Rush Limbaugh

[KSB2424 3,174]

i seriously question the collective iq of the republican party. they run around like crass apes. if limbaugh and (apparently, front runner romney) were in a room together they'd probably waste no time picking ticks off each other's backs and flinging dung around the room.

Some people like him because they are brain dead followers incapable of independent thought

As an aside from speakig about Rush I wanted to make an oberservation. I have noticed this sentiment (see quotes above) quite a bit on this board from people that swing from the left. Much more than in the real world, even though I see it there as well. Sorry guys, but you only come across as typical stuck-up condescending liberal rhetoric spewing whine asses. Not sure how else to call it when every reply has things like in the quotes above. You talk about how a person like Rush divides the country in one sentence and then immediately call people that disagree with your views as stupid. You could cut the hypocrisy with a knife. I see some people on both sides of the fence misconstruing facts and following talking heads. For every ReclinerPilot there is a Uh-Huh. For every potsy, there is a Flashover. Here and in the real world.

 

Why do you guys lump every single conservative into the same little box? That my friend is what a person incapable of independent thought does.

[Uh-huh 0]

As an aside from speakig about Rush I wanted to make an oberservation.

 

I have noticed this sentiment (see quotes above) quite a bit on this board from people that swing from the left. Much more than in the real world, even though I see it there as well.

 

Sorry guys, but you only come across as typical stuck-up condescending liberal rhetoric spewing whine asses. Not sure how else to call it when every reply has things like in the quotes above.

 

You talk about how a person like Rush divides the country in one sentence and then immediately call people that disagree with your views as stupid.

 

You could cut the hypocrisy with a knife.

 

I see some people on both sides of the fence misconstruing facts and following talking heads.

 

For every ReclinerPilot there is a Uh-Huh. For every potsy, there is a Flashover. Here and in the real world.

 

Why do you guys lump every single conservative into the same little box? That my friend is what a person incapable of independent thought does.

This has to the be the POTW. It's pretty funny; you've just committed every sin you've attributed to the folks who -- like myself -- don't buy into the radical right-wing view of the world.

 

Nice work.

 

BTW, don't rile up the Lemming by comparing him to me. He will turn on you in a minute, despite you and him being on the same side.

[wiffleball 4,799]

As an aside from speakig about Rush I wanted to make an oberservation. I have noticed this sentiment (see quotes above) quite a bit on this board from people that swing from the left. Much more than in the real world, even though I see it there as well. Sorry guys, but you only come across as typical stuck-up condescending liberal rhetoric spewing whine asses. Not sure how else to call it when every reply has things like in the quotes above. You talk about how a person like Rush divides the country in one sentence and then immediately call people that disagree with your views as stupid. You could cut the hypocrisy with a knife. I see some people on both sides of the fence misconstruing facts and following talking heads. For every ReclinerPilot there is a Uh-Huh. For every potsy, there is a Flashover. Here and in the real world.

 

Why do you guys lump every single conservative into the same little box? That my friend is what a person incapable of independent thought does.

 

Take a look at the tax thread where guys like you and many others didn't know the basics of their own tax system.

 

You know from my OP in this thread that I respect the hell out of the intelligent conservatives so your last question doesn't make sense. There's a lot of stupid lefties too. But to listen to Rush religously and take anything he says seriously, yes, you'd have to be an idiot.

[swamp dog 0]

As an aside from speakig about Rush I wanted to make an oberservation. I have noticed this sentiment (see quotes above) quite a bit on this board from people that swing from the left. Much more than in the real world, even though I see it there as well. Sorry guys, but you only come across as typical stuck-up condescending liberal rhetoric spewing whine asses. Not sure how else to call it when every reply has things like in the quotes above. You talk about how a person like Rush divides the country in one sentence and then immediately call people that disagree with your views as stupid. You could cut the hypocrisy with a knife. I see some people on both sides of the fence misconstruing facts and following talking heads. For every ReclinerPilot there is a Uh-Huh. For every potsy, there is a Flashover. Here and in the real world.

