Is Benghazi Obama's Waterloo?

[MDC 7,461]

You're obviously referring to the Obama campaign.

 

The one that's leading in Ohio and poised to win?

[drobeski 3,061]

The one that's leading in Ohio and poised to win?

Check that, what ?

http://www.13wmaz.com/news/topstories/article/201906/175/Ohio-Poll-Romney-Obama-Tied-Among-Likely-Voters

[MDC 7,461]

Check that, what ?

http://www.13wmaz.com/news/topstories/article/201906/175/Ohio-Poll-Romney-Obama-Tied-Among-Likely-Voters

 

Obummer up anywhere from 2-5 points in six different polls.

 

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/oh/ohio_romney_vs_obama-1860.html

 

Sorry drob. Looks like Obummer will still be prez. And you'll still be short and fat.

[drobeski 3,061]

Obummer up anywhere from 2-5 points in six different polls.

 

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/oh/ohio_romney_vs_obama-1860.html

 

Sorry drob. Looks like Obummer will still be prez. And you'll still be short and fat.

Unless he cheats he is done

[MDC 7,461]

Unless he cheats he is done

 

I see you've settled on your post erection excuse.

 

Aren't you going to cry about Diabold and Acorn too?

[drobeski 3,061]

I see you've settled on your post erection excuse.

 

Aren't you going to cry about Diabold and Acorn too?

are you gonna riot with the takers when he loses ?

[MDC 7,461]

are you gonna riot with the takers when he loses ?

 

If he wins I get massive free tax cuts and balanced budgets forever. He'll I might even vote for him.

[drobeski 3,061]

If he wins I get massive free tax cuts and balanced budgets forever. He'll I might even vote for him.

[tikigods 76]

If he wins I get massive free tax cuts and balanced budgets forever. He'll I might even vote for him.

 

How do you get a tax cut? You're in the 47% that supports Obummer and pays no taxes.

[MDC 7,461]

How do you get a tax cut? You're in the 47% that supports Obummer and pays no taxes.

 

That's news to me - I've paid federal income tax my entire life.

[drobeski 3,061]

That's news to me - I've paid federal income tax my entire life.

sure ya did, doogie

[MDC 7,461]

sure ya did, doogie

 

I don't do as well as a fat short plumber but I make a pretty good salary.

[drobeski 3,061]

I don't do as well as a fat short plumber but I make a pretty good salary.

so they hired you right out of your moms twat, at a good salary too boot?

[MDC 7,461]

so they hired you right out of your moms twat, at a good salary too boot?

 

Dear god you are focking stupid.

[tikigods 76]

I don't do as well as a fat short plumber but I make a pretty good salary.

 

Gutterboy is a plumber?

[drobeski 3,061]

Dear god you are focking stupid.

Im not the tard who claimed i paid federal income tax my entire life ya patata

[MDC 7,461]

Im not the tard who claimed i paid federal income tax my entire life ya patata

 

I think you finally lost a thread.

[tikigods 76]

Im not the tard who claimed i paid federal income tax my entire life ya patata

 

He was one of those abortions that got away.

[drobeski 3,061]

I think you finally lost a thread.

Why because you spewed nonsensical falsehoods ? ....

Dumb dumb dumb.

[drobeski 3,061]

That's news to me - I've paid federal income tax my entire life.

Doh!!!!

[Recliner Pilot 61]

We’ll handle this in bullet points:

 

•Obama incessantly spikes the “I got bin Laden” ball at the Democrat convention.

 

•A number two Al Qaeda operative gets nailed by a drone.

 

•Al Qaeda decides to teach Obama and America a lesson, and plans a terrorist attack to coincide with the 11th anniversary of the Islamic attack on America.

 

•Monday evening, 9/11/12, Ansar Al Sharia attacks our consulate in Benghazi. Some say they are trying to kill our Ambassador, Chris Stevens, others say they were trying to capture him so that they could then negotiate a trade for the Blind Sheik.

