Ryan Torian

[bradysbunch 0]

This guy was supposely playing lights out during the preseason before getting hurt. Shanny must have liked him because he didn't put him on the PUP list. With the other RB's not exactly tearing it up, will he get the opportunity to take the job?

[MikieV101 0]

I actually drafted Torrain in the 16th round and have him stored on my bench. I must say, my expectations are lower than many...Even if he does provide something to the running game that Young, Hall and Pittman did not, he will still share carries....

 

I am actually hoping to include him in a trade the week he returns as he will be hyped so much, his value may never be higher this year.

[Vanillarainstorm 0]

Maybe now the Broncos will actually flirt with running to ball once every 20 or so plays

[Spelling Police 0]

For God's sake his name is spelled TORAIN.

[Big_Pete 0]

I'm as high on Torain as the next Broncomaniac, but still, the realist in me has my doubts. Shanahan said he reminds him of Terrell Davis. Now, does that mean that Shanahan will be willing to give up on the RBBC stuff that he's doing? Or does that just mean that he'll throw Torain into the rotation, but expect huge things from him with the limited carries he gets?

Young has shown to be good when given the opportunities (see last year), but he got dinged up, so Shanahan lost faith in him being a feature back, and even during a strict RBBC this year, he still got dinged up.

Hall showed the same thing last year, can be really good, but get's injured easily. This year he is healthy, but he also doesn't see the ball much.

They brought in Pittman, and honestly I thought he was gonna be cut, but Torain injured himself, so Pittman made the final roster.

The interesting thing is that now Torain has shown that it doesn't even take gameday poundings to injure him, so how much will Shanahan trust him when he get's healthy?

This is why I think that even though Shanahan said he reminds him of TD, I still think Torain will be part of the dreaded RBBC. The only positive is that he'll be VERY fresh for the 2nd half of the season. So while other RB's are wearing down, he'll be opening day fresh. That could pay dividends, but again, only if he sees a decent amount of carries, which I'm doubtful he'll do unless there is a rash of injuries.

Next year, who knows. But this year, I wouldn't expect much more than Young type production. I hope I'm wrong, but logic says I'm correct.

[Chimp 0]

I just picked him up myself. I know Shanny liked the kid, but who knows. It's all about possible upside for me. Their schedule after the bye is very nice, and since Shanny liked the kid you never know.

[esoitl 0]

Very hard to judge but if Young's injury keeps him out for any length of time he may see a good portion of the carries.

Young has been the best of the bunch so far so I feel that he is the biggest competition to Torain. If he's out I would assume Torain takes his share, maybe more if he does very well. If Young is playing I might expect a more traditional 2-RB system but am not getting my hopes up too high. Pittman may still GL vulture, you never know....

 

My hope is that he gets 50% of carries with the others serving spell or role duties. I doubt that happens but when we've seen coaches high on a player in the past some weird results have occured.

You have to admit that how the scenario has played out, Torain will get his chance.

 

A) He was a 5th round pick with a 12 week injury - not many players would get a spot in this case unless they brought something special.

He was not on the PUP so they would be expecting his injury to last beyond the 6 week period, which it has, but he would be back and playing.

 

Even in normal circumstances that's a bit odd to see him make it through but even moreso in a crwded back field like Denver has.

Think of how hyped Forsett was in Seattle and he still got cut...

[DamageIncVacc 6]

From the KFFL Insider ,.

 

My opinion is if you got a 5th running back spot sure grab him but I wouldnt drop anyone you need for him. We know nothing about him and if he can play , blitz protect etc.

 

http://www.kffl.com/article.php/94885/512

 

Take it easy on the Ryan Torain welcome mats, Broncos fans and fantasy owners: There isn't a gauge on the rookie's talent yet - they don't know if he can play special teams or pick up a blitz. His presence - even in a messy backfield - might not be the best thing to protect quarterback Jay Cutler.

[fanfootballtn 33]

Two words. Rat Face

[nobody 2,876]

He wasn't put on the PUP because he wasn't eligible. You can't take snaps in training camp and go on the PUP.

[TennisMenace 156]

I know we all want to find a diamond in the rough, but let's be real here - he was a late draft choice, he has shown nothing except looking good in preseason, and he is on the Broncos, who like to share carries.

 

If you have a spot to carry him, sure, pick him up to see what happens. If you are like me - not much room to maneuver, it is too risky.

[De Novo 0]

If he's as good as people hope he is, he'll get the ball 20 times. If he's not, he'll be in a timeshare.

[The Next Generation 10]

I just picked him up myself. I know Shanny liked the kid, but who knows. It's all about possible upside for me. Their schedule after the bye is very nice, and since Shanny liked the kid you never know.

 

If you've got the space, why not. He is the ultimate low risk, high reward candidate. If he does nothing...so be it. If he explodes, you're golden and you've just kept him away from everyone else in your league. What other RB is on waivers that has the potential to be a 2nd half stud?

[LittleGiants78 0]

What week is this cat scheduled to come back?

