The DNC holding contest to for slogan to put on billboard near Rush Limbaugh's house...

[posty 2,873]

Gee, lets keep attacking a private citizen instead of working on the real problems of this country...

 

http://www.democrats.org/page/s/submitslogan?=2

[NorthernVike 2,115]

Looks like a good one to jihad

[Brad GLuckman 519]

A political party is attacking a private citizen for speaking out against them?

WTF?

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

How about...

 

Does the economy hurt? Try Vicodin!

[posty 2,873]

A political party is attacking a private citizen for speaking out against them?

WTF?

 

Exactly...

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

A political party is attacking a private citizen for speaking out against them?

WTF?

 

Well let's ignore the fact that the guy has made his living publicly attacking them on a daily basis for decades now. Turnabout, its a b!tch.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Well let's ignore the fact that the guy has made his living publicly attacking them on a daily basis for decades now. Turnabout, its a b!tch.

 

And shouldn't a political party be above such childish antics? Or at least be smart enough not to do it on their own website but through some whackjob group like moveon.org?

[KSB2424 3,175]

Well let's ignore the fact that the guy has made his living publicly attacking them on a daily basis for decades now. Turnabout, its a b!tch.

For once it would be refreshing to hear:

 

"Even though I think Rush Limbaugh is a complete moron, I respect his right to free speech, and think that my Democratic party should focus more on actual politicians in Washington and the very important issues that are facing this country instead of a talk show host."

 

Sadly, I doubt this will ever come to fruition. :sadbanana:

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

And shouldn't a political party be above such childish antics? Or at least be smart enough not to do it on their own website but through some whackjob group like moveon.org?

 

Ok, if you want to argue that it appears childish and that it is beneath them to mess with a radio talk show host, I'll agree with you there.

[Brad GLuckman 519]

Well let's ignore the fact that the guy has made his living publicly attacking them on a daily basis for decades now. Turnabout, its a b!tch.

 

If it weren't for private citizens on BOTH sides attacking BOTH sides then I would consider something seriously wrong. Somebody needs to hold these politicians accountable, all politicians.

 

You may disagree with what he has to say, but the fact he is able to say it is what makes this country great. When political parties start taking action against private citizens who are against them, then we are in some serious trouble.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

If it weren't for private citizens on BOTH sides attacking BOTH sides then I would consider something seriously wrong. Somebody needs to hold these politicians accountable, all politicians.

 

You may disagree with what he has to say, but the fact he is able to say it is what makes this country great. When political parties start taking action against private citizens who are against them, then we are in some serious trouble.

 

I have no problem with anyone criticising anyone they like. I also have no problem with the other side criticising right back. I don't think this is a particularly good idea, for reasons I posted above, but I don't have a problem with it.

[Me_2006 14]

Are there really not bigger issues right now? What next, he cant sit with them in the lunchroom? Honestly.

[Brad GLuckman 519]

I have no problem with anyone criticising anyone they like. I also have no problem with the other side criticising right back. I don't think this is a particularly good idea, for reasons I posted above, but I don't have a problem with it.

 

I have no problem with Olbermann criticising Bush or Rush criticising Obama.

 

What I do have a problem with is when a POLITICAL PARTY attacks back. If it were the Republican Party attacking Olbermann or the Democratic Party attacking Limbaugh...it doesn't matter. They shold not be attacking private citizens, soley because they disagree with them. This is ridiculous. Maybe I think it's a much bigger deal than it really is...but this crosses a serious line to me.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

I have no problem with Olbermann criticising Bush or Rush criticising Obama.

 

What I do have a problem with is when a POLITICAL PARTY attacks back. If it were the Republican Party attacking Olbermann or the Democratic Party attacking Limbaugh...it doesn't matter. They shold not be attacking private citizens, soley because they disagree with them. This is ridiculous. Maybe I think it's a much bigger deal than it really is...but this crosses a serious line to me.

 

I don't have a problem with it from a legal or ethical perspecitve.

 

I do think it is stupid, as it further legitimizes Limbaugh. If they just ignore him, he will eventually run his mouth to the point where he is largely irrelevant, like Ann Coulter.

[KSB2424 3,175]

I wonder what the winning slogan will be?

 

Hey Rush, Bush sucked! nana nana boo boo

 

Sticks and Stones can break our bones but Rush's words will never hurt us!!!

 

Mommy, Mommy! Rush is talking bad about us again. He needs a spanking

[surferskin 31]

I don't have a problem with it from a legal or ethical perspecitve.

 

I do think it is stupid, as it further legitimizes Limbaugh. If they just ignore him, he will eventually run his mouth to the point where he is largely irrelevant, like Ann Coulter.

Welcome to the fascist states of america.