 

•The White House is notified of the attack within two hours. There are reports that the entire attack was being watched live in the White House situation room.

 

•Obama says that he ordered the Defense Department and the CIA to do everything possible to save the lives of our people in that consulate. We don’t find out about this alleged order until three weeks after the attack. Personally, I don’t believe the order was ever given.

 

•If the order was actually given Defense Secretary Leon Panetta ignored it when he ordered American troops to “stand down.” Americans were dying on the ground, but Panetta didn’t have enough information to send in the troops.

 

•Two Navy Seals apparently disobeyed orders and went to the rescue of the Americans in the consulate. They both died. While there they were “painting” a mortar position being used by Islamists to attack the consulate with a

laser, and calling for that position to be taken out. Our military didn’t act.

 

•Obama had outsourced the security for the consulate to a group called The 17th of February Martyr’s Brigade, an offshoot of Ansar Al Sharia, the very group that was attacking the consulate.

 

•There were drones circling over the attack as it was going on. We can’t learn whether or not these drones were armed.

 

•There were AC130U gunships available that could have been on the scene in under an hour. They were not used.

 

•The morning after the attack Obama speaks to the press and blames the attack on the video. He claims that he referred to the attack as a terrorist attack at that time. The transcript shows that he did not.

 

•As soon as Obama makes his statement to the media blaming the attack on the video he heads to the second floor of the White House to pack for his trip to Las Vegas for a fund raiser.

 

•For the next two weeks the Obama junta relentlessly pushes the idea that this attack was a spontaneous attack because of an amateur video about Islam. He continues with this line even while the interim president of Libya is telling the world that it was planned by an offshoot of Al Qaeda .. nothing spontaneous about it.

 

•Obama sends his UN Ambassador Susan Rice out to push this completely made-up “video” scenario, knowing it was false.

 

•Obama even goes before the General Assembly of the United Nations and shares his “it was the video” story with the world. At that time he absolutely knew it was a planned attack from Ansar Al Sharia.

 

•Three weeks after the attack we see the emails that made a lie out of virtually everything Obama had been saying about the attack

 

•In the meantime the dominant elements of the ObamaMedia are dutifully conveying the “it was the video” line so as not to harm the reelection chances of the president they promoted with no vetting in 2008.

 

http://www.boortz.com/weblogs/nealz-nuze/2012/oct/29/benghazi/

[drobeski 3,061]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg-e71IDAUw

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Ouch!

 

Hard to believe people still support this disaster of a President.

[KSB2424 3,148]

Forget the interwebs and fake back and forth on this forearm. In real life the people I've come across who were sort of on the fence in regards to this election really are sort of pissed about this whole Benghazi fiasco. Not what happened per se, as well, shit happens overseas. It's the whole 'cover up' looking part that pisses them off. The youtube video crap excuse that never did pass the smell test as it just didn't seem right for some obscure internet video that nobody knew about to be the blame for something like what happend. People can get past incompetence; but they get pretty pissed when they feel they were lied to.

[TheBlade 3]

Forget the interwebs and fake back and forth on this forearm. In real life the people I've come across who were sort of on the fence in regards to this election really are sort of pissed about this whole Benghazi fiasco. Not what happened per se, as well, shit happens overseas. It's the whole 'cover up' looking part that pisses them off. The youtube video crap excuse that never did pass the smell test as it just didn't seem right for some obscure internet video that nobody knew about to be the blame for something like what happend. People can get past incompetence; but they get pretty pissed when they feel they were lied to.

 

I think you're spot on here. The other thing that seems to really be eating at people is the information that's coming out that they basically made a decision to let those people die and not send emergency military help that could've been there in a very short time. I agree that people kind expect foreign incidents to happen every once in a while, but I don't think the administration really understands just how seriously the average blue collar worker/everyday Joe takes the military mindset of not leaving anybody on the battlefield. They could've helped and chose not to. I thinks that's going to burn them more than they ever realize.