 

Why do you guys lump every single conservative into the same little box? That my friend is what a person incapable of independent thought does.

 

the proof is in the pudding. if you don't want to be labeled a simpleton then go beyond rush's talking points. and don't spout the lazy line of reagan being a tax-cut anti-government president. history--for those who care to proactively study it and not get it from rush--clearly shows otherwise.

[paulinstl 296]

When the most vocal conservatives on this board either use 'Rushisms" or direct quotes from him in every one of their posts, what can we assume? That they are spouting off others' thoughts, thus making them brain dead followers. See the point?

[KSB2424 3,174]

You know from my OP in this thread that I respect the hell out of the intelligent conservatives so your last question doesn't make sense. There's a lot of stupid lefties too. But to listen to Rush religously and take anything he says seriously, yes, you'd have to be an idiot.

My sentiment was an observation to the overall tone from most ( i.e. swamp dog, Uh-Huh, Flashover, ect.), not all. For instance, there are a few like the two Franks and Voltaire that actually debate a topic without resorting to the "your a stoopid lemming moufbreather dumbfock yada yada line". I'm sure you prolly don't see it, or skim over it because of you usually take a pro-Obama stance.

 

Also in regards to the "proof is in the pudding" comment and stuff like that. Just because you happen to agree with Rush Limbaugh on a particular topic/issue doesn't mean you are just taking what he says as gospel. Hell, people have said that about me and I don't even listen to the focker. It is way to convenient to say that instead of actually debating the topic at hand.

 

I can't tell you the number of mis-represented facts that some liberal handles have posted. My favorite was that "near unanimous economists in the US backed the stimulus." Misconstrued crap comes from both sides all the time. Talking points are used by both sides all the focking time.

 

I have found that if an intelligent point is made (and backed up by facts) that is anti-Obama those threads are :tumbleweeds:. The only response in those are "But Bush did it too!@#@" and crapass comments like that.

[KSB2424 3,174]

An interesting article in regards to how Democrats are the only ones depicting Rush as the "leader" of the GOP. The reason? They think it is in their best interest. Partisan politics. Nothing more nothing less. No wonder I was wondering why he was getting so much publicity lately. He is being blown way out of proportion by the White House and the media is running with it. The Democrats are feeding the monster, then complaining when he growls so they look good.

 

http://m.www.yahoo.com/_ylt=Av.mPt8VZm4RE0..._politico/19596

 

Top Democrats believe they have struck political gold by depicting Rush Limbaugh as the new face of the Republican Party, a full-scale effort first hatched by some of the most familiar names in politics and now being guided in part from inside the White House

 

Soon after, Americans United for Change, a liberal group, was airing Limbaugh’s statement in an ad aimed at pushing Senate Republicans to support the stimulus bill.

 

“It just cropped up out of how much play that comment was getting on the air,” said Brad Woodhouse, who runs the group and is about to take over as communications director at the Democratic National Committee. “When we did it and it generated so much press, it just started to snowball from there.”

 

But liberals quickly realized that trying to drive a wedge between congressional Republicans and Limbaugh was unlikely to work, and their better move was to paint the GOP as beholden to the talk show host.

 

This was driven home to them, according to one Democrat, when Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-Ga.) took a shot at Limbaugh in late January only to appear on his program the next day and plead having momentarily had “foot-in-mouth disease.”

By February, Carville and Begala were pounding on Limbaugh frequently in their appearances on CNN.

Neither Democrat would say so, but a third source said the two also began pushing the idea of targeting Limbaugh in their daily phone conversations with Emanuel.

By Sunday morning, Emanuel elevated the strategy by bringing up the conservative talker, unprompted, on CBS’s “Face the Nation” and calling him the “the voice and the intellectual force and energy behind the Republican Party.”

