The DNC holding contest to for slogan to put on billboard near Rush Limbaugh's house...

[naomi 362]

Just because he has a large audience, doesn't take away the fact that he is a private citizen. A Political Party is still attacking a Private Citizen simlply because he speaks out against them. It is good that Rush speaks out against the Dems, it is good Olbermann speaks out against the Repubs...it's what we need. We need people to keep these parties in check. But when the parties start attacking those who speak out against them, we begin on a dangerous road.

 

Yeah there is something fundamentally off about it. One way to put it might be from the perspective of a democrat. Here's a party you largely identify with policy wise, and the corporate body of it represents itself by calling out a private citizen. If you're a democrat and wouldn't be behind that, seems like it would be ....so it's lame the DNC gives itself that liberty. Too gang/group thinkish of a thing to be doing.

[Frank M 181]

I know you are but what am I AND grammar police in ONE post? Oh fucking shit it's on now!

 

It had to be done. Don't make me turn my attention to you next.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

"I hope the President fails to fix the economy."

 

Please link us to where you got this quote from Rush. Since I'm not a listener I may have missed it.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Much more than you, that's for sure.

You're not making much of a case for your intelligence with this. Is this even English?

 

You think you are making a case for your own intelligence or how interesting you think you are with your rants about me?

Pretty much just coming off as a tool.

[Frank M 181]

You think you are making a case for your own intelligence or how interesting you think you are with your rants about me?

Pretty much just coming off as a tool.

 

 

Actually, I've learned that it's not worth my time anymore. You are as bad or worse than everyone you b1tch about.

[Voltaire 5,557]

I don't have a problem with it from a legal or ethical perspecitve.

 

I do think it is stupid, as it further legitimizes Limbaugh. If they just ignore him, he will eventually run his mouth to the point where he is largely irrelevant, like Ann Coulter.

 

I disagree. Rush Limbaugh is more hated than Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers. The Dems are well advised to keep Limbaugh's name in the news and prop him up front and center as the face/voice of the Republican Party and et the Republicans deal with the repercussions. As far as I'm concerned, the more we hear about him and from him the better.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Actually, I've learned that it's not worth my time anymore. You are as bad or worse than everyone you b1tch about.

 

Thanks for your opinion...I will be sure to file it with the rest of the things I don't give a tiny rat's ass about.

[swamp dog 0]

Gee, lets keep attacking a private citizen instead of working on the real problems of this country...

 

http://www.democrats.org/page/s/submitslogan?=2

 

he is not a private citizen by the definition of that term (as defined by the Supreme Court in libel and slander definitions). He is a celebrity, and thus open to all the potshots as paris or bradeglina. he is a super-rich celebrity, nationally known.

 

he circulates at political parties, rallies, and events where gop movers and shakers inhabit (and gets paid a ton to do so).

 

private citizen.

 

get a clue! lol...

 

my poor grandma and poor rush--two peas in the same pod: private citizens!

 

god, what an hilarious, and lame, premise.

 

keep the straw-grasping coming! i'll pop the corn.

[Voltaire 5,557]

Here's a little something y'all "private citizen" "radio host" whiners might have forgotten about - and by forgot I mean, pretend never happened.

 

When the HEAD OF THE RNC calls Rush Limblob "A National Republican Party Leader". When CNN and Fox carry this blowhard's speech to CPAC LIVE like he's the motherfocking President delivering the SOU, he's really not just some poor little feller getting picked on.

 

Like we said in the Rush thread, like it or not, Rush Limblob IS THE leading voice of the GOP right now. When he can cause the head of the RNC to step and fetch and apologize like a little biitch, the guy's hands-down the most powerful Rebublican voice on the planet. When McCain loses by 7 Million votes - and Limbaugh has 20 MILLION listeners - that he originally told not to vote for McCain, the dude's a force.

