Commissioner Decision: Dez Bryant for Mark Ingram

[Bro 0]

Hi, I'm looking for a little guidance please.

 

I had trade go through in one of the leagues where I'm the commissioner and I'm getting flak from a couple of league members that I should veto it. I know there was no collusion so it's just a mater of value.

 

Dez Bryant for Mark Ingram.

 

Thoughts?

[Reality 3,121]

LoL, haven't u heard? Ingram is going to score 32 TD's...

[Bearnut 0]

Hi, I'm looking for a little guidance please.

 

I had trade go through in one of the leagues where I'm the commissioner and I'm getting flak from a couple of league members that I should veto it. I know there was no collusion so it's just a mater of value.

 

Dez Bryant for Mark Ingram.

 

Thoughts?

 

 

I don't understand how you can veto such a trade. Maybe the person really wants Ingram and is in bad need of RBs. Ingram is healthy, Dez is not. Also, Romo is hurt so maybe Dez's owner is nervous in that regard.

 

I like Dez and I traded Tolbert to get him. I'm sure that is more of a fair trade than Ingram for him...it just doesn't seem like an obvious case of collusion to me. As commish you should only be vetoing the most obvious cases of collusion, not what is simply a bad trade.

 

I had a trade in my league (I'm commish) where someone traded Cam Newton for Flacco straight up. I find it to be a terrible trade on the part of person giving up Newton, but maybe they don't see it that way. And maybe they are right...maybe Newton will suck in a couple weeks.

[mobb_deep 920]

That trade is pretty uneven. I think I'd be forced to veto as well.

[plasma george 62]

Hi, I'm looking for a little guidance please.

 

I had trade go through in one of the leagues where I'm the commissioner and I'm getting flak from a couple of league members that I should veto it. I know there was no collusion so it's just a mater of value.

 

Dez Bryant for Mark Ingram.

 

Thoughts?

You said no collusion, so you can't Veto.

Value to who ? the 2 owners involved or the other owners in their division and upcoming schedule.

 

These 2 owners may have needs at WR or RB, and be stacked at either because of good drafting and can better themselves from the forunate situation their in.

 

Without knowing full rosters, it's hard to know their needs, but as a player and commissioner (like me) you can't veto, because I'm sure those owners are on your schedule and in your Division.....be careful.

[Adam 0]

I'm not sure which side this trade is supposed to be imbalanced towards.

[Cstriker 2]

Tell the owners to stfu. All trades go through unless its collusion.

[harry_hood 1]

don't brohibit your owners from managing their teams as they see fit. tell the other owners to shove it.

[Maroon Bells 18]

That's a reasonable trade. You can't veto that. I'm assuming people think Bryant has more value? But I wouldn't trade Ingram for Bryant.

[IMMensaMind 462]

No veto. I'm trying to trade Reggie Bush for Dez right now - and it's a similar case: owner who really needs RB/FLEX...

[mgs316 14]

What exactly has Dez Bryant done again?

 

What about Ingram?

 

WTF is the problem with the trade? Is it the 91 rushing yards or 71 receiving yards?

[SaintsInDome2006 441]

Commissioners and league members have NO BUSINESS vetoing trades for any reason but collusion. Period.

 

There is nothing wrong with this trade at all.

 

Do not veto it.

[madd futher mucker 36]

That trade is pretty uneven. I think I'd be forced to veto as well.

 

Mobb, no disrespect intended, but assuming that you really are commissioner in a league, why would anyone who likes to trade even want to play in it. How many trades actually go down in your league in an average season? i have never seen a trade in question on this bored that you would have approved. Just how did you arrive at your "all trades must be fair" philosophy?

 

Just curious...

 

 

 

To the OP: If you want to create even more turmoil in your league and effective kill any active trading, then veto this trade.

 

If you stand up to the bitchers and let them know that you are not going to be the judge of the propriety of trades that are remotely reasonable, they will respect and appreciate the standard for trading that you set, and trading in your league will be encouraged. It is that simple.

[Bones40 0]

Two pretty insignificant players who haven't done anything yet. They are flex/bye week fillers at this point. Who knows which one, if any, will break out and become an every week starter. Why would anyone have a problem with that trade?

