tenaciousb 0 Posted October 10, 2012 Nothing official to link to yet but a local writer just blogged this: Ben gets a TD pass ... today? ... READ MORE: The NFL has determined that Ben Roethlisberger's lateral to Rashard Mendenhall on Sunday that resulted in a 13-yard touchdown is now a TD pass, not a lateral. Looking at that replay, even at the time, it's the right call. The stats crew at Heinz Field immediately decided to call it a lateral, and believe me, that's easy to tell. They're very audible in the press box. The play happened, and someone barked out that the pass went "backward," and that was that. They had to move on to the next set of plays. I've heard from readers critical of this decision, but it's got to be understood that these folks can't put the game on pause and keep checking that one play to get it right. They score it as they see it, and the process of follow-ups happens just like this, where there's a review by the NFL's people. Football is NOT an easy game to score. Lots of moving parts, tackles, assists, pressures, even the yard lines aren't definitive. The only way to get everything precise is to study that video that pans the whole field and shows all 22 players. (Which actually fans can buy this year for the first time. It's called "22," not coincidentally.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tenaciousb 0 Posted October 10, 2012 If this is indeed official this will affect many games. Plus Mendy now gets a reception and take away the rushing yardage.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thornton Melon 544 Posted October 10, 2012 If this is indeed official this will affect many games. Plus Mendy now gets a reception and take away the rushing yardage.... Yeah, but he still gets the receiving yardage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelvarr 13 Posted October 10, 2012 Yeah, but he still gets the receiving yardage I fail to see how this does anything other than make scores better? Mendy still gets credit for yardage (most likely the same amount of points), still gets a TD (again, same), gets credit for a reception (can only be positive), and Ben gets more points as well (yardage, TD, possible completion). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 496 Posted October 10, 2012 I fail to see how this does anything other than make scores better? Mendy still gets credit for yardage (most likely the same amount of points), still gets a TD (again, same), gets credit for a reception (can only be positive), and Ben gets more points as well (yardage, TD, possible completion). Initial stats has Mendy at 81 yards rushing, 20 receiving. In a non-PPR, non-decimal league, he would end with 68 rushing yards (6 points) and 33 receiving yards (3 points), compared to the 10 yardage points he would have now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted October 10, 2012 I fail to see how this does anything other than make scores better? Mendy still gets credit for yardage (most likely the same amount of points), still gets a TD (again, same), gets credit for a reception (can only be positive), and Ben gets more points as well (yardage, TD, possible completion). Not necessarily. In one of my leauges rushing yards and receiving yards are added up separately. This results in one point differences in leagues sometimes. Also in my league it is not ppr. So 88 rushing yards and 13 receiving yards is 9 points. In a league that combines the two it would equal 101 yards and be 10 points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mahoney 9 Posted October 10, 2012 Wow...I had Ben and lost by 1 pt. I'm the commish too so lets hope the league mates do not think I'm doing anything sneaky. Emailing folks now... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 917 Posted October 10, 2012 Wow...I had Ben and lost by 1 pt. I'm the commish too so lets hope the league mates do not think I'm doing anything sneaky. Emailing folks now... Seems a bit premature to be emailing your league, when nothing official has been rules by ELIAS or the NFL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mahoney 9 Posted October 10, 2012 Seems a bit premature to be emailing your league, when nothing official has been rules by ELIAS or the NFL. True...however, CBSSportsline changed my score automatically thus giving me the W (and some 'splainin to do). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SweetnessWJP 0 Posted October 10, 2012 Seems a bit premature to be emailing your league, when nothing official has been rules by ELIAS or the NFL. http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/10/10/nfl-fantasy-football-roethlisberger-gets-stat-corrected/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 917 Posted October 10, 2012 http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/10/10/nfl-fantasy-football-roethlisberger-gets-stat-corrected/ Thanks. Hadn't seen this when I made the OP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tenaciousb 0 Posted October 10, 2012 http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/10/10/nfl-fantasy-football-roethlisberger-gets-stat-corrected/ thanks for the link. I guess it is still unofficial until announced by ELIAS? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaDanimal 2 Posted October 10, 2012 Has Yahoo updated yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WR Guru 31 Posted October 10, 2012 I knew it was a bad scoring decision when it happened. Both replay angles showed that it was not a backward pass based on where Roethlisberger released it and where Mendenhall caught it. I can't believe they couldn't correct that decision during the game. In hockey, they correct scoring decisions all the time while the game is still in progress. It's routine. Now this is going to create a lot of p!ssed off people who were involved in very close games where the losing team had Roethlisberger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 228 Posted October 11, 2012 I won anyway but barely facing Ben. Yikes. This is going to create some chaos along fantasy land. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Next Generation 10 Posted October 11, 2012 Sweet, we get 2x pts for RBs catching TDs! I went from ecstatic to a little peeved when they ruled it a lateral. Now, I'm happy to get the pts back! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 816 Posted October 11, 2012 Nothing official to link to yet but a local writer just blogged this: Ben gets a TD pass ... today? ... READ MORE: The NFL has determined... When has the NFL ever changed a stat after a game was over? Seems more like the NFL has determined the stat is wrong, but no official change will be made. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mahoney 9 Posted October 11, 2012 When has the NFL ever changed a stat after a game was over? Seems more like the NFL has determined the stat is wrong, but no official change will be made. Official http://www.nfl.com/player/benroethlisberger/2506109/gamelogs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 816 Posted October 11, 2012 Official http://www.nfl.com/player/benroethlisberger/2506109/gamelogs Holy crap. I always thought the NFL had a policy or tendency against doing that, but apparently not. So, what does CBSSportsline usually do when this happens, or is this the first time? edit to add... I just saw that it's been changed in my CBS league, but it didn't effect the win/loss anyway. Wonder if it changed win/loss's in leagues that it did effect.? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaDanimal 2 Posted October 11, 2012 Yeah NFL updated all stat corrections....just waitin' on Yahoo now.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mahoney 9 Posted October 11, 2012 Holy crap. I always thought the NFL had a policy or tendency against doing that, but apparently not. So, what does CBSSportsline usually do when this happens, or is this the first time? edit to add... I just saw that it's been changed in my CBS league, but it didn't effect the win/loss anyway. Wonder if it changed win/loss's in leagues that it did effect.? It affected my league, my game and I'm the commissioner. I originally lost by 1 pt and now won by 5 pt. Sportsline made the change automatically. The messy part was the effect on waiver order/priority. Luckily owners were cool. Took a lot of explaining until more "official" info and stats presented throughout the day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
majic28 0 Posted October 11, 2012 I went from a tie to a loss, i get 1 point every 10 yards rushing and receiving, 81 yards and 20 yards is 10, 68 yards and 33 yards is 9, this on espn league, hasn't been changed yet but they update 3am ish est, really sucks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 816 Posted October 11, 2012 Wonder if I should apologize for slapping wife after the announcer said "TD!!! And it's being ruled a run." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WR Guru 31 Posted October 11, 2012 When has the NFL ever changed a stat after a game was over? They make stat corrections every week. Usually it is pretty inconsequential stuff- a few yards here or there, credit for a tackle or two, etc. Very rarely though is there a change on a touchdown. Still can't believe the official scorer didn't make the correction during the game or at least at halftime. Was not a difficult call. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vegassandwich227 0 Posted October 11, 2012 RT Sports still hasn't adjusted our scores. come on people...what do i pay you for? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WR Guru 31 Posted October 11, 2012 myfantasyleague.com posted the correction this morning along with a banner message on top of the home page announcing the change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unloopme 4 Posted October 11, 2012 ESPN threw up a very lovely banner message too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites