- Mahavishnu Orchestra

19. Duane Allman* - Allman Brothers Band, Derek & the Dominos

20. Chuck Berry - Solo

21. Eric Johnson - Solo

22. Steve Howe - Yes, Solo

23. Neal Schon - Santana, Journey, Solo

24. Brian May - Queen

25. Gary Moore - Thin Lizzy, Colosseum II, Skid Row, Solo

26. Bo Diddley - Solo

27. Steve Morse - Deep Purple, Dixie Dregs, Steve Morse Band, Solo

28. Carlos Santana - Santana

29. Tony Iommi - Black Sabbath

30. Buckethead - Solo, Praxis, Thanatopsis, The Deli Creeps, Cornbugs, GNR,

31. Mark Knopfler - Dire Straits, Solo

32. Marty Friedman - Cacophony, Megadeth, Solo

33. Nuno Bettencourt - Extreme, Mourning Widows

34. Shawn Lane* - Black Oak Arkansas, Willy, Solo

35. Kirk Hammett - Metallica

36. Uli Jon Roth - Scorpions, Solo

37. Terry Kath* - Chicago Transit Authority

38. Alex Lifeson - Rush

39. Frank Zappa* - Mothers of Invention, Solo

40. Rory Gallagher* - Solo

41. Dimebag Darrell* - Pantera

42. Peter Green - Fleetwood Mac, Solo

43. Robin Trower - Procal Harum, Solo

44. Slash - Guns N' Roses, Slash's Snakepit, Velvet Revolver

45. Mick Taylor - John Mayall's Bluesbreakers, Rolling Stones

46. Robert Fripp - King Crimson

47. Tom Morello - Rage Against the Machine, Audioslave

48. Michael Schenker - Scorpions, UFO, MSG, Contraband

49. Ry Cooder - Solo

50. Angus Young - AC/DC

51. Keith Richards - Rolling Stones, Solo

52. Michael Angelo Batio - Nitro, Solo

53. John Squire - Stone Roses

54. Pete Townshend - The Who

55. Steve Hackett - Genisis

56. Zakk Wylde - Ozzy Osbourne, Black Label Society

57. George Harrison* - Beatles, Traveling Wilberys, Solo

58. Alvin Lee - Ten Years After

59. Dave Davies - Kinks

60. Jerry Cantrell - Alice In Chains, Solo

61. Steve Stevens - Billy Idol

62. Johnny Winter - Solo

63. Dickie Betts - Allman Brothers Band, Dickey Betts & Great Southern

64. John Cipollina* - Quicksilver Messenger Service

65. Kenny Wayne Shepherd - Kenny Wayne Shepherd Band

66. Steve Cropper - Booker T. & MG's/Stax sessions

67. Adrian Belew - King Crimson

68. Joe Bonamassa - Solo

69. Steve Lukather - Toto, Solo

70. Jerry Garcia* - Grateful Dead

71. Joe Perry - Aerosmith

72. Prince - Prince & The Revolution

73. Kim Mitchell - Max Webster, Solo

74. Adrian Smith - Iron Maiden

75. Dave Murray - Iron Maiden

76. Neil Young - Buffalo Springfield, CSNY, Solo

77. Billy Gibbons - ZZ Top

78. Tony MacAlpine - Solo

79. Mike McCready - Pearl Jam

80. Adam Jones - Tool

81. Gary Hoey - Solo

82. Leslie West - Mountain, Solo

83. Peter Frampton - Humble Pie, Frampton's Camel, Solo

84. ###### Dale - Del-Tones

85. Vito Bratta - White Lion

86. Mickey "Guitar" Baker - 50's sessions/ Mickey & Sylvia

87. John Frusciante - Red Hot Chili Peppers

88. Ronnie Montrose - Montrose, Edgar Winter Group

89. Mick Ronson* - David Bowie, Solo

90. Roy Buchanan* - Solo

91. Warren Haynes - Allman Brothers Band, Gov't Mule

92. Vinnie Moore - Alice Cooper, Solo

93. Robbie Krieger - Doors, Solo

94. Chris DeGarmo - Queensryche

95. Jake E. Lee - Cutting Crew, Ozzy, Badlands, Solo

96. Glen Tipton - Judas Priest

97. Joe Walsh - James Gang, Eagles, Solo

98. K.K. Downing - Judas Priest

99. Eddie Hazel* - Funkadelic

100. Alex Skolnick - Testament

 

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101. Doug Aldrich - Burning Rain, Dio, Whitesnake, Solo

102. Michael Romeo - Symphony X

103. Vernon Reid - Living Colour

104. Gary Richrath - REO Speedwagon, Solo

105. Link Wray - Link Wray and his Ace-Men

106. Allen Collins* - Lynyrd Skynyrd

107. Larry "Ler" Lalonde - Primus

108. Randy Bachmann - Guess Who, BTO

109. Jeff Healy* - Jeff Healy Band

110. Greg Howe - Solo

111. Dave Navarro - Janes Addiction

112. Scott Gorham - Thin Lizzy

113. Ted Nugent - Ambouy Dukes, Damn Yankees, Solo,

114. Vivian Campbell - Dio, Whitesnake, Def Leppard

115. Paul Kossoff* - Free, Back Street Crawler

116. Ritchie Kotzen - Poison, Mr Big, Solo

117. Brian Robertson - Thin Lizzy, Motorhead

118. Andy Summers - Police

119. John Sykes - Blue Murder, Whitesnake, Thin Lizzy

120. Scotty Moore - Elvis Presley

121. Gary Rossington - Lynyrd Skynyrd, Rossington Band

122. Ty Tabor - Kings X, Jelly Bean, Poundhound, Jughead, Platypus

123. John Fogerty - CCR, Solo

124. Ron Wood - Faces, Rolling Stones

125. Ace Frehley - Kiss

 

Criteria: - Guitarists are ranked for their impact, influence,
creativity, versatility, originality, technical skill and lasting
popularity in the genre of Rock guitar.