 

I was wondering why the White House and the CNN's of the world were making such a fuss about Rush. One of the reasons that I started this thread. I didn't see what the big deal was. Now I know. It's an agenda.

[Lackman 0]

the proof is in the pudding. if you don't want to be labeled a simpleton then go beyond rush's talking points. and don't spout the lazy line of reagan being a tax-cut anti-government president. history--for those who care to proactively study it and not get it from rush--clearly shows otherwise.

 

I have an assignment for you. 10 word essay. 10, as in count your fingers and toes. That many.

 

Which character on the Squidbillies do you most resemble and why?

[wiffleball 4,799]

An interesting article in regards to how Democrats are the only ones depicting Rush as the "leader" of the GOP. The reason? They think it is in their best interest. Partisan politics. Nothing more nothing less. No wonder I was wondering why he was getting so much publicity lately. He is being blown way out of proportion by the White House and the media is running with it. The Democrats are feeding the monster, then complaining when he growls so they look good.

 

http://m.www.yahoo.com/_ylt=Av.mPt8VZm4RE0..._politico/19596

I was wondering why the White House and the CNN's of the world were making such a fuss about Rush. One of the reasons that I started this thread. I didn't see what the big deal was. Now I know. It's an agenda.

 

No, you started the thread because you thought Rush was some genius. When that went to shiit, you changed your tune to "why the big deal about him, he's just an entertainer?"

 

I already posted this, it pretty well focks up the enlarged text you wrote:

 

WASHINGTON -- Two days after calling Rush Limbaugh a mere "entertainer" with an "incendiary" talk show, Republican National Committee chairman Michael Steele apologized and acknowledged the radio commentator as a "national conservative leader."

 

"To the extent that my remarks helped the Democrats in Washington to take the focus, even for one minute, off of their irresponsible expansion of government, I truly apologize," Steele said late Monday.

 

Steele's statement capped a remarkable weekend of awkward sparring between Republican officials and Limbaugh, who has repeatedly voiced his desire that President Barack Obama's economic policies fail.

 

The back and forth reached a fever pitch Monday afternoon when Limbaugh roared back in response to a Steele interview with CNN's D.L. Hughley Saturday night. In that interview, Steele rejected assertions that Limbaugh was the "de facto" leader of the GOP. "Rush Limbaugh, his whole thing is entertainment," Steele said then. "Yes, it's incendiary. Yes, it's ugly."

 

Limbaugh used his Monday talk show to unleash on Steele.

 

"Why are you running the Republican Party?" Limbaugh asked on his radio show. "Why do you claim you lead the Republican Party when you seem obsessed with seeing to it that President Obama succeeds? ... I would be embarrassed to say that I'm in charge of the Republican Party in the sad-sack state that it's in. If I were chairman of the Republican Party, given the state that it's in, I would quit."

 

The infighting between a top party official and a conservative opinion leader with an audience of more than 20 million developed into a distracting episode for a party struggling to compete with a popular president and find its voice as the opposition party.

 

"I respect Rush Limbaugh, he is a national conservative leader, and in no way do I want to diminish his voice," Steele said in a statement late Monday. "I'm sure that he and I will agree most of the time, but will probably disagree some as well, which is fine.

 

Chairman Steele's reversal this evening and his apology to Limbaugh proves the unfortunate point that Limbaugh is the leading force behind the Republican Party, its politics and its obstruction of President Obama's agenda in Washington," Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine, the chairman of the Democratic National Committee, said Monday evening

 

 

So, no it's not just the Democrats saying Rush is a GOP Leader - it's THE LEADER OF THE GOP saying it too!!

 

When you've got the leader of the GOP coming back with his tail between his legs for calling Rush "just an entertainer", then Rush brow beating him into an apology and admitting that he a national GOP LEADER, your party's officially focked up.

[wiffleball 4,799]

I can't tell you the number of mis-represented facts that some liberal handles have posted. My favorite was that "near unanimous economists in the US backed the stimulus."

 

Link? You can make up stuff that you say is made up.