 

The only thing sadder then the DNC gonig after a "radio host" is the fact that this college flunk-out is THE leading voice of the Republican party right now. Instead of whining about the Dems, the GOP should be a crapload more worried that this guy OWNS their base. - And the guy who OWNS your base is saying REALLY inflammatory stupid shiit like "I hope the President fails to fix the economy." - In a country that really really WANTS the fix to WORK. - Bad politics right now. The RNC can't control their own voice. While he may be hugely popular with the base, he is universally reviled by most of the country. - You ain't gonna win an election with this albatross draped around your neck.

 

The RNC is screwed right now. They tried to laugh off / minimize their affiliation with Rush - and Rush kicked their ass. So the next day, the apoligized, kissed his ass, called him The Republican National Leader - And THAT bit them in the ass. - Damned if they do, damned if they don't with this guy.

 

Your posts are right on the money, I've read this whole thread and really came back to say that here. Well done, wiff.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

he is not a private citizen by the definition of that term (as defined by the Supreme Court in libel and slander definitions). He is a celebrity, and thus open to all the potshots as paris or bradeglina. he is a super-rich celebrity, nationally known.

 

he circulates at political parties, rallies, and events where gop movers and shakers inhabit (and gets paid a ton to do so).

 

private citizen.

 

get a clue! lol...

 

my poor grandma and poor rush--two peas in the same pod: private citizens!

 

god, what an hilarious, and lame, premise.

 

keep the straw-grasping coming! i'll pop the corn.

 

What a fukking moron you are. The guy is a focking radio talk show host, not an elected public official making policy decisions. Sure, he is a celebrity. So fukking what?

 

The fact The Messiah and the entire Demwit party is going after him exposes them as petty focking morons who are clueless as to what is actually important to the public. Ya know, the people who sent them to DC to work for us.

 

I say let the idiots bash Rush, it reminds the country what the Demwits are made of.

[naomi 362]

he is not a private citizen by the definition of that term (as defined by the Supreme Court in libel and slander definitions). He is a celebrity, and thus open to all the potshots as paris or bradeglina. he is a super-rich celebrity, nationally known.

 

he circulates at political parties, rallies, and events where gop movers and shakers inhabit (and gets paid a ton to do so).

 

private citizen.

 

get a clue! lol...

 

my poor grandma and poor rush--two peas in the same pod: private citizens!

 

god, what an hilarious, and lame, premise.

 

keep the straw-grasping coming! i'll pop the corn.

 

Think you have a point with the difference there, can't technically call him a private citizen. What I guess this could be compared to is the RNC putting a billboard up near Keith Olberman's house...maybe Rachel Maddow (not familiar with too many raving heads on the left). It just doesn't seem fitting that an organization ultimately there for success of policy along certain lines will go ad hominem. Both committees will stand behind people, but why support is thrust behind them is because of ideas the committees are supposed to be about. Deal with ideas. It's the entire committee focusing on an individual. How many democrats care to see resources used for that? Shouldn't the DNC represent party members. The scale of Rush's influence doesn't lessen that to me. It's not like people won't think like him if he's not there. It's petty, though I wouldn't be surprised if the RNC does anything equally retarded. It seems to be where society is at in general, it's about popularity of the figure, and then concluding what ideas are good to follow, instead of the other way around.

[swamp dog 0]

What a fukking moron you are. The guy is a focking radio talk show host, not an elected public official making policy decisions. Sure, he is a celebrity. So fukking what?

 

The fact The Messiah and the entire Demwit party is going after him exposes them as petty focking morons who are clueless as to what is actually important to the public. Ya know, the people who sent them to DC to work for us.

 

I say let the idiots bash Rush, it reminds the country what the Demwits are made of.

 

the dems are playing rush like a fiddle. it's brilliant policy. you're too stubborn and too much of a poor loser to acknowledge it.

[NorthernVike 2,115]

It had to be done. Don't make me turn my attention to you next.