 

I don't for a second think that Obama wasn't aware of every decision that was made, but if he wasn't and people were left to die, heads need to roll and they haven't. Clinton's attempt to jump on the grenade doesn't count. That was weak and stinks of her taking the fall to divert attention during the campaign.

 

I may be wrong, but I think this affects the election a lot more than many of the bored lefties here think.....

[Phurfur 70]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-QQI6lb_Hg

[Recliner Pilot 61]

I think you're spot on here. The other thing that seems to really be eating at people is the information that's coming out that they basically made a decision to let those people die and not send emergency military help that could've been there in a very short time. I agree that people kind expect foreign incidents to happen every once in a while, but I don't think the administration really understands just how seriously the average blue collar worker/everyday Joe takes the military mindset of not leaving anybody on the battlefield. They could've helped and chose not to. I thinks that's going to burn them more than they ever realize.

 

I don't for a second think that Obama wasn't aware of every decision that was made, but if he wasn't and people were left to die, heads need to roll and they haven't. Clinton's attempt to jump on the grenade doesn't count. That was weak and stinks of her taking the fall to divert attention during the campaign.

 

I may be wrong, but I think this affects the election a lot more than many of the bored lefties here think.....

Eggzactly.

 

If Nixon had come out as soon as Watergate broke and said it was nothing more than some overzealous idiot campaign workers and they should be prosecuted, he wouldn't have had to leave office.

 

The cover up is what pixxes people off, and this one was assinine. No way it would hold up.

 

And the new info about them watching them die on video without doing anything really pixxes people off.

[drobeski 3,061]

The real story is, Obama knew real time they asked for help. Help was ready and waiting, he said no.

It used to be about the cover up.....

[Phurfur 70]

I'm perdicting this issue doesn't have much traction.

 

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

The real story is, Obama knew real time they asked for help. Help was ready and waiting, he said no.

It used to be about the cover up.....

 

Ok, not partisan crap, not fishing...

 

link to this?

 

I simply cannot fathom that this is true. If it is, he should be drummed out of office in a carpet. Unfortunately, the challenger literally makes the bile rise up in my throat.

 

Seriously, this is the only place I have heard such accusations. Surely such a bombshell would have strayed accross my pulse/flipbook feeds...

[Phurfur 70]

Ok, not partisan crap, not fishing...

 

link to this?

 

I simply cannot fathom that this is true. If it is, he should be drummed out of office in a carpet. Unfortunately, the challenger literally makes the bile rise up in my throat.

 

Seriously, this is the only place I have heard such accusations. Surely such a bombshell would have strayed accross my pulse/flipbook feeds...

 

There was a live feed of the massacre to the WH, like the Osama bin Laden hit. It is talked about in post #182 if you care to listen.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Ok, not partisan crap, not fishing...

 

link to this?

 

I simply cannot fathom that this is true. If it is, he should be drummed out of office in a carpet. Unfortunately, the challenger literally makes the bile rise up in my throat.

 

Seriously, this is the only place I have heard such accusations. Surely such a bombshell would have strayed accross my pulse/flipbook feeds...

 

The SEALS that died asked the military for help 3 times and were turned down. They were told to "stand down", but disobeyed orders and ended up saving lives. They died in a mortar attack while they had a laser on the mortar sight. If their request for help was answered they would have been able to take out the mortar sight that ended up killing them.

 

There were drones overhead during the entire thing beaming live footage to the military, State Dept, and White House. The "Obama didn't know" story is as believable as the youtube video story.

 

Just a few links:

 

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/benghazi_rescue_nixed_JVZdwtGL95PGuHd4j0QPzH

 

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/us_watched_as_terror_raged_AypAEEA9OK23rPf7Z5BHWO

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

There was a live feed of the massacre to the WH, like the Osama bin Laden hit. It is talked about in post #182 if you care to listen.