[KSB2424 3,174]

Link? You can make up stuff that you say is made up.

Link? I'm not gonna go back through the threads. It was that Greedo character. He was quickly corrected. Strangly enough you must have missed that thread. I wonder why?

 

Are you saying that all liberals on this board never misconstrue facts nor throw out talking points?

 

ETA: Not even sure why I did this. But here is your link: http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...p;hl=economists No need for an apology.

[KSB2424 3,174]

No, you started the thread because you thought Rush was some genius. When that went to shiit, you changed your tune to "why the big deal about him, he's just an entertainer?"

 

I already posted this, it pretty well focks up the enlarged text you wrote:

So, no it's not just the Democrats saying Rush is a GOP Leader - it's THE LEADER OF THE GOP saying it too!!

 

When you've got the leader of the GOP coming back with his tail between his legs for calling Rush "just an entertainer", then Rush brow beating him into an apology and admitting that he a national GOP LEADER, your party's officially focked up.

When did I say Rush was genius? Why are you making stuff up?

 

Steele was responding to the media barrage and should not of apologized at all. That's on him, his mistake.

 

Thanks for totally ignoring the whole article though. I love how you only pick and choose a singular item and ignore the meat and potatoes of a topic/article

 

ETA: The reason I started this thread was because I sincerely did not understand why the media was making such a big deal about Rush. Why the focking POTUS and Emanuel were even commenting on him in the first place. And why he is percieved as a wacko.

 

That last article put it all together for me and answered my question. Rush is being put out front and center by the Liberals, media and the White House itself on purpose as part of a thought out agenda. An agenda that evidentially is working as shown by the media barrage on the subject and subsequent Steele backtrack.

[Brad GLuckman 519]

I don't know how many talk shows I have seen asking..."Why does Obama keep talking about Rush?"

 

Reading from Politico

 

Top Democrats believe they have struck political gold by depicting Rush Limbaugh as the new face of the Republican Party, a full-scale effort first hatched by some of the most familiar names in politics and now being guided in part from inside the White House.

The strategy took shape after Democratic strategists Stanley Greenberg and James Carville included Limbaugh’s name in an October poll and learned their longtime tormentor was deeply unpopular with many Americans, especially younger voters. Then the conservative talk-radio host emerged as an unapologetic critic of Barack Obama shortly before his inauguration, when even many Republicans were showering him with praise.

Soon it clicked: Democrats realized they could roll out a new GOP bogeyman for the post-Bush era by turning to an old one in Limbaugh, a polarizing figure since he rose to prominence in the 1990s.

 

This is from Politico, which leans right, but it makes sense really. The Dems got to power because everyone hated Bush. Their slogan for 2008 was pretty much "Hey, at least we're not Bush"...well that will only last for so long. Eventually, people will want results.

 

So, they have a poll...see people don't like Rush either (just look at this board ) ... pretty easy to figure out, paint Rush as the figurehead of the Repub party. Substitute Rush for Bush....ie: "Hey, at least we're not Rush"...and BAM... 4 more years!

[Voltaire 5,538]

Frankly, I think it's hillarious watching the GOP being painted with sh*t on this. They have no idea how to get out of Limbaugh's shadow because their entire base admires the hell out of Rush and everybody else hates him.

 

I love seeing the GOP suffer for what they've done. I hope the Dems milk this for all it's worth.

[swamp dog 0]

That's what the Democrats are doing and it's not with little thought. There's amethod to their madness. Since 10% of the country loves Rush, 20% are indifferent and 70% hate his guts (don't quote me, I'm making these numbers up to explain the point) the Dems want to tie all the GOP to him just like they tied McCain into The Bushtard. And the GOP goes along with it, the snivling chickesh*t black guy that runs the RNC went begging Rush for forgivness just a couple of days ago. So the image is complete.

 

Frankly, I think it's hillarious watching the GOP being painted with this sh*t and they have no idea how to get out of Limbaugh's shadow since their entire base admires the hell out of Rush.