 

 

I'm sure Me_200000000165165616651 is shaking in his clogs

[Recliner Pilot 61]

the dems are playing rush like a fiddle. it's brilliant policy. you're too stubborn and too much of a poor loser to acknowledge it.

 

Exactly who is impressed when the POTUS personally attacks a private citizen? I mean, other than Demwit lapdogs such as yourself.

[Sho Nuff 720]

the dems are playing rush like a fiddle. it's brilliant policy. you're too stubborn and too much of a poor loser to acknowledge it.

 

I think you actually have it backwards...Rush keeps playing the Dems like a fiddle...to the point they keep worrying so much about a radio personality.

 

Now, the Republicans are too stupid to just let Rush be Rush and got too close with him of course....but does not change how stupid it is for the left to be engaging the guy in this manner.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Exactly who is impressed when the POTUS personally attacks a private citizen? I mean, other than Demwit lapdogs such as yourself.

 

Where did the POTUS personally attack him?

The Dem party did...not POTUS...unless you have some other information you would like to share.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Where did the POTUS personally attack him?

The Dem party did...not POTUS...unless you have some other information you would like to share.

 

 

Doesn't Rush make his money off of selling ads for his program? Aren't those revenues based on the number of people who listen to his show?

 

Obama warned Republicans not to listen to Rush.

 

Much like everything else Obama has done since taking office, it has blown up in his face and the unintended consequences that resulted were completely opposite of what he thought would happen.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Doesn't Rush make his money off of selling ads for his program? Aren't those revenues based on the number of people who listen to his show?

 

Obama warned Republicans not to listen to Rush.

 

Much like everything else Obama has done since taking office, it has blown up in his face and the unintended consequences that resulted were completely opposite of what he thought would happen.

 

Wow...what a twist and spin.

But expected.

Obama is right...republicans shouldn't listen to the guy. Though, you have shown nothing where he personally attacked the guy or where anything with Rush has just blown up in "his" face.

 

But this thread is specifically about the DNC and this billboard...not any other things Obama has actually done.

Not shocking that you can never stick to a topic though. Just more twisting.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Wow...what a twist and spin.

But expected.

Obama is right...republicans shouldn't listen to the guy. Though, you have shown nothing where he personally attacked the guy or where anything with Rush has just blown up in "his" face.

 

Didn't blow up in his face? Obama attempted to make Rush irelavent in the Rep party and force people to not listen to him. Since Obama came out with this stance Rush has been all people in DC (and the media) are talking about. Fatboy is getting more publicity thanks to The Messiah than ever before.

 

The Messiah's attempt to push Fatboy to the side didn't work out to well, did it?

[gocolts 300]

I always thought there was something called the First Amendment that prevented the President from doing this very thing. Seems a little close to the gray area.

[Sho Nuff 720]

I always thought there was something called the First Amendment that prevented the President from doing this very thing. Seems a little close to the gray area.

 

The President is not doing it...his party is.

And isn't the DNC just exercising their first amendment rights?

Its dumb thing to do...but I don't see anything even close to a violation of anyone's first amendment rights.

[Voltaire 5,557]

The Messiah's attempt to push Fatboy to the side didn't work out to well, did it?

 

* <--- Here's the point _____________________________ Here's you --->

 

 

You totally miss it.

 

The Dems aren't pushing Limbaugh to the side but the exact opposite. They're pumping him up by putting him front and center. America hates Rush Limbaugh. His disapproval rating is higher than either Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright. Consequently, the Dems want to tie the whole Republican Party to him. The GOP has a leadership vacuum right now so the Dems chose the most loud, obnoxious, unpopular buffoon they can find to be their leader for them. Meanwhile, since the GOP is scared of Rush they won't cross him.

 

They want to tie the Limbaugh anchor around the GOP's neck just like they did The Bushtard anchor. And it's working. The GOP has tied itself in knots, they don't have a response to this tactic.

[KSB2424 3,175]

they don't have a response to this tactic.