 

Bottom line though, if there's no collusion you can't veto (and I can't possibly imagine how anyone could think there's collusion going on there). Let owners manage their own teams and tell the complaining owners to just worry about their own rosters.

[Pavlov 0]

A 13-point player who is hurt and whose QB may not last through one more hit for a 7-point RB on a pass-first team. Forget about uneven trades, how did anyone in your league even notice this trade occurred?

[cbfalcon 825]

If a trade is unbalanced, you have to veto. Otherwise it just becomes a race to see who can rip of the girl owner the quickest and the worst. And that's no fun for anybody.

[tecklc2112 7]

If a trade is unbalanced, you have to veto. Otherwise it just becomes a race to see who can rip of the girl owner the quickest and the worst. And that's no fun for anybody.

 

 

and tell me cbfalcon, just who is getting the better end of this deal anyway?..Dez has sucked & is banged up. Ingram hasn't done much yet either, but could be a monster at some point this season if things go right for him (same as Dez). Not your job to police a trade like this, EVER...

[Pavlov 0]

If a trade is unbalanced, you have to veto. Otherwise it just becomes a race to see who can rip of the girl owner the quickest and the worst. And that's no fun for anybody.

 

This is patently absurd.

[We Tigers 71]

Mobb, no disrespect intended, but assuming that you really are commissioner in a league, why would anyone who likes to trade even want to play in it. How many trades actually go down in your league in an average season? i have never seen a trade in question on this bored that you would have approved. Just how did you arrive at your "all trades must be fair" philosophy?

He and cbfalcon just go to any trade thread and say it has to be vetoed. He arrived at the philosophy because he knew it'd be annoying

 

The trade is obviously fine.

[tecklc2112 7]

He and cbfalcon just go to any trade thread and say it has to be vetoed. He arrived at the philosophy because he knew it'd be annoying

 

The trade is obviously fine.

 

Exactly

[TomServo 0]

Exactly

 

I'm not a "never veto" guy, but if you veto that trade, you're a complete and utter moron, and you should turn in your commish role immediately.

[mobb_deep 920]

If a trade is unbalanced, you have to veto. Otherwise it just becomes a race to see who can rip of the girl owner the quickest and the worst. And that's no fun for anybody.

 

This guy gets it.

 

To all you other guys. Have you ever stopped to think that maybe some people don't live by the same code of ethics as you? You just assume we're joking around because we don't think it's fun to take advantage of our friends. You can have fun playing in your uber serious league. I prefer a more balanced league.

 

Trade should be vetoed IMO.

[tecklc2112 7]

This guy gets it.

 

To all you other guys. Have you ever stopped to think that maybe some people don't live by the same code of ethics as you? You just assume we're joking around because we don't think it's fun to take advantage of our friends. You can have fun playing in your uber serious league. I prefer a more balanced league.

 

Trade should be vetoed IMO.

[mo' scores moe 0]

This guy gets it.

 

To all you other guys. Have you ever stopped to think that maybe some people don't live by the same code of ethics as you? You just assume we're joking around because we don't think it's fun to take advantage of our friends. You can have fun playing in your uber serious league. I prefer a more balanced league.

 

Trade should be vetoed IMO.

 

Fail: to the folks in this league grousing about this trade. A typical low impact FF trade which might have potential to be one-sided down the line (& who knows which side, & honestly, WGAF?) Epic fail: You using "uber". I believe that's insipid Sex & The City talk and has no place on this bored.

[southcarolina 166]

These threads deliver every single time.

[Kopy 568]

No Veto

[Pavlov 0]

Apparently "balanced" is now synonymous for "taking one's ability to assess talent out of the equation."

[tecklc2112 7]

Apparently "balanced" is now synonymous for "taking one's ability to assess talent out of the equation."

 

[cbfalcon 825]

If something isn't fair, it is unfair. Who wants to play in an unfair league where certain teams have unfair advantages? Not I.

[tecklc2112 7]

If something isn't fair, it is unfair. Who wants to play in an unfair league where certain teams have unfair advantages? Not I.

 

cbfalcon...Please tell us who has an unfair advantage due to this particular trade...