 

not to mention rush eats it up and plays right into the dems hands by yelling even more.

 

like shooting retarded fish in a barrel.

[Brad GLuckman 519]

not to mention rush eats it up and plays right into the dems hands by yelling even more.

 

like shooting retarded fish in a barrel.

 

Rush is all about Rush. Before country, before party....Rush is all about Rush.

Rahm is doing a good job of substituting Rush for Bush, and making Rush relevant at the same time.

He's put the Repubs in an awkward position...Rush has millions of followers, so they can't dismiss him.

However most of the country has a negative view of the guy....so what do they do?

 

Well played by the Obama admin I guess. Although I thought he was "above" this

[surferskin 31]

What's funny is that Dems are going to be running against Rush but it's not going to matter if this economy doesn't turn around soon.

 

Obama lied and the economy died.

[Frank M 181]

Does anyone remember when he was on the Letterman show and got booed mercilessly? I can't get on youtube at work, but I bet it's on there.

[swamp dog 0]

Rush is all about Rush. Before country, before party....Rush is all about Rush.

Rahm is doing a good job of substituting Rush for Bush, and making Rush relevant at the same time.

He's put the Repubs in an awkward position...Rush has millions of followers, so they can't dismiss him.

However most of the country has a negative view of the guy....so what do they do?

 

Well played by the Obama admin I guess. Although I thought he was "above" this

 

above what? you're either the shark or the bait. no in between. this is pure political brilliancy. once again obama schools the helpless gops.

[KSB2424 3,174]

this is pure political brilliancy. once again obama schools the helpless gops.

Can't argue with you there. This "we are gonna put Rush on a pedastal so we can knock him down" agenda by the Liberals is smart and seems to be working.

 

The only problem I have with it is this: Why are they acting like they are still campaigning? And I thought Obama was above stuff like that? Change my ass. Doesn't Oabama, Emanuel, and other democratic leaders have better things to put their time, effort, and focus on than an agenda to go against a talk radio guy and put him on the GOP pedastal for their own gain? You know, things like not making all these dumb over-spending decisions. Politics as usual coming from a guy that ran his whole campaign on changing all that.

[swamp dog 0]

Can't argue with you there. This "we are gonna put Rush on a pedastal so we can knock him down" agenda by the Liberals is smart and seems to be working.

 

The only problem I have with it is this: Why are they acting like they are still campaigning? And I thought Obama was above stuff like that? Change my ass. Doesn't Oabama, Emanuel, and other democratic leaders have better things to put their time, effort, and focus on than an agenda to go against a talk radio guy and put him on the GOP pedastal for their own gain? You know, things like not making all these dumb over-spending decisions. Politics as usual coming from a guy that ran his whole campaign on changing all that.

 

you're really grasping at straws. really. the last president who didn't know how to play the game was carter. how'd that turn out? it was eaten alive for being "good" and "above it all."

 

there can be no change without obama bearing his teeth and being a political shark. what part of that don't you get?

[surferskin 31]

Again, in the end, why would this work? The Dems are going to sink or swim based on their economic policy. This is cute and all but this is going have ZERO effect on 2010 & 12.

[KSB2424 3,174]

you're really grasping at straws. really. the last president who didn't know how to play the game was carter. how'd that turn out? it was eaten alive for being "good" and "above it all."

 

there can be no change without obama bearing his teeth and being a political shark. what part of that don't you get?

Oh I get it. I understand completey now. I couldn't for the life of me understand why Rush Limbaugh was on the news every night and the White House was bringing him up all the time. Now I do.

 

I'm not even really argueing with you, I think it is a masterful stragegy. Kinda bush league, but things like this is what we have come to expect in politics from both sides.

 

While I disagree with Obama on alot of things (fiscal policy), I always kinda respected the way he campaigned and tried to keep it civil. Like when he said families were off limits ect. I guess being so early after the last election, and considering how much of a higher standard Obama likes to portray, it leaves me with a reaction to find out this was actually a contrived and thought out agenda.