You mean this Karl Rove'esque tatic that is typical political bullshit that you supposedly hate? You mean the kind of tactic that will get nothing done in Washington, only cause more nonsense bickering in order to somehow get a notch in the belt for the democrats politically? You mean the kind of childish tactic that has nothing to do with fixing the US, rather simply stirring up the media for political gain? You mean that kind of CHANGE AND HOPE?

 

Sweet!@#!

[Sho Nuff 720]

You mean this Karl Rove'esque tatic that is typical political bullshit that you supposedly hate? You mean the kind of tactic that will get nothing done in Washington, only cause more nonsense bickering in order to somehow get a notch in the belt for the democrats politically? You mean the kind of childish tactic that has nothing to do with fixing the US, rather simply stirring up the media for political gain? You mean that kind of CHANGE AND HOPE?

 

Sweet!@#!

 

Pretty much...but be prepared for the responses from some along the lines of turnabout is fair play.

 

So far...HOPE and CHANGE is a very hollow concept and far from reality. Though, you will be hard pressed to find many of the Obama supporters to admit that.

[Voltaire 5,557]

You mean this Karl Rove'esque tatic that is typical political bullshit that you supposedly hate? You mean the kind of tactic that will get nothing done in Washington, only cause more nonsense bickering in order to somehow get a notch in the belt for the democrats politically? You mean the kind of childish tactic that has nothing to do with fixing the US, rather simply stirring up the media for political gain? You mean that kind of CHANGE AND HOPE?

 

Sweet!@#!

 

After what they've done/failed to do for the last eight years, I'm enjoy watching the GOP implode. I'm finally enjoying politics again now, especially since I've been getting such great chuckles lately at the Republican Party's expense. It sure as hell is a lot better than watching in horror as they repeatedly fock America over and over and over and over again.

 

I didn't know the Dems had the Machivellian instinct in them; it's nice to see them fight back for once. Usually they're too wussy to take the low road and score cheap political points like the Republicans do. It's hillarious that they're driving a wedge between Rush and his party.

 

Also plently of things are getting done in Washington, just without any GOP input- but those guys are stoopid a$$holes anyways.

 

It's not all a bed of roses for me with the Dems. I oppose both the bailouts and the stimulus bill. This decision now to revisit Yucca Mountain on nuclear waste disposal digusts me. Eventually the Dems will overreach or the GOP figure things out and course corrects. So maybe things'll change. I don't consider myself a a Democrat but since I haven't voted (in the primaries) to send a Republican to Washington in fifteen years maybe it's the same thing. Besides, with the way I feel right now, I may still be voting anti-Bush in 2030.

[FeelingMN 273]

They want to tie the Limbaugh anchor around the GOP's neck just like they did The Bushtard anchor. And it's working. The GOP has tied itself in knots, they don't have a response to this tactic.

 

What you say about the lack of Republican leadership is right on. But I don't understand how that necessarily plays to the Dem's advantage. I agree with KSB in describing this tactic as Rove-esque. And it's a tactic that has Emanuel's fingerprints all over it. It comes across as petty, misguided, and a bit defensive given the lack of success early in this administration. Anyone with half a brain can see this as politics as usual. So I guess to your point Voltaire, most of America is pretty dumb and needs a Republican leader to explain just how trivial this tactic really is. Sure a national figure could magnify the idiocy of this stunt, but their absence doesn't absolve the win at all cost strategies of the left.

 

And to those people claiming this is an affront to free speech. It isn't. Rush will be on air tomorrow....even though none of you will be listening :yeahright:

Rush will say what he wants to say without fear.

In fact, what the Dems have done is increased his audience and attracted sponsors.

Rush actually wins (professionally speaking, not politically) in this situation.

His rights are far from being assaulted.

[FeelingMN 273]

After what they've done/failed to do for the last eight years, I'm enjoy watching the GOP implode. I'm finally enjoying politics again now, especially since I've been getting such great chuckles lately at the Republican Party's expense. It sure as hell is a lot better than watching in horror as they repeatedly fock America over and over and over and over again.