 

You don't have a problem with the POTUS going after a private citizen that doesn't agree with him? Man, have things gotten this bad.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Welcome to the fascist states of america.

 

You don't have a problem with the POTUS going after a private citizen that doesn't agree with him? Man, have things gotten this bad.

 

What do you mean by "going after." Using the resources of the federal government to persecute Rush? If Obama did that, impeach him, I'll help.

 

But merely responding, and criticizing back? No problem.

[surferskin 31]

What do you mean by "going after." Using the resources of the federal government to persecute Rush? If Obama did that, impeach him, I'll help.

 

But merely responding, and criticizing back? No problem.

He's using his party to pay for a billboard to shout down the opposition (a private citizen...not the RNC). It's seriously a sad state of affairs. Unbelievable that you don't see what's wrong with this.

[posty 2,873]

What do you mean by "going after." Using the resources of the federal government to persecute Rush? If Obama did that, impeach him, I'll help.

 

But merely responding, and criticizing back? No problem.

 

Did Bush ever respond to people criticizing him? No... And if he did, the media would have been all over him...

 

This is one thing that Bush has that Obama doesn't, class and respect for the office... Just because someone disagrees with you, you don't call them out...

 

And yeah, I know, if he did he wouldn't have time for his vacations and wouldn't be able to do anything else...

[NorthernVike 2,115]

He's using his party to pay for a billboard to shout down the opposition (a private citizen...not the RNC). It's seriously a sad state of affairs. Unbelievable that you don't see what's wrong with this.

 

 

Sadly, love is blind

[Saint Elistan 106]

Name: Shouldbe Ashamed

Slogan: Free Speech is only for Democrats - Fairness Doctrine '09

 

Submitted.

[NorthernVike 2,115]

Name: Shouldbe Ashamed

Slogan: Free Speech is only for Democrats - Fairness Doctrine '09

 

Submitted.

[Frank M 181]

Welcome to the fascist states of america.

 

You don't have a problem with the POTUS going after a private citizen that doesn't agree with him? Man, have things gotten this bad.

 

It's as goofy as the federal government getting involved in the Tery Schiavo debacle, so take your righteous indignation somewhere else. Anything a politician can do to score points with his constituents, they'll do.

[surferskin 31]

It's as goofy as the federal government getting involved in the Tery Schiavo debacle, so take your righteous indignation somewhere else. Anything a politician can do to score points with his constituents, they'll do.

Uh, these two situations couldn't be more different. Not sure what your point is...

[Me_2006 14]

It's as goofy as the federal government getting involved in the Tery Schiavo debacle, so take your righteous indignation somewhere else. Anything a politician can do to score points with his constituents, they'll do.

Wait, what? How the fock is that even relevant? Seriously, please explain the link there.

[Frank M 181]

Wait, what? How the fock is that even relevant? Seriously, please explain the link there.

 

The whole point of attacking Rush is to pander to the base, just as George Bush weighing in on the Terry Schiavo case was pandering to the base.

 

I just think it's goofy to get all bent about this when it happens on the Republican side too.

[KSB2424 3,175]

It's as goofy as the federal government getting involved in the Tery Schiavo debacle, so take your righteous indignation somewhere else. Anything a politician can do to score points with his constituents, they'll do.

So it makes it right? That's what I don't get.

 

Just today we had a self described conservative poster dismiss Newt Gingrich because of his past of "Lack of Personal Ethics". Even though he agreed with him on most issues. http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...howtopic=340364

 

Why can you not condemn this and look at it for what it is, without bringing up Bush? Or trying to pull the "but you guys did it too" card?

 

Seriously. It would be refreshing.

[Frank M 181]

So it makes it right? That's what I don't get.

 

Just today we had a self described conservative poster dismiss Newt Gingrich because of his past of "Lack of Personal Ethics". Even though he agreed with him on most issues.

 

Why can you not condemn this and look at it for what it is, without bringing up Bush? Or trying to pull the "but you guys did it too" card?

 

Seriously. It would be refreshing.

 

 

No, I said I think it's goofy. I think there's enough problems in the Republican party already without the Democrats resorting to exploiting this kind of non-issue. Any kind of pandering to the base irritates me, becuase as a centrist, I'm the guy you should be trying to address.

 

ETA-If it sounded like I'm pulling the "Bush did it too" card, I'm not. I try to avoid that because that's what every yahoo here does. And I'm not trying to be a fence sitter like Sho Nuff. I'm a Democrat that thinks things like this are unnecessary for either side.

[surferskin 31]

Wouldn't "pandering" mean their base was actually asking for something like this? I haven't heard that people wanted a billboard about how bad Rush is for America...maybe I missed it.