[16 and 33 0]

Mike Shanahan told the Denver Post that rookie Ryan Torain would begin practicing next week after missing the first month of the season with a dislocated elbow, but he probably won't see action in a game until after Denver's bye in Week 8.

 

Week 9 - Nov 2

[madd futher mucker 36]

HE'S A DENVER RB, STUPID. 'NUF SAID. STAY FAR, FAR AWAY.

[hotgumbo1 12]

If you've got the space, why not. He is the ultimate low risk, high reward candidate. If he does nothing...so be it. If he explodes, you're golden and you've just kept him away from everyone else in your league. What other RB is on waivers that has the potential to be a 2nd half stud?

OR a dud.

[TheBlade 3]

OR a dud.

That's the whole point of the post you quoted...

 

Torain is the classic low-risk, high-reward play if you have the roster space. I just stashed him on the IR until he comes back after Den's bye week. Once he's healthy and ready to play, I'll have the space on my roster to take him off of the IR and just stash him on my bench. If he surprises, that's great, I've then got another solid option on my bench to choose from. If he flops, then I haven't lost anything in giving up the likes of another RB4/RB5 for him.

 

I could really care less if he performs or not, although I obviously would prefer that he puts up solid numbers. The only reason that I picked him up is for his potential to positively surprise everyone.

[hyness 0]

Two words. Rat Face

 

[DamageIncVacc 6]

 

+1

[steelers2101 7]

Is he worth giving up Kevin Curtis for?

 

I am particularly strong at WR and weak at RB in the league I've got Curtis (below).

[RamslovaMartzhata 3]

I am picking him up this week. Hall's fumbles and Selvin Young just not being very good in my mind makes him worth the risk in my deep league. He really has the most talent out of the RB's... the question is can he put that together on the field. But I think that he is the worst kept seceret in fantasy football, and next week a lot of leagues will see him added to their rosters. So if you want him for sure... this is the week to pick him up.

[Manimal 0]

I still don't think he's going to be worth a hoot in FF this year. Pittman has been solid. Taking carries away from him (unless he gets hurt) would be stupid...

 

But we are talkin' about Mike Shanacrap here so, who knows?

[Cuse9 131]

From what I've heard is Torain is alot like Terrell Davis. For Shanny's system that is what he needs. None of the running backs on Denver's roster fit the bill. There is a decent stable of backs, but none that are exactly what Shanny wants. IMO that has been the downfall of Shanny the last 8 years. He wants that Davis clone and won't settle with anything until he finds one!

 

I have Torain because I like his second half potential and can afford to have him on my bench. He's a great guy to stash IF you have the room. If he ends up taking over and being #1 in Denver he could be a superior back duirng our playoffs. If he ends up being a dud, then no harm done. He's a 5th/6th back on most teams anyway. In my case if he flops then I'll have to settle for Barber and Westbrook (Praying he plays well the rest of the year).

 

He's basically a no risk gamble.

[RamslovaMartzhata 3]

Don't take my word for it, and don't take some fantasy "expert's" word for it... but I'd say that this article alone is worth taking a shot IF you have the space:

 

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008...se/?partner=RSS

 

(Quote from Cutler) "From what we saw in camp, the kid is an explosive runner and in the second half of the season, guys get worn down and we're going to pop this fresh kid in there," Cutler said. "It's going to be exciting to watch."

 

Torain suffered a fractured left elbow and some ligament damage that required surgery in early August. At the time, he steadily was moving up the team's depth chart, with Shanahan saying, before any preseason games had been played, that Torain was headed toward being the team's starter.

 

At the time, Shanahan called him "one of the most gifted running backs I've been around, and I've been around for a long time, very similar to Terrell Davis when he came in."

[Texansfan 0]

Well from last night here is what we know.

 

1) Michael Pittman never has been and never will be a capable every down back. He's a good 3rd down back.

 

2) Andre Hall had 2 carries for -7 yards and 2 FUMBLES LOST.

 

3) Selvin Young is hurt and not that good anyway.

 

4) The Broncos got their A$$ handed to them mostly b/c a lack of a running game. Cutler cannot do it all by himself.

 

So I think there is a VERY GOOD chance this kid comes out after the bye and has a significant role if healthy. Might even take over the starting job with Pittman as the 3rd down back. If you don't grab him now during their bye, there might alot of hype next week about him making him harder to grab.

[edjr 6,890]

I've been sitting on Torain since I drafted him..

 

I need Torain to be a force, not because I need to use him, but because I need Cutler/Marshall to stop sucking cack.

 

With the Denver defense being horrible, Cutler/Marshall could have a great 2nd half.

[RamslovaMartzhata 3]

Well from last night here is what we know.

 

1) Michael Pittman never has been and never will be a capable every down back. He's a good 3rd down back.

 

2) Andre Hall had 2 carries for -7 yards and 2 FUMBLES LOST.

 

3) Selvin Young is hurt and not that good anyway.

 

4) The Broncos got their A$$ handed to them mostly b/c a lack of a running game. Cutler cannot do it all by himself.

 

So I think there is a VERY GOOD chance this kid comes out after the bye and has a significant role if healthy. Might even take over the starting job with Pittman as the 3rd down back. If you don't grab him now during their bye, there might alot of hype next week about him making him harder to grab.