[harry_hood 1]

If something isn't fair, it is unfair. Who wants to play in an unfair league where certain teams have unfair advantages? Not I.

how is this trade, or any other, giving someone an unfair advantage? Is it an unfair disadvantage that I got the last pick in a snake draft? Is it an unfair advantage that my starters haven't gotten hurt yet? If it was obvious someone was trying to exploit someone who had absolutely no clue what fantasy football is or who the players are I can see an objection there. But its a trade between two managers who are trying to meet their teams needs, based on their value system. What is the point of trading players who are the same in every capacity (ie fair)?

 

It sounds like you would rather pick your managers teams for them, to make sure its 'fair'. God forbid someone make a decision for themselves.

[cbfalcon 825]

cbfalcon...Please tell us who has an unfair advantage due to this particular trade...

 

If you can't see who has the advantage, then can I play in your league please?

[Pavlov 0]

If something isn't fair, it is unfair. Who wants to play in an unfair league where certain teams have unfair advantages? Not I.

 

It is unfair to deny me whatever advantage I may obtain by doing more research than my opponents. It is unfair to deny me whatever advantage I may obtain by crunching scoring system-specific numbers to figure out position-by-position value over replacement. It allows a passive, disinterested owner to compete on the same level as an engaged, smart owner. Outside of fantasy football, I don't really have any affection for Ayn Rand, but in my leagues, I make an exception. I am in leagues to win money and trash talk my friends. I am not in leagues to make sure the guy who forgot to adjust his roster last week for byes gets a fair shake in a trade.

 

I am John ###### Galt.

[tecklc2112 7]

If you can't see who has the advantage, then can I play in your league please?

 

And obviously you can't see it either...because NEITHER team gets an advantage from this...

[tecklc2112 7]

It is unfair to deny me whatever advantage I may obtain by doing more research than my opponents. It is unfair to deny me whatever advantage I may obtain by crunching scoring system-specific numbers to figure out position-by-position value over replacement. It allows a passive, disinterested owner to compete on the same level as an engaged, smart owner. Outside of fantasy football, I don't really have any affection for Ayn Rand, but in my leagues, I make an exception. I am in leagues to win money and trash talk my friends. I am not in leagues to make sure the guy who forgot to adjust his roster last week for byes gets a fair shake in a trade.

 

I am John ###### Galt.

 

well said

[Stewburtx8 67]

These threads are the absolute worst thing about this site. They should be deleted as soon as they pop up.

 

PLEASE STOP feeding the animals. Cbfalcon and Mobb_Deep are both asshats who try to keep these threads going, but it works because everyone keeps arguing with them. Just stop responding. They don't even believe what they are saying.

[tecklc2112 7]

These threads are the absolute worst thing about this site. They should be deleted as soon as they pop up.

 

PLEASE STOP feeding the animals. Cbfalcon and Mobb_Deep are both asshats who try to keep these threads going, but it works because everyone keeps arguing with them. Just stop responding. They don't even believe what they are saying.

 

eh, don't even open the threads then. I find this playful banter rather amusing.

[cbfalcon 825]

These threads are the absolute worst thing about this site. They should be deleted as soon as they pop up.

 

PLEASE STOP feeding the animals. Cbfalcon and Mobb_Deep are both asshats who try to keep these threads going, but it works because everyone keeps arguing with them. Just stop responding. They don't even believe what they are saying.

 

I don't know much about Mobb except that he makes solid points, and that me and him have over 15,000 posts combined. You have about 1/7 of that.

 

So I think we probably know what we are talking about.

[tecklc2112 7]

I don't know much about Mobb except that he makes solid points, and that me and him have over 15,000 posts combined. You have about 1/7 of that.

 

So I think we probably know what we are talking about.

 

And having a ton of posts somehow makes you smart?

[southcarolina 166]

These threads are the absolute worst thing about this site. They should be deleted as soon as they pop up.

 

PLEASE STOP feeding the animals. Cbfalcon and Mobb_Deep are both asshats who try to keep these threads going, but it works because everyone keeps arguing with them. Just stop responding. They don't even believe what they are saying.

 

Right on cue. Smooth and professional as always Stewie.

 

These threads are hilarious in their predictability (or is it predictable in their hilarity?)

 

Anyway, its almost time for the $5 to $40 dollar analogy......