[Frank M 181]

Wouldn't "pandering" mean their base was actually asking for something like this? I haven't heard that people wanted a billboard about how bad Rush is for America...maybe I missed it.

 

 

I don't think so. I think someone who thought they were clever said "Look, I think we can excite the mouth breathers by putting up a billboard denouncing Rush Limbaugh," and a bunch of other clever folks said "Yeah, let's do that!" so they did. And lo and behold, people on both sides got all hot and bothered by it.

[Sho Nuff 720]

No, I said I think it's goofy. I think there's enough problems in the Republican party already without the Democrats resorting to exploiting this kind of non-issue. Any kind of pandering to the base irritates me, becuase as a centrist, I'm the guy you should be trying to address.

 

ETA-If it sounded like I'm pulling the "Bush did it too" card, I'm not. I try to avoid that because that's what every yahoo here does. And I'm not trying to be a fence sitter like Sho Nuff. I'm a Democrat that thinks things like this are unnecessary for either side.

 

Not a fence sitter...just my beliefs don't fall in line with either party...and those of you all that defend nearly everything that comes out of one party or the other are basically sickening.

 

The Schiavo comparison was ridiculous.

[wiffleball 4,800]

Here's a little something y'all "private citizen" "radio host" whiners might have forgotten about - and by forgot I mean, pretend never happened.

 

When the HEAD OF THE RNC calls Rush Limblob "A National Republican Party Leader". When CNN and Fox carry this blowhard's speech to CPAC LIVE like he's the motherfocking President delivering the SOU, he's really not just some poor little feller getting picked on.

 

Like we said in the Rush thread, like it or not, Rush Limblob IS THE leading voice of the GOP right now. When he can cause the head of the RNC to step and fetch and apologize like a little biitch, the guy's hands-down the most powerful Rebublican voice on the planet. When McCain loses by 7 Million votes - and Limbaugh has 20 MILLION listeners - that he originally told not to vote for McCain, the dude's a force.

 

The only thing sadder then the DNC gonig after a "radio host" is the fact that this college flunk-out is THE leading voice of the Republican party right now. Instead of whining about the Dems, the GOP should be a crapload more worried that this guy OWNS their base. - And the guy who OWNS your base is saying REALLY inflammatory stupid shiit like "I hope the President fails to fix the economy." - In a country that really really WANTS the fix to WORK. - Bad politics right now. The RNC can't control their own voice. While he may be hugely popular with the base, he is universally reviled by most of the country. - You ain't gonna win an election with this albatross draped around your neck.

 

The RNC is screwed right now. They tried to laugh off / minimize their affiliation with Rush - and Rush kicked their ass. So the next day, the apoligized, kissed his ass, called him The Republican National Leader - And THAT bit them in the ass. - Damned if they do, damned if they don't with this guy.

[Uh-huh 0]

Gee, lets keep attacking a private citizen instead of working on the real problems of this country...

 

http://www.democrats.org/page/s/submitslogan?=2

Gee, let's keep kvetching about how the big bad Obama and the Democrats are up to instead of recognizing they are doing the same thing Rush L has been doing -- exercising the right to free speech.

 

I, for one, think this is a poor idea and only helps give Rush more publicity. However, it is possible this actually might be the Dems' goal. The more Rush is identified to the American public as the voice of Republican ideology, the more extremist and out of touch the Republicans appear to be.

[Brad GLuckman 519]

Here's a little something y'all "private citizen" "radio host" whiners might have forgotten about - and by forgot I mean, pretend never happened.

 

When the HEAD OF THE RNC calls Rush Limblob "A National Republican Party Leader". When CNN and Fox carry this blowhard's speech to CPAC LIVE like he's the motherfocking President delivering the SOU, he's really not just some poor little feller getting picked on.

 

Like we said in the Rush thread, like it or not, Rush Limblob IS THE leading voice of the GOP right now. When he can cause the head of the RNC to step and fetch and apologize like a little biitch, the guy's hands-down the most powerful Rebublican voice on the planet. When McCain loses by 7 Million votes - and Limbaugh has 20 MILLION listeners - that he originally told not to vote for McCain, the dude's a force.

 

The only thing sadder then the DNC gonig after a "radio host" is the fact that this college flunk-out is THE leading voice of the Republican party right now. Instead of whining about the Dems, the GOP should be a crapload more worried that this guy OWNS their base. - And the guy who OWNS your base is saying REALLY inflammatory stupid shiit like "I hope the President fails to fix the economy." - In a country that really really WANTS the fix to WORK. - Bad politics right now. The RNC can't control their own voice. While he may be hugely popular with the base, he is universally reviled by most of the country. - You ain't gonna win an election with this albatross draped around your neck.

