No kicker leagues

[sirwinzalot 1]

So I'm a commish and I'm contemplating doing away with the kicker position next season and add a flex position for either RB,WR,TE. Anybody else do this kind of league and is it more challenging, and more fun without the kickers?

[Joscellin 0]

So I'm a commish and I'm contemplating doing away with the kicker position next season and add a flex position for either RB,WR,TE. Anybody else do this kind of league and is it more challenging, and more fun without the kickers?

 

Obviously would make you fish a bit deeper for skill position players. I kinda like the kicker though.

[hankhawaii 0]

Our league removed the kicker position for the first time this season and I do not miss one bit. So happy not to have to have the likes of Nate Kaeding or Garret Hartley or whoever the F else on my roster. I want actual football players that I can make actual research-based assumptions on. I simply don't want to hear any more crap like indoor kicker versus outdoor, or so-and-so team is more prone to stalling in the red zone. F that crap. Good riddance.

[Bones40 0]

I could easily do away with both kickers and D/ST. I like IDP though (minus the DL position, we do D (meaning any position), LB, DB to add flexibility and it works nice). The point differential between the top 12 (or however many teams you have) kickers is so small and impossible to predict that it's rather pointless. I'm going to bring this to my league's attention and see what they think.

[gregzeetheking 0]

I already set up a vote for next year about removing both the kicker position and the defense, and add in a flex TE/WR. As of right now all is a go. Should be a fun season next year.

[Maulers1973 117]

I am in an auction style keeper league. We pay out to overall and h2h champions. We have kickers, punters and IDP. It's no different than anything else. You will make projections and some of them will be wrong. I love the format of our league as we incorporate all aspects of the game.

 

I suppose some would have FFL with just QB, RB & WR and that's it. That would be incredibly boring imo.

[GobbleDog 996]

Kickers are unquestionably the biggest luck position in FF.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Why not get rid of QBs also, they are hard to predict.

[el_duderino 0]

So I'm a commish and I'm contemplating doing away with the kicker position next season and add a flex position for either RB,WR,TE. Anybody else do this kind of league and is it more challenging, and more fun without the kickers?

 

Competitive 14 team league I play in did away with kicker and DST this year and its the best thing we've ever done.

 

Kickers are so random and doesn't add any skill to FF.

 

DST's are so random and can swing a game on a special teams play that can't be projected or planned for.

 

We start

 

QB

RB

RB

RB/WR

WR

WR

WR/TE

TE

 

and have 8 bench spots.

 

Its a great league and I think mostly because you can't just log in any day and get a viable guy off the wire. You have to watch the games, scout, see trends developing before there's too much evidence on the field and trade with other owners.

 

I don't think K's or DST's belong on the roster but that's just my .02

[Phurfur 70]

So I'm a commish and I'm contemplating doing away with the kicker position next season and add a flex position for either RB,WR,TE. Anybody else do this kind of league and is it more challenging, and more fun without the kickers?

 

I have been in a No Kickers League for about 5 years now and kickers are not missed at all.

[Captain Goomy Noomy Roo 50]

I personally think that it is STUPID to run a fantasy league without kickers.

 

Very often it is the kicker that makes the points difference.

 

It does take skill to be a kicker especially for those long FGs.

 

Long live the kicker. Would you have a real FB game without kickers? NO..NO You would not.

 

Why would you remove kickers from the fantasy game then?

 

Still I would not draft kickers until the last 2 rounds but I am for keeping the kickers.

[MDC 7,405]

My league is moving to an all-kickers format.

[sirwinzalot 1]

thanks for the feedback, I just hate going to free agency to get a kicker, and to look at the list and think, does it really matter, however when looking for other positions, there's more to contemplate. I don't like all the luck involved in fantasy football and it seems like removing the kicker makes it a little more about skill rather than luck. Especially when it comes to the draft knowing you could go three or two RB's, WR's, TE's in your lineup. Seems more challenging than choosing a kicker with my eyes closed. I bet if you took all the kickers on teams in my league and switched them around there would be no difference in the standings, only if there was a close game, and somebody lost to a dumb luck kicker. I got the majority of the league vote to go without the kicker, but not everyone, so that's makes it harder on me to change anything. Gotta keep everybody happy.

[hankhawaii 0]

I personally think that it is STUPID to run a fantasy league without kickers.

 

Very often it is the kicker that makes the points difference.

 

It does take skill to be a kicker especially for those long FGs.

 

Long live the kicker. Would you have a real FB game without kickers? NO..NO You would not.

 

Why would you remove kickers from the fantasy game then?

 

Still I would not draft kickers until the last 2 rounds but I am for keeping the kickers.

 

Wow. Maybe not everyone wants to play by the same rules that you play by? it's a free country and you're living in it.

[hankhawaii 0]

My league is moving to an all-kickers format.

 

Seriously, that would actually be a hilarious league to play in as a joke for a whole season.

[Maulers1973 117]

Anyone know who the best punter in the NFL is over the last 5 to 6 years? I do. It is quite predictable. Kicking and punting are part of football, so we make it part of our league. You don't win our league with the best RB's. You win the best T-E-A-M.

[De Novo 0]

I play in a league that doesn't use a kicker. The only thing I don't like is that it makes comparisons to other leagues really tough. 140 points in our league might be the same as 150 in another, but we have 1 fewer player.

[chroniciguana 13]

It's Monday night and you are down by a dozen points. Who would you rather have going? A kicker or a WR?

 

Three of the top 20 players (scoring) in our league are kickers. Four of the top 20 scorers are RBs. You have to go down the list to No. 25 to find a TE and Collie is the only WR to break into the top 20.

 

Better to get rid of TEs and WRs and keep the kickers. Just saying.