 

[Frank M 181]

Again, in the end, why would this work? The Dems are going to sink or swim based on their economic policy. This is cute and all but this is going have ZERO effect on 2010 & 12.

 

It keeps the Republicans divided, which may in fact have an effect on the upcoming elections, as it has been shown in the past that Republicans have had their biggest successes by staying on point and being unified. Casting a controversial talk show host as the leader of the party further radicalizes the message and disrupts any attempt at unity.

[posty 2,867]

Rush is just someone to blame the bad economy on by saying that he wants Obama to fail, though it was taken out of context... As things continue to worsen, the Democrats will just point fingers and say something like "See what someone like Rush is doing when he speaks ill-will of the President"...

[surferskin 31]

It keeps the Republicans divided, which may in fact have an effect on the upcoming elections, as it has been shown in the past that Republicans have had their biggest successes by staying on point and being unified. Casting a controversial talk show host as the leader of the party further radicalizes the message and disrupts any attempt at unity.

Well, whatever...I don't think there's anything "masterful" about it. It just seems silly to think about 2010 and Dems running ads about a guy that holds no public office and the republicans can point to 4 years of the worst economy we've ever seen with the Democrats in complete control of congress all of those years.

[Voltaire 5,538]

I'm sitting here laughing. Only good can come from this strategy of painting Rush as the ideological leader and voice of the GOP. I'll enjoy watching how the GOP trys to deal with it.

[Frank M 181]

Well, whatever...I don't think there's anything "masterful" about it. It just seems silly to think about 2010 and Dems running ads about a guy that holds no public office and the republicans can point to 4 years of the worst economy we've ever seen with the Democrats in complete control of congress all of those years.

 

No, I agree, it's not anything close to masterful, but, hey, shiot like this works in politics. If a non-issue like Terry Schiavo can distract a nation for two weeks, you might as well throw anything out there and see if it sticks. Besides, most people are stupid and eat this crap up.

[surferskin 31]

No, I agree, it's not anything close to masterful, but, hey, shiot like this works in politics. If a non-issue like Terry Schiavo can distract a nation for two weeks, you might as well throw anything out there and see if it sticks. Besides, most people are stupid and eat this crap up.

acreed.

[KSB2424 3,174]

I'm sitting here laughing. Only good can come from this strategy of painting Rush as the ideological leader and voice of the GOP. I'll enjoy watching how the GOP trys to deal with it.

I sometimes get confused by you Voltaire. You have stated you have more conservative ideals at heart, but were thrown off by Bush/Cheney/Rumsfield ect. Well, you got your wish. Those guys are gone and the GOP is trying to (at least they are saying as much) get back to their roots. So I would assume you would be rooting for them to do that instead of having to counter act, politics as usual, stupid stuff like putting Rush Limbaugh on a pedestal agendas. That will only take away from getting the GOP back to where they were in the past (where you have said you would like them to return) It is counter-productive if that is truely how you feel. I would expect the quote above from alot of people but least of all from you.

 

I am starting to think you are really just a liberal who likes to play that (I once voted Repub) line to gain credibility and not labeled another partisan hack.

[Voltaire 5,538]

No, I agree, it's not anything close to masterful, but, hey, shiot like this works in politics. If a non-issue like Terry Schiavo can distract a nation for two weeks, you might as well throw anything out there and see if it sticks. Besides, most people are stupid and eat this crap up.

 

If you keep putting the word out that he's the ideological leader of the GOP, eventually all the people only half paying attention will start to believe it. And the vast majority ofAmericans hate Rush while the GOP core loves him. It's stealing a page from Karl Rove. It's beautiful.

[KSB2424 3,174]

It's stealing a page from Karl Rove. It's beautiful.

But don't you hate Rove for just that reason? I don't get it. Are you saying two wrongs make a right?