 

The RNC is screwed right now. They tried to laugh off / minimize their affiliation with Rush - and Rush kicked their ass. So the next day, the apoligized, kissed his ass, called him The Republican National Leader - And THAT bit them in the ass. - Damned if they do, damned if they don't with this guy.

 

 

Just because he has a large audience, doesn't take away the fact that he is a private citizen. A Political Party is still attacking a Private Citizen simlply because he speaks out against them. It is good that Rush speaks out against the Dems, it is good Olbermann speaks out against the Repubs...it's what we need. We need people to keep these parties in check. But when the parties start attacking those who speak out against them, we begin on a dangerous road.

 

Yes we understand that the Republican Party has alot of work to do right now, and should ignore this. They need to find a true leader....but what I think more of an issue right now is the fact that the Democratic Party is the majority right now, and has an economy in a deep recession.......and they are spending their time attacking a talk show host because he disagrees with them

 

How about getting out of constant campaign mode, that would be nice

[KSB2424 3,175]

Like we said in the Rush thread, like it or not, Rush Limblob IS THE leading voice of the GOP right now.

No he isn't, you watch to much TV. For a person that constantly calls for people to think for themselves you are not here. Merely spewing rhetoric that has already been shown to be a contrived agenda put forth by Democrats.

 

The liberal agenda caused the media blitz saying Rush was the so called "leader" of the GOP. That caused Steele to backtrack. Everybody else said Steele should not have backtracked and denouced him for doing so. He was right the first time. You yourself even posted a thread about it. Do you not read your own posts?

 

GOP party officials are starting to regret picking Michael Steele to run their national committee. In the wake of Steele's embarrassing scuffle with Rush Limbaugh

 

http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...howtopic=340335

[surferskin 31]

Big surprise that Wiffle thinks this is perfectly acceptable.

 

It's too bad Bush didn't put a billboard next to Cindy Sheehan's house. "Don't listen to this nutty b1tch." I'm sure that would have been the right thing to do.

[Uh-huh 0]

Just because he has a large audience, doesn't take away the fact that he is a private citizen. A Political Party is still attacking a Private Citizen simlply because he speaks out against them. It is good that Rush speaks out against the Dems, it is good Olbermann speaks out against the Repubs...it's what we need. We need people to keep these parties in check. But when the parties start attacking those who speak out against them, we begin on a dangerous road.

 

Yes we understand that the Republican Party has alot of work to do right now, and should ignore this. They need to find a true leader....but what I think more of an issue right now is the fact that the Democratic Party is the majority right now, and has an economy in a deep recession.......and they are spending their time attacking a talk show host because he disagrees with them

The DNC has a goal. Its primary goal is to cement the Democratic Party into power, just like the purpose of the Republican Party is to regain power.

 

One way to do this is to attack the other major party and make it appear ridiculous.

 

By making Rush appear to be the de facto leader of the Republicans, the Dems are attempting to convince public opinion the Republicans are completely out of touch, radicalized, and brainwashed by a few extremist loudmouths. Hence the attack on Rush, which by the way is nothing more than tit for tat.

 

Whether this will backfire or not remains to be seen.

[Frank M 181]

Not a fence sitter...just my beliefs don't fall in line with either party...and those of you all that defend nearly everything that comes out of one party or the other are basically sickening.

 

The Schiavo comparison was ridiculous.

 

 

You, sir, are the biggest fence-sitter there is here. You take no stand and think that makes you better than everyone else. At least people here other than you have the balls to say what they believe.

 

Trust me, dude, you're not as smart as you believe.

[Uh-huh 0]

Big surprise that Wiffle thinks this is perfectly acceptable.

 

It's too bad Bush didn't put a billboard next to Cindy Sheehan's house. "Don't listen to this nutty b1tch." I'm sure that would have been the right thing to do.

Now this is a horrible analogy. Was Cindy Sheehan a major figure among Democrats the way Rush is among Republicans? Why would Bush legitimize her by doing this?

 

[wiffleball 4,800]

Big surprise that Wiffle thinks this is perfectly acceptable.

 

It's too bad Bush didn't put a billboard next to Cindy Sheehan's house. "Don't listen to this nutty b1tch." I'm sure that would have been the right thing to do.

 

Hey, if Howard Dean had gone on national television to say that Cindy Sheehan was The Leader of the Democratic Party, I would have laughed his & her ass off the board. If Cindy Sheehan had 20 Million people lining up daily to hear what she had to say, I'd call all of them idiots too. Trust me on that. If you can't figure out the difference between a lone loon with a sign standing in Crawford Texas and The Republican party's acknowledge "National Republican Leader", we'll, that's on you.

 

But it makes you look pretty stupid.