 

I didn't know the Dems had the Machivellian instinct in them; it's nice to see them fight back for once. Usually they're too wussy to take the low road and score cheap political points like the Republicans do. It's hillarious that they're driving a wedge between Rush and his party.

 

Also plently of things are getting done in Washington, just without any GOP input- but those guys are stoopid a$$holes anyways.

 

It's not all a bed of roses for me with the Dems. I oppose both the bailouts and the stimulus bill. This decision now to revisit Yucca Mountain on nuclear waste disposal digusts me. Eventually the Dems will overreach or the GOP figure things out and course corrects. So maybe things'll change. I don't consider myself a a Democrat but since I haven't voted (in the primaries) to send a Republican to Washington in fifteen years maybe it's the same thing. Besides, with the way I feel right now, I may still be voting anti-Bush in 2030.

 

This is all fine and well.....except now is not the time to score political points. If anything, the left has a surplus of political points.....check out the results of the past two elections.

 

Now is the time to get sh!t done. To get America believing in herself again.

 

These kinds of stunts, no matter their poltical effectiveness, do nothing but undermine the confidence the public has in their elected officials.

[Voltaire 5,557]

So I guess to your point Voltaire, most of America is pretty dumb and needs a Republican leader to explain just how trivial this tactic really is. Sure a national figure could magnify the idiocy of this stunt, but their absence doesn't absolve the win at all cost strategies of the left.

 

Most of America half pays attention. The Bushtard would mention 9/11 then in the next sentance he'd talk about invading Iraq and most people would make the connection that these two things are related. People wouldn't realize that Saddam hated bin Laden and hunted down and killed Al Qaeda operatives in Iraq and had nothing to do with 9/11. They were intentionally led to believe that Saddam was behind 9/11 and that's how the Republican Party got us into Iraq.

 

Rush Limbaugh is the ugly ass of the Republican Party. 20% of the people love him but 80% of the people hate him. The more in-your-face he is, the more people tune out/turn off to the GOP. But he's such a huge player in GOP national politics that nobody is willing to cross him. Those that do, well he takes offense easily, and they always come crawling back to apologize.

 

The Republicans made this bed of lowball irrational scream far right politics, now the Democrats force them to decide to confront it or to embrace it.

[Voltaire 5,557]

This is all fine and well.....except now is not the time to score political points. If anything, the left has a surplus of political points.....check out the results of the past two elections.

 

Now is the time to get sh!t done. To get America believing in herself again.

 

These kinds of stunts, no matter their poltical effectiveness, do nothing but undermine the confidence the public has in their elected officials.

 

It's a flase choice. They can walk and chew bubble gum at the same time. I don't see them being hindered, they've been very active. If anything, too active.

 

But if we have to choose between talk and action, I just saw this stimulus bill and I'm not so thrilled with the action. I'm far more anti-Republican than I am pro-Democrat. I have my differences with Obama so far: the bailout, stimulus, Yucca Mountain, and the California emmissions ruling, I'm fine with the rest of what Obama has done so far. Iraq withdrawl is too slow, but whatever.

 

I'm nervous about the healthcare bill but we'll worry about that one for later when there are more specifics. The main sticking point being keeping costs down and concern for taxpayer money. I worry it'll be too porous, too generous, not enough co-pay, not enough to hold down costs of malpratice setlments. On the plus side, I think the Dems are wiling to take on drug and insurance companies far better than the GOP ever were.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

They were intentionally led to believe that Saddam was behind 9/11 and that's how the Republican Party got us into Iraq.

 

"We know of no connection between Saddam Hussein and 9/11"....GWB

[DAVID RUFFIN 3]

"We know of no connection between Saddam Hussein and 9/11"....GWB

Then Rumsfeld said there aren't any good targets in Afghanistan. And there are lots of good targets in Iraq.