 

Ok, other than some wacky looking late nite tv host I've never heard of, is there any substance to this? I'd have to think the media would be all over such an accusation, especially the Fox end of the spectrum. I'd have to figure Romney would be using such information to deliver the knockout blow.

 

The fact that I am seeing NOTHING about this except for posts from the most anti-Obama tin foil hat wearers on the internet has me skeptical at best.

 

But please, prove me wrong.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Ok, other than some wacky looking late nite tv host I've never heard of, is there any substance to this? I'd have to think the media would be all over such an accusation, especially the Fox end of the spectrum. I'd have to figure Romney would be using such information to deliver the knockout blow.

 

The fact that I am seeing NOTHING about this except for posts from the most anti-Obama tin foil hat wearers on the internet has me skeptical at best.

 

But please, prove me wrong.

 

Jennifer Griffin of Fox did an excellent story on all this over the weekend. I linked to something else because I figured you would dismiss it out of hand coming from Fox, but if you are really interested you should look at her report.

 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/26/cia-operators-were-denied-request-for-help-during-benghazi-attack-sources-say/

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Jennifer Griffin of Fox did an excellent story on all this over the weekend. I linked to something else because I figured you would dismiss it out of hand coming from Fox, but if you are really interested you should look at her report.

 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/26/cia-operators-were-denied-request-for-help-during-benghazi-attack-sources-say/

 

Ok, I'm seeing lots of theories, little evidence. Which is understandable under the circumstances of course.

 

And I certainly don't agree with "You don't send forces into harms way without knowing what is there." I'd have had gunships strafing anything that moved within three miles of the embassy. But that's just how I roll.

 

There definately needs to be Senate hearings into the matter, that much is for sure.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Ok, I'm seeing lots of theories, little evidence. Which is understandable under the circumstances of course.

 

And I certainly don't agree with "You don't send forces into harms way without knowing what is there." I'd have had gunships strafing anything that moved within three miles of the embassy. But that's just how I roll.

 

There definately needs to be Senate hearings into the matter, that much is for sure.

You dismissed my link in 4 minutes despite the video in the link being 5:37. Nice to see you gave it a whirl.

[Phurfur 70]

Ok, other than some wacky looking late nite tv host I've never heard of, is there any substance to this? I'd have to think the media would be all over such an accusation, especially the Fox end of the spectrum. I'd have to figure Romney would be using such information to deliver the knockout blow.

 

The fact that I am seeing NOTHING about this except for posts from the most anti-Obama tin foil hat wearers on the internet has me skeptical at best.

 

But please, prove me wrong.

 

You're not worth it. Believe what you want, I don't care.

 

MK-Ultra

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

You dismissed my link in 4 minutes despite the video in the link being 5:37. Nice to see you gave it a whirl.

 

I read the article.

 

The article makes hypothesis that the WH knew about the attack and chose not to act. They may be right. But you guys are stating matter of factly that Obama was watching live video eating pocorn, and I have yet to see any evidence whatsoever to that effect.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

I read the article.

 

The article makes hypothesis that the WH knew about the attack and chose not to act. They may be right. But you guys are stating matter of factly that Obama was watching live video eating pocorn, and I have yet to see any evidence whatsoever to that effect.

I would link to other statements by people who have served in the inner circle of White House's and the intelligence community who say there is absolutely no way Obama wasn't watching the real time feed from Libya. And if he wasn't he is derelict in his duties.

 

I would link to those, but there is no point.

 

You bought the youtube story for weeks, Rube. Time to wake up to reality.

[Phurfur 70]

I read the article.

 

The article makes hypothesis that the WH knew about the attack and chose not to act. They may be right. But you guys are stating matter of factly that Obama was watching live video eating pocorn, and I have yet to see any evidence whatsoever to that effect.

 

This went on for over 7 hours, he knew.

 

People died, Obama lied.