 

(As a former HS and D-III college kicker, I resent the notion that we weren't football players. We had uniforms, got to ride the team bus, went to all the parties, got the chicks and sometimes even picked up a few grass stains. We were football players, dammit!)

[uwmalcolm 74]

Got rid of kickers last year in one league that I'm commish. It's my favorite league by far.

[belichick's hoody 0]

I once had a 10 team league with:

 

QB

QB/RB/WR/TE

RB

RB

RB/WR

WR

WR

TE

D

 

It was awesome. I didn't even notice that the kicker was gone. Obviously the QB-flex changes the entire complexion of the league, but I thought that this was a very fun format.

[belichick's hoody 0]

Let's just put it this way, I have a 3-0 team and I love looking at my roster with Cutler, Gore, McFadden, McCoy, Roddy, Boldin, Witten and all of my other wonderful skill players. I'm not big on DST, but I do appreciate that mine is solid (Philly) and I would feel slightly better about my team if I had the Pitt DST. But it took me 3 weeks to remember that Bironas is my kicker, and I honestly have no idea if that's a good or bad thing- I just assume it to be neutral. If somebody offered me whoever the hell is the #1 fantasy kicker for Bironas straight up, I suppose I'd accept, but I really wouldn't feel any better about my team. If I had the #1 fantasy kicker, I wouldn't waste a bench slot keeping him during his bye week unless I really had nobody else who I cared to roster.

 

So in a nutshell, kicker is there, and I deal with it, but I really don't think or care about it like I do every other position. It doesn't enhance my fantasy experience in any way whatsoever, to me it's just something that adds variance from week to week. So I think it's nice to just do away with so I can focus on players who might actually make a difference over the long haul.

[SUXBNME 1,499]

I already set up a vote for next year about removing both the kicker position and the defense

 

Why not get rid of all positions and just draft a coach?

[Redstone 0]

I personally think that it is STUPID to run a fantasy league without kickers.

 

Very often it is the kicker that makes the points difference.

 

It does take skill to be a kicker especially for those long FGs.

 

Long live the kicker. Would you have a real FB game without kickers? NO..NO You would not.

 

Why would you remove kickers from the fantasy game then?

 

Still I would not draft kickers until the last 2 rounds but I am for keeping the kickers.

 

This last sentence makes your entire point complete rubbish. Why should something you draft in the last two rounds often be the point difference.

[Joscellin 0]

This last sentence makes your entire point complete rubbish. Why should something you draft in the last two rounds often be the point difference.

 

I suppose it comes down to the fact that it's fantasy football.

 

 

 

Kickers are rarely drafted early, and yet play an INTEGRAL part in any football team. As long as we're emulating the game of football, why should it be any different?

[Captain Goomy Noomy Roo 50]

This last sentence makes your entire point complete rubbish. Why should something you draft in the last two rounds often be the point difference.

 

 

You are complete rubbish... MORON!. Just because I draft a kicker last does not mean I don't want them on my league/team... it just means that other positions need to get stacked first. Why should any position be the point difference? Thats why they play the games. Thats why some days Leon Washington types run two D/ST touchdowns and thats why some days a stack of fieldgoals is what wins a game. Hell some days your QB just gets hammered for negative points. Its ALL football!

[Captain Goomy Noomy Roo 50]

I suppose it comes down to the fact that it's fantasy football.

 

 

 

Kickers are rarely drafted early, and yet play an INTEGRAL part in any football team. As long as we're emulating the game of football, why should it be any different?

 

 

AMEN Brother!

[WhiteWonder 2,734]

i wouldnt bash anyone for removing the kicker from their leagues but I wouldnt go out of my way to play in a league like that.

 

Kickers are a part of football, like it or not. They often decide the outcomes of the real life games. Why not integrate them into our fantasy games? I think its fun to be watching MNF and being down 2 points with your kicker still to go and having that last second field goal decide not only the real game, but your fantasy one as well.

 

and i think there can be legit thought put into which kicker to have on your team. I always go for a guy on a good but not great offense. Guys who I think will get 3 extra points and 2+ FG attempts with regularity. That said I never draft one until the final round or sometimes not at all but the process behind who i do eventually pick remains the same.

[Matt Mueller 146]

The one thing I hate about kickers is having negative points for a missed kick.

 

Anyone feel me on this?

[WhiteWonder 2,734]

The one thing I hate about kickers is having negative points for a missed kick.

 

Anyone feel me on this?

 

i never used to score missed kicks in my leagues but the past few years I have. I view it like a fumble or interception which i also score negatives for. A missed kick is a turnover. However, I only score -1 for kicks missed inside 40 yards.

 

Strangely, alot of league I have joined recently do not score negatives for turnovers. Im not a fan of that. Ball security should be part of player evaluation.

[murf74 461]

I would love to do away with the kicker. It is a total crapshoot from week to week. Unless your kicker playing MNF you don't realize it. Or if your opponent only has a kicker left. I hate it

[sirwinzalot 1]

I've been playin for so long, I myself would like the game to be more strategic, and challenging, doing away with the kicker does that.

[hankhawaii 0]

 

 

You are complete rubbish... MORON!. Just because I draft a kicker last does not mean I don't want them on my league/team... it just means that other positions need to get stacked first. Why should any position be the point difference? Thats why they play the games. Thats why some days Leon Washington types run two D/ST touchdowns and thats why some days a stack of fieldgoals is what wins a game. Hell some days your QB just gets hammered for negative points. Its ALL football!

 

You haven't answered my last response to you. The one about this being a free country and all. A country that says people have the freedom to do whatever they so please, as long as it's not against the law.

 

What the hell has got you so hot and bothered that you feel you have the right to tell people how they should be running their leagues?