 

 

Really off topic, but come on now... which game were you watching? The running game was the last of their concerns in that game. I'd say that their ass handed to them "mostly" because their defense couldn't stop a pop warner team in any aspect of the game and because they apparently like to play with greasy footballs.

[Cuse9 131]

Really off topic, but come on now... which game were you watching? The running game was the last of their concerns in that game. I'd say that their ass handed to them "mostly" because their defense couldn't stop a pop warner team in any aspect of the game and because they apparently like to play with greasy footballs.

Come on which game was you watching. Denver completely shut down the run. After Sammy Morris would run for 20-30 yards they would shut him down. After his measly 130+ yards in the first half he wasn't hurt....he was scared of the punishing defense. He knew the beating he took in the first half was nothing compared to what was in store for him. I bet if he would have played the second half he barely would have gotten 120. Stellar...that's the only words to describe Denver defense. It should only get better if Champ is done for the year.

 

Pop Warner. A dad would beat their kid if they played like Denver D?!

[Manimal 0]

Really off topic, but come on now... which game were you watching? The running game was the last of their concerns in that game. I'd say that their ass handed to them "mostly" because their defense couldn't stop a pop warner team in any aspect of the game and because they apparently like to play with greasy footballs.

 

You just read my mind. I was going to ask him the same thing - were we watching the same game? They lost because they didn't play D and turned the ball over.

 

For the last 2-3 games Pittman has been way more than a 3rd down back for them and has been solid. Check his yards per carry.

[wildbluefan 0]

Two words. Rat Face

 

 

And 4 more words : Rat Face HATES fantasy footballers !....ehh my bad, 5 words !

[socratespython 0]

Torain or not Torain? That is the question!

[ackattack 0]

I started a thread about this last week and got basically hung for even talking about denver running backs....

 

obviously there is some interest in this team and their running game...I think Shannarat is going to be forced to commit to someone and he seems to love this kid. Denver started 3-0 and had 5 rushing tds and averaged around 34 pts a game....the last 3 they have no rushing tds and averaging around 18 pts a game and after last night its even worse... If they had a defense that might work but since they appear to have none they are going to have to score 24 or more to win games imo. As much as I dislike the Donkeys they should be one of the top teams in the AFC...at times they are and others they just plain suck..I think the answer is a consistent running game to eat up clock and slow down the pass rush ect....

 

Anyway Im going to cut Young and pick up Torain tonight and hope for the best...

[ackattack 0]

You just read my mind. I was going to ask him the same thing - were we watching the same game? They lost because they didn't play D and turned the ball over.

 

For the last 2-3 games Pittman has been way more than a 3rd down back for them and has been solid. Check his yards per carry.

 

Well ypc for Selvin Young is around 5.9 and it didnt stop Rat face from going to someone else even when Young was healthy

[FrankRizzo 0]

Torain or not Torain? That is the question!

 

[Rusty Syringes 478]

I'm very similar to Terrell Davis in that I'm not playing in the NFL right now.

[Manimal 0]

Well ypc for Selvin Young is around 5.9 and it didnt stop Rat face from going to someone else even when Young was healthy

 

Ok. My bad on the ypc's.

[ackattack 0]

Ok. My bad on the ypc's.

 

 

 

Yeah your still right though...hes been much more than a 3rd down back...hes put up starter type numbers and is a good pass blocking back...I am just as frustrated as anyone with what this guy expects out of his running back position....he wants TD back....The guy who is very very good at everything, Pass block, screens pass, runs between the tackles like a power back or can slip thru them like marcus allen(had to throw a chief reference in there for you bronco fans), and gets to the edge and then explodes up field...

 

Problem is thats alot to ask from any back. Shannarat does not do what most coaches do....play to his strengths and he has quite a few....no he wants the new shiny toy and nothing else will do...He needs ultramegasupercollosalback...and I doubt Torain is that ...lets just hope hes happy enough to keep on playing him when and if he starts.

[RamslovaMartzhata 3]

Once again, I think that a lot of us fantasy footballers are a little too enamored with stats... they simply don't tell the whole story. Yes the Broncos have had a lot of success running the ball. Yes Pittman is playing very solid football... which is no surprise with him being an (10 years or so?) vet. But there is a reason why he has never been a great back, and that still hasn't changed.

 

People are failing to realize the big picture. The simple fact is, the threat that the Broncos passing attack poses right now makes it easy for anyone to run. Throw in a head coach who has had enormous success with his zone blockking scheme, and it's easy pickings for the run game.

 

But what Shanahan knows, is that Torain could possibly take that running game to another level. He simply has more talent (than Selvin) and/or youth (over Pittman, who was screwed out of his prime RB years on the Cards). In college he showed he is a good receiver out of the backfield, and is a very tough runner. But as I posted earlier... the tell tale sign about him is how highly Shanahan talks about him. Say what you want about Shanny, but the guy knows running backs.

[edjr 6,890]

No matter how good torain is, I think at least Pittman will still be the goaline back.

 

He's been money from the goaline this year, why change that?